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Luisrockz

Kate McReary, GTA IV

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Why Kate never wants to have casual Sex with Niko Bellic? Why Kate never wants to marry Niko Bellic? Why Kate Never treats Niko as her lover?

She most likely friendzoned Niko. And even at the end of the game, although she tells Niko that she will be always there for Niko but at the end she leaves Niko. Does she never had any feelings for Niko? Then why didn't she rejected Niko at beginning?

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billiejoearmstrong8

If you listen to their conversations it's made quite clear that all the stuff Kate has seen growing up has made her quite shy and withdrawn, and she's never had a romantic relationship before and is wary of having one, especially with someone involved in crime like her brothers. I think she has a great affection for Niko and they have a close friendship, and she is thinking of taking the plunge and trying being in a romantic relationship with him in the future. She even says this on one of their later hangouts, that she doesn't feel ready to get with a man yet but if she did it would be with him. She just has reservations because she doesn't want to get pulled into a dangerous criminal life or have him die, so she wants to make sure he really is going to leave the criminal life for good like he says.

 

In one ending it's Niko going against her advice and dealing with Dimitri again that turns her off him. In the other well, she gets killed. I think if he'd really had the opportunity to walk away as he wanted there would've been a good chance for them to be together. In the revenge ending it sounds that way when they're travelling to the wedding, if everything hadn't gone wrong after that I think they'd have ended up together.

 

 

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Luisrockz
20 minutes ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

If you listen to their conversations it's made quite clear that all the stuff Kate has seen growing up has made her quite shy and withdrawn, and she's never had a romantic relationship before and is wary of having one, especially with someone involved in crime like her brothers. I think she has a great affection for Niko and they have a close friendship, and she is thinking of taking the plunge and trying being in a romantic relationship with him in the future. She even says this on one of their later hangouts, that she doesn't feel ready to get with a man yet but if she did it would be with him. She just has reservations because she doesn't want to get pulled into a dangerous criminal life or have him die, so she wants to make sure he really is going to leave the criminal life for good like he says.

 

In one ending it's Niko going against her advice and dealing with Dimitri again that turns her off him. In the other well, she gets killed. I think if he'd really had the opportunity to walk away as he wanted there would've been a good chance for them to be together. In the revenge ending it sounds that way when they're travelling to the wedding, if everything hadn't gone wrong after that I think they'd have ended up together.

 

 

But Niko listened to Kate in the Revenge ending, killed Dimitri, and when Roman was killed then also Niko killed Pegorino, and so all his criminal life ended after killing Dimitri and Pegorino. So What is the Reason for Kate to leave him alone? Kate could have stayed with Niko, and even she said she will always be there for Niko, but still she left him alone.

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billiejoearmstrong8
1 hour ago, Luisrockz said:

But Niko listened to Kate in the Revenge ending, killed Dimitri, and when Roman was killed then also Niko killed Pegorino, and so all his criminal life ended after killing Dimitri and Pegorino. So What is the Reason for Kate to leave him alone? Kate could have stayed with Niko, and even she said she will always be there for Niko, but still she left him alone.

In the Revenge ending Kate gets killed 😛. After Niko kills Dimitri she goes to the wedding with him and their conversation on the way there suggests they will get together in the near future. But unfortuntely she gets killed by Pegorino at the wedding.

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Algonquin Assassin

One of the things I appreciate about Kate is she's not like a lot of female characters in the series who tend to be way oversexualised. She has a sense of normality that makes her feel realistic and I think she's an interesting contrast to Niko. She's clearly not ready to go into a full on relationship with him, but as time goes on her feelings become stronger.

 

It's a classic tale of friends slowly morphing into lovers, but never quite getting there which makes it tragic for Niko atleast as she either dies or she refuses to speak to him again (if you choose Deal). 

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1 hour ago, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

In the Revenge ending Kate gets killed 😛. After Niko kills Dimitri she goes to the wedding with him and their conversation on the way there suggests they will get together in the near future. But unfortuntely she gets killed by Pegorino at the wedding.

Ok so on the Deal ending also Niko had to lose his Cousin Roman, it was huge loss for him, he killed Dimitri at last, which was end of his Criminal life, so after that Kate could have reunited with Niko, since Niko quitted his criminal affairs. So now What was stopping Kate, and what made Kate to leave Niko?

1 hour ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

One of the things I appreciate about Kate is she's not like a lot of female characters in the series who tend to be way oversexualised. She has a sense of normality that makes her feel realistic and I think she's an interesting contrast to Niko. She's clearly not ready to go into a full on relationship with him, but as time goes on her feelings become stronger.

 

It's a classic tale of friends slowly morphing into lovers, but never quite getting there which makes it tragic for Niko atleast as she either dies or she refuses to speak to him again (if you choose Deal). 

As a partner Niko had all the qualities.  He was handsome , tall, attractive ,caring, responsible, friendly, sociable so every woman can easily get attracted to Niko. I don't know how Kate Resisted herself from Niko, 

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billiejoearmstrong8
38 minutes ago, Luisrockz said:

Ok so on the Deal ending also Niko had to lose his Cousin Roman, it was huge loss for him, he killed Dimitri at last, which was end of his Criminal life, so after that Kate could have reunited with Niko, since Niko quitted his criminal affairs. So now What was stopping Kate, and what made Kate to leave Niko?

As a partner Niko had all the qualities.  He was handsome , tall, attractive ,caring, responsible, friendly, sociable so every woman can easily get attracted to Niko. I don't know how Kate Resisted herself from Niko, 

After Roman died it was more Niko who couldn't deal with getting into a relationship I think, it messed him up big time. This was their final phone conversation after Roman died and he killed Dimitri:

 

Kate: Niko, I heard about your cousin. Niko, I am so sorry.
Niko: So am I.
Kate: If you want to talk about, if you want anything, Niko. If you just want company. Call me.
Niko: I want Roman back.
Kate: Don't let this ruin you, Niko. Don't let this make you even more insular and angry. Please, call me and we can do something.
Niko: I might do that, there are more important things to be doing now though.

 

....and then he never calls her again. So I think if Niko had been into it they still could've at least been friends or possibly got together. But he probably didn't want to get close to someone again worrying that he'd end up getting her hurt. Very tragic!

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Luisrockz
14 hours ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

One of the things I appreciate about Kate is she's not like a lot of female characters in the series who tend to be way oversexualised. She has a sense of normality that makes her feel realistic and I think she's an interesting contrast to Niko. She's clearly not ready to go into a full on relationship with him, but as time goes on her feelings become stronger.

 

It's a classic tale of friends slowly morphing into lovers, but never quite getting there which makes it tragic for Niko atleast as she either dies or she refuses to speak to him again (if you choose Deal). 

As a partner Niko had all the qualities.  He was handsome , tall, attractive ,caring, responsible, friendly, sociable so every woman can easily get attracted to Niko. I don't know how Kate Resisted herself from Niko, 

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47 minutes ago, Luisrockz said:

As a partner Niko had all the qualities.  He was handsome , tall, attractive ,caring, responsible, friendly, sociable so every woman can easily get attracted to Niko. I don't know how Kate Resisted herself from Niko, 

It sounds like you're the one with the crush on Niko there, buddy.

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El Penguin Bobo

what's up with this guy making threads about beating and f*cking women?

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Luisrockz
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2 hours ago, KGBeast said:

It sounds like you're the one with the crush on Niko there, buddy.

Can you deny that Niko is attractive?

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Jeansowaty
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I always laugh my ass off when people just go with the classic "I hate Kate because she doesn't put out." Case to case, letter to letter. Jesus Christ, what's up with all those people wanting sex in video games, are they too lazy to find someone in real life? I'm not too keen on Kate mostly because she's judging Niko all the time and calling him out for being a hypocrite and a killer yet she herself is pretty damn messed up and requires help. Though I have to admit, I haven't looked at the Deal ending from the side @billiejoearmstrong8 pointed out. Very tragic indeed! I don't think it's very stupid to imply that Niko might have even killed himself or something along those lines in the Deal ending due to all the guilt suffocating him.

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I don't think it's very stupid to imply that Niko might have even killed himself or something along those lines in the Deal ending due to all the guilt suffocating him.

 

Hmm... In my opinion both Deal and Revenge endings imply that Niko would stop with his criminal life, eventually.

 

Why Kate never wants to have casual Sex with Niko Bellic?

 

Well... why would she? I mean... come on.

 


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1 hour ago, Jeansowaty said:

I always laugh my ass off when people just go with the classic "I hate Kate because she doesn't put out." Case to case, letter to letter. Jesus Christ, what's up with all those people wanting sex in video games, are they too lazy to find someone in real life? I'm not too keen on Kate mostly because she's judging Niko all the time and calling him out for being a hypocrite and a killer yet she herself is pretty damn messed up and requires help. Though I have to admit, I haven't looked at the Deal ending from the side @billiejoearmstrong8 pointed out. Very tragic indeed! I don't think it's very stupid to imply that Niko might have even killed himself or something along those lines in the Deal ending due to all the guilt suffocating him.

Don't you feel that Niko is very attractive to get more women than shown in game?

1 minute ago, Americana said:

 

 

 

Hmm... In my opinion both endings of Grand Theft Auto IV imply that Niko will stop with crime, eventually.

 

 


But don't you think that Niko is quite attractive enough to make Kate fall for him.

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Yeah, well... it doesn't mean they are going to have sex immediately.

 

I'm sure Kate would wait, but she would eventually do it. That would require some time, though.

 


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billiejoearmstrong8
3 hours ago, Jeansowaty said:

I always laugh my ass off when people just go with the classic "I hate Kate because she doesn't put out." Case to case, letter to letter. Jesus Christ, what's up with all those people wanting sex in video games, are they too lazy to find someone in real life? I'm not too keen on Kate mostly because she's judging Niko all the time and calling him out for being a hypocrite and a killer yet she herself is pretty damn messed up and requires help. Though I have to admit, I haven't looked at the Deal ending from the side @billiejoearmstrong8 pointed out. Very tragic indeed! I don't think it's very stupid to imply that Niko might have even killed himself or something along those lines in the Deal ending due to all the guilt suffocating him.

I agree, I never warmed to her much because I think she's a little too harsh with the judging, and then when she gets drunk you see she has just about as many issues herself. But I think she's an interesting layered character and her conversations with Niko are insightful. The fact we don't see Niko walk into her house and hear a couple of implied sex lines isn't really a concern :lol:

 

1 hour ago, Luisrockz said:

Don't you feel that Niko is very attractive to get more women than shown in game?

But don't you think that Niko is quite attractive enough to make Kate fall for him.

Yeah he's hot and that's why the women from the dating website love him! He could surely attract plenty of women to hook up with or date casually if he wanted. But looking for a serious relationship there's more to it than just looks and charisma, being a wanted criminal and killer who is also dealing with severe war trauma is a bit of a drawback.

 

She does get close to falling for him, they have a close friendship and she says if and when she's ready for a romanitic relationship with anyone it would be with him. There's just other factors that hold both of them back from getting into a romantic relationship (Kate being shy and never having been in a relationship before, her concern that he's a criminal and she doesn't want to be a part of a criminal lifestyle, and then either her getting killed or Roman getting killed causing Niko to not be interested in a relationship any time soon).

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Cutter De Blanc
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Am I the only one who has had Kate call me up for dates a couple times after she was dead,  and then eventually break up with me? It was weird, like Niko lost his mind. The first time she called me from the grave, showed up as an Unknown Caller, I answered and she was like, "Niko, I thought you were dead!":blink:

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Algonquin Assassin
1 hour ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Am I the only one who has had Kate call me up for dates a couple times after she was dead,  and then eventually break up with me? It was weird, like Niko lost his mind. The first time she called me from the grave, showed up as an Unknown Caller, I answered and she was like, "Niko, I thought you were dead!":blink:

That seems to be a common glitch, but funnily enough never one I've experienced myself. It's still creepy though. Like The Ring or something lol.

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Maxxeine
On 5/7/2020 at 5:44 AM, Algonquin Assassin said:

One of the things I appreciate about Kate is she's not like a lot of female characters in the series who tend to be way oversexualised. She has a sense of normality that makes her feel realistic and I think she's an interesting contrast to Niko.

 

I agree. Their differences are also what made their relationship interesting and uncertain at the same time. You want them to be happy together. Her attitude towards dating and cautiousness towards Niko also makes sense if you grew up in a catholic household analogous to hers. I appreciate the writers for including characters like Kate. She's just a normal young woman, which makes her death all the more tragic because she has no involvement in the life of crime that Niko or her family had. It's grounded characters like her and the "stranger" characters with everyday problems that are why I appreciate IV so much. Everything is, for the most part, believable and possible, with real drama and actual consequences. It's just something I haven't seen in any of the other GTAs, and is why IV will always be my favorite.

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Kate had seen the men in her family leave for extended periods of time, lash out, go to jail, fight and scream and disappear to Ireland or Algonquin. She was the most normal of the bunch, but I think she struggled with dating a regular civilian type dude, Packie would probably scare him away, either on purpose or accidentally. Niko was a good fit for her because they were both at the same point in their lives, at the end of their run. Kate was losing brothers to jail or death, her mother was getting old, Packie was soon heading out West. Niko was ending the decade long manhunt and wanted to settle down somewhere. 

 

Deal is still the saddest ending though lol.

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Limefong

Sorta agreed. 

Still, deal is the worst ending lol

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Eugene H. Krabs
On 5/7/2020 at 9:28 AM, billiejoearmstrong8 said:

....and then he never calls her again. So I think if Niko had been into it they still could've at least been friends or possibly got together. But he probably didn't want to get close to someone again worrying that he'd end up getting her hurt.

Funny you mention that because after 30 in-game days (I think), she dumps him for that exact reason.

 

 

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Cutter De Blanc
2 hours ago, Eugene H. Krabs said:

Funny you mention that because after 30 in-game days (I think), she dumps him for that exact reason.

 

 

This is what happened when she broke up with me after she died

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santosvagos

Kate is my favorite GF in the game . The conversation between her and Niko is worth listening . 

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