scrapped and cancelled ideas

[TenAte108]

can we guys discuss cancelled and scrapped planned ideas for GTA san andreas, like discontinued plans for features in the game, stuff and characters removed from the game completely with no trace...etc

 

ideas that maybe were later reused in future GTA games.

 

please guys, put them in numeric order in a list like form.

 

 

here is my list:

 

*Big smoke's crack palace was supposed to be your safe house after end of the line

*the game had the ability to switch between three characters like GTA V

*tommy vercetti was supposed to be in salvatore's role

*liberty city was a complete map that you could travel to

*GTA san andreas DLC system was going to be made

[MyNameIsNotImportantBro]

On 5/9/2020 at 12:47 AM, TenAte108 said:

tommy vercetti was supposed to be in salvatore's role

What?who told you that?

[cerdopalo]

you could recruit aztecas

[NewGuybj]

On 5/8/2020 at 11:47 PM, TenAte108 said:

can we guys discuss cancelled and scrapped planned ideas for GTA san andreas, like discontinued plans for features in the game, stuff and characters removed from the game completely with no trace...etc

 

ideas that maybe were later reused in future GTA games.

 

please guys, put them in numeric order in a list like form.

 

 

here is my list:

 

*Big smoke's crack palace was supposed to be your safe house after end of the line

*the game had the ability to switch between three characters like GTA V

*tommy vercetti was supposed to be in salvatore's role

*liberty city was a complete map that you could travel to

*GTA san andreas DLC system was going to be made

 few fixes: Tommy only had a small role.

Not whole lc map, but just Portland.

[Keegan01]

Apparently in San Andreas there were gonna be around 100 or so weapons?

 

I seriously doubt this as the PS2 hardware would literally explode when trying to handle it along with the massive size of vehicles,aircraft,boats and pedestrians.

 

Most of these weapons include the PSG-1,MP5K,possibly the Glock-18,the bat with nails,etc.

[TenAte108]

On 5/9/2020 at 11:32 PM, OmarMohammed said:

What?who told you that?

LOL, all GTA veterans do

On 7/9/2020 at 10:21 AM, cerdopalo said:

you could recruit aztecas

really?

On 7/9/2020 at 5:23 PM, NewGuybj said:

 few fixes: Tommy only had a small role.

Not whole lc map, but just Portland.

they were going to use the expansion or DLC system to add more adventures to GTA san andreas by adding vice city and LC

On 7/13/2020 at 4:02 PM, Keegan01 said:

Apparently in San Andreas there were gonna be around 100 or so weapons?

 

I seriously doubt this as the PS2 hardware would literally explode when trying to handle it along with the massive size of vehicles,aircraft,boats and pedestrians.

 

Most of these weapons include the PSG-1,MP5K,possibly the Glock-18,the bat with nails,etc.

oh, so some of the weapons were left off inside game files but were not later usd LOL?

[cerdopalo]

2 minutes ago, TenAte108 said:

really?

yes https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Beta_Releases_in_GTA_San_Andreas

[TenAte108]

Just now, cerdopalo said:

yes https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Beta_Releases_in_GTA_San_Andreas

damn

[Keegan01]

4 hours ago, TenAte108 said:

LOL, all GTA veterans do

really?

they were going to use the expansion or DLC system to add more adventures to GTA san andreas by adding vice city and LC

oh, so some of the weapons were left off inside game files but were not later usd LOL?

No,I just said what I heard.I never mentioned they were in the game files.I mentioned a rumor.

[cerdopalo]

5 hours ago, TenAte108 said:

damn

ok

[universetwisters]

On 5/8/2020 at 4:47 PM, TenAte108 said:

 

 

*Big smoke's crack palace was supposed to be your safe house after end of the line

*the game had the ability to switch between three characters like GTA V

*tommy vercetti was supposed to be in salvatore's role

*liberty city was a complete map that you could travel to

*GTA san andreas DLC system was going to be made

 

Do you have a source for literally any of these or are you pulling them out of your ass

[eyeballs]

Did you know in beta san andreas the grove street families were actually going to wear orange

[5YearsOnEastCoast]

There were at least 7 cut missions:

1. Impounded (given by Cesar)

2. Holed Up (given by Cesar)

3. "Original" Doberman (given by Tenpenny)

4. Tanked Up (given by Zero)

5. Roadside Assistance (given by Cesar)

6.The Truth is Out There (given by The Truth)

7. All-Terrain Take Down (given by Sweet)

 

For 5 of these missions we know something, but 2  missions(Holed Up and Roadside Assistance), nothing is virtually know about them.

 

[cerdopalo]

17 hours ago, 5YearsOnEastCoast said:

There were at least 7 cut missions:

1. Impounded (given by Cesar)

2. Holed Up (given by Cesar)

3. "Original" Doberman (given by Tenpenny)

4. Tanked Up (given by Zero)

5. Roadside Assistance (given by Cesar)

6.The Truth is Out There (given by The Truth)

7. All-Terrain Take Down (given by Sweet)

 

For 5 of these missions we know something, but 2  missions(Holed Up and Roadside Assistance), nothing is virtually know about them.

 

how do you know taht holed up is giver by cesar ??????????????????????????????^?????????????????????????

[Senor DeekHead]

On 7/16/2020 at 10:07 PM, eyeballs said:

Did you know in beta san andreas the grove street families were actually going to wear orange

just because it was called orange grove, didnt mean they wore orange. infact, it was seen as more darker colors.

sometime in development of san andreas there was a early rave station

[GTA-Biker]

Some of the stuff I've heard of:

-Grove Street Families was originally called Orange Grove Families

-there were supposed to be 10 gangs in game,including the Italian mob, the Russian mob and a biker gang,but they ended up being unused,with Italians and Russians only appearing in missions,and bikers being reprogrammed as two civilians and a street criminal

-there's an unused drug dealer NPC who only appears in one cutscene,he was a Latino man in sunglasses, gray tank top and black pants

-there was a SWAT van that was supposed to appear in one of the cut missions

[cerdopalo]

9 hours ago, GTA-Biker said:

Some of the stuff I've heard of:

-Grove Street Families was originally called Orange Grove Families

-there were supposed to be 10 gangs in game,including the Italian mob, the Russian mob and a biker gang,but they ended up being unused,with Italians and Russians only appearing in missions,and bikers being reprogrammed as two civilians and a street criminal

-there's an unused drug dealer NPC who only appears in one cutscene,he was a Latino man in sunglasses, gray tank top and black pants

-there was a SWAT van that was supposed to appear in one of the cut missions

aztecas were friendly to cj

[cerdopalo]

this is all i know

you could recruit aztecas and they were friendly to cj

grove street was not green and had another color (similar to blue) and was called ogf (orange grove families)

in saint mark bistro you could go to portland not only saint mark as interior and chase forelli

ryder big smoke sweet and kendl dressed in different

you could switch protagonist (maybe cj sweet cesar i tink or cj ryder cesar)

you could hang out with characters like cesar (i tink)

cj was dressed different

pulaski had black hair

there were cut missions (7)

big bear had big role

ryder dont betray grove street (maybe)

ballas was called the flats

in mission where you kill jizzy cj had desert eagle not silenced pistol

map was different

there were more weapon

grove street member had 2-3 more peds/models

you could gang war against aztecas triads da nang boys san fierro rifa

you could hang out with big bear (probably because some of his audio had see you later cj and he insult ballas and vagos so its probably)

cj (the player) could use drugs in beta

there was a safe house in mulholland that was different and had a different interior

you could enter the garage of doherty without going in blue hell

homies had acess to cj house and you could see peds entering and leaving shops

homies could enter burger shot and other food shop

there were san fierro rifa tags in san fierro (the image was in gta sa files but the locations of the tags is unknown)

vagos ballas and aztecas dressed different

you could use skateboard

og loc house had same model as big smoke house (this is confirmed by his interior)

las venturas was named las venturra (probably)

there was the airtrain of gta 3 aand gta vice city 

there were car washes

you could ride san fierro tram

this is what i know

sorry for my bad english but im italian

hope i helped you

[TenAte108]

On 7/15/2020 at 2:49 PM, Keegan01 said:

No,I just said what I heard.I never mentioned they were in the game files.I mentioned a rumor.

i know i know it is true dont worry

On 7/17/2020 at 7:07 AM, eyeballs said:

Did you know in beta san andreas the grove street families were actually going to wear orange

i heard in GTA san andreas gang war before "orange grove, fool"

On 7/24/2020 at 5:08 PM, cerdopalo said:

how do you know taht holed up is giver by cesar ??????????????????????????????^?????????????????????????

lol what?

17 hours ago, rodie beta researcher said:

just because it was called orange grove, didnt mean they wore orange. infact, it was seen as more darker colors.

sometime in development of san andreas there was a early rave station

actually no, they wore orange, haven't you wondered why GTA sa on ps2 was having an orange atmosphere at grove street

16 hours ago, GTA-Biker said:

Some of the stuff I've heard of:

-Grove Street Families was originally called Orange Grove Families

-there were supposed to be 10 gangs in game,including the Italian mob, the Russian mob and a biker gang,but they ended up being unused,with Italians and Russians only appearing in missions,and bikers being reprogrammed as two civilians and a street criminal

-there's an unused drug dealer NPC who only appears in one cutscene,he was a Latino man in sunglasses, gray tank top and black pants

-there was a SWAT van that was supposed to appear in one of the cut missions

number 4----> you mean fbi truck

6 hours ago, cerdopalo said:

aztecas were friendly to cj

they are supposed to be like this

 

after tagging up turf, aztecas are hostile

after mission cesar vialpando, neutral behavior

after the riot, 100% friendly to CJ and also can be mixed up with grove street members as recruits (yes you could recruit them in beta)

 

but at the final cut, a bug happened and aztecas remain hostile to CJ even after End of the line, and this is a good thing for me because if you wiped out ballas and vagos off los santos map there will be no other hostile gang except for aztecas, so you can have fun with gunfights with them XD

[TenAte108]

5 hours ago, cerdopalo said:

this is all i know

you could recruit aztecas and they were friendly to cj

grove street was not green and had another color (similar to blue) and was called ogf (orange grove families)

in saint mark bistro you could go to portland not only saint mark as interior and chase forelli

ryder big smoke sweet and kendl dressed in different

you could switch protagonist (maybe cj sweet cesar i tink or cj ryder cesar)

you could hang out with characters like cesar (i tink)

cj was dressed different

pulaski had black hair

there were cut missions (7)

big bear had big role

ryder dont betray grove street (maybe)

ballas was called the flats

in mission where you kill jizzy cj had desert eagle not silenced pistol

map was different

there were more weapon

grove street member had 2-3 more peds/models

you could gang war against aztecas triads da nang boys san fierro rifa

you could hang out with big bear (probably because some of his audio had see you later cj and he insult ballas and vagos so its probably)

cj (the player) could use drugs in beta

there was a safe house in mulholland that was different and had a different interior

you could enter the garage of doherty without going in blue hell

homies had acess to cj house and you could see peds entering and leaving shops

homies could enter burger shot and other food shop

there were san fierro rifa tags in san fierro (the image was in gta sa files but the locations of the tags is unknown)

vagos ballas and aztecas dressed different

you could use skateboard

og loc house had same model as big smoke house (this is confirmed by his interior)

las venturas was named las venturra (probably)

there was the airtrain of gta 3 aand gta vice city 

there were car washes

you could ride san fierro tram

this is what i know

sorry for my bad english but im italian

hope i helped you

actually your engish is not that bad bro, you uncovered 50% of the cut content and even somethings i didn't even know, thats awesome, you are amazing GTA fan XD XD XD

[GTA-Biker]

@TenAte108 Yeah,the FBI truck

[Senor DeekHead]

1 hour ago, TenAte108 said:

actually no, they wore orange, haven't you wondered why GTA sa on ps2 was having an orange atmosphere at grove street

The orange atmosphere was something that was seen all around the city. they never wore orange, orange grove was the beta name for the gang.

[cerdopalo]

15 hours ago, TenAte108 said:

actually your engish is not that bad bro, you uncovered 50% of the cut content and even somethings i didn't even know, thats awesome, you are amazing GTA fan XD XD XD

ok ty

14 hours ago, rodie beta researcher said:

The orange atmosphere was something that was seen all around the city. they never wore orange, orange grove was the beta name for the gang.

ornage atmosphere was to give ls feeling

[Senor DeekHead]

9 hours ago, cerdopalo said:

ok ty

ornage atmosphere was to give ls feeling

it was also seen all around the state when it became noon. (as i said, only on the ps2 version)

[universetwisters]

18 minutes ago, rodie beta researcher said:

it was also seen all around the state when it became noon. (as i said, only on the ps2 version)

 

idk man I dont remember it in places like San Fierro and Angel Pine 

[Senor DeekHead]

7 hours ago, universetwisters said:

 

idk man I dont remember it in places like San Fierro and Angel Pine 

it was all around the state, but when it was super sunny or heatwaves

[Big_Smiley]

On 7/25/2020 at 9:10 AM, TenAte108 said:

actually no, they wore orange, haven't you wondered why GTA sa on ps2 was having an orange atmosphere at grove street

The orange skies have nothing do with Gsf. That was only used to hide PS2's crappy draw distance. The Best atmosphere imo because my nostalgia glasses have been on since 2004 

[universetwisters]

3 hours ago, rodie beta researcher said:

it was all around the state, but when it was super sunny or heatwaves

 

Are you sure tho cuz I spent like a month straight roleplaying in angel pine on the ps2 and I don’t remember a single orange sky

Edited July 27, 2020 by universetwisters

[cerdopalo]

15 hours ago, rodie beta researcher said:

it was also seen all around the state when it became noon. (as i said, only on the ps2 version)

yes i have it on my ps3 there is it is cool

[5YearsOnEastCoast]

On 7/24/2020 at 5:08 PM, cerdopalo said:

how do you know taht holed up is giver by cesar ??????????????????????????????^?????????????????????????

According to GTA wiki, this mission was originally given by Cesar and took place after another deleted mission "Impounded", but nothing more is know for this mission.