Help replacing unknown textures and models

[TheDoctor69]

Hi, I don't know if I'm one of the few that have this problem or maybe there are more out there. Basically, from what I understand, mixing Updated SCM and VCLF in VC makes the "Demolition Man" building to remain intact after the mission. More info here:

 

A fix is supposedly on the way but in the meantime, and as I don't like to rush people and modders, I came up with an ugly workaround in my mind. Could I take the textures and models from the broken building and replace with them the normal ones WHILE maintaining the normal ones names? That way I would be "hardcoding" the broken building all the time. I could enable/disable the "fix" with modloader, and at least the game experience would improve a little.

 

Two problems thougth. One, I don't know if this is possible. Two, I don't know which files should I replace and/or where.

 

Could you guys help me out?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

UPDATE

 

I ended up using parts of different mods and managed to create a fix that patches the building look. Always damaged (apply after Demolition Man mission), even on very long distances. Remember that this mod is primarily meant to be used along with VCLF and UpdatedSCM. Use it at your own risk and feel free to contact me for any issues/questions.

 

https://mega.nz/file/FdBEEAjS#_UOxCDIXqEJoK_25sBa42jALs5_oG2b9eaBGoNSS5Cw

 

Mods used (all credits to the original modders, I'm not a modder myself, I just tried and put together some files along with some configuration, and just tweaked some stuff minimally):

 

Correct_svhdb_final, by @ToD.: https://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=6226

 

VC.ImprovedBuildingSiteFiles,from @The Eddo:

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by TheDoctor69
Provided mod link

[ZAZ]

this is the code that changes the model of the construction building to the dameged model

03B6: replace_model_at 117.991 -362.461 10.179 radius 80.0 from #BLDNGST2MESH to #BLDNGST2MESHDAM

 

By searching with Mapeditor for BLDNGST2MESH and BLDNGST2MESHDAM
can you find the models IDE

3908, bldngst2mesh, buildingsite2, 1, 135, 132

bldngst2mesh.dff  buildingsite2.txd

 

 

the dameged model:

3964, bldngst2meshdam, buildingsite2, 1, 135, 132

bldngst2meshdam.dff  buildingsite2.txd

 

It's only the facade around with the windows

 

This is the cernel of the building

3830, buildingsite2, buildingsite2, 1, 108, 128

buildingsite2.dff buildingsite2.txd

 

 

 

The IDE entries are inside of data\maps\nbeachw\nbeachw.ide

 

Method to give different texture to intact and damged model:

 

1. Create a copy of buildingsite2.txd and modify the newscaffolding2_256 image

 and rename it to buildingsmod.txd

 

2. change the IDE entry to

3964, bldngst2meshdam, buildingsmod, 1, 135, 132

 

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by ZAZ

[TheDoctor69]

Mmm that very useful info but what I want is the game to use the damaged texture and model by thinking it is the normal one, not to edit any image as I don't need that. Where are the textures, inside some img? Can I take the damaged txd/dff, rename them to the normal building ones, then replace those? That way the building would always be broken?

 

Thanks!

[ZAZ]

Both models have same texture of same txd

 

You can copy bldngst2meshdam.dff and rename it to bldngst2mesh.dff to realize the plan

Either put this renamed file into modloader folder

 

or install it inside gta3.img

i would first rename bldngst2mesh.dff into bldngst2mesh-old.dff (so you can keep it as backup)

then copy bldngst2meshdam.dff and rename it to bldngst2mesh.dff

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by ZAZ

[TheDoctor69]

OK, gonna try, thanks.

 

UPDATE

 

It works FLAWLESSLY:

 

 

Even with its open spaces and all. I took a dff from a ps2 models folder I had.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

EDIT

 

Sorry if not permitted by the rules, but in case anyone else is on the same page as me, here's what I'm using:

 

https://mega.nz/file/VcQ0yYqD#0gzT7723VlZg8mqVhNN6CmKCXzQ4g-lbmHpq4ksS2JA

 

Load dff with modloader or put in gta3.img, and asi in scripts folder.

 

ASI is not mandatory but I think it makes the building better. It's taken from here, all credits to the original author:

 

DFF file is from a ps2 mod, I think ps2 feels, I have a lot of mods and folders right now and don't know which one is which any more hehe

 

Edited April 30, 2020 by TheDoctor69

[TheDoctor69]

@ZAZ I just noticed this does not work for long distances. I extracted the LODngst2meshdam.dff file from gta3.img and renamed it to LODngst2mesh.dff but it is not working. Any idea why?

 

Thanks in advance.

[ZAZ]

LODngst2meshdam.dff ?  this doesn't exist

take copy of bldngst2meshdam.dff and rename it to LODngst2mesh.dff

[TheDoctor69]

I found one though, maybe I took it from a modded gta3.img as I have several mods on my VC and at this point I can't remember with one provides which file hehehe. I even check it with dff viewer and it is definetely a broken building model. Anyway, just tried your solution but still doesn't work. Maybe some file in the game is telling it to use a different file for this scenario. Could you help me find it? Maybe in the ide file?

 

 

File I'm using:

 

https://mega.nz/file/xYxyiISD#CbGDmJYI-K8Ck54W7EMUGk3YHcj4SprSteSmk8jYoic

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited May 2, 2020 by TheDoctor69

[ZAZ]

hm.., what have you done with original LODngst2mesh.dff ?

 

please show the ide and ipl

 

these are the origin entries

nbeachw.ide

3908, bldngst2mesh, buildingsite2, 1, 135, 132
3948, LODngst2mesh, LODnbeachwbig, 1, 2000, 0
3964, bldngst2meshdam, buildingsite2, 1, 135, 132


nbeachw.ipl
3908, bldngst2mesh, 0, 114.9089966, -366.1600037, 7.631000042, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1
3948, LODngst2mesh, 0, 114.9088821, -366.1600647, 7.630674839, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1

 

[TheDoctor69]

I do nothing with the original, I'm just replacing with modloader hehe.

 

These are my lines, there are from the files provided by VCLF (I may have made some changes these past days in order to get the model I want working):

 

ide:

 

3908, bldngst2mesh, buildingsite2, 1, 300, 132

3948, LODngst2mesh, LODnbeachwbig, 1, 2000, 0

3964, bldngst2meshdam, buildingsite2, 1, 300, 132

 

ipl

 

3908, bldngst2mesh, 0, 114.909, -366.16, 7.631, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1

3948, LODngst2mesh, 0, 114.909, -366.16, 7.63067, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1

 

Don't see anything weird

[TheDoctor69]

Maybe it has something to do with the file "LODldingsite2.dff"? I've tried to replace it with the broken model using that name and it works, but I got a with model with no texture and also no interior of the building.

[TheDoctor69]

Can anyone confirm if in the retail, no-modded game the building looks damaged from a very long distance?

 

Thanks!

[TheDoctor69]

Updated my own fix, check it on first post

[mixednuts]

On 5/10/2020 at 8:41 AM, TheDoctor69 said:

Updated my own fix, check it on first post

 

Thanks so much for this. Good stopgap until niltwill perhaps addresses the bug in his updated SCM. 

 

As as suggestion, instead of using gta_vc.dat, maybe just use a readme.txt with the required entries. More and more I'm finding the later method to be better for modloader use (modloader friendly, if you will).

Edited January 31, 2021 by mixednuts