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Grinch of Los Santos
Just now, Punkd said:

you guys who believe in sth like las venturas, liberty city, north yankton (etc) shouldnt keep your hopes up high like this lol

"our latest take on Heists in an entirely new location."

99,99% this means some kind of (already existing) building on the gta 5 map will be made enterable, like they did for the casino heist (what took them how long? 6-7 years until this sh*t was finally accessable and open?!)

Yeah, i took a bit to think about it. We have done Heists at: 
Fleeca Bank
Bolingbroke penitentiary
Humain Labs
Drug Heist for Trevor
Pacific Standard Bank
Mt. Chilliad. 
The Diamond Casino

Now, What i can think is, maybe, we get something similar to Story Mode, The Jewel Store, Merry Weather Heist, Paleto Score, The Bureau Raid or actually, The Union Depository. 

Or perhaps we will get a couple new buildings and steal from them, maybe they would open a Art Museum in LS? We rob them like the Casino with Artwork?

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MrPhillips
1 hour ago, MaddenedGhost said:

Why would they add the entirety of LC just for a Heist? 

Maybe for future updates. Los Santos is getting "overcrowded" with jobs, heists, apartments  etc. Maybe they need a new "surface" to work on.

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Punkd
3 minutes ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

Yeah, i took a bit to think about it. We have done Heists at: 
Fleeca Bank
Bolingbroke penitentiary
Humain Labs
Drug Heist for Trevor
Pacific Standard Bank
Mt. Chilliad. 
The Diamond Casino

Now, What i can think is, maybe, we get something similar to Story Mode, The Jewel Store, Merry Weather Heist, Paleto Score, The Bureau Raid or actually, The Union Depository. 

Or perhaps we will get a couple new buildings and steal from them, maybe they would open a Art Museum in LS? We rob them like the Casino with Artwork?

what about the "mile high club" building/skyscraper .. its still not finished yet? 🤔

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Grinch of Los Santos
1 minute ago, Punkd said:

what about the "mile high club" building/skyscraper .. its still not finished yet? 🤔

They will never finish it, Maybe on the standalone version of Online, but not this gen. That leak or whatever is fake as well. 

it's have to be a location or building that already exists that be expanded. I figure something like the FIB or IAA Buildings or even Fort Zancudo, maybe stuff that already exists from Story Mode. 

 

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MaddenedGhost
11 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

Maybe for future updates. Los Santos is getting "overcrowded" with jobs, heists, apartments  etc. Maybe they need a new "surface" to work on.

They'd introduce it first and then put a heist in it, not the other way around.

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Gentle_Shelby
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, TheBearWhoFights said:

but it definitely is after the storyline. why would they go from the old casino to the diamond casino and then back to the old one because the offline storyline starts. that wouldn’t make any sense. It’s confirmed btw that gta online is after the storyline

I don't know where your sketchy ass source is from but I got it directly from Rockstar. So it is not confirmed the way you are proclaiming it is.

 

 
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When does GTA Online Take Place?
  • Some people who’ve been playing through Grand Theft Auto V’s Story Mode have been inquiring how the narrative of GTA Online correlates or crosses over. Grand Theft Auto Online is set a few months prior to the events of Grand Theft Auto V’s single player story.

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/51487/gta-online-details-game-day-access-info-and-more.html

 

Edit:

Of course as the time goes on so does multiplayer "time".

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ArthurFleck
11 minutes ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

Yeah, i took a bit to think about it. We have done Heists at: 
Fleeca Bank
Bolingbroke penitentiary
Humain Labs
Drug Heist for Trevor
Pacific Standard Bank
Mt. Chilliad. 
The Diamond Casino

Now, What i can think is, maybe, we get something similar to Story Mode, The Jewel Store, Merry Weather Heist, Paleto Score, The Bureau Raid or actually, The Union Depository. 

Or perhaps we will get a couple new buildings and steal from them, maybe they would open a Art Museum in LS? We rob them like the Casino with Artwork?

Nice list and prediction, well I am pretty much sure they will not add any new land, but it would be nice have some far cry 3 / Guarma rdr style off add on with exotic animals for online and SP but :kekw:

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Niccky
Just now, Gentle_Shelby said:

I don't know where your sketchy ass source is from but I got it directly from Rockstar. So it is not confirmed the way you are proclaiming it is.

 

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/51487/gta-online-details-game-day-access-info-and-more.html

Agent 14 mentioned something about the year being 2017. The online story started before the events of story mode and jumped to current times when the Gunrunning Dlc arrived. Since then they’re has been in game dialogue from online characters about the year being in current times.

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Gaffa

Does anyone watch Larry Lawton on YouTube? Makes me wonder whether they've taken some of his ideas and making a "super realistic" heist with multi-level planning (in terms of what it could be for a game).

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Piro
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, LodwigRedemption said:

I can agree with this. Everybody likes heists, yet I wish they gave us something new like they did when weaponized vehicles were first introduced, or with After Hours, Arena War and the casino. These were all new and cool ideas to add into the game, despite the fact that you may not like them all (especially Arena War)

Everybody likes heist until they remember those bullet sponges with auto aim from DDH. Not to mention the "invisible npc" glitch that kept appearing in one of the setups. So yeah, I stopped being a fan of heists a long time ago.
 

46 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

Maybe just cut content, but i found a few months ago that they added a gfx entry to the file that lists all the interior minimap files for example, and this interior was added to the file with the casino heist, but the file itself does not exist in the files.

Maybe it's a entry that sneaked itself in from development with the next 2 dlcs already being worked on.

Here if you guys want to try to crack it...

The int in the beginning just means it's a interior, the numbers itself are the hash would give us the filename of that interior when found

  Reveal hidden contents

int3547864363

 

Lol for a moment there I thought thats the number from the bottom of that "City Morgue x Rockstar" picture they posted before

 

45 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

mk2 is already nerfed enough. You can't call it for 5 minutes after it's destroyed and it only holds 20 rockets, plus mk2 can be easily put down with any vehicle with homing missiles. Nerfing mk2 would only mean tougher life for grinders, plus "griefers" can use other vehicles to do their stuff. The problem is not in the vehicles, the problem is in the people abusing it.

Well ain't that a hot take if I even seen one.

"its already nerfed enough" - No, its not.
"griefers can use other vehicles to do their stuff" - So why aren't they using other vehicles? Because mk2 its still the most OP
"the problem is in the people abusing it" - and why are they abusing it? Because its still the most OP. So it needs nefing otherwise people will keep abusing it. Its literally "press a button to always win"
"mk2 can be easily put down with any vehicle with homing missiles" - mk2 can take out 99.99% of vehicle in the game as long as the owner know how to use countermeasures properly. And you have to be joking with the "easily" part since mk2 can pop chaff, boost, fire couple auto-aim missiles (that are 10x more accurate than any other missile in the game) before you can even fire one regular missile that will most likely miss it...

They should nerf it by replacing those magical auto aim missiles with regular ones. Also the firing speed should be reduced to be just like the firing speed of buzzards. And every grinder will agree with that.

You think otherwise? Theres a special topic for that. Even couple of them as a matter of fact.
 

31 minutes ago, Gentle_Shelby said:

I don't know where your sketchy ass source is from but I got it directly from Rockstar. So it is not confirmed the way you are proclaiming it is.

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/51487/gta-online-details-game-day-access-info-and-more.html

Bruh your sketchy ass is quoting an article from 2013...  The timeline progressed forward after Smugglers Run. There are multiple instances in the game where they literally say its "2017"

online -> story mode -> everything online past smugglers run

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The Jungz

I think if LC is the new location they're talking about, it's going to appear in its entirety.

 

I could see them letting current gen go out with a bang and giving us a new map with very limited interaction as a tease for what next-gen is capable of.

 

Then you make LC the new LS on PS5 XSX by adding all the new and old content on both maps.

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capton_cutclass

I'm suspending all anticipation after that last update.

 

I was a completionist until that trash came out.

 

I'm playing other games more now.

 

I used to log in daily. Havent logged on in months.

 

They will promise you the moon to get you to come back. Im not buying it.

 

Its going to be a new building on the existing formula they set up so they can keep stealing peoples hard earned money.

 

If it is a new location outside the map it will be equally as trash. Nothing cool. It will be a big disappointment because they would charge for a well made map expansion...or save it for save it for Sonys exclusive deal to maximize profits.

 

Thats what I'm seeing...

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Gentle_Shelby
Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Piro said:

Bruh your sketchy ass is quoting an article from 2013...  The timeline progressed forward after Smugglers Run. There are multiple instances in the game where they literally say its "2017"

I literally said  that as the time goes on so does the game time. Read the whole post sketchy ass guy. It wouldn't make sense if the whole online was set after the offline tho. That's what I said.

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TagoKG

new location its tahiti

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Breadpit
52 minutes ago, MrPhillips said:

mk2 is already nerfed enough. You can't call it for 5 minutes after it's destroyed and it only holds 20 rockets, plus mk2 can be easily put down with any vehicle with homing missiles. Nerfing mk2 would only mean tougher life for grinders, plus "griefers" can use other vehicles to do their stuff. The problem is not in the vehicles, the problem is in the people abusing it.

Ok sorry i mean nerf it to the ground! And increase the payout so you won't harm grinders then 😛

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Spectre "2K"
28 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

Does anyone watch Larry Lawton on YouTube? Makes me wonder whether they've taken some of his ideas and making a "super realistic" heist with multi-level planning (in terms of what it could be for a game).

*pulls up to the bank and slightly grazes the curb*

 

"the heist is already over"

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capton_cutclass

Yeah LC may come but im telling you it won't come until PS5.

 

If there's fresh content for that map...it will be a major boost to sell PS5.

 

Theyd have to be insane to release it as a free DLC.

 

I was wondering why they would play that word game...its intentional No Doubt but if they were making a map expansion for the Remaster on PS5...they wouldn't be lying to us...

 

More like screwing with us. Which boy do they love doing.

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seth297
8 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

I think if LC is the new location they're talking about, it's going to appear in its entirety.

 

I could see them letting current gen go out with a bang and giving us a new map with very limited interaction as a tease for what next-gen is capable of.

 

Then you make LC the new LS on PS5 XSX by adding all the new and old content on both maps.

i agree but i think lc if it is the new location will be free roam at least in online to give players a taste of lc in the new online for next gen in 2021 . 

this will be the final dlc for current gen regardless so just lc and the content of this update is pushing it but can be done on current gen give them a taste of what to come with future updates on next gen 

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Gaffa
3 minutes ago, Spectre "2K" said:

*pulls up to the bank and slightly grazes the curb*

 

"the heist is already over"

LOL. Yeah those sort of things had me in stitches! :D 

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IknowYouBuySharkcards0-0
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MrPhillips said:

mk2 is already nerfed enough. You can't call it for 5 minutes after it's destroyed and it only holds 20 rockets, plus mk2 can be easily put down with any vehicle with homing missiles. Nerfing mk2 would only mean tougher life for grinders, plus "griefers" can use other vehicles to do their stuff. The problem is not in the vehicles, the problem is in the people abusing it.

Giving the mk2 a low maximum height cap and nerfing it's rockets won't make it tougher. Against npcs you also don't need countermeasures. 

 

 

Most people in gta online do go on random killing sprees and often they do use their oppressor mk2. 

 

It's just not as big of a problem because there are so many low levels right now. 

 

 

Gta online is very sweaty and people abuse what they can 

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Zak Ras
Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

I'm just saying don't go in with high expectations, it doesn't even look like it would have a theme that gives you a general idea of what to expect.

Save the hype for the holiday update.

So my concerns were well founded?

 

Ill-Gotten Gains 3 without the mansions. A more modern version of 2013/14 style updates.

 

- No tie-in storyline or new tie-in missions. (MAYBE new Contact Missions for Ron come Halloween relating to government & alien conspiracies, hopefully the add a "T" and "L" minimap icon with the update, just in case.)

- No buy-in prices, no new properties, maybe a few new safehouse locations, like Chumash.

 

- New cars, clothing, (a weapon or two?)

- New collect-a-thon or mystery?

- New arcade machines? Just a few, about 3 or 4...

- Bug fixes and a few community requested features for older sections of the game.

- They alter the Casino Heist to make it even more difficult on top of the randomized Cleaners Trolley and extra NOOSE patrols.

 

That's chill, BECAUSE they've announced in the same breath that December will feature a big Heist update. So long as THAT gets a marketing period like what After Hours got with The Guest List, mixed with hopefully an IRL website/meta game relating to the "new location", like how the Casino website started getting hacked by Lester prior to the Heist update because of his "professional curiousity" that he mentions in the Mirror Park cutscene.

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ghostsoap01
53 minutes ago, Gaffa said:

Does anyone watch Larry Lawton on YouTube? Makes me wonder whether they've taken some of his ideas and making a "super realistic" heist with multi-level planning (in terms of what it could be for a game).

 

Maybe we'll finally get to rob Lester, he'd be pretty happy about that 😂.

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DaGhostQc
45 minutes ago, The Jungz said:

I think if LC is the new location they're talking about, it's going to appear in its entirety.

 

I could see them letting current gen go out with a bang and giving us a new map with very limited interaction as a tease for what next-gen is capable of.

 

Then you make LC the new LS on PS5 XSX by adding all the new and old content on both maps.

 

Unless you need to take a plane, that would be the dumbest move from R* to hot glue the east coast to the west coast.

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SummerFreeze
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MrPhillips said:

mk2 is already nerfed enough.

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

So my concerns were well founded?

 

Ill-Gotten Gains 3 without the mansions. A more modern version of 2013/14 style updates.

 

- No tie-in storyline or new tie-in missions. (MAYBE new Contact Missions for Ron come Halloween relating to government & alien conspiracies, hopefully the add a "T" and "L" minimap icon with the update, just in case.)

- No buy-in prices, no new properties, maybe a few new safehouse locations, like Chumash.

 

- New cars, clothing, (a weapon or two?)

- New collect-a-thon or mystery?

- New arcade machines? Just a few, about 3 or 4...

- Bug fixes and a few community requested features for older sections of the game.

- They alter the Casino Heist to make it even more difficult on top of the randomized Cleaners Trolley and extra NOOSE patrols.

 

That's chill, BECAUSE they've announced in the same breath that December will feature a big Heist update. So long as THAT gets a marketing period like what After Hours got with The Guest List, mixed with hopefully an IRL website/meta game relating to the "new location", like how the Casino website started getting hacked by Lester prior to the Heist update because of his "professional curiousity" that he mentions in the Mirror Park cutscene.

If they had all of these features as well as mansions I think it would be a satisfactory update, and I wouldn't be saving all my hype for December, but by the looks of things it will probably just be that "fun mix of content from the game's vast array of enjoyable experiences" or whatever it was.

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ColdCase657

If this is just a filler update to hold us over until winter, it would be a perfect time to utilize what’s already in the game. Give us the ability to use ALL of the wheel options for vehicles in the game, give us normal variants of existing cars that have forced mods (ZR-380 for example), update our color selections so we don’t have to bend over backwards for worn textures and unique colors. Those types of things would really breathe new life into the game. 

 

*for me anyways*

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IknowYouBuySharkcards0-0

Maybe we're finally getting flare sticks 

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Black-Dragon96
4 hours ago, Piro said:

SF and LV are 100% out of the picture. No way they would build a whole new city from scratch just for some online update. People don't realize how much work goes into creating a whole new world... Thats the most time consuming part of creating a new game. Sending people to that location to do field research, mapping the whole layout, creating every building, every texture, every small detail, making pathways for npcs, cars etc. Thats unbelievable amount of work.  Especially for a company that constantly reuses SP content just to save time and money on those online updates and always goes for "the least amount of effort" approach . If they wanted to make a new city from scratch, they would just sell that as a new game instead.

But LC still makes sense since all they would have to do is port the city from gta IV. Add better trees, couple upgraded models, hd textures etc. 90% of the work is already done. We still remember the old leak from one of R*s 3d artists, right? That was clearly remade in gtaV ending using gtaV assets:
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So we could see something like that. Even if its only a small portion of the map at first (with the whole map being released later to bait people into buying the game for the 3x when next gen consoles drop)

And when it comes to "not being sure that the game could even handle it" - IF its a new city like LC or NY you would have to load to a different lobby. And since they would be starting with a "clean slate"  in a way (instead of adding more and more sh*t to the original map) I'm sure the new city would run way smoother than LS after all those years. The main problem with gtao stability is that they constantly adding more and more stuff but they have to dance around the old code not to brake anything.

But if we are talking about a smaller island (something the size of Paleto Bay) in the same lobby - yeah, the game still should hangle it since that new island would be far away from the mainland. That way you don't have to load both islands in high resolution at the same time. The game should have no problems supporting something of this size:

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But ofc " entirely new location" might mean anything at this point. Might as well be a huge cruse ship or something like that and thats it.

 

Well I honestly would not even expect LC.

Yeah they did some sh*t with it back in the day, but we have no idea if it was meant as a re-release for gta 4 on current gen (wich would have been canned due to gta onlines success), as an expansion for gta 5 (I doubt that tbh) or just something nice that a dev wanted to put on his portfolio.

I mean a whole new city, even if they worked on it before, for one update?

Nah.

 

I honestly dont even think that NY is that likely. As you said it would need a new lobby since the game couldnt handle both areas (and having a region supposedly close to canada sitting right next to southern california would be kinda stupid).

The island solution seems the most likely to me.

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29 minutes ago, Zak Ras said:

So my concerns were well founded?

 

Ill-Gotten Gains 3 without the mansions. A more modern version of 2013/14 style updates.

 

- No tie-in storyline or new tie-in missions. (MAYBE new Contact Missions for Ron come Halloween relating to government & alien conspiracies, hopefully the add a "T" and "L" minimap icon with the update, just in case.)

- No buy-in prices, no new properties, maybe a few new safehouse locations, like Chumash.

 

- New cars, clothing, (a weapon or two?)

- New collect-a-thon or mystery?

- New arcade machines? Just a few, about 3 or 4...

- Bug fixes and a few community requested features for older sections of the game.

- They alter the Casino Heist to make it even more difficult on top of the randomized Cleaners Trolley and extra NOOSE patrols.

 

That's chill, BECAUSE they've announced in the same breath that December will feature a big Heist update. So long as THAT gets a marketing period like what After Hours got with The Guest List, mixed with hopefully an IRL website/meta game relating to the "new location", like how the Casino website started getting hacked by Lester prior to the Heist update because of his "professional curiousity" that he mentions in the Mirror Park cutscene.

That would do the job, and maybe 6 new mark 2 weapons?

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joe1606

Do you think the next heist still involve Dungan's? It seems strange that our "relation" with Dungan's organisation is left as it is, without any response from them... Maybe the summer update will let us play the end of this story. Then again, without Dungan's does this mean no more casino heist?

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