GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 4]

[Dourvas]

Just now, Yan2295 said:

Is Jason reliable?

Yes, he knows the industry, he knows people, he takes his job seriously and doesn't half ass it. 

 

Is GTA VI in early development? 

Surely not, there's just no way.

Can you answer about the meaning of pinning the "soon" tweet?

[Dee]

2 minutes ago, StrafeFTW said:

Sorry I'm just worried.

It’s okay to be worried. You’re gonna get a lot of flack for it though because GTA fans outside of this site (and let’s face it, some gta fans here are toxic as well) will pounce on you for the slightest bit of skepticism. It’s gonna get worse once they officially announce it 

[Raavi]

9 minutes ago, Dee said:

I feel crunch is a necessary evil in this industry if developers are aiming to push the envelope and go above and beyond. You can’t really get that with a more relaxed and laid back  workplace.

"Hahah lol who cares about working conditions. Gib me slave labour so I can have a game that is not better in any measurable way but makes feel better because lol labour rights. kek lel lul"

[3Peat]

Guys and gals at R* after crunch was exposed:

 

 

Edited April 15, 2020 by 3Peat

[deadasdisco]

1 minute ago, daley86 said:

I'm sure some guy mocked me a few weeks back when I said I wouldn't expect GTA6 until 2023 at the earliest. If it's only been in development for around 18 months, then it's years off.

I don't think its been in development for only 18 months at all, educated guess leads me to think years. 18 months global studio effort is more fitting. 

[Devdevi45]

If GTA 6 isn’t in development then yeah that’s it for the GTA franchise it’s dead on bricks.. might as well give the rights to EA 

[TerryJamieKingDonovan]

4 minutes ago, Raavi said:

"Hahah lol who cares about working conditions. Gib me slave labour so I can have a game that is not better in any measurable way but makes feel better because lol labour rights. kek lel lul"

Rockstar Games are better than Ubisoft titles by "any measureable way" there is at our disposal. From Metacritic Scores, up to sales numbers and continued support, as well as user Reviews.

 

Edited April 15, 2020 by TerryJamieKingDonovan

[Lexiture]

This is so bad but at least I won't have to buy a defective next-gen console. Thank you, Jason Schreier and Resetera. I love y'all. 

Edited April 15, 2020 by Lexiture

[Dee]

10 minutes ago, TerryJamieKingDonovan said:

Depends on how you look at it.

 

The Pyramids of Gizeh were built by an army of slaves.

 

Now, would I be considered immoral for arguing that R*s quality games might only be achieveable by modern slavery? Yes.

Might that still be the case? Perhaps.

 

Time will tell, whether better working conditions equate to better product quality, personally, I highly doubt it, if we go by example:
Developers like Ubisoft employ exceptional working conditions, but sub par products.

I disagree that the pyramids were built by slaves but I agree with basically everything else 

[3Peat]

1 hour ago, Dourvas said:

Well he could be the robot from the artwork for all we know!

 

How frickin prophetic was Rdr 2 storyline really! Not gonna spoil the Arthur Morgan storyline because you never know who played it but damn... The whole thing was pretty symbolic if you think about it.

 

In what way?

[daley86]

1 minute ago, deadasdisco said:

I don't think its been in development for only 18 months at all, educated guess leads me to think years. 18 months global studio effort is more fitting. 

Ryan McAffrey literally posted an article saying it's in early development and that they only work on one game at a time now. I'd trust him and Schrier over speculation on this thread.

[Dee]

3 minutes ago, 3Peat said:

Guys and gals at R* after crunch was exposed:

 

 

“Sam Houser! Oh Mr Houser! I broke a nail..can I take 6 months paid leave?” 

[scorseses]

Question:

4 minutes ago, Dourvas said:

Can you answer about the meaning of pinning the "soon" tweet?

Answer:

 

[Milo]

6 minutes ago, Yan2295 said:

Is Jason reliable?

Yes, he knows the industry, he knows people, he takes his job seriously and doesn't half ass it. 

 

Is GTA VI in early development? 

Surely not, there's just no way.

Reality VS Reality, wtf is happening

[Dourvas]

Just now, 3Peat said:

In what way?

Spoiler

The fact that he got that sickness. Its like saying that he doesn't like the new direction at Rockstar games and Take twos demands etc. Like a personal story really. Lol even the accountants name is Strauss.

 

[Len Lfc]

1 minute ago, Yan2295 said:

Is GTA VI in early development? 

Surely not, there's just no way.

I wouldn't be too sure. If we assume that since RDR2, Rockstar gave people a little more time off instead of going straight into full development on GTA VI, then perhaps it's been in full development for just over a year. Would you still consider that early?

The 2017 leaks were likely during pre production. with full production beginning as RDR2 wrapped. Or rather it was due to begin. After the Kotaku exposé, they may have changed course. 

 

[MrQuiche]

3 minutes ago, Yan2295 said:

Is GTA VI in early development? 

Surely not, there's just no way.

And then they said they wanted to improve community relations , lying is not really a good method to do so but maybe we're all wrong and the next GTA really is in early devlopement, in this case i think that shooting in your foot would have the same result as only getting started on the next GTA...

[eyman]

This has happened in the past with GTA V. Rockstar are not always truthful with Games currently in development. Telling Kotaku "Early Development" just buys Rockstar more time. The only time we get to know what really went on behind the scenes is after the game's release.

 

[Jason]

All I have to say is if anyone truly believes that game studios have to crunch to make the greatest games you have the brain density of a mince pie.

[GRANDHEIST]

8 minutes ago, concvption said:

Does anyone actually know when they started development of GTA VI?

its got to be earlier than 2014 because: https://www.instagram.com/p/weZqXagGio/

 

but most likely RDR2 stopped VI development completely

(all studios involved, writers making 100 hour weeks etc.)

[deadasdisco]

5 minutes ago, daley86 said:

Ryan McAffrey literally posted an article saying it's in early development and that they only work on one game at a time now. I'd trust him and Schrier over speculation on this thread.

There would of been skeleton teams years ago, they outsource as well. Sure still early development due to no crunch, but also could be a smokescreen.

Edited April 15, 2020 by deadasdisco

[Raavi]

Just now, TerryJamieKingDonovan said:

Rockstar Games are better by "any measureable way" there is at our disposal. From Metacritic Scores, up to sales numbers and continued support, as well as user Reviews.

 

`That succes is not because of worse labor conditions, you muppet. In fact it is widely understood that better working conditions actually improve performance output.

[Dee]

8 minutes ago, Raavi said:

"Hahah lol who cares about working conditions. Gib me slave labour so I can have a game that is not better in any measurable way but makes feel better because lol labour rights. kek lel lul"

The horror of typing up code for hours upon hours in a an airconditioned high tech office! Those poor poor babies ;_;

 

And there is a significant boost in overall quality and polish in Rockstar games compared to the output of other games companies. There’s a reason Rockstar is the best at what they do and why their games sell so well and get massive critical acclaim 

Edited April 15, 2020 by Dee

[scorseses]

Whoever is in favour of crunch time, I would like to see them work in those conditions themselves. They won't last a day. 

Edited April 15, 2020 by gig

[TerryJamieKingDonovan]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

All I have to say is if anyone truly believes that game studios have to crunch to make the greatest games you have the brain density of a mince pie.

Does Neil Druckmann, the VP at Naughty Dog, too?

Someone who worked years in the AAA gaming industry, producing the highest rated games on Playstation?

 

 

Quote

“To solve crunch, probably the best you could say: don’t try to make Game of the Year.”

-Neil Druckmann, quoted from Jason Schreier’s Blood, Sweat, and Pixels

Edited April 15, 2020 by TerryJamieKingDonovan

[Milo]

People you gotta remember whether you believe or not...

 

R* had said clearly 3 weeks prior to the announcement of GTA V that it was barely even developed and was just in the process of brainstorming, and then boom! 3 weeks later an announcement with a well made trailer.  

[3Peat]

2 minutes ago, Dee said:

“Sam Houser! Oh Mr Houser! I broke a nail..can I take 6 months paid leave?” 

lmao

“Aye Sammy-boy, can I call you that? Anyway, my dog just had puppies so I’m taking 8 weeks paternity leave, you don’t mind right?” *finger guns, click-click and a wink*

[TerryJamieKingDonovan]

2 minutes ago, Raavi said:

`That succes is not because of worse labor conditions, you muppet. In fact it is widely understood that better working conditions actually improve performance output.

How come that all game developers who aimed for Game Of the Year, or produce the highest rated critically acclaimed games, endure crunch, whereas those who do not, do not have the same level of quality and output?
 

[Dee]

1 minute ago, TerryJamieKingDonovan said:

Does Neil Druckmann, the VP at Naughty Dog, too?

Someone who worked years in the AAA gaming industry, producing the highest rated games on Playstation?

 

 

 

Yeah those CEOs are f*cking idiots dude. Just ask my man Jason! 

Edited April 15, 2020 by Dee

[Len Lfc]

1 minute ago, Raavi said:

`That succes is not because of worse labor conditions, you muppet. In fact it is widely understood that better working conditions actually improve performance output.

The logic is sound, but the reality is very, very different. It makes sense to think if you work people harder you'll get more done and make a better game. But if you treat your employees terrible, they'll half ass their work and not be very productive. I certainly wouldn't be very productive if my overlords were treating me like sh*t.

They may work less, which theoretically means less content. But... who knows.