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Is Charles the only gangmember you would favor over Arthur in a fight?


Retro_Causality

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Retro_Causality

in an H2H fight, i think in a gun fight, Arthur would win but in a pure bare knuckle brawl

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Lemoyne outlaw

i think they are about even in terms of fist fighting. it would be interesting to see who would win. but in terms of gun fight. i think micah would always win. i consider him to be the best shot in the gang. arthur can be as good or bad as the player. but in story i think arthur is a good shot but not as good as micah.

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JMarston
24 minutes ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i think they are about even in terms of fist fighting. it would be interesting to see who would win. but in terms of gun fight. i think micah would always win. i consider him to be the best shot in the gang. arthur can be as good or bad as the player. but in story i think arthur is a good shot but not as good as micah.

Dutch is the best shot in the gang.

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Lemoyne outlaw
44 minutes ago, JMarston said:

Dutch is the best shot in the gang.

i doubt it.

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Dudu RDRII

Arthur is at least on par with Charles in a fistfight, he almost killed Tommy, a man with twice his size. Also, I don't get why some people thinks Micah is better than Arthur in a gunfight, he was able to kill or even disarm 4 Legendary Gunslingers, he draws his weapon faster than Micah during the standoff in the mission "Red Dead Redemption" and if that's not enough proof...

 

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He is able to kill everyone and leave no one for Micah.

 

Arthur would definitely kill Micah in a fistfight (he almost did, even at death's door), gunfight or whatever situation you think about... period.

 

All credits for the video goes to GTA Series Videos.

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Cutter De Blanc

I don't exactly think Bill would go down in one punch 

 

and of course there's ol' Blockhead himself Johnny Marston

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Mysterious hero
8 hours ago, JMarston said:

Dutch is the best shot in the gang.

Nah. Dutch did have that one impressive feat (shooting binoculars out of John's hands from below a mountain, miles away, with heavy weather conditions) but that's about it. In terms of gunslinging, I'd say Arthur's the best with Micah being in second place.

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Dan_1983
On 4/20/2020 at 11:55 PM, JMarston said:

Dutch is the best shot in the gang.

He's one of them and you can tell who taught Arthur and John how to shoot. 

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GTA-Biker

I think Arthur and Charles are equally good brawlers,maybe John too.Micah would probably fight dirty,which would give him an upper hand in most fistfights (unless his opponent fights just as dirty,or can at least predict what's he gonna do).Bill also looks tough,and since he spent some time in the army,he probably learned some fighting moves (seeing as guns at the time had lower ammo capacity and longer reload time than modern guns,they probably trained soldiers how to fight hand to hand if they needed to defend themselves while their guns are empty,I assume some boxing and wrestling moves).

As for shootouts,Arthur and John are probably the best,because of deadeye targeting feature.

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Copcaller

Yeah I think Charles and Arthur are the best brawlers but John is no slouch either. Micah is a sh*tty fist fighter as shown during his fight with Arthur and how Javier and Charles easily kick his ass at camp.

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StuntMaster100
20 hours ago, Copcaller said:

Yeah I think Charles and Arthur are the best brawlers but John is no slouch either. Micah is a sh*tty fist fighter as shown during his fight with Arthur and how Javier and Charles easily kick his ass at camp.

John really? He's skinny as hell, Micah could probably beat him.

 

but yeah I can definitely see Charles beat the hell out Arthur.

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Dan_1983

Micah won't beat John in a fight. You're overrating the rat too much. He struggled with a sick Arthur who was at death's door and got thrown around by Charles and dropped by Javier. Micah can shoot as good as anyone, but he can't fight. 

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Copcaller
3 hours ago, StuntMaster100 said:

John really? He's skinny as hell, Micah could probably beat him.

 

but yeah I can definitely see Charles beat the hell out Arthur.

John dropped Bronte in one hit and fought that one hired gun overpowering him even after getting ambushed. Micah would just rather shoot you 

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The Shakermaker

I think John could have Arthur too. Doesn't John knock Arthur out if he goes around antaganising members of the gang?

They should have had arm wrestling at the camp. Would have liked to have seen who was the strongest, was always a fun mini game in RDR, along with Liars dice. Oh why wasnt Liars Dice in RDR2. 

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Dan_1983
On 5/2/2020 at 9:28 AM, The Shakermaker said:

I think John could have Arthur too. Doesn't John knock Arthur out if he goes around antaganising members of the gang?

They should have had arm wrestling at the camp. Would have liked to have seen who was the strongest, was always a fun mini game in RDR, along with Liars dice. Oh why wasnt Liars Dice in RDR2. 

Charles, Bill, Javier, Sean, and Lenny can knock Arthur out too if he antagonizes the camp too much, so it's not exclusive to John. It's whoever is on camp guard duty that punches him..

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Sentinel Driver

Speaking of Bill, he's probably one of the best riflemen seeing as he uses a bolt action rifle and he learned to use rifles in the army. Though Arthur is implied to be a good rifleman as well seeing as how many times he is given the sniper position.

Even though Micah couldn't put down a sick Arthur, he's still surprisingly tough. Arthur can slash his eye blind in the fight and Micah isn't too fazed by that. He will also tank a shot from Dutch in American Venom and his only response to that is to try to shoot both John and Dutch. Hard to say who could beat who because we don't see too many feats of toughness from all the characters.

 

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Cutter De Blanc

Bill claims to have beaten up 20 navy men in a fight

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DarkDayz
On 5/8/2020 at 3:09 PM, Cutter De Blanc said:

Bill claims to have beaten up 20 navy men in a fight

 

Bill 'fighting' 20 sailors. That's one word for it.

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Retro_Causality

could prime Arthur fight like Charles here?

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PsyWarVeteran

Artur kicks Tommy's ass so hard that he gets brain damage, I think he could take Charles too.

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Retro_Causality
On 2/1/2021 at 8:54 AM, PsyWarVeteran said:

Artur kicks Tommy's ass so hard that he gets brain damage, I think he could take Charles too.

fair enough

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McAgent

Prime Arthur is the gang's ace. Charles is extremely tough and Micah's an absurd shot but it's obvious just playing the story that Arthur is the one carrying the gang on his shoulders.

 

Anyways, as has been pointed out, Arthur beats out both terms of feats. John probably isn't too far behind, especially in a gunfight.

 

In terms of fist fighting I would put the list like this -

  1. Arthur
  2. Charles
  3. John
  4. Bill

For the best gunslingers -

  1. Arthur
  2. John
  3. Micah
  4. Dutch
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Mysterious hero
35 minutes ago, McAgent said:

For the best gunslingers -

  1. Arthur
  2. John
  3. Micah
  4. Dutch

I would actually put Micah above John.

Micah is a genuinely great gunslinger. He quickly shot and killed three guys in Rhodes before Arthur and Bill could get out their guns. In 1907, John couldn't land a shot on Micah, even with deadeye. 

I would say that in 1911, post-Mexico John was the best gunslinger. But in 1899? It's definitely Arthur and Micah.

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Copcaller
4 hours ago, Mysterious hero said:

I would actually put Micah above John.

Micah is a genuinely great gunslinger. He quickly shot and killed three guys in Rhodes before Arthur and Bill could get out their guns. In 1907, John couldn't land a shot on Micah, even with deadeye. 

I would say that in 1911, post-Mexico John was the best gunslinger. But in 1899? It's definitely Arthur and Micah.

Let's not forget that dutch probably taught arthur and John how to shoot. Not to mention in rdr 1 he shoots up a cliff with a pistol and hits john. I'd put Micah above john but below dutch

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GroveStGTAV

This is off-topic but i gotta say this. Emmet granger might be beat Arthur in a gun duel. Because emmet never used his gun during that mission. Even with blade, he's been fast.

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McAgent
12 hours ago, Mysterious hero said:

I would actually put Micah above John.

Micah is a genuinely great gunslinger. He quickly shot and killed three guys in Rhodes before Arthur and Bill could get out their guns. In 1907, John couldn't land a shot on Micah, even with deadeye. 

I would say that in 1911, post-Mexico John was the best gunslinger. But in 1899? It's definitely Arthur and Micah.


I can definitely agree with that. That Micah feat in Rhodes is one of the best in all of RDR, up there with Dutch's binoculars shot.

To me the list goes something like this - 

Arthur = 1911 John >= Micah > 1907 John > Dutch > 1899 John

I'm pretty sure Arthur actually beats John in terms of feats but my head canon is telling me John > Arthur so let's just say they're equal lol

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StyxTx
On 4/20/2020 at 2:27 PM, Retro_Causality said:

in an H2H fight, i think in a gun fight, Arthur would win but in a pure bare knuckle brawl

I think John is actually a better gunfighter than any of them. Micah is also good with a gun.

 

Fist fighting, Charles is #1.

 

Dutch couldn't even beat Mary Beth. 😁

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guerilla_man

Bill is a real pussy against fighting Tommy and left the fight to Arthur.

 

Charles is fearless and he will kick ass with Arthur any day. 

 

 

 

 

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