King Courtney

[Wolfhawk33]

Ok so I was reading on some tropes about GTA 3, and I saw that one of the characters (King Courtney) was listed as a karma houdini(someone gets away with doing something really bad)

 

But after thinking about how most GTA games work, can he really be considered a karma houdini?

 

Here's why he can be considered a karma houdini

He's the only antagonist who got away with trying to kill the protagonist + he's a powerful crime boss

 

 

Here's why he may not actually be a karma houdini

Well seeing as how he refused to meet Claude in person, then chances are he's trying to hide from the public, and it's kinda hard to run things normally when you constantly have to stay hidden, on top of that, because he failed to kill Claude, he probably got into an argument with Catalina, and we all know how she is, finally, in the GTA series, powerful crime figures, are usually killed, so him ending up being killed in a fire fight or whatever is kinda believable

 

But let's be honest even he was a true karma houdini, who got away with his actions, he wouldn't be as bad most of the GTA protagonists.

[Earthbound]

It's not the first time King Courtney put a hit out on one of the protagonists either. King Courtney ordered a hit on Mike in GTA Advance. He got away with that too.

 

Everything in the GTA canon would assume he is in fact, as you say, a karma houdini. Anything else is just conjecture.

 

It's true what you say though, no antagonist is really as bad as the protagonist in these games. 

[Tao Cheng]

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Edited August 28, 2020 by Tao Cheng

[Copcaller]

He's definitely a karma Houdini screwing over two main characters and not getting killed for it

[universetwisters]

21 hours ago, Tao Cheng said:

He is also the only antagonist who can phase through universes. He became Malc from Lost and Damned!

 

tbh Malc wasnt really an anatagonist tho

[stef_92]

I'm not sure if King Courtney can be called antagonist. The antagonist in the game is Catalina (and maybe Miguel too). Just because someone at some point screws over the protagonist doesn't make them antagonist. If that's your logic then you have to assume that Salvatore is also antagonist.

[Sunglasses]

20 minutes ago, stef_92 said:

I'm not sure if King Courtney can be called antagonist. The antagonist in the game is Catalina (and maybe Miguel too). Just because someone at some point screws over the protagonist doesn't make them antagonist. If that's your logic then you have to assume that Salvatore is also antagonist.

An antagonist is a character who is actively opposing the protagonist, usually openly hostile towards them. The main antagonist/final boss of the game is Catalina, yes, but King Courtney, Salvatore, gangs like the Triads, etc. can be considered antagonists because they are opposing the protagonist.

[stef_92]

It's good that you provide the definition but pay attention to the word "actively"

[Earthbound]

What's your point stef_92? How is King Courtney not actively opposing the protag? He was directly and actively involved in coercing Claude into a death trap in the mission 'Kingdom Come', pretty sure that puts him firmly in the antagonist category....

[Sunglasses]

14 hours ago, stef_92 said:

It's good that you provide the definition but pay attention to the word "actively"

I don't think this refutes my point. He WAS actively opposing you in Kingdom Come, just like how Catalina begins actively opposing you once she discovers that you survived her gunshots.

[GhettoJesus]

Yeah he is definitely a karma houdini. I feel bad for his betrayal though, some more Jamaican missions could have been fun.

[_ys]

On 5/5/2020 at 1:44 AM, Tao Cheng said:

He is also the only antagonist who can phase through universes. He became Malc from Lost and Damned!

nah D-Ice more likely, he also was voiced by Malc's actor