Which horse?

[STNeish]

So, a quick update, as I've done the same encounter now on two different horses.

The encounter is the resupply mission where you investigate a crashed wagon being hounded by three wolves.  In both cases, they were on the beach south of Flatneck Station.

 

My T1 Cirollo (Athena), who stood her ground against a Grizzly, also stood her ground against the wolves.  She didn't much like their presence, but she didn't throw me before I could finish them off.

 

My T1 Kladruber (Silver), stood her ground as well, but WOULD NOT MOVE, no matter how much I pushed the button to accelerate.  She did turn in place just enough to throw off my aim, and so after a few seconds, reared up and dumped me on the ground.  Perhaps if she had kept moving it would have been fine, but when I turned to get the wolves behind me, she just stopped in place and refused to move again.

 

So, I'm inclined to keep going with the Cirollo, but the issue SHE has is that she dies if anything sneezes in her direction.  The Kladruber is TOUGH, and that's the tier 1 version.  I wonder if higer tier Cirollos, which would have better health, would be as brave?

[Direwrath]

7 hours ago, STNeish said:

So, a quick update, as I've done the same encounter now on two different horses.

The encounter is the resupply mission where you investigate a crashed wagon being hounded by three wolves.  In both cases, they were on the beach south of Flatneck Station.

 

My T1 Cirollo (Athena), who stood her ground against a Grizzly, also stood her ground against the wolves.  She didn't much like their presence, but she didn't throw me before I could finish them off.

 

My T1 Kladruber (Silver), stood her ground as well, but WOULD NOT MOVE, no matter how much I pushed the button to accelerate.  She did turn in place just enough to throw off my aim, and so after a few seconds, reared up and dumped me on the ground.  Perhaps if she had kept moving it would have been fine, but when I turned to get the wolves behind me, she just stopped in place and refused to move again.

 

So, I'm inclined to keep going with the Cirollo, but the issue SHE has is that she dies if anything sneezes in her direction.  The Kladruber is TOUGH, and that's the tier 1 version.  I wonder if higer tier Cirollos, which would have better health, would be as brave?

These are the stats of my fully bonded tier 2 sorrel paint Criollo. I haven't had much of a problem with her dying or losing health, actually she's pretty sound in all of the stats in my opinion.

[Buddy Hightower]

On 5/6/2020 at 7:36 PM, STNeish said:

So, I've been playing for about a month, and I'm posting here for the first time, so GREETINGS!

 

I have a question, perhaps someone can enlighten me.  I have the Red Chestnut Arabian horse.  It was the best horse I could get at the time, and there was no competition.  However, I'm finding myself a bit frustrated with the horse, as it seems to get spooked if a leaf blows across the road.  I can't count the number of times I've been dumped on the ground so a cougar or pack of wolves can jump on me (they appear, the horse STOPS despite my pressing the accelerate button, then rears up and throws me on the ground).  I suppose there's logic in that last, the horse doesn't need to outrun the predators, just ME.

 

So, I now have sufficient funds to get a better horse, but I'm not sure which to go with.  I'd LIKE something that's fast (since chasing pronghorns is hard on anything less than the Arabian, I think they all have rocket assist), but that isn't going to throw me on the ground every time the wind changes.

 

I have access to the Kladruber, so I've been considering that... but I'm not sure.  I'll also miss the red chestnut steed, she's SO beautiful with that metallic red hair.  So... any suggestions?

Once I got my ass on the level 20 BH horse, I haven't even thought about another one.

[Direwrath]

2 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

Once I got my ass on the level 20 BH horse, I haven't even thought about another one.

I think they are cute, kinda not my type due to it's stout, chunky confirmation but they are decent horses. Mine is super fast for having such short little legs, his stamina is strong, and he isn't scared of anything. Plus, he's one of the only horses that looks good with that black armored head shaffron/mask with the horn on it. 

[Krommer]

I've tried all the horses, they are all cowards. I actually did two of the trader ones, one was max cowardly at full like and the other about 2/3.

Tried the bounty hunter one, figuring it looked buff, but it was also 2/3 whatever cowardly.

 

So I settled on the moonshiner one. It is a cutie. It was about this time I figured out the secret, I press the "pat" stick on the Xbox One when wolves are approaching;

the horse might do that thing where its rear starts to turn and it slows a bit, but hitting "pat" again keeps it from ever throwing me. Then I head shot all 3 wolves while they are running around me.

 

I wish I'd known about that "pat" thing sooner, it was a forum poster here who mentioned it (after I'd already bought all the horses, going nuts... )

 

I LOVE the wolves at the wagon, who killed the drivers. Those I start to kill at great distance, with the bolt rifle. Then the two others start coming over, headshot headshot.

USUALLY they are PERFECT (always, if you make a good head shot kill); these don't say it when you stand by them, though. When you skin them, or toss them in the wagon, it will say perfect if they are.

So I was a bit miffed, last night, when I got that one. I got excited, going over to where they were. Another player was there, having killed my wolves =( So I let it go, as he was skinning them, did a hat tipping emote since it was "3 emotes on players" daily, then picked up my supplies and rode off.

 

Another night, cripps/the camp was doing that thing where it kept making me resupply over and over. It also kept being the wolf/wagon one So I kept getting 3 perfect wolves, calling my wagon, tossing them in, calling the horse again and picking up the supplies. Then I'd get back to camp, drop the supplies/turn in, call the wagon and turn in 3 perfect wolves. Then cripps would still be wanting me to do a supply run, then it would be the wolves one again... That resources bar got totally full!   I hate how wolves in the wagon don't count for "predator carcass or skinned" daily; you have to skin them for their skin to count from the wagon (the whole carcass doesn't count for that, if in the wagon, so if that daily was up I'd skin them.)

 

You know it is the wolf one if he says something like "some traders never came back, you should go out and see what happened to them..." often, he'll add "be careful" at the end.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Krommer

[STNeish]

I've tried killing the wolves at a distance, but they're invulnerable until you get close to them... at least, in my experience.

[Hiply]

21 hours ago, Buddy Hightower said:

Once I got my ass on the level 20 BH horse, I haven't even thought about another one.

 

18 hours ago, Direwrath said:

I think they are cute, kinda not my type due to it's stout, chunky confirmation but they are decent horses. Mine is super fast for having such short little legs, his stamina is strong, and he isn't scared of anything. Plus, he's one of the only horses that looks good with that black armored head shaffron/mask with the horn on it. 

I don't think I'll ever have first hand experience with the Bretons since I'm not down with the whole "bringing back a bounty dead, when the poster clearly lists dead as the first option, results in far less experience" thing and am not likely to ever progress that role.

On the other hand I could not be much happier than I am with Bob, my 'shiner R20 Norfolk Roadster, so I'm not fussed about it.

[Direwrath]

7 hours ago, STNeish said:

I've tried killing the wolves at a distance, but they're invulnerable until you get close to them... at least, in my experience.

My best advice when it come to wolves is to allow the horse to sprint a ways a distance, turn him/her sideways so it can see where the wolves are but do not make it face them, and fire at the first one as they come towards you. Turn your horse and ride him/her a few more feet and fire again, but try not to fire the gun towards the head of the horse because the noise will startle it even more and also don't completely stop the horse just keep it moving but steady. I tend to get good shots of them with my bolt action from a distance but you gotta keep that horse moving and if the wolf comes in too close you spur your horse away. I love how the game has made the animals reactions nearly correct, the wolves are trying to surround the horse and the horse knows this, that is why it's best to keep them moving. Once a wolf makes it in front of the horse the horse's first reaction will be to rear up and defend with it's hooves, don't let them get in front of the horse or you will get thrown. Also watch your map, because one or two wolves behind you usually means you are running into the rest of the pack ahead and they will ambush you, this is where I will usually get thrown if I am on a skittish horse. The only horse I had that let the wolves nip at her hooves while we were attacked and didn't even rear and drop me was the high level brown varnish leopard appaloosa. If you don't mind small horses, and have the gold, that is a really sound horse to get. And pretty to boot, I just couldn't keep Weevil because she was so little and made my character look like a giant.

 

Learning to shoot from the saddle as the horse is moving in circles is a good thing. And keep hitting that calm button as often as you can. It takes time to figure out what works best with each horse, but once you can get good it really makes those rides in dangerous territory not as frustrating.

 

Cougars are much different to hunt, usually I only keep the horse around for clues as to it's location. Once the horse get's vocal and fidgety I quickly scan the area with eagle eye looking for where the cat is hiding and get the heck out of the saddle. At least this way I may not get thrown and can successfully target it while it comes to pounce. Unless I know exactly where it is, or course, then I just shoot it from the saddle because it no longer has the upper hand. Some horses are better at alerting you to dangers than others, my bay Turkoman is my big cat hunting horse. I will take him down by Braithwaites or Pleasance when I'm searching for that panther and he's never led me astray as to where that darn thing is hiding. Unfortunately though for most horses, if the cougar get's behind you and can make the distance, your horse is going to throw you. The horses in this game are really good at telling you about the hidden dangers, you just gotta learn their language a bit.

6 hours ago, Hiply said:

 

I don't think I'll ever have first hand experience with the Bretons since I'm not down with the whole "bringing back a bounty dead, when the poster clearly lists dead as the first option, results in far less experience" thing and am not likely to ever progress that role.

On the other hand I could not be much happier than I am with Bob, my 'shiner R20 Norfolk Roadster, so I'm not fussed about it.

I have three roadsters, the tier 3 paint, and bucksin, and the fleabitten grey. Those are really good horses, possibly some of the better ones imo. Gremlin is my favorite, she's the bay paint with the snip.

And I totally understand the bounty hunter thing, I've gone to going full board rush in and hogtie the bounty before anyone can react, then I'm left having to fight my way to safety to take the rest of the guys out before going back in for my bounty. If not those darn bounties flee, and they can make miles in no time. Hell, even with the fastest horse they can sometimes be impossible to catch. The difficulty is two fold when you only get to see their blip appear for a second every so often. The way I leveled up was by doing them with a posse, this way I could play reckless and my partners could help get me out of the mess I threw myself into. 

[Krommer]

On 5/24/2020 at 8:05 AM, STNeish said:

I've tried killing the wolves at a distance, but they're invulnerable until you get close to them... at least, in my experience.

 

Ah, I use something like the bolt rifle (High Velocity Ammo) but go to zoom mode (sniper) and hit the first one right in the front of the head; almost always dead and perfect.

 

Then I switch to non zoom and try to shoot the other two right in the head as they run to me, while pressing down on the left stick (Xbox One) to calm the horse I'm on.

 

I've found that works the best for me, for wolves, to be down in front of them directly.

Edited May 25, 2020 by Krommer

[STNeish]

Ya, same thing I use.  I love me my bolt action rifle, use it for almost everything.

 

I lined up the first wolf, square shot right in the head, it ignored it.  Emptied the clip, it ignored every shot.  SO, I got closer and closer and kept trying, and it ignored everything until I was in aggro range, at which point I was able to kill it.  Of course, the other two were already running up to me, so I had to unscope and pick them off as best I could.

[DentureDynamite]

^^ I love the look and feel of the bolt action--just wish it had the range and damage of the Rolling Block.

[Failed Again]

On 5/7/2020 at 12:48 PM, STNeish said:

My goal has been to have one sizable pure white horse, to match my Lone Ranger outfit (yeah, yeah, so sue me, I'm old), and then my regular horse for everything else I do.  I love the red chestnut arabian, it's so beautiful, but it's so skittish, and has repeatedly fed me to the wolves (literally).  As I said before, quick but willing to tolerate the presence of predators is really all I need.

 

I can't get the Nagodoches saddle, it's just so fugly.  For me, it's the collector saddle all the way (McKinley?  Something like that), though I'm uncertain just what effect it has.

I hated the look of the Naco at 1st, but I grew to love the Red and Black one..

[STNeish]

Well, I'm still trying to find a good horse that won't throw me.  I'd heard the Criollo and Kladruber would be brave, and I heard the warhorses were brave.

 

I started with the Dun Criollo.  It did ok at first, but had an unfortunate desire to try to run UP cliff faces, which would drop us both on the ground.  Moreover, it was pretty flimsy, getting killed as soon as anyone started shooting at me.  So, I went to the Kladruber. 

 

Kladruber is a TOUGH horse.  Not too bad for speed, and kind of distinctive.  Stood her ground pretty well most of the time... TOO well.  Most of the time a predator would charge and the horse would STOP refusing to move at all.  This meant the predator was right below, so close I couldn't aim DOWN far enough to shoot at it... so it would stay there a couple of seconds while the horse refused to move, then it would dump me and run off.

 

So, I'm now trying the Andalusian war horse.  Just the first tier one (why do all the higher tier horses look so awful, and the fantastic looking ones are all bottom tier?), and she's only encountered wolves so far.  She ALSO stopped and refused to move, eventually dumping me on the ground in front of wolves that were too close to shoot at.  She's only r2 bonding now though, so I'm going to give her some time.

[lszomb]

The worst investment I made in red dead online is "42 gold for black Arabian" I want to kill him everyday and now ride on bounty hunter role horse.....

[yeezy203]

6 hours ago, STNeish said:

Well, I'm still trying to find a good horse that won't throw me.  I'd heard the Criollo and Kladruber would be brave, and I heard the warhorses were brave.

 

I started with the Dun Criollo.  It did ok at first, but had an unfortunate desire to try to run UP cliff faces, which would drop us both on the ground.  Moreover, it was pretty flimsy, getting killed as soon as anyone started shooting at me.  So, I went to the Kladruber. 

 

Kladruber is a TOUGH horse.  Not too bad for speed, and kind of distinctive.  Stood her ground pretty well most of the time... TOO well.  Most of the time a predator would charge and the horse would STOP refusing to move at all.  This meant the predator was right below, so close I couldn't aim DOWN far enough to shoot at it... so it would stay there a couple of seconds while the horse refused to move, then it would dump me and run off.

 

So, I'm now trying the Andalusian war horse.  Just the first tier one (why do all the higher tier horses look so awful, and the fantastic looking ones are all bottom tier?), and she's only encountered wolves so far.  She ALSO stopped and refused to move, eventually dumping me on the ground in front of wolves that were too close to shoot at.  She's only r2 bonding now though, so I'm going to give her some time.

Criollos are among the most cowardly horses in the game. Great speed but not great for close encounters. 

 

6 hours ago, lszomb said:

The worst investment I made in red dead online is "42 gold for black Arabian" I want to kill him everyday and now ride on bounty hunter role horse.....

I just bought it last week on sale and it feels the opposite to me. I absolutely love this horse. I appreciate the elite handling and how nimble it is. It's hard to crash or trip even if you try. It's a bit cowardly but suprisingly good during gun fights and not so bad if you can keep your distance from predators. Otherwise there are no complaints. 

[STNeish]

1 hour ago, yeezy203 said:

Criollos are among the most cowardly horses in the game. Great speed but not great for close encounters.

Someone posted a video of her criollo walking around calmly for 8-10 seconds(?) with wolves all around.  It was pretty impressive... but my milage VARIED.

[STNeish]

I watched some videos, and there were many that suggested the Mustang is a good, brave horse.  Kind of slow, and lacking in the health and stamina department... but I'll take anything if it will hold its ground against predators.

 

Bought the ash grey Mustang and named him Kratos (props to Tofu).  He's encountered a couple of cougars now, and stood up to both of them (and they both attacked me within about 20 seconds of each other, so he didn't have time to calm down).  I'm impressed so far, but it's a limited sample at this point.

[jazzbone]

I believe there is a need for horses to have ability cards with a 3 card loadout.
Those 3 tier cards would improve a horse in many ways like smarter, braver, ect.
Example: Comes When Called
Tier 1, faster response
Tier 2, much faster response
Tier 3, comes immediately at full gallop, and actually
comes to player instead of stopping 40 feet away.

Edited July 7, 2020 by jazzbone