Cheaters on PS4

[John McCabe]

2 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Go defensive and use dynamite arrows and hang around fast travel to annoy back if desired.

 

This. I'll add that when going into a war zone, also load up on level II or III tonics. Dynamite arrow the idiots then fast travel or switch sessions. Do not get into protracted battles with the cheaters, it'll only deplete your ammo. (I've been saying defensive mode is broken / easily exploitable for months - R* get your sh*te together). 

[CosmicBuffalo]

15 minutes ago, John McCabe said:

 

This. I'll add that when going into a war zone, also load up on level II or III tonics. Dynamite arrow the idiots then fast travel or switch sessions. Do not get into protracted battles with the cheaters, it'll only deplete your ammo. (I've been saying defensive mode is broken / easily exploitable for months - R* get your sh*te together). 

I feared this when defensive was introduced and it took a while, much longer than I thought, and I have been lulled into a slumber on the defensive issue since R* appeared to have gotten defensive somewhat right. This is the first I have seen defensive be truly exploited.

 

Spoiler

 

R* should remove all the dumb stuff they did to prevent griefing and give the pve people solo lobbies...and bring back all the awesome pvp that R* ruined when they adjusted all the proximity/abilities cards to appease the same group...it was a half measure and appeased no one really, all the PVErs still complain that they can be shot, and these same bums, beg for passive mode, a broken trash mechanic from GTAO....passive mode I think is "fixed" in GTAO until a glitch is found to exploit it as it seems to always happen.  R* ruined SB, made S&S worthless again, at least SB is again able to counter PIB somewhat, but SB is a shell, and unless you want around roll around with some crew all using PIB, the noobiest card of all, then you are at a disadvantage.  PIB should not even allow a shot until the little X is forced locked.  It should be a free aim inducing just like SB. 

 

For instance, just now some level 62 spawn kills me in BW and what does he do, he runs to fast travel and teleports...but his profile is online, so I can check where he went and get revenge...then what happens parley...thats all anyone need imo, R* had it right to begin with, I mean they really didnt and parley should not be allowed if shoot a player first,...if the parley is glitched around just change lobbies.

 

 

[Lonely-Martin]

Ahh well, it was inevitible that defensive mode would be exploited, and with how big the cheating/glitching to hamper players culture grew in GTA and on that other site with R* enabling so much, this game just had no chance of being twat free, lol.

 

3 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said:

Luckily the game is dead right now.

Online is becoming a distant memory, lol. I knew while playing GTA:O that it's likely to be a bit of a mess, but I didn't expect 18 months of a genuine farce like this has become. Tragic, but true.

Edited April 19, 2020 by Lonely-Martin
Wording.

[AmyStone]

Here's another one. Try to tell me this guy wasn't cheating.

 

 

I've been on the Rockstar site and noticed you can now report cheating there. It used to just say use the in-game reporting facility but now you can fill in a form and add a link to video evidence.

Edited April 21, 2020 by AmyStone

[Mark Smilie]

2 hours ago, AmyStone said:

Here's another one. Try to tell me this guy wasn't cheating

What you can’t see is I’m on amy right also shooting at him after he kills amy he runs at me and kills me . No blip on the map and no damage . This one didn’t activate dead eye . 
this isn’t to bring light to there exploits, this is so if or when it happens everyone can understand what’s happening and jump parlay and defo report .  

[Tha-Jamz]

3 hours ago, AmyStone said:

I've been on the Rockstar site and noticed you can now report cheating there. It used to just say use the in-game reporting facility but now you can fill in a form and add a link to video evidence.

And what do you think Rockstar is gonna do about it ? nothing...

[AmyStone]

1 minute ago, Tha-Jamz said:

And what do you think Rockstar is gonna do about it ? nothing...

Who knows. Better than doing nothing, don't you think?

[Mark Smilie]

2 hours ago, Tha-Jamz said:

And what do you think Rockstar is gonna do about it ? nothing...

1 thing for sure . They won’t do anything if they don’t know who exactly is cheating and since she was clever enough to save The video giving actual proof not just one person word against an other . 
I say well done let’s get these idiots .thank god we all don’t have a defeatist attitude 

[gtmike]

2 hours ago, AmyStone said:

Who knows. Better than doing nothing, don't you think?

Not really, ten seconds of video is meaningless. Yeah, they're probably cheating, but that weak video "proof" is far from definitive.

 

Reporting on console is a complete waste of time anyways, no one gets banned or punished for using exploits.

 

That being said, if you want to waste your time on cheaters, go nuts I guess?  Maybe you can put them all into a hilarious compilation video. 

 

 

[Lonely-Martin]

2 hours ago, AmyStone said:

Who knows. Better than doing nothing, don't you think?

Not in my opinion, wasted effort as we know R* just don't give two sh*ts. So why should we?

 

It's on R* to prove its worth and show us it'll work. Only been 7 years of following their guidelines for this crap and it's gotten ridiculous.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Lonely-Martin
More words. :)

[Mark Smilie]

19 minutes ago, gtmike said:

Not really, ten seconds of video is meaningless. Yeah, they're probably cheating, but that weak video "proof" is far from definitive.

 

Reporting on console is a complete waste of time anyways, no one gets banned or punished for using exploits.

 

That being said, if you want to waste your time on cheaters, go nuts I guess?  Maybe you can put them all into a hilarious compilation video. 

 

 

10 second video showing no damage no blip on the map yeah ur right it dosnt show anything . 
agree reporting on console is useless but reporting directly to them might be different with a 10 sec video clip that anyone with half a clue can see what there watching is someone cheating .

 

21 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

Not in my opinion, wasted effort as we know R* just don't give two sh*ts. So why should we?

 

It's on R* to prove its worth and show us it'll work. Only been 7 years of following their guidelines for this crap and it's gotten ridiculous.

So if we can’t beat them join them attitude . ?

[gtmike]

3 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

10 second video showing no damage no blip on the map yeah ur right it dosnt show anything . 
agree reporting on console is useless but reporting directly to them might be different with a 10 sec video clip that anyone with half a clue can see what there watching is someone cheating .

 

So if we can’t beat them join them attitude . ?

It shows what could be an exploit, yeah. But it's not definitive proof. Not even close.

 

It doesn't matter how you report them, people don't get banned from console for exploits. Period.

 

You can't beat them, so don't give them the attention they desperately crave. Not that hard of a concept is it?

[Mark Smilie]

Just now, gtmike said:

It shows what could be an exploit, yeah. But it's not definitive proof. Not even close.

 

It doesn't matter how you report them, people don't get banned from console for exploits. Period.

 

You can't beat them, so don't give them the attention they desperately crave. Not that hard of a concept is it?

Who’s giving them attention. Amy simply letting other gamers know what’s going on is that such a hard thing for you to get your head around ?? Is it 

3 minutes ago, gtmike said:

It shows what could be an exploit, yeah. But it's not definitive proof. Not even close.

 

It doesn't matter how you report them, people don't get banned from console for exploits. Period.

 

You can't beat them, so don't give them the attention they desperately crave. Not that hard of a concept is it?

almost seems to me your defending them constantly . You certainly seem to know what they crave . Me personally I thought cheaters were just bad gamers who had to cheat to get what they wanted didn’t think they wanted to be famous 

[gtmike]

8 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

Who’s giving them attention. Amy simply letting other gamers know what’s going on is that such a hard thing for you to get your head around ?? Is it 

I would call uploading YouTube videos and writing forum posts "attention" yes. Anyone with half a brain would.

 

You're just letting us know you got killed in Red Dead? Cool. Still a waste of time reporting it, which was the question asked in the first place.

Edited April 21, 2020 by gtmike

[Lonely-Martin]

24 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

So if we can’t beat them join them attitude . ?

If you say so. I don't do that petty sh*t, so, no, obviously, lol.

 

I've stopped playing because of this (and the game being broken), so if anyone's complicit, it's those that remain playing. I've zero interest in being forced to share a session with that type of player.

 

As I said, after years of R* telling us to report this or that however and quite literally nothing being done about it, it's about time they show it's worth to follow through with these actions and report, otherwise it is just wasted time. gtmike is spot on, it's pointless.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Lonely-Martin

[Mark Smilie]

6 minutes ago, gtmike said:

I would call uploading YouTube videos and writing forum posts "attention" yes. Anyone with half a brain would.

 

You're just letting us know you got killed in Red Dead? Cool. Still a waste of time reporting it, which was the question asked in the first place.

You do know you don’t have to follow the thread if talking about cheaters annoys you so much . 
 

[gtmike]

17 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

almost seems to me your defending them constantly . You certainly seem to know what they crave . Me personally I thought cheaters were just bad gamers who had to cheat to get what they wanted didn’t think they wanted to be famous 

Well since you added this weird nonsense in, I'll answer it I guess.

 

I'm saying ignore them, there's nothing you can do. If in your mind that's "defending them" I really can't help you. They crave attention, yes. Why else would someone use exploits to kill other players? They might be "bad gamers", I wouldn't know, but it sure seems like they got one over on you...

[Mark Smilie]

7 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

If you say so. I don't do that petty sh*t, so, no, obviously, lol.

 

I've stopped playing because of this (and the game being broken), so if anyone's complicit, it's those that remain playing. I've zero interest in being forced to share a session with that type of player.

 

As I said, after years of R* telling us to report this or that however and quite literally nothing being done about it, it's about time they show it's worth to follow through with these actions and report, otherwise it is just wasted time. gtmike is spot on, it's pointless.

Exactly Martin . And now if anyone on the forum encounter a player who off the map and won’t die they can react instead of giving these a**holes what they actually want cheap kills so they make there sad little life’s seem more important. That’s all this thread was about 

 

[1898]

Everyone who was still playing knew exactly who the hacker was that ruined RDR1 OL. It went on for years, was reported countless times and nothing was done. He may still be there or he's now working on 2 to see what kind of damage he can do here. He lives for it.

Edited April 21, 2020 by 1898

[Mark Smilie]

6 minutes ago, gtmike said:

Well since you added this weird nonsense in, I'll answer it I guess.

 

I'm saying ignore them, there's nothing you can do. If in your mind that's "defending them" I really can't help you. They crave attention, yes. Why else would someone use exploits to kill other players? They might be "bad gamers", I wouldn't know, but it sure seems like they got one over on

Edited April 21, 2020 by Mark Smilie
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[Lonely-Martin]

3 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

Exactly Martin . And now if anyone on the forum encounter a player who off the map and won’t die they can react instead of giving these a**holes what they actually want cheap kills so they make there sad little life’s seem more important. That’s all this thread was about 

 

I've no issues having these problems being highlighted, though I do agree with gtmike tgat it does also give attention to attention seekers too often.

 

I just disagree that reporting helps or is worthy of my/anyone's time given R*'s history with their online games on these issues. After this long they need to do more to show it is, or folk should just let the game fall to the cheaters and those looking to compromise gamers out there.

 

I'd much rather learn of progress in this area and we can all just enjoy some fun and fair gaming as I want RDRO to be a good game for that, but along with other issues, it's just too much IMHO.

[Mark Smilie]

10 minutes ago, gtmike said:

Well since you added this weird nonsense in, I'll answer it I guess.

 

I'm saying ignore them, there's nothing you can do. If in your mind that's "defending them" I really can't help you. They crave attention, yes. Why else would someone use exploits to kill other players? They might be "bad gamers", I wouldn't know, but it sure seems like they got one over on you...

Your certainly right he did get one over on me I’m glad you finally admit it took your time . 

3 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

I've no issues having these problems being highlighted, though I do agree with gtmike tgat it does also give attention to attention seekers too often.

 

I just disagree that reporting helps or is worthy of my/anyone's time given R*'s history with their online games on these issues. After this long they need to do more to show it is, or folk should just let the game fall to the cheaters and those looking to compromise gamers out there.

 

I'd much rather learn of progress in this area and we can all just enjoy some fun and fair gaming as I want RDRO to be a good game for that, but along with other issues, it's just too much IMHO.

It not about giving them attention tho Martin . Mikes panties seem to be in a real twist about us talking about it . If no one wants to hear about it fine il say nothing but mike can’t speak for everyone on the forum he dosnt have to read the posts 

[Lonely-Martin]

5 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

It not about giving them attention tho Martin . Mikes panties seem to be in a real twist about us talking about it . If no one wants to hear about it fine il say nothing but mike can’t speak for everyone on the forum he dosnt have to read the posts 

The man speaks true, IMO. But regardless of intention, it does give attention, and many that do petty things are attention seekers I feel.

[Mark Smilie]

5 minutes ago, Mark Smilie said:

Your certainly right he did get one over on me I’m glad you finally admit it took your time . 

It not about giving them attention tho Martin . Mikes panties seem to be in a real twist about us talking about it . If no one wants to hear about it fine il say nothing but mike can’t speak for everyone on the forum he dosnt have to read the posts 

As you said were simply highlighting a cheat that other genuine gamers will encounter. We’re no admiring them or putting them on a pedestal. If you or anyone thinks it’s a waste of time reporting them then fine don’t but least you can get out of the lobby away from the cheater not allowing them to have what they actually want a cheap kill 

2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

The man speaks true, IMO. But regardless of intention, it does give attention, and many that do petty things are attention seekers I feel.

Well I think he’s missing the point of the post completely. I don’t disagree with you I’m not a psychologist I have no idea what goes on there tiny minds . All we’re saying is if u encounter a player like this in a lobby get out his way . And at the end of the day he dosnt have to follow the post 

[Lonely-Martin]

^ I assume you meant to quote me, lol.

 

Yeah, if this does prove to help, great. Never against community efforts to help a fellow gamer, just I'm spent trying with this company on this area. It's just a real shame is all, just wish we had lobby choices as this type of thing was inevitible given GTA:O and the growth in this stuff there. Peace out.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Lonely-Martin
Wording.

[Mark Smilie]

2 minutes ago, Lonely-Martin said:

^ I assume you meant to quote me, lol.

 

Yeah, if this does prove to help, great. Never against community efforts to help a fellow gamer, just I'm spent trying with this company on this area. It's just a real shame is all, just wish we had lobby choices as this type of thing was inevitible given GTA:O and the growth in this stuff there. Peace out.

I’m not there yet I still have hope thanks  

[Lonely-Martin]

1 minute ago, Mark Smilie said:

I’m not there yet I still have hope thanks  

I genuinely hope it does help going forward. Good luck guys and apologies to AmyStone for my rambles.

[AmyStone]

1 hour ago, gtmike said:

I would call uploading YouTube videos and writing forum posts "attention" yes. Anyone with half a brain would.

 

You're just letting us know you got killed in Red Dead? Cool. Still a waste of time reporting it, which was the question asked in the first place.

If nobody ever did anything or reported anything then you can be certain nothing would happen. Reporting them means there a chance something might happen. I've never seen the player reporting option on their web site before and it used to use tell you to use the in-game reporting option. So now it's on the web site maybe they are taking things more seriously.

 

The short video clip might not be enough proof but it might be enough to make them look a bit more into what the player has been up to and then find more evidence against them. They might do a quick check to see if other in-game reports have gone against them. There have been bans on GTA so maybe they are going to start doing that on Red Dead. But I'm not going to just be lazy and sit back and let cheaters go unreported.

 

And that thing about giving them attention. Well they aren't really getting any. They will never find that video of themselves because their name is not mentioned anywhere. Maybe some others will watch the video and it will help them recognise cheaters themselves and rather than trying to fight them they will quite the session and give them less attention.

 

When did anyone ask if reporting cheaters was a waste of time anyway?

[gtmike]

21 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

If nobody ever did anything or reported anything then you can be certain nothing would happen. Reporting them means there a chance something might happen. I've never seen the player reporting option on their web site before and it used to use tell you to use the in-game reporting option. So now it's on the web site maybe they are taking things more seriously.

 

When did anyone ask if reporting cheaters was a waste of time anyway?

 

4 hours ago, AmyStone said:

Who knows. Better than doing nothing, don't you think?

You did. Right here. I answered it above. 

 

There's no point in having a discussion with someone who can't even follow their own posts, and is too immature to understand simple logic. Reporting does nothing, it's a fact. Anyone who's played Rockstar games for any length of time should know this.

 

21 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

And that thing about giving them attention. Well they aren't really getting any. They will never find that video of themselves because their name is not mentioned anywhere. 

Really? Lol In that first set of videos there's definitely names. Gimme a break, this is just childish nonsense at this point. I mean the whole topic is childish, but you've taken it to a new level here.

Edited April 21, 2020 by gtmike

[AmyStone]

10 minutes ago, gtmike said:

There's no point in having a discussion with someone who can't even follow their own posts, and is too immature to understand simple logic. Reporting does nothing, it's a fact. Anyone who's played Rockstar games for any length of time should know this.

But you keep coming back with more comments with that bad attitude of yours. It seems you can't keep up with your logic either. If there is no point carrying on with the discussion then stop replying.

 

12 minutes ago, gtmike said:

Really? Lol In that first set of videos there's definitely names. Gimme a break, this is just childish nonsense at this point. I mean the whole topic is childish, but you've taken it to a new level here.

Their names do not appear in the video description so they would never search on youtube and find it.

 

There have been bans on GTA. It's not like Rockstar never ban people. And if you look around online you can see they may already be banning people on Red Dead too. At least I'm glad I don't have a defeated attitude about the whole thing and willing to try.