Money wipe

[dieseltech20]

7 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I never saw anyone mention KD 

You weren't paying attention then   

 

 It's on page 7. Post by cosmic buffalo and a response to it.

[Gorn Lord]

42 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Unfortunately that’s not how the world works...people can do whatever they like but there’s no reason they should enjoy the same benefits as someone putting the work in when they haven’t...not just my view either but the view of the makers of the game.

 

Except that's exactly how the world works. Do you truly believe every successful person in the world has put in tremendous amounts of work to get where they are at? Work smarter, not harder.

[Halal Cyborg]

2 minutes ago, dieseltech20 said:

You weren't paying attention then   

 

 It's on page 7. Post by cosmic buffalo and a response to it.

I saw it tbh but it was ages back and wasn’t the focal point of the (fairly) civilised debate from (most) parties.

Just now, Gorn Lord said:

Except that's exactly how the world works. Do you truly believe every successful person in the world has put in tremendous amounts of work to get where they are at? Work smarter, not harder.

I work smart...glitchers are not working they’re the equivalent to people in and out of prison.

[Gorn Lord]

2 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I saw it tbh but it was ages back and wasn’t the focal point of the (fairly) civilised debate from (most) parties.

I work smart...glitchers are not working they’re the equivalent to people in and out of prison.

No, you work hard. The fact that you are so upset by others just enjoying the game kind of shows this. That's great that spending hours a day doing the same tasks to earn credits is what you think the game is, but some of us would rather spend those hours just driving the vehicles in the big sandbox that this game used to be.

[Halal Cyborg]

2 minutes ago, Gorn Lord said:

No, you work hard. The fact that you are so upset by others just enjoying the game kind of shows this. That's great that spending hours a day doing the same tasks to earn credits is what you think the game is, but some of us would rather spend those hours just driving the vehicles in the big sandbox that this game used to be.

With a side of messing with people no doubt

[kenmy13999]

1 hour ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I can see your point...I hate shark cards too and tbh I think they shouldn’t but ultimately they’re better than the glitchers in my book...in a sense they like glitchers tend to not have the knowledge of how to efficiently make money though.

 

At the end of the day shark cards are how people justify glitching but I’ve never bought one and earned 1.3bn in this game so the arguments don’t hold for me.

I don't like any kind of microtransactions but out of most of them I think shark cards might be the best way, only problem is that R* have geared the game to much towards buying them imo. 

 

I think you're maybe looking at some of these things from a little narrow point of view (no offence meant from me). You say that glitchers don't have the knowledge to grind efficiently but maybe they just don't have the interest to do the same fetch and deliver quests 1000 times just to be able to buy some things. They might be more interested in doing things they think is fun, like racing, dm, lts etc etc.

I've been i some different crews and several of them are kind of racing oriented and host playlists every day with races, lts etc, not good money makers even if you win every race and other job in that pl, which is relatively unlikely 

 

I once asked a friend if he was interested in doing the criminal mastermind challenge but he said no, heisting isn't his thing, he can do a setup or a finale from time to time but commit to the cmm would make him feel like he was wearing a white restraining jacket.. This guy doesn't glitch or anything tho but the money he would gain would make a good impact on his bank account. 

 

This is a sandbox game after all and offers much more than just to grind in the most efficient way to make money and a lot of those things isn't good money makers, even when double money 😊 

 

Edit: racing have been one of my biggest interests in this game and one time there was double money on stunt races i won between 70 and 80 races in that week, I think I made a little over $3 million from racing that week iirc, of course I had at least my bunker in the background making money but still.. 

Edited May 10, 2020 by kenmy13999

[Halal Cyborg]

I have no issue with people playing whatever they want whenever they want...you can still do that without cheating 

[Gorn Lord]

1 minute ago, Halal Cyborg said:

With a side of messing with people no doubt

Yes, I mess with all the people(if any) in the crew rooms I inhabit, it's why we play together. In the off chance I'll check out a public room I might go passively ram some aircraft that griefers are spawning at the helipads right before they enter it. Other than that I rarely leave passive because it's much more enjoyable to not be blown up every time I spawn something in and it tends to make people more uncomfortable when you just hover a transparent Tula over their gunfight.

[Halal Cyborg]

9 minutes ago, Gorn Lord said:

No, you work hard. The fact that you are so upset by others just enjoying the game kind of shows this. That's great that spending hours a day doing the same tasks to earn credits is what you think the game is, but some of us would rather spend those hours just driving the vehicles in the big sandbox that this game used to be.

I’m not upset with others just enjoying the game...they’re welcome to do that without glitching 

[Lonely-Martin]

3 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

With a side of messing with people no doubt

Respectfully, I know too many that may be cheeky in their earnings, but are very very good and helpful gamers with other players. Also learned my lessons regarding some that confess to being griefers that are good helpful players in other areas of the game too. The game is just so varied with how players enjoy it that it's hard to assume much IMO.

[kenmy13999]

7 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I have no issue with people playing whatever they want whenever they want...you can still do that without cheating 

A lot of the people I talked about in my latest post are duping cars so they can afford to buy several different cars in each class to stay competitive, before R* implemented so people can restrict their custom races so certain cars it was enough to own the top car of each class, now you need more cars because you never know what restrictions creators have put in their races. With low paying jobs and high and/or same skill level on most participants it takes a lot of time to be able to buy said cars but not everyone have the time to spend several hours every day just to be able to be competitive in the things they think is fun.. 

So can you tell me how these people ruin and devaluates your experience if they dupe some cars to be able to buy what they need to be able to stay somewhat competitive and enjoy the races? I think you probably have more money in game than most of these people.. 😊

[Joe Biden]

1 hour ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Unfortunately that’s not how the world works...people can do whatever they like but there’s no reason they should enjoy the same benefits as someone putting the work in when they haven’t...not just my view either but the view of the makers of the game.

The only acceptable glitches are ones that offer no monetary advantage or advantage over other players.

As you mentioned you mess with other players minding their own business...this doesn’t juxtapose your playstyle as you don’t need to make money to play the game and are afforded this luxury of time...I am too busy making money to worry about making someone annoyed.

 

I help other players all the time too...you’re a virus 

This isn't the world, this is a video game. Any semblance of rarity is purely artificial as any item in game is infinite and there isn't a market because no scarcity and there's no easy way to trade goods with other players. The view of the makers is setting the game up in a way that makes makes them the largest profit, nothing else. 

 

Players who don't want to play with other people can play in invite lobbies or solo public lobbies, easy pz to set one of those up. Lifting up cars about as menial as annoyances can get in this game and is more of a harmless prank than anything.

46 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I have no issue with people playing whatever they want whenever they want...you can still do that without cheating 

''I have no issue with people playing the game how they want to, as long as they don't play the game in a way I don't want them to.''

 

How open minded of you lmao

[Halal Cyborg]

Cheating isn’t playing the game in any sense 

[Joe Biden]

Kind of hard to cheat in a game if you aren't even playing it. Cheaters are still playing the game whether you like it or not.

[Gorn Lord]

Playing the game is logging into online. The end. It's a sandbox, whatever game you come up with once you're in it is how you're playing.

[Cavot]

Every game has its share of exploiters/cheaters. Rockstar has always been fairly lenient in regards to punishing/wiping players, which gave those who abused the casino chip exploit a false sense of security. Most of those players who were completely reset likely thought they would recieve a money wipe at worse since that's been the norm for quite some time. People became far too greedy and took a huge risk messing around with a new type of money glitch instead of sticking to older methods that had a much less likely chance of causing them to be wiped. 

 

 

[kenmy13999]

33 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Cheating isn’t playing the game in any sense 

So if people are putting hundreds, maybe thousands hours in to the game doing low paying jobs but use a hour or two duping some cars to be able to buy what they want, they aren't playing the game? 

[Halal Cyborg]

19 minutes ago, Gorn Lord said:

Playing the game is logging into online. The end. It's a sandbox, whatever game you come up with once you're in it is how you're playing.

Is being afk in a mission playing?

8 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

So if people are putting hundreds, maybe thousands hours in to the game doing low paying jobs but use a hour or two duping some cars to be able to buy what they want, they aren't playing the game? 

No they’re playing the game with a side of glitching

37 minutes ago, extremely stable genius said:

Kind of hard to cheat in a game if you aren't even playing it. Cheaters are still playing the game whether you like it or not.

If you are playing someone at chess and decide to get on the table and duplicate kings and queens you aren’t playing chess.

[GTAMamba]

1 hour ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I have no issue with people playing whatever they want whenever they want...you can still do that without cheating 

Yep, I've yet to see a need to cheat. Racing/deathmatches are fairly cheap, all you need is a car or 2 and a few weapons.

 

Certainly no reason to glitch hundreds of millions. 

[kenmy13999]

12 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

 

No they’re playing the game with a side of glitching

 

But how are these players ruining your gaming experience? 

[Joe Biden]

13 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

 

If you are playing someone at chess and decide to get on the table and duplicate kings and queens you aren’t playing chess.

False equivalency. Money glitchers are driving cars, doing cop chases etc. just like other other people in the game are.

[kenmy13999]

7 minutes ago, GTAMamba said:

Yep, I've yet to see a need to cheat. Racing/deathmatches are fairly cheap, all you need is a car or 2 and a few weapons.

 

Certainly no reason to glitch hundreds of millions. 

You should read some of the things I mentioned earlier regarding racing, the need for only a car or two are long gone and needing several cars in each class is mandatory in certain groups/crews etc.. Who said some of these people are glitching hundreds of millions? Or does it only become a problem when people glitch hundreds of millions? 🤔

[Halal Cyborg]

3 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

But how are these players ruining your gaming experience? 

Well...they’re devaluing everything for one if they’re decent folk like the people you describe...personally if I’ve ever goaded someone into paying insurance fees they tend to message with “lol I hav bilionz” I’m sorry but it’s logical to me that if people are not engaging in profitable activities and are flying oppressors with rockets from the terrabyte and that’s their regular playstyle then it stands to reason they have no problem with glitches and make the game 100% griefing with no need to earn.

[Killermills01]

On 5/9/2020 at 4:24 AM, Fun 2 said:

  Reveal hidden contents

https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360047331174/Casino-Chip-Selling-Abuse-in-Grand-Theft-Auto-Online

 

 

This glitch was so easy to trace back, simply check who has been converting his chips to money by huge amounts like millions upon millions.

There's no way someone would earn one million chips legitimately in one day, I mean it's possible but consider the RNG and the boredom you would get from staying all day in the casino, most people thought Rockstar won't do such unexpected thing after years of not punishing glitchers in extreme cases like this.

What do you think the new DLC update is going to be Tezfun2

[Halal Cyborg]

3 minutes ago, extremely stable genius said:

False equivalency. Money glitchers are driving cars, doing cop chases etc. just like other other people in the game are.

Some of time yes that’s when they’re playing the game...when they’re glitching they’re circumventing it.

[deadx23]

Cheating is a mini game with nice rewards, unless you get caught 🤪

[GTAMamba]

2 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

But how are these players ruining your gaming experience? 

I would say 90 percent of griefers glitched their money, glitchers are also the reason the prices are so high for each DLC. A majority become bored with the game so they spend their time messing with other people. (Especially people doing sales)

If they had to actually earn their money like the rest of us I guarantee griefing would be much less common.

 

Most of all it waters down the game for many of us on this board who took the time to actually play the game as intended, as like I said earlier they have the same cars, planes, items ect.. that I grinded my ass off for.

 

[kenmy13999]

4 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Well...they’re devaluing everything for one if they’re decent folk like the people you describe...

What are they devaluing and why are they devaluing it? 

[Joe Biden]

Just now, Halal Cyborg said:

Some of time yes that’s when they’re playing the game...when they’re glitching they’re circumventing it.

They're still playing the game. Whether they are doing something that you want them doing or not. They're circumventing parts of the game they don't like to do the things they do like to do. They are playing the game as intended, as a means of enjoying themselves, which is what entertainment media is for.

[Halal Cyborg]

1 minute ago, GTAMamba said:

I would say 90 percent of griefers glitched their money, glitchers are also the reason the prices are so high for each DLC. A majority become bored with the game so they spend their time messing with other people. (Especially people doing sales)

If they had to actually earn their money like the rest of us I guarantee griefing would be much less common.

 

Most of all it waters down the game for many of us on this board who took the time to actually play the game as intended, as like I said earlier they have the same cars, planes, items ect.. that I grinded my ass off for.

 

Absolutely agree on the messing with sales part...they would be more likely to leave people selling alone if they had to sell stuff...that lobby is a microcosm of online in that sense...if they had sh*t to sell they’d be selling it and not messing with people selling and if doing something else they’d not mess with someone selling in fear that they would blow up their sale...I consider this very basic logic...tell me I’m wrong