GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 4]

[Yan2295]

7 minutes ago, Dourvas said:

@Yan2295 what's your opinion on this ? Looks like they probably restarted development or at least parts of the game. Jason is flexing on twitter the fact that he told us that the game is ways off. 

Jason is so salty about Fun and I disagreeing with him... That marketing budget doesn't prove much, it makes sense for it to be for a new GTA, but it could be for something else too, especially if other studios under Take-Two are working on so many titles. Personally I still don't think GTA VI is only in "early development", even if that marketing budget is for it and not something else. It seems a bit late to me, but it's definitely not impossible, you never know what could have happened during development making it take longer than first expected, and the current situation with covid-19 definitely doesn't help. As usual, only time will tell.

[Kris194]

4 minutes ago, Volatollotalov said:

so its marketing costs aren't yet in the formal business plan. 

Is something like this possible?

[MVP]

If Rockstar simply announced it was in development I think it would ease a lot of people minds, like Bethesda has done with TES6.

[Leonid37]

"Take two" planned a jump in 2023, and now has moved it to 2024. Without crunches and the result is longer to wait.

[YNNEL]

9 minutes ago, Dourvas said:

Lol i am 31 right now and will be 34 by fall 2023 , will probably have kids by then. Beat that!

I’m nearly 33 lol. I wanted another GTA before I have kids. I thought this game would have been out in 2018 or something. Oh well.

[Kirsty]

Since these numbers encompass all of Take Two's companies, like Jason said, it would make sense that 2023-2024 will be a big year across them all since they suggested they'd have 90 titles or whatever over the next 5 years, and that'd fit nicely into a fully established next-gen console audience.

[MaddenedGhost]

1 minute ago, Yan2295 said:

Jason is so salty about Fun and I disagreeing with him... That marketing budget doesn't prove much, it makes sense for it to be for a new GTA, but it could be for something else too, especially if other studios under Take-Two are working on so many titles. Personally I still don't think GTA VI is only in "early development", even if that marketing budget is for it and not something else. It seems a bit late to me, but it's definitely not impossible, you never know what could have happened during development making it take longer than first expected, and the current situation with covid-19 definitely doesn't help. As usual, only time will tell.

I replied to that tweet with this:

Your original comment is still flawed though, you said the game is in "early development", and If RDR2 is anything to go by, then GTAVI is up for 2025. So basically, this just proves that "70% done" was closer to reality than "early in development"

 

He's being childish about Fun's previous comment and I find it hilarious.

 

[Volatollotalov]

Just now, Kris194 said:

Is something like this possible?

Yeah absolutely. If you don't know which year you're going to be releasing Six then you won't be putting those costs in any specific year's budget plan projections just yet. There will be all sorts of contingency budgets that look at different scenarios I'm sure, but these would be just for internal planning. 

[Spider-Vice]

That's what I was trying to say earlier. R* might not have anything to tell T2 yet about GTA VI which means those numbers could be about the 90+ new titles they announced for the next 5 years. Or, as it says, it's a projection, which means maybe T2 expects something there but it could still happen earlier/later.

[Bob Loblaw_]

2 minutes ago, MostWantedMVP said:

If Rockstar simply announced it was in development

Yeah, but it seems that being completely silent (and arrogant) towards the fanbase works better for them.

[Len Lfc]

7 minutes ago, Kirsty said:

Since these numbers encompass all of Take Two's companies, like Jason said, it would make sense that 2023-2024 will be a big year across them all since they suggested they'd have 90 titles or whatever over the next 5 years, and that'd fit nicely into a fully established next-gen console audience.

The Next BioShock will release around that time, also. Anywhere from 2021 to 2024, I'd guess. As far as I'm aware it was in development from 2015, but rebooted shortly after. Maybe last year, or 2018.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Len Lfc

[Kirsty]

Just now, Spider-Vice said:

That's what I was trying to say earlier. R* might not have anything to tell T2 yet about GTA VI which means those numbers could be about the 90+ new titles they announced for the next 5 years. Or, as it says, it's a projection, which means maybe T2 expects something there but it could still happen earlier/later.

Yeah it could be basically like saying "we will need up to X amount of cash available for marketing" so that when it does come to marketing time, it doesn't look like they under-estimated.

[Kris194]

3 minutes ago, Volatollotalov said:

Yeah absolutely. If you don't know which year you're going to be releasing Six then you won't be putting those costs in any specific year's budget plan projections just yet. There will be all sorts of contingency budgets that look at different scenarios I'm sure, but these would be just for internal planning. 

That would make sense. It's hard to predict something what doesn't depend from you.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Kris194

[mussefar03]

Al things aside. Rockstar KNEW this was going to be talked about right?

 

I can't help myself to think that all things rockstar does, is marketing plan. With what little they say, the whole fanbase is grasping for any news, whenever something public comes from them. As we see here.

Edited May 26, 2020 by mussefar03

[MVP]

1 minute ago, Bob Loblaw said:

Yeah, but it seems that being completely silent (and arrogant) towards the fanbase works better for them.

Remember the days when we got a new Rockstar game every year or even multiple games a year....good times!

[Zello]

2 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

The Next BioShock will release around that time, also. Anywhere from 2021 to 2014, I'd guess.

2021 to 2014? Is it going to time travel?

[Len Lfc]

2 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

That's what I was trying to say earlier. R* might not have anything to tell T2 yet about GTA VI which means those numbers could be about the 90+ new titles they announced for the next 5 years. Or, as it says, it's a projection, which means maybe T2 expects something there but it could still happen earlier/later.

While I agree, it is odd to see it stand out that much. I know it can be explained, just pointing out that at first glance it stands out. What stands out to me though, is TT always remain silent until Rockstar have spoken. Aaaand Rockstar haven't spoken yet, so...

 

Either;

A) They were meant to have, by now (COVID-19)

B) it's not Rockstar related, but BioShock and other titles, perhaps XCOM, too.

C) ?

[Kris194]

2 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

The Next BioShock will release around that time, also. Anywhere from 2021 to 2014, I'd guess. As far as I'm aware it was in development from 2015, but rebooted shortly after. Maybe last year, or 2018.

2014? Man, I'm gonna need my Delorean

[Volatollotalov]

The other option, and I know this is not popular with some, is that Six doesn't release in a single 'big bang' but instead comes out in instalments over maybe 5+ years.

 

In that case, you would still have a spike in marketing costs at first, but less so than a big single drop.  

 

Then there would have to be a sustained campaign for each follow-up release for part 2, 3 etc... It would be similar to the way each GTAO DLC is promoted, but much bigger. You incrementally build the brand while flexibly responding to consumer appetite. 

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Volatollotalov

[Len Lfc]

Just now, Zello said:

2021 to 2014? Is it going to time travel?

Going back in time to teach me to type properly, I think...

[Smart speculation1]

2 minutes ago, mussefar03 said:

Al things aside. Rockstar KNEW this was going to be talked about right?

 

I can't help myself to think that all things rockstar does, is marketing plan. With what little they say, the whole fanbase is grasping for any news, whenever something public comes from them. As we see here.

Well of course they know, but this budget thing if for take two.  Which has confirmed that there will be 90+ new titles in the next few years.  so they know it doesn’t specifically narrow it down to rockstar. 

[Gentle_Shelby]

16 minutes ago, Kirsty said:

Same as you. That means we could be over 40 for GTA 7. 

 

I'm gonna have a mid-life crisis in a minute.

I’m only 21 and I feel like I’m already having one. 

[MaddenedGhost]

Just now, mussefar03 said:

Al things aside. Rockstar KNEW this was going to be talked about right?

 

 

I posted this as replies to those tweets when this whole nonsense started

I'm thinking we've fallen into the biggest yet the most silent marketing stunt we've ever seen lol
not a single official word about the game yet people are freaking out about the next gta.

 

I have said it before, this looks like a smart marketing stunt from Rockstar, ever since he got that "info", and people have been talking about GTAVI despite no official words from them.

and I still stand by what I said lol

[marquuard]

you just need to post only two words to give the topic a huge boost: "early development"

[Jason]

You want some wild speculation?

 

Nothing in those charts is related to Rockstar. Take-Two have multiple, dozens even, AAA projects in the works. They have nothing this year, they've admitted as much and the marketing budget for this year (FY21) backs that up, and 2021-2022 will be somewhat lowkey in general as well due to the lower console install base in the first year or two, not a super attractive time to release AAA projects. 2023-2024 will be when the bigger AAA projects start rolling out due to dev time + install base having time to grow. The only reason 2025's number is lower is because they don't have much penciled in for that year yet, but that number will almost undoubtedly go up as we get closer to it - just like all the numbers went up from last years chart to this years now that they've got a better picture of their plans.

 

Or to put it another way, the year GTA VI is releasing has a ~50-55 million dollar jump in marketing over other years without GTA VI. That 50-55 million is (roughly) supposedly GTA VI's marketing budget. Unless that's GTA VI's marketing budget for N. America alone, that aint GTA VI's marketing budget.

 

Wild speculation over.

[Zello]

 

I want Mike Tyson as the protagonist.

 

It'd be funny if the trailer was this yes I know different universes and all but picture an old CJ or Tommy saying I'm back.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Zello

[FezTunz313]

Well... at least we got a close release date 

[Len Lfc]

Just now, Jason said:

You want some wild speculation?

 

Nothing in those charts is related to Rockstar. Take-Two have multiple, dozens even, AAA projects in the works. They have nothing this year, they've admitted as much and the marketing budget for this year (FY21) backs that up, and 2021-2022 will be somewhat lowkey in general as well due to the lower console install base in the first year or two, not a super attractive time to release AAA projects. 2023-2024 will be when the bigger AAA projects start rolling out due to dev time + install base having time to grow. The only reason 2025's number is lower is because they don't have much penciled in for that year yet, but that number will almost undoubtedly go up as we get closer to it - just like all the numbers went up from last years chart to this years now that they've got a better picture of their plans.

 

Or to put it another way, the year GTA VI is releasing has a ~50-55 million dollar jump in marketing over other years without GTA VI. That 50-55 million is (roughly) supposedly GTA VI's marketing budget. Unless that's GTA VI's marketing budget for N. America alone, that aint GTA VI's marketing budget.

 

Wild speculation over.

I'm inclined to agree. Typically, and I may be wrong. But a games marketing budget usually matches the budget spent on it's development. GTA VI would have a very big marketing budget. I still think the time frame matches. But perhaps it is merely coincidental. 

[Leonid37]

The funeral took place only in the minds of school children and sofa experts. Those who know in advance how things will be during development and how the game will look at the start are better than the developers themselves.Yes, what do we know about this marketing and what will be the advertising of GTA VI?Nothing..Jason emphasize already handled such cases in relation to Rockstar and all his information in relation to former developers, emphasize former!!

[Spider-Vice]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

Or to put it another way, the year GTA VI is releasing has a ~50-55 million dollar jump in marketing over other years without GTA VI. That 50-55 million is (roughly) supposedly GTA VI's marketing budget. Unless that's GTA VI's marketing budget for N. America alone, that aint GTA VI's marketing budget.

 

Also, I don't think we've ever seen a humongous millions of dollars jump even in the SEC filings/conferences leading up to GTA V's announcement and release, so not even T2 knew what exactly to expect during all of that.