GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 4]

[Len Lfc]

Just now, Zapper said:

Elder Scrolls 6? I don't even know if I'm excited for it or not once Bethesda announced they'd use the same engine. f*ck knows how much they've upgraded it.

Well do something abbout it, Todd!

[scorseses]

5 minutes ago, El Penguin Bobo said:

I really don't get why people didn't like the government subplot in GTA V. You were doing the same thing in SA, RDR1 and in some form, GTA IV. But now it's a problem when V does it?

I, for one, thought it was pretty cool. FIB work for story mode was really fun. 

 

But when did you do government work in SA? Are you talking about Toreno?

[MrBreak16]

8 minutes ago, Zapper said:

Rockstar would do what they want to do. What we expect is futile.

He is delusional, he says that Rockstar Games makes very bad quality games after washing this video :

 

Although I agree with this video, I don’t think that FoutreHumide understood the point really well.

Edited April 20, 2020 by MrBreak16

[Zapper]

Just now, El Penguin Bobo said:

Which one? Ending C did feel rushed, but I always pick that since I want to keep all protagonists.

I wish they did the Franklin dies and Lamar takes over thing.

All 3 of them. The ending arc should've been 5-6 hours longer and 2 choices for Franklin would've been great. Side with Michael or Trevor that would make the character you betrayed unplayable and he'd turn into an antagonist for the rest of the story.

 

FYI they intended to kill Franklin and make Lamar playable in post game but Lamar's VA got into some legal trouble so they probably changed the ending.

[scorseses]

2 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Well do something abbout it, Todd!

Spoiler

 

 

[Zapper]

1 minute ago, MrBreak16 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvJPKOLDSos

I didn't open the link but I'd bet 1000 bucks it's the NakeyJakey video.

4 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Well do something abbout it, Todd!

Well, it just works Len.

[El Penguin Bobo]

2 minutes ago, gig said:

But when did you do government work in SA? Are you talking about Toreno?

I was talking about C.R.A.S.H but with Toreno also.

1 minute ago, Zapper said:

didn't open the link but I'd bet 1000 bucks it's the NakeyJakey video.

it is lol

[Zapper]

2 minutes ago, El Penguin Bobo said:

I was talking about C.R.A.S.H but with Toreno also.

Toreno's missions were absolutely crazy man, like Mission Impossible but on acid. 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Zapper

[scorseses]

1 minute ago, El Penguin Bobo said:

I was talking about C.R.A.S.H

Oh right that too. It didn't really feel like you were working for the government, you were just doing dirty deeds for corrupt cops. 

Edited April 20, 2020 by gig

[El Penguin Bobo]

Just now, Zapper said:

Toreno's mission was crazy dude. Like Mission Impossible but on acid. 

He sent you on a mission to steal a jet, one of my favorite missions in the game lmao

[Len Lfc]

3 minutes ago, Zapper said:

Well, it just works Len.

Sometimes, it doesn't just work 

[MrBreak16]

4 minutes ago, Zapper said:

I didn't open the link but I'd bet 1000 bucks it's the NakeyJakey video.

It is, I was able to post the video in a thumbnail rather then a link

Edited April 20, 2020 by MrBreak16

[Leonid37]

12 minutes ago, Zapper said:

ИМО GTAV был великолепен, кроме тупого финала.

In my opinion, all the characters in the game are actors, the main thing in the game is the theater itself. The developers showed a typical American society by putting it all at the head of the game. The main characters showed the worldview of this society, and showed it well, this was the main plot, and not the personal life of everyone, and the relationship between them. GTA V is us trolling, that's the main idea and plot of the game, and Rockstar coped completely.

[scorseses]

Just now, El Penguin Bobo said:

He sent you on a mission to steal a jet, one of my favorite missions in the game lmao

Same. 

 

"What thing? I don't know what you're talking about - you stole it. Got nothing to do with me, I don't know what you're talking about. See ya 'round."

 

Such an underrated character of the GTA series. 

[Zapper]

26 minutes ago, Raskalov said:

In my opinion, all the characters in the game are actors, the main thing in the game is the theater itself. The developers showed a typical American society by putting it all at the head of the game. The main characters showed the worldview of this society, and showed it well, this was the main plot, and not the personal life of everyone, and the relationship between them. GTA V is us trolling, that's the main idea and plot of the game, and Rockstar coped completely.

I once read a reddit post that explained how the narrative structure of GTAV was similar to Hollywood movies and also you can see the handicam camera bob and zoom in-out effects in cutscenes. Also Franklin says - 'Nothing in this town seems real'.

 

GTAV is definitely a parody of Hollywood but I would've like a more cohesive ending.

 

Edit : This is the Reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/GameWritingLab/comments/55i8zp/is_gtav_main_story_written_like_a_hollywood_movie/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Zapper

[Devdevi45]

Well since GTA 6 is basically confirmed then I feel T2 should say something about it next month during the quarterly call

[Leonid37]

3 minutes ago, Zapper said:

Однажды я прочитал пост Reddit, в котором рассказывалось о том, как нарративная структура GTAV схожа с голливудскими фильмами, а также вы можете увидеть эффект от подручного фотоаппарата и эффекты увеличения-уменьшения в роликах. Также Франклин говорит: «Ничто в этом городе не кажется реальным».

 

GTAV - определенно пародия на Голливуд, но я бы хотел более сплоченный финал.

 

Изменить: это сообщение Reddit  https://www.reddit.com/r/GameWritingLab/comments/55i8zp/is_gtav_main_story_written_like_a_hollywood_movie/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

 

 

By the way, it is noteworthy that Michael, at the time of the main actions of the game - 34 years old. This is recognized in one of the additional missions of "Weirdos", when you run a race with a female Jock. So she says "I'm 34 years old, I'm not married and I don't care", and in the process of running, she says to Michael, "go faster, old man", to which he replies "we are actually the same age". Therefore, at the time of the Bank robbery in the prologue (and this was 9 years ago) he is 25 years old.

[Milo]

1 minute ago, Devdevi45 said:

Well since GTA 6 is basically confirmed then I feel T2 should say something about it next month during the quarterly call

They won't.

 

Only thing you can get out of this is that if they predict a way more profitable net bookings report for 2021, which is almost probably a new release. not necessarily GTA. 

[Zapper]

10 hours ago, Raskalov said:

Michael is 34 years old

Isn't Micheal 45-46 during the main story of GTAV? In 'The Paleto Score' Michael says his first robbery was in Carcer City, 25 years ago. That makes him 9 at the time of robbery that's pretty much impossible.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Zapper

[scorseses]

2 minutes ago, Zapper said:

That makes him 9 at the time of robbery that's pretty much impossible.

Impossible, you say?

Spoiler

 

 

[Leonid37]

Just now, Zapper said:

Разве не Micheal 45-46 во время основной истории GTAV? В «The Paleto Score» Майкл говорит, что его первое ограбление было в Карвере, 25 лет назад. Это делает его 9 во время ограбления, что практически невозможно.

Yes, of course . I’m miscalculate

[RichWalterWhite]

2 minutes ago, Zapper said:

 That makes him 9 at the time of robbery that's pretty much impossible.

How would you know? Maybe he was 9.

[Zapper]

Just now, RichWalterWhite said:

How would you know? Maybe he was 9.

Bully 2 protagonist leaked.

[Len Lfc]

12 minutes ago, Zapper said:

also you can see the handicam camera bob

Yeah, that's definitely there. Reminded me a lot of Breaking Bad.

[Eternal Moonshine]

1 hour ago, CASH_BONE said:

Only if you're able to drive between them, If the 3-5 city thing was to work you would have to fly between them probably. I know people hate loading screens and developers have spend years trying to eradicate them but I'd like to see Rockstar tackle a project so big they become necessary again

i really don't. not after they managed to put three cities in San Andreas on PS2 when the previous titles (III and VC) required loading screens when travelling between different islands. i'd rather they focus on one region of the US because loading screens are really a design decision and they can consciously decide to avoid them by not going with level design that requires them

[Zapper]

Just now, Len Lfc said:

Yeah, that's definitely there. Reminded me a lot of Breaking Bad.

Exactly, also reminded me of The Shield.  

[JohnPeter]

5 hours ago, 3Peat said:

It’s possible that they started development on VI in 2014, then during the development of that were also developing RDR2, then “crunched” on RDR2 (because it obviously was slated to release before VI) in order to speed up development and continue working fully on VI. So yes, they probably have been focused fully on VI since 2018. But...that’s not when it started.

Yes, everything makes sense now.
 

The game started pre-production in 2014 and production in 2015 for the curent gen consoles. 

From the end of 2015 to 2018 they shifted the work to RDR 2, GTA 6 being a side project as they had to focus on GTA Online as well. You cannot blame them for this as GTAO was earning them millions.
In 2018, they’ve got they first insight for  next-generation consoles.
And I think this when the project changed completely. I’ll explain. 
My speculation is that until 2018, the plan was to release the game on current gen and then remaster it for next-gen. They probably scheduled the release initially for holidays 2020. This plan wouldn’t work as Microsoft and Sony’s plan was to have backwards compatibility with PS4 and Xbox One. That would mean that you they could not pull another GTA 5 time-frame release with a Remaster later. They could have capitalized from around 150 millions of PS4 and Xbox one consoles already sold, but GTAO proved that it can earn more in the long term from sharkcards. This would mean that they would have to develop a game from the ground up for at least 6 years just for the online section - interconnected multiple cities, no load times, something that current gen cannot achieve.

They probably got the first dev-kits in 2018, SSD’s being a game changer. 
This is when I speculate that the project increased in scope dramatically. They re-analyzed and re-scheduled everything regarding GTA 6 and postponed any other project (and I think that this is the reason that they’ve canceled Bully 2). 
GTA 6 needed to be a next gen title, the scope increased dramaticaly. The game needs to be developed for the whole next gen timeframe.

 

I think this is the reason why “early development” reports keep rising, why the timed-exclusivity for PS5 kept circulating around the web last year and everyone knows different things. The project was probably re-scheduled a couple of times.

 

I really think that we may hear something at the end of this year. This “early development” report may just subtly inform us that info is not coming “soon”, meaning in the first half of 2020. 
From a business perspective, they still have to “please” the stakeholders. I’m confident that we’ll get something this year.

 

Anyway, this is just speculation. What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by i.petrucatalin
Grammar

[mussefar03]

2 minutes ago, i.petrucatalin said:

Yes, everything makes sense now.
 

The game started pre-production in 2014 and production in 2015 for the curent gen consoles. 

From the end of 2015 to 2018 they shifted the work to RDR 2, GTA 6 being a side project as they had to focus on GTA Online as well. You cannot blame them for this as GTAO was earning them millions.
In 2018, they’ve got they first insight for  next-generation consoles.
And I think this when the project changed completely. I’ll explain. 
My speculation is that until 2018, the plan was to release the game on current gen and then remaster it for next-gen. They probably scheduled the release initially for holidays 2020. This plan wouldn’t work as Microsoft and Sony’s plan was to have backwards compatibility with PS4 and Xbox One. That would mean that you they could not pull another GTA 5 time-frame release with a Remaster later. They could have capitalized from around 150 millions of PS4 and Xbox one consoles already sold, but GTAO proved that it can earn more in the long term from sharkcards. This would mean that they would have to develop a game from the ground up for at least 6 years just for the online section - interconnected multiple cities, no load times, something that current gen cannot achieve.

They probably got the first dev-kits in 2018, SSD’s being a game changer. 
This is when I speculate that the project increased in scope dramatically. They re-analyzed and re-scheduled everything regarding GTA 6 and postponed any other project (and I think that this is the reason that they’ve canceled Bully 2). 
GTA 6 needed to be a next gen title, the scope increased dramaticaly. The game needs to be developed for the whole next gen timeframe.

 

I think this is the reason why “early development” reports keep rising, why the timed-exclusivity for PS5 kept circulating around the web last year and everyone know different things. The project was probably re-scheduled a couple of times.

 

I really think that we may hear something at the end of this year. This “early development” report may just subtly inform us that info is not coming “soon”, meaning in the first half of 2020. 
From a business perspective, they still have to “please” the stakeholders. I’m confident that we’ll get something this year.

 

Anyway, this is just speculation. What do you guys think?

 

 

 

 

 

 

This makes good sense actually

[kwul]

doesnt big companies get these next gen console specs faster than the public?

[JohnPeter]

6 minutes ago, kwul said:

doesnt big companies get these next gen console specs faster than the public?

They certainly do. The only downside is that specs could change. There are reports stating that Sony’s final console version could be way more powerful than the first dev-kit that they’ve sent.