GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion [Part 4]

[GRANDHEIST]

5 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Maybe the higher ups know or expect/plan delays.

yeah, thats what I meant mostly

the actual employees are likely compartmentalized so much that they are not in the know

 

(maybe for a shady reason, because my theory is that they do this to fill up otherwise too empty fiscal release lineups for Take Two,

knowing fully well they can't make the deadline)

 

dont know how long they can keep doing that though

[SneakyDeaky]

37 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

There's strong evidence to suggest it's not. I know we all love Rockstar, but they're not the most competent developers out there. And their games are ambitious. Maybe they higher ups know or expect/plan delays. But the actual employees have said things to suggest the delays were real

 

You'll have to dig, but his tweets around that date are quite interesting. Sadly, they aren't all part of that one thread.

I had suspicions about planned delays after RDR 2 was delayed, then that big Kotaku expose on the crunch had a tidbit about how the higher ups wanted to now have black bars on all the cutscenes, which meant redoing them all in some fashion. Then they wanted to move an entire mountain just for one cutscene.

 

Yeah I think Rockstar always aim for their projected release dates, but creativity and bugs get in the way.

[Leonid37]

 am more stressed, as Schraer said, that it is now easy for the developers to work in the Rockstar Games, because the top is gone.managers who were shaking for money, and Dan who left followed every detail. The first bell.. 

[Len Lfc]

1 minute ago, SneakyDeaky said:

I had suspicions about planned delays after RDR 2 was delayed, then that big Kotaku expose on the crunch had a tidbit about how the higher ups wanted to now have black bars on all the cutscenes, which meant redoing them all in some fashion. Then they wanted to move an entire mountain just for one cutscene.

 

Yeah I think Rockstar always aim for their projected release dates, but creativity and bugs get in the way.

Exactly, spot on. I think don't think they plan them, cases like those show that they have ambitions and ideas that come about late on that end up delaying things. With Dan, Leslie and other long timers gone... maybe those last minute changes wont happen again. Which may mean they may not have delays, or as many. Didn't the Kotaku article suggest that?

[GRANDHEIST]

5 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

 With Dan, Leslie and other long timers gone... maybe those last minute changes wont happen again. Which may mean they may not have delays, or as many.

but at what price? You could argue those last minute changes made a better game

 

I rather wait more for quality

[Caffeination]

I’d rather wait more if it meant the devs weren’t forced to work overtime, quality be damned.

Edited April 19, 2020 by Caffeination
always forget autocorrect changes “damned” to “demanded”, thus making me look like a fool.

[Len Lfc]

2 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

but at what price? You could argue those last minute changes made a better game

 

I rather wait more for quality

You don't know what you've got until it's gone. But then, when we've finished GTA VI, we won't know what could have been. I've heard a lot of the higher ups are older dudes who don't really understand what gamers actually want, also. It goes both ways. Some good, some bad. 

[Zello]

7 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

but at what price? You could argue those last minute changes made a better game

 

I rather wait more for quality

Eh...are black bars really worth delaying a game over? If I wanted to watch a movie I'd watch a movie. This is a game so I expect a game not a film. Yes cinematics and movie like quality is welcome but I'd rather they not sacrifice and cut unnecessary things for it.

 

 

Edited April 19, 2020 by Zello

[SneakyDeaky]

3 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

Exactly, spot on. I think don't think they plan them, cases like those show that they have ambitions and ideas that come about late on that end up delaying things. With Dan, Leslie and other long timers gone... maybe those last minute changes wont happen again. Which may mean they may not have delays, or as many. Didn't the Kotaku article suggest that?

“We realise we still have plenty to do in this area and will continue to take steps so we can more accurately predict and schedule games and DLC in a way that is more sustainable but still allows us the creative flexibility to iterate on the incredibly ambitious and complex games we make.”

 

"One belief shared by Rockstar employees is that Dan Houser’s departure will lead to fewer last-minute rewrites and overhauls—the type that led to a great deal of overtime on Red Dead Redemption 2. Rockstar has also implemented “flexitime” scheduling for many employees, allowing them to work variable hours based on their preferences and needs."

 

These changes are likely to lead to more consistent scheduling.

 

I did make a small, brief, argument on the RDR 2 sub forum that spending so long on a project can make you second guess yourself, leading to late changes that were not necessarily needed. A lot of stuff was repurposed for the Epilogue, which caused a lot of inconsistencies with New Austin's implementation for a start.

[Len Lfc]

2 minutes ago, SneakyDeaky said:

“We realise we still have plenty to do in this area and will continue to take steps so we can more accurately predict and schedule games and DLC in a way that is more sustainable but still allows us the creative flexibility to iterate on the incredibly ambitious and complex games we make.”

 

"One belief shared by Rockstar employees is that Dan Houser’s departure will lead to fewer last-minute rewrites and overhauls—the type that led to a great deal of overtime on Red Dead Redemption 2. Rockstar has also implemented “flexitime” scheduling for many employees, allowing them to work variable hours based on their preferences and needs."

 

These changes are likely to lead to more consistent scheduling.

 

I did make a small, brief, argument on the RDR 2 sub forum that spending so long on a project can make you second guess yourself, leading to late changes that were not necessarily needed. A lot of stuff was repurposed for the Epilogue, which caused a lot of inconsistencies with New Austin's implementation for a start.

Well, some people will be happy about that. People who are tired of waiting 7+ years might be happy. Just got to wait and see how it turns out.

[GRANDHEIST]

5 minutes ago, Zello said:

Eh...are black bars really worth delaying a game over? If I wanted to watch a movie I'd watch a movie. This is a game so I expect a game not a film.

its more about the principle that they were willing to do that over faster profits

[YNNEL]

1 hour ago, ricosubzero said:

There are ways to get around it depending on what platform you’re on

I’m on PS4.

[Kris194]

20 minutes ago, Zello said:

Eh...are black bars really worth delaying a game over? If I wanted to watch a movie I'd watch a movie. This is a game so I expect a game not a film. Yes cinematics and movie like quality is welcome but I'd rather they not sacrifice and cut unnecessary things for it.

 

 

Actually those black bars were great last minute change. I'm surprised, that they didn't make few cutscenes with black bars and few without them at the beginning and they would simply choose which solution suits better to game. Sometimes that late polishing stage is very important.

[MyNameIsNotImportantBro]

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Edited April 19, 2020 by OmarMohammed
I made a big oopise

[Len Lfc]

3 minutes ago, OmarMohammed said:

Rockstar replied to it's own tweet recently

Are you sure?  Look closer

 

3 minutes ago, OmarMohammed said:

I hope you get  my meaning...

I don't.

[MyNameIsNotImportantBro]

Just now, Len Lfc said:

Are you sure?  Look closer

 

I don't.

As I said, I made an oopsie, sorry

[npc.black]

It's comming...

Kifflom with you, brothers

[_MK_]

11 hours ago, npc.black said:

It's comming...

Kifflom with you, brothers

So what has the Scottish guy been feeding you guys at that Kifflom section?

Edited April 19, 2020 by _MK_

[newb0rn]

Just now, _MK_ said:

So what has that Scottish guy been feeding you guys at that Kifflom section?

It's not a Kifflom section, let's not talk about him here and ignore npc black. 

[RichWalterWhite]

3 minutes ago, _MK_ said:

So what has the Scottish guy been feeding you guys at that Kifflom section?

30minutes GTA IV gameplay video and after solving a viddle we unloicked a playable demo. /s

 

Nah actually it was IRN BRU.

 

But for anybody interested: We are still hiring and looking for new Apostles. So if you want to [email protected] or look up the Twitter.

Edited April 19, 2020 by RichWalterWhite
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[ricosubzero]

43 minutes ago, YNNEL said:

I’m on PS4.

Pm and I’ll tell you a way to get into a solo public lobby. Don’t wanna risk a ban telling you a glitch here

[GRANDHEIST]

Strauss Zelnick has been openly saying Take Two's gotta do better, eg:

Zelnick is a sly guy, don't think he would openly say that unless he 100% knows Take Two has something big coming up soon

 

21st of May it is

 

[scorseses]

22 minutes ago, ricosubzero said:

Pm and I’ll tell you a way to get into a solo public lobby. Don’t wanna risk a ban telling you a glitch here

How dare you try to have peace on GTA Online with a solo lobby! Sickening... 

8 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Strauss Zelnick has been openly saying Take Two's gotta do better, eg:

Zelnick is a sly guy, don't think he would openly say that unless he 100% knows Take Two has something big coming up soon

-snip-

21st of May it is

 

Interesting. I don't know if they would announce a game that close to an earnings call, I would assume a T2 subsidary such as R* would announce a game a week or so before a earnings call. But I am not a professional in the financial field of video games so I really wouldn't know all that much. 

[MikeAmiri060]

42 minutes ago, RichWalterWhite said:

30minutes GTA IV gameplay video and after solving a viddle we unloicked a playable demo. /s

 

Nah actually it was IRN BRU.

 

But for anybody interested: We are still hiring and looking for new Apostles. So if you want to [email protected] or look up the Twitter.

Ive been trying to join since before the topic was closedbut cant pm cause my account is too new, can you tell me what the twitter is or can you help me in anyway

[ComicalAgate]

10 minutes ago, MikeAmiri060 said:

Ive been trying to join since before the topic was closedbut cant pm cause my account is too new, can you tell me what the twitter is or can you help me in anyway

Sorry for the off topic, but, here it is
https://twitter.com/TheLastFishSup1

[RichWalterWhite]

10 minutes ago, MikeAmiri060 said:

Ive been trying to join since before the topic was closedbut cant pm cause my account is too new, can you tell me what the twitter is or can you help me in anyway

I'll PM you. If you need to have the rights to write PM's with a fresh account, contact one of the Admins/Mods. They'll hook you up.

[GRANDHEIST]

25 minutes ago, gig said:

I would assume a T2 subsidary such as R* would announce a game a week or so before a earnings call. 

yeah, thats what I am thinking as well,  10th of May (510 on the casino wall) might really be it

 

what I meant with 21st of May, is that then we will know for sure.. something

[Icumblood]

Thought this thread was for speculation only.

Tisk tisk tisk.

 

[scorseses]

1 minute ago, Icumblood said:

Thought this thread was for speculation only.

Tisk tisk tisk.

 

What are you implying, Icumblood? 

[Icumblood]

 

4 minutes ago, gig said:

What are you implying, Icumblood? 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recruitment

Edited April 19, 2020 by Icumblood