Money wipe

[kenmy13999]

4 minutes ago, GTAMamba said:

glitchers are also the reason the prices are so high for each DLC. 

 

People wouldn't feel the need to glitch if the in game prices weren't so high to begin with, the problem is the developers greed.. 

I know a lot of people glitching and most of them doesn't have the same amount of money as Halal Cyborg so if R* goes by the average of everyone's accounts when they set the prices for a dlc I would say him and a lot of other grinders are just as responsible for the high prices 

[Halal Cyborg]

3 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

What are they devaluing and why are they devaluing it? 

The achievement and reward.

 

Even enjoying the stuff in game as it’s meaningless if it requires no effort to acquire.

 

Plain and simple they haven’t earned their money and portfolio...that is irrefutable 

[GTAMamba]

13 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

You should read some of the things I mentioned earlier regarding racing, the need for only a car or two are long gone and needing several cars in each class is mandatory in certain groups/crews etc.. Who said some of these people are glitching hundreds of millions? Or does it only become a problem when people glitch hundreds of millions? 🤔

Sports car class you need the Pariah or GTO to be competitive. (I personally like the GTO better)  If you like the Pariah it was on the podium a few weeks ago.

 

The super car class you need the Krieger or Emerus and the Kreiger is on sale right now. (I went with the Kreiger as it's easier to handle) Rockstar has also given away like 3 million dollars the last few months to help pay for it. That's a couple of million here or there.

 

Certainly not the need to glitch money, just sell a business or 2 and use that to fund the racing habit.

 

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by GTAMamba

[Halal Cyborg]

3 minutes ago, extremely stable genius said:

They're still playing the game. Whether they are doing something that you want them doing or not. They're circumventing parts of the game they don't like to do the things they do like to do. They are playing the game as intended, as a means of enjoying themselves, which is what entertainment media is for.

They aren’t glitching because they enjoy it they’re glitching because they don’t enjoy having to earn items.

 

And it’s fine to use workarounds and shortcuts in a single player game as then it’s impossible for it to affect anyone else...when it’s a digital economy you’re taking a sh*t on the head of players that don’t break the rules and deserve bans.

[kenmy13999]

5 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Absolutely agree on the messing with sales part...they would be more likely to leave people selling alone if they had to sell stuff...that lobby is a microcosm of online in that sense...if they had sh*t to sell they’d be selling it and not messing with people selling and if doing something else they’d not mess with someone selling in fear that they would blow up their sale...I consider this very basic logic...tell me I’m wrong

You’re wrong, you're just assuming that everyone destroying cargo is glitching.. I don't think you know many people glitching, I do and I can guarantee that 90% of them isn't destroying cargo.. Of course there's some rotten eggs but there's also a crazy amount of people not glitching that are destroying cargo just because "the game tells them to do it" 

[JackCarter]

1 hour ago, extremely stable genius said:

This isn't the world, this is a video game.

This is a multi-billion dollar global media entity. Regardless of consumption, it left the 'just a game' category within mere hours of release.

 

Personally, I think criminal charges should be pushed on everyone involved with trying to cheat funds. 

 

 

More so now than ever before. You gotta be a legitimate scumbag to undermine the company for funds when they're trying to run a fundraiser campaign based on those exact funds. 

[kenmy13999]

5 minutes ago, GTAMamba said:

Sports car class you need the Pariah or GTO to be competitive. (I personally like the GTO better)  If you like the Pariah it was on the podium a few weeks ago.

 

The super car class you need the Krieger or Emerus and the Kreiger is on sale right now. (I went with the Kreiger as it's easier to handle) Rockstar has also given away like 3 million dollars the last few months to help pay for it. That's a couple of million here or there.

 

Certainly not the need to glitch money, just sell a business or 2 and use that to fund the racing habit.

 

 

With custom races the creator can set it so those cars can't be used, how difficult is this to understand? 

[Gorn Lord]

3 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Absolutely agree on the messing with sales part...they would be more likely to leave people selling alone if they had to sell stuff...that lobby is a microcosm of online in that sense...if they had sh*t to sell they’d be selling it and not messing with people selling and if doing something else they’d not mess with someone selling in fear that they would blow up their sale...I consider this very basic logic...tell me I’m wrong

These people are going to grief you no matter how much money they have, not sure why you don't see that in your logic. How many times has R* given away the Buzzard for free, which has the same lock on missiles that will destroy your sale? It's not like there aren't already day one vehicles scattered across the map to use that will blow you up for free. There are no rules in this game. Just because you feel achievement from the hours you put into making money and have "earned your money and portfolio" doesn't mean you are playing the game any more than someone who just wants to walk around and look at grass.

[GTAMamba]

14 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Absolutely agree on the messing with sales part...they would be more likely to leave people selling alone if they had to sell stuff...that lobby is a microcosm of online in that sense...if they had sh*t to sell they’d be selling it and not messing with people selling and if doing something else they’d not mess with someone selling in fear that they would blow up their sale...I consider this very basic logic...tell me I’m wrong

Yep, you're not wrong. It's the same thing when glitchers say they don't grief, they just use the glitched money to drive around in their cars or whatever. I simply don't believe those people as you don't even have to glitch to do that. Who risks being banned just to drive a car down to the pier? My favorite is when they say they spend their time helping others sell. It's like really? You hated those jobs so much you were willing to risk being banned now you're going to help someone else sell for a fraction of the money?

 

No, they glitch money with the mindset of buying a bunch of murder machines to kill/mess with other people in free roam, so they can go on Reddit and brag about their KD ratio like it matters in a game like this. Not always, but 90% of the time that's the situation.

 

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by GTAMamba

[GtaLegend15]

Personally I used to grind a lot , but then it just got boring and even then I wasn’t making as much money as I should’ve been . So I just started glitching and grinding when I can , it’s a 6 year old game and at this point I’d rather have lots of money then grind for it 

[Nyamber]

8 minutes ago, JackCarter said:

Personally, I think criminal charges should be pushed on everyone involved with trying to cheat funds. 

This is the funniest f*cking thing I've read in this thread yet.

 

You people are actually insane.

[GTAMamba]

7 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

With custom races the creator can set it so those cars can't be used, how difficult is this to understand? 

Seems like a bunch of excuses but okay, whatever you say.

[Quinn_flower]

Just now, Natsuki said:

This is the funniest f*cking thing I've read in this thread yet.

 

You people are actually insane.

Hey China doesnt play they actually arrest people for cheating.

Can't we go back to 2014 and rooftop rumble was the thing?

[CosmicBuffalo]

Yeah, doing dupe glitches at one point was like a separate thing in and of itself...like playing dms.  Some people actually hated doing them no matter how much money could be made.  Trying to work out the timing, and filling garages.  I must have done the horn glitch with thousands of rusty rebels...I even mistakenly thought it was call the rusty trombone instead of the sad trombone.  At some point before the businesses, they were actually a fun thing to do with other people.  But explaining it to other players again and again, they became a drag and I would not even do them unless they were solo even then players would ask how are you doing them..even heists eventually became like that for me. 

 

Rockstar seems to have finally gone after this community...I mean if you are still doing any glitches you are really asking to have your entire account wiped.  I get the amount of money in this one, but as many haters on here have rightly pointed out, glitching is cheating.  No doubt, its the tolerance from the dev that has allowed it be, imo a big part of the game, an also my opinon, an awesome part.  Hard to know if they are going to still allow it.

Edited May 10, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo

[Lonely-Martin]

27 minutes ago, Killermills01 said:

What do you think the new DLC update is going to be Tezfun2

To be revealed one day in the DLC speculation thread I'd imagine.

22 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

People wouldn't feel the need to glitch if the in game prices weren't so high to begin with, the problem is the developers greed.. 

I know a lot of people glitching and most of them doesn't have the same amount of money as Halal Cyborg so if R* goes by the average of everyone's accounts when they set the prices for a dlc I would say him and a lot of other grinders are just as responsible for the high prices 

Not just grinders, but casual play these days too. I've only been on a couple of hours and made $2m+ from this casino heist and a few contact missions, lol.

[Joe Biden]

Just now, Halal Cyborg said:

The achievement and reward.

 

Even enjoying the stuff in game as it’s meaningless if it requires no effort to acquire.

 

Plain and simple they haven’t earned their money and portfolio...that is irrefutable 

So I take it that random cars you find on the street or cars won on the podium aren't fun to own for you, because they take no effort to require? Spinning a wheel or driving a car into your garage takes less effort than glitching money. So solely going by the logic laid out in the above post, it'd be meaningless to own. 

 

I get that you and other legit players want to ascribe a certain moral to playing legit that brings more gratification to other vehicles, which is fine and understandable. However, not everyone plays the game for that reason. Some people play solely because they want to drive or fly around in the vehicles.

 

13 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

They aren’t glitching because they enjoy it they’re glitching because they don’t enjoy having to earn items.

 

And it’s fine to use workarounds and shortcuts in a single player game as then it’s impossible for it to affect anyone else...when it’s a digital economy you’re taking a sh*t on the head of players that don’t break the rules and deserve bans.

GTA has no digital economy simulating a real world one. Scarcity drives an economy and GTA has infinite goods and monetary resources. Goods all have a flat price and most important of all, selling goods between players themselves isn't possible. Cheaters don't influence the market prices of goods in game because the only transactions happening are between the player and GTA itself.

 

20 minutes ago, JackCarter said:

This is a multi-billion dollar global media entity. Regardless of consumption, it left the 'just a game' category within mere hours of release.

 

Personally, I think criminal charges should be pushed on everyone involved with trying to cheat funds. 

 

 

More so now than ever before. You gotta be a legitimate scumbag to undermine the company for funds when they're trying to run a fundraiser campaign based on those exact funds. 

 I didn't say 'just a game', I stated it was a video game. Whether it comes from a billion dollar company and is a multi million dollar media product doesn't change the fact that it is still a video game.

 

Also lmao actually wanting criminal charges on cheaters, you are being ridiculous.

[Lonely-Martin]

27 minutes ago, JackCarter said:

Personally, I think criminal charges should be pushed on everyone involved with trying to cheat funds. 

You'd love Blasterman4ever then, known now as The Blast. Damn that dude is funny!

 

Ban or wipes, that's the risk. But criminal charges is a bit strong IMHO. Blimey!

Edited May 10, 2020 by Lonely-Martin
Autospell fail

[Halal Cyborg]

9 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

To be revealed one day in the DLC speculation thread I'd imagine.

Not just grinders, but casual play these days too. I've only been on a couple of hours and made $2m+ from this casino heist and a few contact missions, lol.

Made 7m today and have filled all mc businesses on both characters ready to sell later lol

[Xiled]

24 minutes ago, JackCarter said:

This is a multi-billion dollar global media entity. Regardless of consumption, it left the 'just a game' category within mere hours of release.

 

Personally, I think criminal charges should be pushed on everyone involved with trying to cheat funds. 

 

 

More so now than ever before. You gotta be a legitimate scumbag to undermine the company for funds when they're trying to run a fundraiser campaign based on those exact funds. 

Oh no poor take-2 now they can only afford 9 yachts instead of 10. 

Mind you they are giving no money of their own,  they are giving away a tiny 5% of the money that people have given them for the silly cards. It's a pr stunt a lot of companies and people do it. 

 

Oh no people cheating In a 6.5 year old game commonly known for its massive cheating problem. Send the "cheaters" to Alcatraz for harming poor defenseless take-2 who care only about money. 

[Joe Biden]

32 minutes ago, JackCarter said:

This is a multi-billion dollar global media entity. Regardless of consumption, it left the 'just a game' category within mere hours of release.

 

Personally, I think criminal charges should be pushed on everyone involved with trying to cheat funds. 

 

 

More so now than ever before. You gotta be a legitimate scumbag to undermine the company for funds when they're trying to run a fundraiser campaign based on those exact funds. 

You aren't giving rockstar any money when you grind for your stuff instead of buying it with shark cards. You aren't any better than cheaters in this regard.

[Lonely-Martin]

4 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

Made 7m today and have filled all mc businesses on both characters ready to sell later lol

Yeah, for those set up well, it can be easy, especially if a good 2x week comes by. 

 

But I do understand that businesses and such aren't for all. I really hate how R* added nagging calls/text to grind people down into buying stuff they may not want and that it can encourage those wanting to just mess about into finding alternative ways to shut the game up. Some players like solo play for example and buying a heisting property is just wasting time/money to stop the game insisting they should buy those things. 

 

The whole game is messed up, and along with R* not doing enough to halt many exploits that can affect others over the years is troublesome too. I don't care about the money side of those issues, but they are a sign of how relaxed R* have been and those seeking money exploits often see other one's listed when on that other site which many think 'huh, ok' and the issues just keep growing. It's so warped out there in many ways, and even R* do their part by doing things like making contact missions only pay more if we hang about and take longer on jobs rather than reward efficiency too.

[Halal Cyborg]

32 minutes ago, Gorn Lord said:

These people are going to grief you no matter how much money they have, not sure why you don't see that in your logic. How many times has R* given away the Buzzard for free, which has the same lock on missiles that will destroy your sale? It's not like there aren't already day one vehicles scattered across the map to use that will blow you up for free. There are no rules in this game. Just because you feel achievement from the hours you put into making money and have "earned your money and portfolio" doesn't mean you are playing the game any more than someone who just wants to walk around and look at grass.

Nobody in a buzzard ever attacks me and as you might have gathered I play a lot...they’re either in one of two vehicles and neither of them is any longer a jet 

3 minutes ago, extremely stable genius said:

You aren't giving rockstar any money when you grind for your stuff instead of buying it with shark cards. You aren't any better than cheaters in this regard.

There are two legitimate options...earn the money in game or spend earned money in real life...these are the two options

[SummerFreeze]

34 minutes ago, GTAMamba said:

I would say 90 percent of griefers glitched their money, glitchers are also the reason the prices are so high for each DLC. A majority become bored with the game so they spend their time messing with other people. (Especially people doing sales)

If they had to actually earn their money like the rest of us I guarantee griefing would be much less common.

 

Most of all it waters down the game for many of us on this board who took the time to actually play the game as intended, as like I said earlier they have the same cars, planes, items ect.. that I grinded my ass off for.

Price inflation is inherent to any MMO, whether there's a cheating problem or not. I think money glitching is more comparable to online piracy, meaning glitchers wouldn't play GTA if they couldn't glitch money.

 

However, I agree that griefers tend to not care about money for various reasons. But there are always exceptions, like people who grief public lobbies but grind in private lobbies. Plenty of money glitchers who don't grief also exist.

 

Like I said I'm a retired grinder but I actually enjoyed the grind. When I play a game I always aim to understand the system and find the best strategies -- legitimately of course, else it wouldn't be a challenge. I was thrilled when I managed to do 4 bike sales in ~12 minutes with the Bombushka. But it also gets boring after a while.

 

Anyway, my main point is that I have no hard feelings towards money glitchers or modders, that they can buy all the stuff I "worked hard for", as long as they don't ruin the fun of others.

 

12 minutes ago, Quinn_flower said:

Hey China doesnt play they actually arrest people for cheating.

[citation needed]

[kenmy13999]

7 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

 

There are two legitimate options...earn the money in game or spend earned money in real life...these are the two options

The first option doesn't give R* any more money than the glitchers do regarding 'undermining the company for funds when they're trying to run a fundraiser campaign based on those exact funds' 

[Halal Cyborg]

1 minute ago, kenmy13999 said:

The first option doesn't give R* any more money than the glitchers do regarding 'undermining the company for funds when they're trying to run a fundraiser campaign based on those exact funds' 

I contribute to the aspirations of lazy people who will buy a shark card...

[Crossland]

2 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I contribute to the aspirations of lazy people who will buy a shark card...

You can’t call people “lazy” because they buy shark cards ! 😂 There could be whole hosts of reasons why people buy shark cards instead of grinding 

[Halal Cyborg]

Just now, Crossland said:

You can’t call people “lazy” because they buy shark cards ! 😂 There could be whole hosts of reasons why people buy shark cards instead of grinding 

You’re right I was being harsh...impatient is probably a better word.

 

Of course there are people with more money than sense and it’s their money at the end of the day.

 

Isnt there a limit on how much in game currency you can buy?

[Crossland]

Just now, Halal Cyborg said:

You’re right I was being harsh...impatient is probably a better word.

 

Of course there are people with more money than sense and it’s their money at the end of the day.

 

Isnt there a limit on how much in game currency you can buy?

Lol,nope no limit that I know of mate 

[kenmy13999]

13 minutes ago, Halal Cyborg said:

I contribute to the aspirations of lazy people who will buy a shark card...

So does the glitchers.. For all you know people in game might think you're glitching if they see the things you own 😊

[GTAMamba]

22 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

 glitchers wouldn't play GTA if they couldn't glitch money.

 

 

I don't agree with this, sure plenty of people online say that but what are they gonna replace it with? There is literally no other game like it, that's why it's 2020 and there's still thousands upon thousands of new players.

 

I actually think Rockstar is one of the few game companies that can get away with these big punishments, because they have no direct competition. It's one of the main reasons why there still isn't a GTA6.

 

Even if it were true who cares? Like I said if they are THAT lazy then they can go play Fortnite or whatever. The majority of them don't bring anything to the game except toxicity anyway.

7 minutes ago, kenmy13999 said:

 For all you know people in game might think you're glitching if they see the things you own 😊

And who's fault is that?