Pvp questions and advice plz? CALLING ALL TRYHARDS

[SummerFreeze]

4 hours ago, askinnywhitedildo said:

That's another thing OP, fighting is frowned upon in this game. It's a taboo way of life tHaT TaKeS No SkIlL BeCaUsE pVp SuCkS. 

 

EDIT2

 

Oh, yeah, don't rely on vehicles to fight with. They're all f*cking junk. Boots on the ground is the only reliable way of doing this really. You may feel safe in a tank, but you probably aren't. And planes? Lol. Don't waste the money. 

You make fun of people who think PvP sucks in GTA Online, but then recommend not to waste money on vehicles?

 

OK

Edited April 30, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[Black-Dragon96]

1 hour ago, Rooni said:

Oh yea forgot to mention if you're taking pvp seriously in this game then you have to play free aim.

The first mistake would be to take PvP in this game seriously. Heck even Bethesda Games are less broken than gta onlines PvP aspect.

 

3 hours ago, No Homing said:

The Starling, Pyro and Strikeforce easily outturn the Lazer, lol.

The Lazer's only chance is during the merge or sneak up off radar.

Not really.

See as a lazer pilot you know that these other planes can outturn you. Thats why you dont turn with them but in the opposite direction. That way you end up nose to nose with your opponent. Since all of these planes exept for maybe the strikeforce lack the firepower to quickly down the lazer in that situation its a 99% sure kill for the lazer.

They could get a lucky hit with the missiles but most players will chicken out and present you with their belly.

[SummerFreeze]

11 minutes ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

Not really.

See as a lazer pilot you know that these other planes can outturn you. Thats why you dont turn with them but in the opposite direction. That way you end up nose to nose with your opponent. Since all of these planes exept for maybe the strikeforce lack the firepower to quickly down the lazer in that situation its a 99% sure kill for the lazer.

They could get a lucky hit with the missiles but most players will chicken out and present you with their belly.

If I could have only one jet in the game, I'd pick the Lazer as well, however, once a Pyro gets behind a Lazer, there is no way the Lazer can shake it assuming they are equal pilots. The problem for the Pyro of course is surviving the first merge. And KD warriors will EWO once they got a more maneuverable plane tailing them.

[askinnywhitedildo]

1 hour ago, SummerFreeze said:

You make fun of people who think PvP sucks in GTA Online, but then recommend not to waste money on vehicles?

 

OK

Yeah, go buy a f*cking Hydra and fight with it. Makes a lot of sense. f*cking thing will get knocked out of the sky in 10 seconds by a explosive sniper. 

 

And I will always recommend no one waste money on these vehicles to fight with. Because they aren't very good. Oppressor or explosive sniper will make quick work of the majority of them. 

[SummerFreeze]

4 minutes ago, askinnywhitedildo said:

Yeah, go buy a f*cking Hydra and fight with it. Makes a lot of sense. f*cking thing will get knocked out of the sky in 10 seconds by a explosive sniper. 

 

And I will always recommend no one waste money on these vehicles to fight with. Because they aren't very good. Oppressor or explosive sniper will make quick work of the majority of them. 

OK, so it's don't waste you money on vehicles, but buy an Oppressor and explosive rounds?

 

BTW, nobody said anything about buying a Hydra. But I would at least recommend a Nightshark to deal with all the Mk IIs in GTA Online.

Edited April 30, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[askinnywhitedildo]

Just now, SummerFreeze said:

OK, so it's don't waste you money on vehicles, but buy an Oppressor and explosive rounds?

Absolutely. You're going to get more use out of those than any other vehicle in this game, MAYBE apart from the Lazer. 

 

 

[SummerFreeze]

9 minutes ago, askinnywhitedildo said:

Absolutely. You're going to get more use out of those than any other vehicle in this game, MAYBE apart from the Lazer.

OK, so they're not all "f*cking junk".

Edited May 1, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[askinnywhitedildo]

2 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

OK, so they're not all "f*cking junk".

95% of them are f*cking junk, and I would never in my life attempt going into a battle with them. 

 

Some people may be gods in a Buzzard, but most of us aren't and we just end up dying. I know when people try to do dumbsh*t like that against me, it usually never goes in their favor. It's why I'm all for just ground fighting. Way less chance of making a f*ck up. 

[SummerFreeze]

1 minute ago, askinnywhitedildo said:

95% of them are f*cking junk, and I would never in my life attempt going into a battle with them.

Yeah, I wouldn't go into battle with an Albany Emperor either.

[Gta_fun_with_guns]

The thud of a Buzzard missile at someone's feet.. Ahhh sure beats the heck outta that weird rock and wobble to hit a ground target on the mk2!

[Black-Dragon96]

7 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

If I could have only one jet in the game, I'd pick the Lazer as well, however, once a Pyro gets behind a Lazer, there is no way the Lazer can shake it assuming they are equal pilots. The problem for the Pyro of course is surviving the first merge. And KD warriors will EWO once they got a more maneuverable plane tailing them.

I disagree with that.

There is one thing that by my experience the pyro does not like at all.

Changeing directions. 

The pyro may be able to take sharper turns but this does also make it more likely to overshoot a turn. From my experience its way easier to pull out of a turn in a lazer than in a pyro.

 

7 hours ago, askinnywhitedildo said:

Yeah, go buy a f*cking Hydra and fight with it. Makes a lot of sense. f*cking thing will get knocked out of the sky in 10 seconds by a explosive sniper. 

 

And I will always recommend no one waste money on these vehicles to fight with. Because they aren't very good. Oppressor or explosive sniper will make quick work of the majority of them. 

First mistake, using a hydra to divebomb an explosive sniper.

You want something that can quickly climb out in case you missed your target. The Lazer and the Starling are great options to do that.

 

Second mistake, underestemating vehicles.

Vehicles are a great option if you use the correct vehicle.

The nightshark, insurgent and moc cabin can tank more than an entire supply of mk2 missiles. A stromberg is a good offensive vehicle against mk2s if you use its speed and manouverablity.

You know your target is out of explo ammo? Dump some bullets down range with a weaponized tampa.

You can tanksnipe mk2s with a khanjali.

If an mk2 is not after you specificly but griefing the lobby, get a lazer and use the canon to put them down. They start shooting you? No problem, fly in a circle until they are out of ammo or loose track of you.

[SummerFreeze]

4 hours ago, Black-Dragon96 said:

I disagree with that.

There is one thing that by my experience the pyro does not like at all.

Changeing directions. 

The pyro may be able to take sharper turns but this does also make it more likely to overshoot a turn. From my experience its way easier to pull out of a turn in a lazer than in a pyro.

That just seems like an experience thing... the Pyro has faster acceleration, higher top speed, better yaw/pitch/roll rates than the Lazer. So unless the Lazer pilot starts doing stunt maneuvers like backwards flight it shouldn't be possible to shake a Pyro. Like I said though, the human factor is huge and the Pyro can't really afford to make mistakes because a couple hits from the Lazer means game over. But from a purely technical perspective the Pyro's flight characteristics are simply better in all aspects. Still, as I also said, for PvP in general the Lazer is definitely the best because proper dogfights are very rare.

[Big Molio]

11 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

OK, so it's don't waste you money on vehicles, but buy an Oppressor and explosive rounds?

It's all you'll ever need brother. 

 

As somebody said, don't worry about jets, the explosive sniper will make short work of them. It's easy peasy. So easy in fact that it is actually more fun shooting down Opressor 2's with it.

[SummerFreeze]

2 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

It's all you'll ever need brother. 

 

As somebody said, don't worry about jets, the explosive sniper will make short work of them. It's easy peasy. So easy in fact that it is actually more fun shooting down Opressor 2's with it.

Why would you shoot at Mk IIs with explosive rounds? You can use normal rounds + BTS and it's a one hit kill.

 

Anyway, I was responding to the argument that "all vehicles are f*cking junk", preceded by making fun of people who say "PvP takes no skill". If even one vehicle isn't junk then the first argument is wrong. I'm aware that the dildo didn't mention the Oppressor Mk II because it literally requires no skill, thereby proving correct those who say PvP in general requires little skill.

[Big Molio]

1 minute ago, SummerFreeze said:

Why would you shoot at Mk IIs with explosive rounds? You can use normal rounds + BTS and it's a one hit kill.

Because it's more fun hitting the bike and watching them fall off, especially if they are too close to the ground to pull their chute.

[BOOGIEMAN219]

6 hours ago, Big Molio said:

It's all you'll ever need brother. 

 

As somebody said, don't worry about jets, the explosive sniper will make short work of them. It's easy peasy. So easy in fact that it is actually more fun shooting down Opressor 2's with it.

Once I get hit with an explosive round I bail and plot my revenge. My next flight I'm going up in the clouds and diving 180 straight down on said person, pulling up hard so im above them staying out of sniper range. I have to really control my speed or I can get hit while pulling back up.

[Big Molio]

2 hours ago, BOOGIEMAN219 said:

Once I get hit with an explosive round I bail and plot my revenge. My next flight I'm going up in the clouds and diving 180 straight down on said person, pulling up hard so im above them staying out of sniper range. I have to really control my speed or I can get hit while pulling back up.

He he

 

Multi-story car parks are my friend.

[secrecy274]

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ballistic armor , is it worth using? Can it survive missiles from an rpg, tank and oppresser? Any general advice or tricks while using it?

Yes, yes, yes and yes, however I don't recommend using it against the later two. Combined with BST the armor lets you tank a ridiculous amount of gunfire and a few rockets. Personal favorite tactic of mine is to use it against every "1v1 on beach noob" idiot I face. 

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Oppresser, can it lock on to people? What are the best things ways to counter it? General advice for going against it?

No, it can only lock on to hostile NPC's and vehicles. A good trick is to surround yourselves with cops, since the bike will lock on to them. I don't know if it can turn homing off, so don't rely on it too much. Chernobog, Jets, Stromberg, Avenger, Thruster and MOC all works against them, however only Jets, Avengers and Strombergs can take a straight fight with them. Jets, Avenger, MOC and Thrusters are the safest, due to how a single Oppressor won't be able to destroy them (Avenger and MOC due to their tankyness, Jets due to their speed and Thruster due to its glitch)

 

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tanks, which one is the best for offensive tactics? Which one for good defense? Can any tanks be upgraded? are there any vehicles that are recommended that surpass the tank(ground vehicle) 

Tanks only works against players without access to Oppressors, so don't bother if you're going to be fighting tryhards and griefers.

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best offensive air vehicle, why? 

Probably the Oppressor MKII due to its sheer versatility or Lazer/Hydra for firepower and speed, although the Avenger is a personal favorite of mine. Needs multiple people to shine though. 

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Guns, are they worth upgrading with explosive rounds? Any general advice for this? 

The shotgun, yes. Only upgrade the Heavy Sniper with Explosives if you expect to deal with a lot of Jets.

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general exploits or tricks that can be used ?

First Person View lets you move faster while aiming. The Quad Lense Helmet both act as a bulletproof and let you activate Thermals for long range target accusition. There's a bunch of exploits I won't share, due to how they make the game cancer for everyone, even if they're less harmful than the invincibility glitches.

 

As for the Orbital Cannon... just don't, if you really need it for a kill, you shouldn't play PvP to begin with.

[junkpile]

On 4/30/2020 at 4:48 PM, Yozora said:

Hey forum  , I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some pvp related stuff. Like what are the key dos and donts for pvp against another player? What are the essentials when doing a 1v1? 
key questions  

 

is the orbital cannon a good source for a free kill if you have the cash? Are there any tricks or things to be aware of when using it?

 

ballistic armor , is it worth using? Can it survive missiles from an rpg, tank and oppresser? Any general advice or tricks while using it? 
 

Oppresser, can it lock on to people? What are the best things ways to counter it? General advice for going against it? 
 

tanks, which one is the best for offensive tactics? Which one for good defense? Can any tanks be upgraded? are there any vehicles that are recommended that surpass the tank(ground vehicle) 

 

best offensive air vehicle, why? 
 

Guns, are they worth upgrading with explosive rounds? Any general advice for this? 
 

general exploits or tricks that can be used ? 
 

I appreciate any responses , thanks . 

Freemode = freedom to do ANYTHING. 

 

I don't buy into any unwritten rules. 

If I kill an oppressor dick rider with my low or high rank the hate messages are the same. 

 

I don't play by any other rules than my own.

 

Now I got only one steady opponent. 

Oppressor MK2 losers. 

They are all the same. No exceptions. 

And I am talking about how to take them down. 

Get outta your vehicle and shoot them off. Easy as that. 

If you stay in your vehicle you'll be pretty much f*cked. 

 

Guns:

I mostly use the marksman mk2 rifle with the holographic sight. 

Now this is a good close-mid-range target lock weapon

 

Combat MG upgraded, mk2 or not, upgrade that bitch with a scope, grip and extended mag and you're golden. 

This weapon saved my ass against players, CPU, vehicles. 

A must buy imo

 

Drive by in my Duke o death, of course the AP pistol fully upgraded. 

 

These weapons are essentials. I also like me a shotgun for very close and personal kills. Remember you can throw grenades and sticky bombs while shooting. 

 

 

You'll never find me in a tank because you are cannon fodder for players. Against CPU you got a chance. 

 

About skill, I don't go into that debate since I mostly play target lock lobbies. 

I used to be a gta 4 freeaimer. 

Offline and Online. 

 

But enemies/CPU in gta 5 are high skilled marksman target locking into you even if they in a drowning helicopter. 

So screw all skill debates. There is no skill with autoaim. 

Only luck and the weapon with the wider range. 

I play target lock now and know there are crazy players walking left right trying to get a head shot.. 

 

No sireee, I am not going into a target lock rifle gunfight. 

 

Now I also don't gift kills to others. 

Meaning, every time I start ceo work and fly in a buzzard or hydra, I put one or two sticky bombs on the vehicle. 

I go after oppressors and if they get to close I totally blow meself up. 

I seen orbital cannons picking out griefer. 

 

Love it being there. Gives a strange feeling hearing it all over the map. Knowing some poor bastard spent a lot of money taking down a griefer. 

Good stuff. 

 

I recommend upgrading your advanced sniper rifle and pump shotty to explosive shells. 

 

 

[GTAMamba]

lol "pvp" in GTA freemode 

[fw3]

On 4/30/2020 at 10:48 AM, Yozora said:

Can any tanks be upgraded?

Some motorcycle tanks can be upgraded, but what advantage that provides in a PvP situation eludes me like gallstone.

[Talisman_83]

The absolute one thing that has no downsides to becoming half-decent at, is ground game.

However, become competent in the air too. Don't slouch on this, because you may find yourself in a scenario where learned skills will benefit you.

Know your weapons and pick the right ones for each scenario.

 

Guns

 

Close: Pump Shotgun MK2 w/explosive rounds

Mid: Carbine MK2 / Combat MG MK2

Long: Heavy Sniper MK2 / Marksman MK2

 

Learn how to headshot.

Learn how to randomise your movements in a sniper battle to disorient your enemy.

 

Vehicles

 

Fully Loaded Ruiner / Nightshark / MOC cab to combat MK2. These will literally save your life.

Lazer for general air combat, but if you come up against an experienced Pyro or Starling pilot, be prepared for things to not go your way, unless you get lucky.

Akula  - no explanation necessary.

 

Learn how to control your speed in the air and abuse L1 + R1.

Learn reverse flight and how to stall. 

 

Playing dirty

 

If you're like me and consider nothing off the table (except for godmode) when playing against a K/D warrior, for instance, then utilise any trick you can find.

It all really depends on what your playstyle is.

However, if you come up against someone who uses every and any method to not die, then you can either walk away or counteract them.

 

I used to use the RC glitch until it got patched.

Nowadays if I want up on someone who is EWOing constantly, I'll RC spawn on them, though its a dangerous tactic. Got to be quick off the mark.

 

Most freeroam tryhards I come across will react instantly to someone going off radar / ghost.

Only some will react to you disappearing from the map in an Akula or RC. All depends if they're paying attention to you already.

There's a heightened alertness, a sense of fear from most of them, so the best thing to do is catch them off guard when they're not paying attention.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Talisman_83

[hugh750]

On 4/30/2020 at 9:48 AM, Yozora said:

Can any tanks be upgraded?

the khanjali can be upgraded, it's good for ground combat and missions where you need to fight enemies, but oppressor mk2 can destroy it.

[Sov47]

On 4/30/2020 at 11:42 PM, Rooni said:

 

Agree to disagree. Been a day one player and the main thing that has kept me going is PvP. I've been in 12+ hour wars and it's incredibly fun. 

 

The issue with your "no fun" post is because A) you listed auto aim B) for Free Aim you listed the two types of weapons that take 0 skill C) the mk2 broomstick and night shark also being vehicles that don't take much thought to use.

Another day 1 player here. The thing is you're right. This game can really shine when combat is done right. The problem is its not in your control what the other player uses. For people who aren't very good at the game (and there are MANY) the go-to is the minigun and rpg. 

 

The combat 'feels' good when it looks good. When it looks more or less grounded or movie-like. Miniguns and rpgs hardly look cool. It's boring, bland and plain stupid. 

 

I loved combat in the early beginning. Nobody owned rpgs or miniguns, marksman rifles and first person strafing were non-existent and people could rely on their customized weapons in deathmatches

[secrecy274]

56 minutes ago, Sov47 said:

Another day 1 player here. The thing is you're right. This game can really shine when combat is done right. The problem is its not in your control what the other player uses. For people who aren't very good at the game (and there are MANY) the go-to is the minigun and rpg. 

 

The combat 'feels' good when it looks good. When it looks more or less grounded or movie-like. Miniguns and rpgs hardly look cool. It's boring, bland and plain stupid. 

 

I loved combat in the early beginning. Nobody owned rpgs or miniguns, marksman rifles and first person strafing were non-existent and people could rely on their customized weapons in deathmatches

I've often wondered how the game would play out if they were to remove all military grade weapons, weaponized vehicles and explosive weapons except pipebombs, grenades and molotovs. A huge freeroam game more in the spirit of the first third of GTA San Andreas, with gangster and the like, instead of corporations with military tech in their pockets.

 

Imagine drive-by's instead of jets carpet-bombings.

[Yozora]

I had hoped that this post would lighten up after I left for a little bit. Lol! 
Thanks to the people who left constructive responses. I read through them carefully and will

continue to do so when I need a reference. 
You guys are the best

[JackCarter]

On 4/30/2020 at 9:48 AM, Yozora said:

Hey forum  , I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some pvp related stuff. Like what are the key dos and donts for pvp against another player? What are the essentials when doing a 1v1? 
key questions  

 

is the orbital cannon a good source for a free kill if you have the cash? Are there any tricks or things to be aware of when using it?

 

ballistic armor , is it worth using? Can it survive missiles from an rpg, tank and oppresser? Any general advice or tricks while using it? 
 

Oppresser, can it lock on to people? What are the best things ways to counter it? General advice for going against it? 
 

tanks, which one is the best for offensive tactics? Which one for good defense? Can any tanks be upgraded? are there any vehicles that are recommended that surpass the tank(ground vehicle) 

 

best offensive air vehicle, why? 
 

Guns, are they worth upgrading with explosive rounds? Any general advice for this? 
 

general exploits or tricks that can be used ? 
 

I appreciate any responses , thanks . 

Tactics will always win in GTAO. Doesn't matter how much you try or spend or whether you're in Free Aim or GTA Aim. This game is very limited yet somehow managed to become one of the better tactical shooters of the last 10 years. This is only more glaring & obvious with the more crutch vehicles they add. The only time I have been killed by a crutch vehicle since transferring consoles 1-1-16 was when a duo in a DeLorean went off radar and ran me over after I racked up over 20 combined kills on them, which all started because they blew up my bicycle..

 

All weaponized vehicles can easily be defeated on foot if you use your environment & math. I only own the vehicles that were available on 360 and they only see use in missions or friends only lobbies.

 

Here's my must have list.

 

Scuba Suit

Sultan Sedan

AP Pistol

Combat PDW

Assault Shotgun

 

MG, Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle & Sniper Rifle should be based on personal preference. 

You shouldn't use the PDW in free roam. It's a stealth job only weapon.

 

My entire load out is as follows 

Pistols

-Combat Pistol, suppressed(for mission use)

-AP Pistol

-Flare Gun(for mission use & no radar lobbies)

-Up N Atomizer(for moving objects)

MGs

-Combat PDW(for mission use)

-Combat MG MK2

Assault Rifles

-Advanced Rifle 

Sniper Rifles

-Heavy Sniper(currently MK2 for Shooting Range, will revert eventually)

-Marksman Rifle MK2(in SOCOM CQB configuration, for mission use)

Shotguns

-Assault Shotgun

Specials

-Homing Launcher 

Explosives

-Sticky Bombs

-Jerry Can

Hands

-Knife

-Flashlight

 

 

I only use regular ammo.

 

Since day 1, the best car in the game for free roam in LS remains the Sultan Sedan. This is the standard 4 door Sultan driven by NPCs. The importance of 4 doors is for crew & friends. The insurance is $150. I'll put up 10 heist finales of your choice at 100% cut on X1 to whoever wants to put their whatever overpriced vehicle against my Sultan Sedan in LS, you will NOT outdrive me, I guarantee it. In Blaine County, I usually go for something with more top end speed and less traction. Personally, I prefer the Casco. I'm 23-0 against Super Cars in impromptus from Mirror Park to Beeker's Garage in Paleto Bay.

 

Weapons & Vehicles are tools. You have to find out what's best for you. 

 

The only time I've ever used EWO was when cops were overwhelming. It's not hard to kill a person with a 3-5 star wanted level when they're on foot and getting shot by 20+ people. I've never used EWO when someone was around me. If I kill you & directly EWO, if anything, you have the advantage because you spawn first. 

 

I've used helmets in LTS & deathmatches, I'll sometimes use them in jobs. I'll only use them in free roam if the other person is. I think they look dorky in free roam and I prefer to present my character's realistic appearance. 

On 5/6/2020 at 8:06 AM, Sov47 said:

Another day 1 player here.

 

I loved combat in the early beginning. Nobody owned rpgs or miniguns, marksman rifles and first person strafing were non-existent and people could rely on their customized weapons in deathmatches

LOL, tf are you talking about? Everyone and their mother had tanks in 2013. I literally had to try & maneuver through 12 people in tanks after completing the tutorial. It was so overwhelmingly off putting that I didn't even put the disc back in the console until January 2014 and even then I tried desperately to play solo, paranoid of free roam altogether. Wasn't until Valentine's Massacre that I opened the door back up because I wanted the Capone gear... Rest is history. But I vividly remember my 2013 introduction to GTAO. It was terrible.

 

You're right though on how the game's combat can shine when done correctly.

[SummerFreeze]

12 hours ago, JackCarter said:

My entire load out is as follows 

Pistols

-Combat Pistol, suppressed(for mission use)

-AP Pistol

-Flare Gun(for mission use & no radar lobbies)

-Up N Atomizer(for moving objects)

MGs

-Combat PDW(for mission use)

-Combat MG MK2

Assault Rifles

-Advanced Rifle 

Sniper Rifles

-Heavy Sniper(currently MK2 for Shooting Range, will revert eventually)

-Marksman Rifle MK2(in SOCOM CQB configuration, for mission use)

Shotguns

-Assault Shotgun

Specials

-Homing Launcher 

Explosives

-Sticky Bombs

-Jerry Can

Hands

-Knife

-Flashlight

Why don't you put a suppressor on the Advanced Rifle and get rid of the Combat Pistol and Combat PDW?

 

Seems redundant unless it's a style decision.

[JackCarter]

11 hours ago, SummerFreeze said:

Why don't you put a suppressor on the Advanced Rifle and get rid of the Combat Pistol and Combat PDW?

 

Seems redundant unless it's a style decision.

Size-Mobility. I don't actually use the pistol much, if I remember correctly it didn't show up in my loadout options so I just put a suppressor on it. 

 

[C-R-Z-Y-7-7]

On 5/8/2020 at 3:56 PM, JackCarter said:

Tactics will always win in GTAO. Doesn't matter how much you try or spend or whether you're in Free Aim or GTA Aim. This game is very limited yet somehow managed to become one of the better tactical shooters of the last 10 years. This is only more glaring & obvious with the more crutch vehicles they add. The only time I have been killed by a crutch vehicle since transferring consoles 1-1-16 was when a duo in a DeLorean went off radar and ran me over after I racked up over 20 combined kills on them, which all started because they blew up my bicycle..

 

All weaponized vehicles can easily be defeated on foot if you use your environment & math. I only own the vehicles that were available on 360 and they only see use in missions or friends only lobbies.

 

Here's my must have list.

 

Scuba Suit

Sultan Sedan

AP Pistol

Combat PDW

Assault Shotgun

 

MG, Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle & Sniper Rifle should be based on personal preference. 

You shouldn't use the PDW in free roam. It's a stealth job only weapon.

 

My entire load out is as follows 

Pistols

-Combat Pistol, suppressed(for mission use)

-AP Pistol

-Flare Gun(for mission use & no radar lobbies)

-Up N Atomizer(for moving objects)

MGs

-Combat PDW(for mission use)

-Combat MG MK2

Assault Rifles

-Advanced Rifle 

Sniper Rifles

-Heavy Sniper(currently MK2 for Shooting Range, will revert eventually)

-Marksman Rifle MK2(in SOCOM CQB configuration, for mission use)

Shotguns

-Assault Shotgun

Specials

-Homing Launcher 

Explosives

-Sticky Bombs

-Jerry Can

Hands

-Knife

-Flashlight

 

 

I only use regular ammo.

 

Since day 1, the best car in the game for free roam in LS remains the Sultan Sedan. This is the standard 4 door Sultan driven by NPCs. The importance of 4 doors is for crew & friends. The insurance is $150. I'll put up 10 heist finales of your choice at 100% cut on X1 to whoever wants to put their whatever overpriced vehicle against my Sultan Sedan in LS, you will NOT outdrive me, I guarantee it. In Blaine County, I usually go for something with more top end speed and less traction. Personally, I prefer the Casco. I'm 23-0 against Super Cars in impromptus from Mirror Park to Beeker's Garage in Paleto Bay.

 

Weapons & Vehicles are tools. You have to find out what's best for you. 

 

The only time I've ever used EWO was when cops were overwhelming. It's not hard to kill a person with a 3-5 star wanted level when they're on foot and getting shot by 20+ people. I've never used EWO when someone was around me. If I kill you & directly EWO, if anything, you have the advantage because you spawn first. 

 

I've used helmets in LTS & deathmatches, I'll sometimes use them in jobs. I'll only use them in free roam if the other person is. I think they look dorky in free roam and I prefer to present my character's realistic appearance. 

LOL, tf are you talking about? Everyone and their mother had tanks in 2013. I literally had to try & maneuver through 12 people in tanks after completing the tutorial. It was so overwhelmingly off putting that I didn't even put the disc back in the console until January 2014 and even then I tried desperately to play solo, paranoid of free roam altogether. Wasn't until Valentine's Massacre that I opened the door back up because I wanted the Capone gear... Rest is history. But I vividly remember my 2013 introduction to GTAO. It was terrible.

 

You're right though on how the game's combat can shine when done correctly.

Challenge accepted, are you on PS4?