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Algonquin Assassin

My trip back to San Andreas

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Algonquin Assassin

As I've indicated in other threads I've recently started a new save of San Andreas. As a fairly vocal critic of the game over the years I feel like it's important for me to step back into this game and give it a fresh chance as it's the only 3D era GTA I never finished back in the day and to be honest I'm pretty tired of bashing it. It's time to start embracing what others see in it.

 

So far I've done up to Madd Dogg's Rhymes and so far everything's been good. Shooting took me a little bit of getting used to since I'm so used to GTA IV's shooting, but I feel like I'm starting to find a rhythm. Touch wood I haven't failed any missions yet and I'm even starting to grow to CJ. I used to think he was a whiny pussy, but he's actually a pretty cool guy.

 

Anyway the only thing that concerns me is I remember some missions later on that were a bit frustrating. Are there any tips anyone can give me please? Like should I focus on certain skills like shooting, driving etc to perhaps make it a bit easier?

 

I'm playing on PS4 btw,:)

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@SonOfLiberty

I think you'll be alright even if you don't focus on improving any skills but I personally advise you to improve your lung capacity before getting to that Woozie mission that requires you to do so. I think doing it now every now and then is better than spending 10-15 minutes in the water before that mission. 

 

Also stamina for running more without tiring out is a good idea. 

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This makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside ☺️

 

I'm sure others will give much better tips but what I can say is to just take things as they come, sometimes going with certain presumptions about the game may make the parts which you find hard even harder, though even a noob like me didn't find anything that hard to the point of frustration. 

 

I just finished San Andreas recently and the parts I found tough were Freefall, Zeros latter two missions, Driving and Flying School. Zeros missions and Driving School aren't compulsory to complete the story(though Driving school does unlock Wang Cars missions), and to master the schools it just takes a bit of practice till you get the hang of it, Flying School was easier than I remembered and this link is a helpful guide if you find Driving school tough. 

 

With Zeros second mission I found the key was to not control the RC plane more than necessary, I just let the plane fly while turning and stuff only when I needed to and it worked for me atleast. This also was easier than I remembered

 

Freefall was probably the hardest part for me, its just a matter of timing the reversing of the plane right which i found hard but it just takes practice. If you find yourself frustrated by this mission then this tip from another thread could help you

Spoiler

Freefall Mission Guide By YeTi
Keep the throttle key engaged.
Get to the level just above the Target, The target triangle pointing down.
Fly at the level directly north.
When you see the Target marker move off north, keep a watch for the actual plane.
moving to left slightly below. The Corona will be at your level±.

Start your U-turn immediately when you see the plane.
.You should be behind it slightly above it. So you can dive into the corona

 

As for skills, only thing you  really need to focus is swimming especially increasing your lung capacity because a certain mission requires you to have a certain level of lung capacity but otherwise you should be good

 

Do keep us posted on your play through :)

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Algonquin Assassin
1 minute ago, TheSantader25 said:

@SonOfLiberty

I think you'll be alright even if you don't focus on improving any skills but I personally advise you to improve your lung capacity before getting to that Woozie mission that requires you to do so. I think doing it now every now and then is better than spending 10-15 minutes in the water before that mission. 

 

Also stamina for running more without tiring out is a good idea. 

Yeah I remember that.:^:

 

I've also been spending some time in the gym to get CJ's stamina up to speed because he tires out pretty quick when running.

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4 minutes ago, SonOfLiberty said:

Yeah I remember that.:^:

 

I've also been spending some time in the gym to get CJ's stamina up to speed because he tires out pretty quick when running.

Also if you steal 10000$ worth of goods in Burglary you'll get infinite sprint. 

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Just now, TheSantader25 said:

Also if you steal 10000$ worth of goods in Burglary you'll get infinite sprint. 

Looks like I'll be stealing a lot of goods then.:D

 

Speaking of burglary it's always been my favourite side mission in the game. Probably one of the most innovative side missions in the whole series to be honest. 

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1 hour ago, SonOfLiberty said:

I'm even starting to grow to CJ. I used to think he was a whiny pussy, but he's actually a pretty cool guy.

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1 hour ago, SonOfLiberty said:

but he's actually a pretty cool guy.

Pass that good reef over here fam cause I ran out weeks ago and all shops have been f*cking closed due to this bullsh*t of a virus.

 

 

On a side note

:p I would say don't bother taking any gang turf after Doberman because you lose all that sh*t once you get back to LS at the finale. Your choice really.

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Some miscellaneous tips:
-Make a save before the story missions "High Stakes, Low Rider" and "Wu Zi Mu" in a free slot if you can, then you can do 2 races with custom cars afterwards. Better than none.
-If you don't want to see CJ act like a pussy lol, skip the Catalina mission cutscenes and skip the Deconstruction cutscene too. I always do.
-If you reach the end stage of the game, activate a vehicle side-mission like Vigilante or save the game to cancel enemy gang attacks. Collect tons of minigun ammo from Toreno's house if you want to do gang wars quickly, saving and reloading there also makes the minigun respawn faster.

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Rhoda

During the mission Reuniting The Families, shoot the car you're in with the AK you're given. You won't damage the car and it'll raise your skill level. By the end of the mission, you should reach the Hitman skill level which can really make the difference. Also, do a bit of research on what weapons you want to use and where to find them. After a certain point in the game, you won't lose your weapons as much.

 

When you reach San Fierro, consider finding Katie (a potential girlfriend) and accepting her request. She can be found doing yoga at the Avispa country club. As soon as she agrees to be your girlfriend, you won't have to worry about losing your weapons if you die. She likes a high sex appeal and some muscle, which is convenient because there's a Banshee spawn next door to a nearby gym. You don't have to wine and dine her. Her accepting to go out with you is enough.

 

If you haven't already, take some time to do the paramedic missions. It'll give you a sizeable increase in your health and it can help you out later in the game if you're a little rusty for the harder missions. Try doing it in Whetstone, the town you're dumped in after the first Los Santos story arc is over. All the patients spawn in and around the small town, so it'll be much quicker than driving back and forth. It will also help contribute towards your driving skill stat, which might give you the edge during the race missions Wu Zi Mu and Farewell, My Love.

 

During the mission The Da Nang Thang you're involved in a helicopter crash and it's suggested you infiltrate the ship with nothing but a knife and half your health. That's for chumps. Instead of swimming to the marker, turn around and swim back to dry land. Drive on over to Ammunation, load up on your favourite gun and some armour. 

 

For some reason, hopping on a bike reduces the enemy's shooting AI considerably. So long as the last vehicle you were on was a motorcycle, this effect will remain until you enter a car. This is handy if you find yourself being peppered with bullets in more intense missions.

 

That's all I can think of at the moment, sorry they're a little specific. They're just some little quality of life tips that make playing a little easier and forgiving.

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15 minutes ago, Rhoda said:

When you reach San Fierro, consider finding Katie (a potential girlfriend) and accepting her request. She can be found doing yoga at the Avispa country club. As soon as she agrees to be your girlfriend, you won't have to worry about losing your weapons if you die. She likes a high sex appeal and some muscle, which is convenient because there's a Banshee spawn next door to a nearby gym. You don't have to wine and dine her. Her accepting to go out with you is enough.

Those are some really good tips. I would just add, you can meet Katie at the beginning of the game, you don't even have to have San Fierro unlocked. So if you are skilled enough, you may get it out of the way while you are in Los Santos, so even if you die in restricted territory, you won't lose your stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xJtmxdPb6k

I used to get Katie early when I was doing 4 stars collectibles in San Fierro and Las Venturas, even though I used to reload my save everytime I died 😛 It's useful to have her, though.

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Algonquin Assassin

Wow. Thanks for the tips guys. It's really appreciated.:^:

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Rhoda

San Fierro is legitimately unlocked from Badlands but it's assumed you gain access from the mission Are You Going To San Fierro?. That's really not too far in, and it's not exactly common knowledge because you're not led to believe you can go so early on. Just something I neglected to mention, it's worth gaining at least two upgrades in your lung capacity early on, identified by the pop-up message you get. Otherwise, you're treated to a nice cutscene during Amphibious Assault where CJ and Woozie play video games. It's not too much of a pain in the arse but it saves you from having to go for a dip halfway through San Fierro's missions.

 

Oh, and pick up some heat-seeking rockets from San Fierro airport. You can gain access to the airport early on by pulling up a bike and just driving up close to the gates to the point you're forced to do a wheelie. This confuses the hitbox and the gates will open for you. You can never go wrong with heat-seeking RPGs, particularly during Outrider and Toreno's Last Flight.

 

During the mission Wu Zi Mu, you have a choice of vehicle to use, as opposed to the next mission (Farewell My Love) which forces you to use a ZR-350. I recommend using a Rancher which handles well off-road and has enough speed to catch-up to the piss-poor driver AI.

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8 hours ago, Utopianthumbs said:

I just finished San Andreas recently and the parts I found tough were Freefall, Zeros latter two missions, Driving and Flying School.

For me it's always been Wu Zi Mu, Farewell My Love, Snail Trail, N.O.E., Zeroes missions, Driving & Flying School. I still have the original PS2 version with the glitches, so missions like Snail Trail  & Supply lines are a nightmare. They're easier to deal with on the remastered PS3 version, which most of you have panned.

 

 

4 hours ago, Rhoda said:

During the mission Wu Zi Mu, you have a choice of vehicle to use, as opposed to the next mission (Farewell My Love) which forces you to use a ZR-350. I recommend using a Rancher which handles well off-road and has enough speed to catch-up to the piss-poor driver AI.

Ever tried using Catalina's Buffalo? It always works for me.

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23 minutes ago, Funktipus said:

Ever tried using Catalina's Buffalo? It always works for me.

I have yeah, and it's a good vehicle to use, but sometimes in casual play I didn't go straight there following Catalina's missions. I didn't see much point in going all the way back for that one car, so I tried other vehicles and really liked the Rancher.

 

A tip I forgot to mention that I learned from speedruns, for the mission Are You Going To San Fierro? you're supposed to use the flamethrower to torch the weed. However, if you stock up on satchels from the Catalina missions (being sure to buy more from Ammunation in between) you can get through the tedious task far quicker by throwing them a few metres apart from each other and blowing the entire field up at once, saving some time. Also, this is a great opportunity to steal The Truth's unique "Mothership" (a Camper with a unique paint job) if you can bear to fail the mission and do it again.

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Do the Pandemic mission, It will increase your health, You can find one in Angel Pine. 

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Rhoda

A less essential tip (but one of the most fun in the long run) would be aiming for all gold medals in flight school. This gives you the Hunter that spawns at the airstrip, and lets you absolutely blow through the 12 levels of vigilante necessary for the extra armour boost. You shouldn't need it, but there are some heavy shooting levels in Las Venturas (St. Mark's Bistro and The Meat Business) that can overwhelm you if you're unfamiliar so every little helps.

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Official General

Glad have you on board the SA train buddy !

 

* Try and do a lot of exploration, you'd be very surprised to find certain little cool things you never knew were in the game. Can you believe after 11 years of first playing SA I only just found out in 2016 that SA had strip clubs, pimping missions, and playing pool for cash ? I actually missed all that the first time playing it. 

 

* Use the Buffalo for car races and chases, it's sturdy and very fast. 

 

* Get more into burglaries they are even more fun the more you do them. I only just realised in 2016 that you could do them in every city, and in some of these homes the peds got guns and will blast you if they see you. 

 

* Use the plane to get between the 3 main cities, it's the fastest method of travel. 

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1 hour ago, OmarMohammed said:

Do the Pandemic mission, It will increase your health, You can find one in Angel Pine. 

You forgot to mention that if you do the Paramedic missions in Angel Pine, it's actually way easier since the patients only spawn in that small town.

 

Some other points:

  • As mentioned above, pick up the Hunter for the Vigilante missions. Gold medals at the flight school are required but they aren't that hard to get, you'll need to focus on the final position of your plane: it needs to be perfectly aligned as shown on the tutorial videos to get gold medals. If you struggle, you can steal a Rhino at Area 69 and do the missions though it would take a longer time to reach Level 12.
  • It might take some time but I would recommend doing the collectibles (tags, photos, horseshoes) since they reward you with weapons respectively at Grove St., the San Fierro garage, and the Four Dragons Casino.
  • Take your time while playing the missions. You don't need to rush.
  • Zero missions can be a pain but they aren't necessary to finish the main story, same goes with Breaking the Caligula missions though you would miss a hell of a heist.
  • Speaking about Millie whose card you'll need to enter the casino: just put the leather/bondage outfit during your first date with her and she might call you some time after to give you the actual card. Sometimes you need two dates, I don't know why but sometimes I only needed one.
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Rhoda
12 minutes ago, uncredited said:

Speaking about Millie whose card you'll need to enter the casino: just put the leather/bondage outfit during your first date with her and she might call you some time after to give you the actual card. Sometimes you need two dates, I don't know why but sometimes I only needed one.

You don't even need to do that - take her out once and kill her on the date. Woozie will call shortly afterwards and this will let you break into her house and steal the card.

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10 hours ago, Rhoda said:

You don't even need to do that - take her out once and kill her on the date. Woozie will call shortly afterwards and this will let you break into her house and steal the card.

Yes, I totally forgot that, you're right — I always keep Millie alive for some unknown reasons.

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In case you use cheats, it's not recommended to use the Pedestrian Riot cheat at all. I used to use that in order to pass the racing missions without any problem back when I was a kid, but I realized that it corrupts the save file. You might experience a permanent aggressiveness from gym coaches and vendor food sellers, but that's not the worst thing about it. The real problem shows up in the mission Madd Dogg, in which Madd Dogg will immediately jump before you even get control of CJ, which makes passing the mission entirely impossible, and that's a mission you have to pass in order to progress in the story.

 

I'm not sure about the other pedestrian A.I. relevant cheats, but I often use the Pedestrians Attack You cheat ("BAGOWPG" - not the one with weapons), not facing any problems. Can't say for sure if it works well with the console versions, though, as I only did that in the PC version.

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LordStarship

Here's some tips:

- Since no one said Firefighter, I recommend doing Firefighter sub-mission. It grants you fireproof which would be really helpful in the last mission as you need to run from flames.

 

- In Supply Lines..., always kill the one who's closest to save the fuel. There are 3 that spawns nearby and 2 far away on the north of the town. Kill the first 3, then head off to kill the others. Be sure to not always fly, you can also stay in ground and shoot the cars/bikes if you found a good position.

 

- In New Model Army, before removing the first barrel, I always add the bridge/plank and bomb the tanks first. Your roads will be full of barrels, but barrels are easy to put aside, so it actually saves your time.

 

- In N.O.E., flying in the radar is actually okay. Once the enemy jets come and shoot their missiles, do a loop-the-loop you practiced in Flying School to avoid the homing missiles, but you need to time it as soon as the missile is nearby. You can also shoot their jets down with your plane, but it's unlikely, so be careful when you wanna try it.

 

- In the mission Black Project, rather than go into the control tower, I recommend going straight towards the vent. It's easier and saves a lot of time.

 

- If you're afraid of getting Busted, date Barbara in El Quebrados. You can get her if you're fat, or just having a maximum sex appeal. She can saves your weapon and body armor if you're getting busted.

 

- Remember that doing Driving School is optional. You don't need to do it if you didn't need the 100% completion.

 

- If you want to complete the Export Import List, you can roam around to find series of cars that are parked once you gain access to the list in order to make it easier. Alternatively, you could try to remember the list and save the cars in San Fierro's safehouses.

 

- Instead of following the road in Explosive Situation, you could just go back into the main gate using the main route, and park after you see the guards. Shoot the guards with sniper rifle, and shoot the guards in the other side. You can jump off the building and get the vehicles parked nearby to continue the delivery and save a lot of time.

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Nappy

This is more like a personal advice but i’d suggest collecting the Desert Eagle near Angel Pine, when it comes to the ammunation after some part of the game if your skill is high it’s one of the coolest weapons you can use imo.

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Palacios007

It's not really an advice, but you can always collect some special vehicles, increase your stats and complete the game 100%!

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you will hate zero's missions

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One thing people haven't mentioned yet: honk when a police officer is trying to bust you. If you are getting in a vehicle then honk and then they will flinch for a moment giving you time to drive away.
 

You can easily steal a tank from Area 69 and save it in your Verdant Meadows garage. Makes it easy to do the vigilante mission.

 

There is a sniper rifle on the roof of a building east of Otto's Autos, you can get there through a flight of stairs. During Amphibious Assault you can use this to kill Vietnamese gangsters so you don't have to swim underwater. You can also pick up a homing launcher at the San FIerro airport between some fuel barrels on the tip of the airport. This can be used against the gangsters too. You don't have to have a flying license to get in the airport. If you run at the gate for a little while (as if you were trying to push them away with your body, takes a minute at worst) the gates will open. Oh and you don't have to swim through the rocks, with a little skill you can jump on them from the water.

 

In Dam and Blast if you land in the water you will lose your weapons if I remember right.

 

In the mission Mike Toreno you are expected to drive to the construction site, to the docks and then to the airport however you can drive straight to the airport. Saves you a lot of time.

 

Also you can get near infinite ammo for the MP5, M4 and the sawed off shotgun by entering the shooting range and then exiting. Each time you do this your ammo will double. After 9999 the game won't show you the number since it is too big but you will get around 18000 ammo.

 

If you are in an interior where you can't sprint then crouch down with a two handed weapon (like the shotgun or the AK) and start moving. Press the crouch button again the same time you press the aim button to start sliding. This is slightly faster than jogging but not as fast as sprinting. I dunno how this works on the PS4 though.

 

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Algonquin Assassin
5 hours ago, Tiago_The_Gamer96 said:

you will hate zero's missions

Yeah. I was never a big fan of them in the day, but since they're optional I probably wont do them anyway.

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16 hours ago, Payne said:

This is more like a personal advice but i’d suggest collecting the Desert Eagle near Angel Pine, when it comes to the ammunation after some part of the game if your skill is high it’s one of the coolest weapons you can use imo.

Yeah,Desert Eagle is great,it can kill most NPCs in one shot,and with high skill CJ can shoot it fairly quickly and move while shooting.There's also a Desert Eagle hidden in an alley just next to Zero's store,it's great for getting free ammo for it while in SF.

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Some great tips here, completely forgot about firefighter, which is odd considering it's the first thing I do for any playthrough.

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