Johnny Klebitz Appreciation Thread

[billiejoearmstrong8]

5 hours ago, Niobium said:

please go away

Lol ok, you can go around saying your opinion on Johnny's death in every thread but I can't. Even though I enjoy and appreciate his character and scenes in two games and you only do in one . I wasn't commenting on whether the death scene was good or not, only on whether it fits the definition of that trope, which it doesn't. Unsurprisingly the long list of examples of it from video games included in the article doesn't mention it.

 

But whatever, I can't be bothered to keep posting about this.

Edited April 28, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8

[Big_Smiley]

2 hours ago, Niobium said:

he does appear in gang wars if you didn't play "was it worth it"

 

jim is one of my favorite supporting characters in GTA

That was only a mission. Terry and Clay always had John's back even after the stories ending because they were the remaining brothers. That's what I referred to. Wanted Jim always being there even after finsining the stories events but R* decided to kill him off that mission for reasons from the story. My favorite part about him will always be when he punches that fed , lol.

[Uncle-John]

Johnny K, one of my favourite protagonists in my favourite DLC with some of my favourite supporting characters, Antagonists and in the city I like to call home, Liberty City and Alderney. its a shame what happened to them in V but it doesn't take away from how much of a badass in TLAD, Johnny, Terry and Clay were even though they end up meth addicts and cannon fodder to establish Trevor as this dangerous psychopath killing your beloved characters with psychotic unpredictably but if Johnny was in his prime and not addicted to meth, he'd probably gut Trevor rather than hug it out

[universetwisters]

tbh I really used to like him until I saw the group of people circlejerking over his death. Like yea he wasn't a bad character, but TLAD made it pretty clear that he was doomed from the start and it amazes me that some people just don't want to realize that.

[LowTierDude]

14 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

tbh I really used to like him until I saw the group of people circlejerking over his death. Like yea he wasn't a bad character, but TLAD made it pretty clear that he was doomed from the start and it amazes me that some people just don't want to realize that.

based and redpilled

[Niobium]

you guys are dumb

[Niobium]

i swear, explaining why johnny's prescence in los santos doesn't make sense is like talking to a brick wall with you people.

 

now we have people saying "eh, johnny wasn't all that great" in here. so much for this being an appreciation thread i guess.

[universetwisters]

1 hour ago, Niobium said:

i swear, explaining why johnny's prescence in los santos doesn't make sense is like talking to a brick wall with you people.

 

now we have people saying "eh, johnny wasn't all that great" in here. so much for this being an appreciation thread i guess.

 

I agree it doesn't make sense why Johnny was in Los Santos and how sh*tty of a crossover it was, but for f*ck's sake you've had seven years to get over it and yea, he wasn't a bad character, but it shouldn't be a surprise that he would've died in an inglorious way, just like Jim and Brian. After all, they are the lost and damned and if you never understood that then that's your loss b man

[Niobium]

20 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

I agree it doesn't make sense why Johnny was in Los Santos and how sh*tty of a crossover it was, but for f*ck's sake you've had seven years to get over it and yea, he wasn't a bad character, but it shouldn't be a surprise that he would've died in an inglorious way, just like Jim and Brian. After all, they are the lost and damned and if you never understood that then that's your loss b man

johnny having a tragic end is one thing, but johnny acting out-of-character is another. i am not upset at johnny's death anymore, just the people who act like it had any meaning

[universetwisters]

10 minutes ago, Niobium said:

johnny having a tragic end is one thing, but johnny acting out-of-character is another. i am not upset at johnny's death anymore, just the people who act like it had any meaning

I dunno man, I wouldn't expect a meth addict to act like, well, a non meth addict. And I wouldn't say that the scene didn't do a good job at showing how crazy Trevor was. If it were anyone else being stomped to death like Luis, I got no doubt in my mind you'd be throwing the same fit like you are for Trevor

[Niobium]

i may not get as salty about it, but yeah i wouldn't like luis getting killed instantly by trevor either

[universetwisters]

7 minutes ago, Niobium said:

i may not get as salty about it, but yeah i wouldn't like luis getting killed instantly by trevor either

But would you constantly be doing Luis tributes and bringing up how much you hate Trevor for getting Luis got or do you just have a special thing about Johnny you want everyone and their mother to know

[Nappy]

uni stomps

[Niobium]

2 hours ago, universetwisters said:

But would you constantly be doing Luis tributes and bringing up how much you hate Trevor for getting Luis got or do you just have a special thing about Johnny you want everyone and their mother to know

yes

[universetwisters]

2 hours ago, Niobium said:

yes

 

I dunno man something tells me that’s you wouldn’t and you’re just saying you would to make your Johnny circlejerk not seem like a circlejerk

 

Plus I doubt, if Luis died, there wouldn’t be dozens of Luis “fans” crawling out of the woodwork just to say how great of a protagonist and how much he’d be missed after years of saying he was one of the worst (which is INTERESTING considering that’s literally what happened with Johnny)

[TheSantader25]

I really don't see what's so hard to understand. 

 

Johnny proves time and time again that he can't let go of Ashley despite saying so in TLAD - > Johnny comes back for Ashley - > Johnny and Lost go to Los Santos, to start over from their f*ck ups in Alderney - > Johnny becomes a meth addict due to bad company and his sh*tty life - > Meth f*cks your head up - > you act dumb - > you hug Trevor and call him out in the wrong time - > you die

 

There's no simpler explanation. Nor a more understandable death in V. 

Edited May 6, 2020 by TheSantader25

[Niobium]

15 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

I dunno man something tells me that’s you wouldn’t and you’re just saying you would to make your Johnny circlejerk not seem like a circlejerk

 

Plus I doubt, if Luis died, there wouldn’t be dozens of Luis “fans” crawling out of the woodwork just to say how great of a protagonist and how much he’d be missed after years of saying he was one of the worst (which is INTERESTING considering that’s literally what happened with Johnny)

i would be annoyed if luis died the way johnny died, but he wouldn't instantly be my favorite (although the writing would still be bad). but this sh*t is starting to sound exactly like "oh people hated IV for years until V came along, and now they hate V and love IV". buddy, i loved both johnny and GTA IV from day one

 

5 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

I really don't see what's so hard to understand. 

 

Johnny proves time and time again that he can't let go of Ashley despite saying so in TLAD - > Johnny comes back for Ashley - > Johnny and Lost go to Los Santos, to start over from their f*ck ups in Alderney - > Johnny becomes a meth addict due to bad company and his sh*tty life - > Meth f*cks your head up - > you act dumb - > you hug Trevor abd call him out in the wrong time - > you die

oh look, another person who doesn't understand johnny's character development.

Edited May 6, 2020 by Niobium

[universetwisters]

1 hour ago, Niobium said:

i would be annoyed if luis died the way johnny died, but he wouldn't instantly be my favorite (although the writing would still be bad).

 

Idk man word it however you want but even if Johnny went out valiantly in a hail of gunfire protecting his brothers, you’d still find some kind of fault with it and bitch about it for years.

 

1 hour ago, Niobium said:

but this sh*t is starting to sound exactly like "oh people hated IV for years until V came along, and now they hate V and love IV". buddy, i loved both johnny and GTA IV from day one

Lol what? It has nothing to do with that, if anything it has to do with getting over Johnnys death because it’s 2020, no amount of bitching is gonna bring him back, and I don’t really even see a problem with rockstar killing off the most unpopular (at the time) IV protagonist, even if it was done just to show how crazy Trevor was.

[Nappy]

Hugging trevor lol. Santader's post kinda made me realise it was johnny's mistake dying like that. Still tho, i dont like the way he died

Edited May 6, 2020 by Payne
Changed the last sentence

[Niobium]

12 hours ago, universetwisters said:

 

Idk man word it however you want but even if Johnny went out valiantly in a hail of gunfire protecting his brothers, you’d still find some kind of fault with it and bitch about it for years.

 

i would be fine if he died in a blaze of glory, john marston style. now stop making assumptions about me please

[universetwisters]

1 hour ago, Niobium said:

i would be fine if he died in a blaze of glory, john marston style. now stop making assumptions about me please

 

I dunno man, somethings telling me that that’s just a way to save face amidst all this. People who never cared about Johnny before would still come out and bitch about how he got got even though he raided a prison and got away or whatever 

 

My favorite thing about Johnny I’m 2020, after his names become synonymous with blind fanboyism and embarrassing to mention unless others lump you in with their groups, is that he’s probably the only gta protagonist known to be circumcised.

[Niobium]

good thing i'm not one of those people and loved the character the first minute i played TLAD

[universetwisters]

2 hours ago, Niobium said:

good thing i'm not one of those people and loved the character the first minute i played TLAD

Yea but it's like the game's been out for five years until V came out and nobody gave a sh*t about Johnny. Then Johnny gets killed and everyone throws a fit about it like broooooo lmao

[.Ryan.]

20 hours ago, universetwisters said:

Yea but it's like the game's been out for five years until V came out and nobody gave a sh*t about Johnny. Then Johnny gets killed and everyone throws a fit about it like broooooo lmao

 

So you're suggesting every person who voted "yes" for Johnny never gave a sh*t about him before GTA V? No offense to Niobium, but he's really the only person who makes a big song and dance about Johnny's death anymore. No one else does so why try and flare up old flames that hardly anyone cares about anymore?

 

I expressed my displeasure of The Lost's treatment in GTA V as I'm sure most people have by now, but it's a done deal and I've moved on and so should the anti-Johnny crowd who really aren't that much better if this thread's anything to go by.

 

Anyway I've always rated Johnny in my top 3 long before what happened to him in GTA V. It's not a crime against humanity to like a video game character for whatever reason you know. Johnny has a lot of redeemable qualities so it's not hard to understand why people like him.

 

Even in the off chance someone only did started caring about him because of GTA V who f*cking cares? LMAO. It's almost as ridiculous as the people who can't stand that some people prefer GTA IV over GTA V so they "assume" they only started liking it at the click of a finger, but they can't prove sh*t.

 

[universetwisters]

3 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

 

So you're suggesting every person who voted "yes" for Johnny never gave a sh*t about him before GTA V?

 

 

No, I'm saying that it's interesting how Johnny, one of the least liked protagonists of IV's trilogy, suddenly gets a reaction (if this thread and surely any similar one is anything to go by). I swear before V came out I saw some threads about how TBOGT was universally the better DLC than TLAD in terms of gameplay and replayability, so it's no surprise Rockstar thought "Johnny is our least favorite IV protagonist, it wouldn't be too bad killing him off".

 

You're right, he wasn't a bad character, he just got the short end of the stick by the end of his story and it's not too much of a surprise that, without much else to live for, he'd get himself got. Yeah it's weird how the Lost becomes a big biker gang on the west coast and other odd plotholes but again, we got a guy reduced to a shell getting killed in a very undignified way. It is what it is, put the dancing shoes away.

[Niobium]

i'm not upset at johnny's death anymore. i'm more upset that some people still just don't.... get it. it's so exhausting trying to show evidence in people's faces and then they go "nuh uh, jonny was week for asley, it was inevitable he woud have sad ending" while ignoring other sh*t like how johnny thought the lost was a lost cause and how contrived the rest of this bullsh*t is.

 

whatever. i know the truth.

[billiejoearmstrong8]

It's just different interpretations of the character/story. It can be fun to debate but ultimately a lot of it does come down to opinion, there's no absolute truth to whether it's good storytelling or not and everyone's free to interpret it their way and enjoy it or not. 

[universetwisters]

35 minutes ago, Niobium said:

i'm more upset that some people still just don't.... get it.

 

What's not to get? He was a broken man by the end of TLAD and if he obviously cared enough about Ashley to get her out of trouble, it isn't a stretch to assume that the two of them hooked back up, got into meth, and went to the west coast. Even if Johnny thought the lost was a lost cause, it wouldn't be hard to imagine that a drug addict would try to find comfort in something he's been doing for a long time, regardless of what sober him thinks.

[LittleJesus]

Yeah he's cool and likable definitely on my top 5.

But it was clear after TLAD he was doomed to a miserable fate.

[Lord Criminal]

3 hours ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

Even in the off chance someone only did started caring about him because of GTA V who f*cking cares? LMAO. It's almost as ridiculous as the people who can't stand that some people prefer GTA IV over GTA V so they "assume" they only started liking it at the click of a finger, but they can't prove sh*t.

I don't see it as a bad thing neither lol. I'd say this is even more of a good thing.

 

If this was true like some people would assume, then that would mean that people realized that they overlooked some relatable traits and development of the character and/or quality mechanics and elements of the game that led them to find much more appreciation for it.

Edited May 7, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49