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CarimboHanky
3 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

If they did, I’d bet a tenner you and everyone else begging for more garage space would have loaded up every available slot with more cars and would be right back here whinging about more space.

 

sell some sh*t

but why tho?

 

why will i have to sell part of my collection when they could simply give us more garage space 🤷🏼‍♂️ given the ever increasing amount of vehicles they add to the game, having a property cap that limits how many vehicles we can store makes no sense.

 

if anything, removing the cap benefits them as im sure many will go out in a spending spree.

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19 minutes ago, rollschuh2282 said:

ok.

bc the discussion about mocap came up again...

Every. Single. Animation. Is. Mocapped.

 

if they want to add some new actions = Mocap.

if they want some new unique weapons that require unique animations = Mocap.

it´s not as easy as "just taking existing and cutting them up"

they can maybe edit existing animations for very small things.

like the seat position in vehicles and such.

but they are not able to create entire cutscenes from existing animations.

bc that would just look bad.

I dunno, I mean it kinda worked for Disney...😂😂

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Crafty-
3 hours ago, aaron2997 said:

I do agree with what you're saying here. I think that they learned this lesson with the heists update. However, they could at least tell us something, maybe tease what's to come. For example, if it actually is a police themed update, they could probably say in a newswire post: "Increased police crackdowns around the state have driven up demand of illicit goods." Or they could just explicitly tell us, "Hey, we're working on an update. It's taking longer than usual, but thanks for hanging in there." Instead of their little "coming soon" line. Some communication is better than none, especially in this current climate.

 

We're deep in to "what ifs" here but lets say they have 2 or 3 possible candidates for next update, all have had a bit of work on them already and all have a different theme and they all have a different requirement in terms of resource to finish them. If they don't know which way to go, they can't tell us what the next update is.

 

It sounds chaotic and maybe it is! For all we know there is a DLC finished, ready to go but it needs final QA / playtest or they need to decide on the economy of it (e.g. is that car $2m or $1.75m? is the payout for that job $200k or $300k?).

 

I could believe that the crappy event weeks have caused a drop in player numbers and also sharkcard sales. The crappy weeks could be because they don't want players racking up more GTA$. So they keep potential earnings down. We and R* know that this strategy means drop in income, but they might have made that choice to do other things with the thought in the back of their mind that Casino heists dragged players back in and recorded record numbers of people playing 6 years after release. So, if they've done that before, they can do it again. Throw in that with the virus plenty of people have been playing games the last few months anyway, so maybe player numbers haven't dropped that much?

 

Maybe they've made the strategic decisions to meet some deadline or target that we don't know about and left GTA ticking over, once they meet the deadline they'll come back to GTA.. who knows! Despite what some may think I very much doubt that they're doing it to deliberately piss people off.

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Posted (edited)

We need more garage space and hangar too, it's not whining, it's pure common sense, in Game there are more Cars than garage space, same for hangar.

 

I would never understand why some forumers complaint about other forumers asking for more space 🧐

55 minutes ago, CarimboHanky said:

but why tho?

 

why will i have to sell part of my collection when they could simply give us more garage space 🤷🏼‍♂️ given the ever increasing amount of vehicles they add to the game, having a property cap that limits how many vehicles we can store makes no sense.

 

if anything, removing the cap benefits them as im sure many will go out in a spending spree.

I agree with dis 100%;)

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555-We-Tip

We can own every gun in the game.

 

We can own every piece of purchasable clothing in the game.

 

We can own every Pegasus vehicle in the game.

 

We can own every business in the game.

 

Owning all the cars in a game with the word "Auto" seems like a reasonable request.

 

 

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SummerFreeze
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Neonchu said:

But with the Casino DLC last year, we had around five posts about the DLC way before it was announced, the first hint being revealed on June 13th if I remember correctly, which showed that the DLC would revolve around gambling. This year though, we've had nothing in terms of hints, and R* is just tweeting about the event weeks, so I don't know if it's really fair to say that everything is as it has always been. If we still think that the DLC will drop Mid/Late July, then R* have around 3 weeks from now, and we've heard complete radio silence on DLC news. It wouldn't be so out of place for the Winter DLC, since usually very little info is given before the update is dropped (DCH and Arena War), but its summer now, and it was in February when we last heard of any new content coming to the game (April if you count the Last Play missions). What is R* doing?

Yes, we had the props in front of the casino indicating construction. But what if the next DLC doesn't transform a building on the map and it isn't as obvious to add props? We got the Gerald mission, which are very likely an indication of what the next DLC will be about... Cops 'n' Crooks would fit that, but there are many other events that could shake up organized crime in LS.

 

1 hour ago, CarimboHanky said:

if anything, removing the cap benefits them as im sure many will go out in a spending spree.

People who buy shark cards to get more than 150 cars are probably extremely rare. I feel for car collectors of course. But if Rockstar had any indication allowing players to own more than that increased their profits, they would have done so already.

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suicidal_banana
9 minutes ago, 555-We-Tip said:

...

- Pretty sure we cant own every gun in the game, obvious partially cut (but functional) weapons aside, explain how you can own a railgun?
- We cant own every piece of clothing, i know you said purchasable but that's just sneaky way of trying to make a point 😛 there are many discussions on these forums about how npc x has clothing item y but we dont.

 

Owning all the cars in a game called Grand Theft Auto is already a lot less reasonable, this isnt the crew or test drive unlimited or something like that, its a crime sim not a car owner sim, cars are just a nice bonus, not the main focus of the game.

I mean dont get me wrong i too would like a 100 car garage, but that would just be stupid, were not jay leno, we're lester's errand boys.

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rollschuh2282
15 hours ago, Rooni said:

They're literally exactly the same. 12:58

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1:48. The animations are just seen at a different angle. 

And with how much they've added to this game over ya know.... S E V E N years it is entirely possible to slap something together with old stuff. I mean hell look at their PS5 reveal. Look at all that new PS5 content they used.
Dialogue can be done from home (yes I know, 'whooosh' the joke)

 

15 hours ago, MaddenedGhost said:

They are not the same, they're doing the same thing, as in, they are holding an object, but the animations are different, if you can't see it, I can't help you.

I have no idea what you meant by PS5 reveal/content.

here, i recorded both cutscenes real quick so you guys can compare the difference.

i think it is a edited version of the animation in that EMP cutscene.

like without the arm grabbing it the door and such.

 

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MaddenedGhost
2 hours ago, rollschuh2282 said:

ok.

bc the discussion about mocap came up again...

Every. Single. Animation. Is. Mocapped.

 

if they want to add some new actions = Mocap.

if they want some new unique weapons that require unique animations = Mocap.

it´s not as easy as "just taking existing and cutting them up"

they can maybe edit existing animations for very small things.

like the seat position in vehicles and such.

but they are not able to create entire cutscenes from existing animations.

bc that would just look bad.

That is exactly what I was saying before, it won't look right.

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Piro
1 hour ago, rollschuh2282 said:

ok.

bc the discussion about mocap came up again...

Every. Single. Animation. Is. Mocapped.

 

if they want to add some new actions = Mocap.

if they want some new unique weapons that require unique animations = Mocap.

it´s not as easy as "just taking existing and cutting them up"

they can maybe edit existing animations for very small things.

like the seat position in vehicles and such.

but they are not able to create entire cutscenes from existing animations.

bc that would just look bad.


On the other hand - they constantly reuse existing animations. You would be surprised how much they can reuse. And they probably have a huuuge liberality of unused animations.

if they don't 100% NEED new actions, they won't waste time on recording it. And also its not like gtao update needs a ton of new animations...

it they adding a new weapon = usually they just reuse animation that looks close enough to the thing they need, even if the reload animation dosn't fit and threes some clipping issues. 
if they need an animation of someone walking back and forth - they already have it.
if they need an animation of a dropping something - they will edit the one they already have.

And with the amount of mocap they have from all of those years they could easily create a cut scene that dosn't look bad at all. Hell, they could probably release a dlc without a single new animation at this point.

They could even make a dlc where you just enter a building, answer the phone and thats your introduction cutscene. Thats it, nothing else needed. 

Also its funny that people think mo-cap would be the hardest thing to do because of covid.. you could easily do it with social distancing rules. You just need one guy with mo-cap suit and another one next to a computer. 

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MaddenedGhost
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

 

 

Well, the thing is compared to last year Coronavirus hasn't changed anything. The Casino DLC was released July 23 and announced a week before. The last DLC before that was Arena War, released December 11. So right now we are in the exact same situation DLC-wise as we were last year -- virus or not.

Except it was teased with the construction props spawning next to the old casino like a month before.

7 minutes ago, Piro said:




Also its funny that people think mo-cap would be the hardest thing to do because of covid.. you could easily do it with social distancing rules. You just need one guy with mo-cap suit and another one next to a computer. 

I think it's to do with not gathering a big team of animators and directors in one place.



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Crateman
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, suicidal_banana said:

 

Owning all the cars in a game called Grand Theft Auto is already a lot less reasonable,

I strongly disagree, we are kingpins, own all business, we have special garages, every update brings between 15/25 Cars, we have a dlc import/export specific related to Cars, we have custom auto shop in our ceo special garage, Cars are the core of this Game, and You Say that is less reasonable own all the Cars the game offers, really ??

 

This post is just to express an opinion, with all due respect :)

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555-We-Tip
1 hour ago, suicidal_banana said:

- Pretty sure we cant own every gun in the game, obvious partially cut (but functional) weapons aside, explain how you can own a railgun?
- We cant own every piece of clothing, i know you said purchasable but that's just sneaky way of trying to make a point 😛 there are many discussions on these forums about how npc x has clothing item y but we dont.

 

Owning all the cars in a game called Grand Theft Auto is already a lot less reasonable, this isnt the crew or test drive unlimited or something like that, its a crime sim not a car owner sim, cars are just a nice bonus, not the main focus of the game.

I mean dont get me wrong i too would like a 100 car garage, but that would just be stupid, were not jay leno, we're lester's errand boys.

Perhaps I need to be more clear. We can own every gun for sale in the game. Same with every piece of clothing for sale. Same for just about everything except property, and therefore, cars.

 

What's stupid or not stupid has long been thrown out of the window in this game. There is no intention of realism, no semblance of a plausible storyline, it's just an open sandbox with content added from time to time. This game has been whatever you'd like it to be for a long time, so if I like to collect cars and am willing to pay money for them, why should I be limited?

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SummerFreeze
39 minutes ago, MaddenedGhost said:

Except it was teased with the construction props spawning next to the old casino like a month before.

I already addressed this above. There can't be construction props if no building is getting remodeled; and we already got a teaser for the next DLC with the Gerald mission.

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Posted (edited)

I just hope the next update actually adds something new to the game that changes the way we play, some new features, improvements, unique vehicles or weapons. Not yet another copypasted update with the same stuff we seen before, that won't be enough to bring be back I'm afraid. We need something NEW, something fresh. Not another car with missiles / minigun, 10 new missions and thats it.

There are soooo many little things that they could add/improve...

- New parachutes with rocket boost
- Customizable ceo vehicles (or a new role beside ceos&bikers)
- Better phones
- More RC toys
- Weapons with special abilities like the axe
- Weapons you can use underwater
- Truly unique vehicles with new features like: 

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Innespace-Seabreacher-sub-8.jpg

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44 minutes ago, MaddenedGhost said:

Except it was teased with the construction props spawning next to the old casino like a month before.

I think it's to do with not gathering a big team of animators and directors in one place.

Lol those people in the picture don't do nothing at all... You don't need any of them. You can do the same work with 2-3 people max.

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2 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

I already addressed this above. There can't be construction props if no building is getting remodeled; and we already got a teaser for the next DLC with the Gerald mission.

Teaser of next dlc with Gerald missions? Wut? First time I'm hearing about this.

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Piro said:

Teaser of next dlc with Gerald missions? First time I'm hearing this.

Gerald is referencing upcoming events in these missions... of course it's more vague than putting construction props in front of the casino.

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Geisterfaust
Posted (edited)
14 hours ago, Son of Dutch said:

I just don’t understand how other gaming companies are able to deliver significant content updates during pandemic but not R*? Hell we are even getting major AAA games releases every month now. 

Some of these companies are sitting on content that is ready to be released for months and famous for selling incomplete games. Most of these companies are also presenting roadmaps for future updates and not suffering from dysfunctional paranoia that affects R* severely and possibly restricts remote work.

 

We almost never know when the next update will be out, what will be the topic and what will come next after that. Compare it with... I don't know, Codemasters that announce seasons for Dirt Rally 2 months ahead.

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Tomtomsengermany
12 minutes ago, Piro said:

 

 


edit:

Teaser of next dlc with Gerald missions? Wut? First time I'm hearing about this.

Rockstar about Geralds last play:

 

"Word on the street is that a serious downturn is about to hit the black markets of Los Santos." 

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61549/Gerald-s-Last-Play

 

 

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Grinch of Los Santos
7 minutes ago, Tomtomsengermany said:

Rockstar about Geralds last play:

 

"Word on the street is that a serious downturn is about to hit the black markets of Los Santos." 

 

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61549/Gerald-s-Last-Play

 

 

Would that indicate a Federal kind of DLC though? Something like IAA or FIB/LSPD? 

Also, I really wish R* would release the Securoserv Uniform as part of Organization Clothing! 

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1 minute ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

Would that indicate a Federal kind of DLC though? Something like IAA or FIB/LSPD? 

Also, I really wish R* would release the Securoserv Uniform as part of Organization Clothing! 

Yeah, and maybe the DEA equivalent from Series A could be involved too??

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I'm afraid that we won't get the DLC until the release of this enhanced edition in the "second half of 2021"... 😐

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Grinch of Los Santos
1 minute ago, Cygi said:

I'm afraid that we won't get the DLC until the release of this enhanced edition in the "second half of 2021"... 😐

Not likely, This version of Online will receive updates even after ps5 launch. How many more is something to be concerned about. 

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1 hour ago, Piro said:

I just hope the next update actually adds something new to the game that changes the way we play, some new features, improvements, unique vehicles or weapons. Not yet another copypasted update with the same stuff we seen before, that won't be enough to bring be back I'm afraid. We need something NEW, something fresh. Not another car with missiles / minigun, 10 new missions and thats it.

There are soooo many little things that they could add/improve...

- New parachutes with rocket boost
- Customizable ceo vehicles (or a new role beside ceos&bikers)
- Better phones
- More RC toys
- Weapons with special abilities like the axe
- Weapons you can use underwater
- Truly unique vehicles with new features like: 

palc01.jpg 

Innespace-Seabreacher-sub-8.jpg

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"I just hope the next update actually adds something new to the game that changes the way we play, some new features, improvements, unique vehicles or weapons" - I think that will only truly happen, and is a maybe, when the "expanded and enhanced" version of gta v comes to next gen.

- New parachutes with rocket boost - sorry and correct me if i'm wrong, but, it wasn't you one of the anti-goofy-stuff-to-gta-online-that-makes-the-game-like-saint's-row guy? What you needed that for? I would rather take a jetpack mk ii (like an iron-man exoeskeleton (yeah, i don't mind that much goofy stuff in the game) or wing suit at least.


- Customizable ceo vehicles (or a new role beside ceos&bikers) - Yep, i agree, bcz it doesn't make sense a ceo that created a criminal corporation can't have a drug lab. I understand that they needed at some extend to restrict that to MC clubs, or they wouldn't buy a MC Clubhouse, but after those years, i don't know why we can't get a unified organization, since we already have that control center in the arcade that unite all the bussinesses in terms of management.


- Better phones - Agree, and also, why still we can't have an animation of picking the phone and use it, we kinda had that since day 1 when you are entering the online and sometimes the character does the animation of being in the cellphone before you take control of it. Or more recently, when you're hacking the casino security cameras, the character pulls out the phone.


- More RC toys - That would be cool and i remember Fun datamining some files that had the feltzer and the jester classic as RC's.


- Weapons with special abilities like the axe -  More weapons sure, i'm still waiting for the katana. 😛 But about the abilities only if there's a switch to turn them on and off. It's quite annoying having to deal with that Trevor's ability each time i want to hit someone with that axe, not to mention...3 different axes? Why, when they could at least first, give us different melee weapons and then, sure, go for it R*, if you want to have different variations.


- Weapons you can use underwater - Weapons underwater sure, like an harpoon, but the underwater is something that needs a big improvement in a lot of aspects to have a purpose of becoming a (naval) dlc.

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aaron2997
51 minutes ago, Kernel said:

Yeah, and maybe the DEA equivalent from Series A could be involved too??

That would be neat. And our contact could be that guy that blew the sting.

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Standard Deluxe 59
7 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

sell some sh*t

No

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SummerFreeze
1 hour ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

Would that indicate a Federal kind of DLC though? Something like IAA or FIB/LSPD? 

Also, I really wish R* would release the Securoserv Uniform as part of Organization Clothing! 

Yeah, the theme of the Gerald missions made sense when the next DLC supposedly was Cops 'n' Crooks. But it's not the only thing that would fit... anything that shakes up organized crime in Los Santos or the black market.

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

Would that indicate a Federal kind of DLC though? Something like IAA or FIB/LSPD? 

Also, I really wish R* would release the Securoserv Uniform as part of Organization Clothing! 

I'm leaning more to a finance and felony part 3..."black markets".

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XOIIIIIXIIIIIXO
4 hours ago, CarimboHanky said:

but why tho?

 

why will i have to sell part of my collection when they could simply give us more garage space 🤷🏼‍♂️ given the ever increasing amount of vehicles they add to the game, having a property cap that limits how many vehicles we can store makes no sense.

 

if anything, removing the cap benefits them as im sure many will go out in a spending spree.

Exactly there's mods that allow players to have over 100 cars in a single garage and its stable

 

R* just has a trash business setup

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Nameless_Outlaw
2 hours ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

This version of Online will receive updates even after ps5 lau

It won’t 

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2 hours ago, Grinch of Los Santos said:

Not likely, This version of Online will receive updates even after ps5 launch. How many more is something to be concerned about. 

Rockstar did say they have big plans for GTA in 2020, so we'll get something this year for sure.

 

1 hour ago, VitoCorleone1992 said:

I'm leaning more to a finance and felony part 3..."black markets".

My opinion, not likely. I'm still gonna go by what Yan said "No one wants to be jailed" and being a police update, named State of Emergency

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