SA Released Vice City Stories: PC Edition

[terasss]

For me the main point of VCS PC Edition is not the graphics, but the actual original game itself. With such texture changes it will no longer be original VCS TC anymore.

Original VCS PS2 TC to PC + bug fixes = everyone is happy.

Yeah, I agree with you.

[XTad]

I think that you should made original PS2 conversion and then let some modders to make HD texture/trees etc. mods.

[Mateos]

I would go for the toggle option, because there's people wanting the very original, some others would think "Well, that's PC, not that slow consoles!"

 

And your mod is far from a copy/pasta. You remake LODs, why not enhance a bit the textures?

 

(Hope you see my point)

 

Edit:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/02/stop-mak...-ports-a-guide/

Edited February 3, 2013 by Mateos

[plsdeletemyprofileN0r0k]

keep the low textures, some people (including me) really like them.

if someone wants to have a HD version of it, i'm sure that a few people will make it.

[nkjellman]

Make the detail maps able to be disabled and enabled.

 

But I've done that in Photoshop on original Vice City. Maybe instead of overlaying them on the textures, you can make it do it like on VC Mobile so they can be turned on and off.

 

@Blaster: Maybe your right. But I'm not talking about converting a III era game to IV. I'm talking about doing new models in IV. With out using the Rage resources, then I'm sure its no different than Renderware, but with, makes inserting models take a long time. (Maybe like 10 minutes per model, but that multiplies for every model.

[_CP_]

DowntowN completed (with LODs):

 

[Mateos]

Stunning speed of progress!

 

So, according to the map in first post, with Luten on Little Haiti there's just between Haiti and Downtown left on the West island?

[_CP_]

That's haitiN, north part of Haiti.

[nkjellman]

Great progress as always.

 

Things are going so fast. But I assume you guys have the interiors left? I belive you got the shops done. Only west island interiors that I think you got left are:

-White Stallianz Biker Bar (I think that is what its called)

-Forbs Apartment

-Luise's Sister's Apartment

-Stadium

-Ship interior

-Second safe house

-King Knuts (forgot this one lol)

Edit: What about the north part of Starfish Island?

Edited February 3, 2013 by nkjellman

[VERSA]

Awesome!!! dream to see this view at night, with neons *me gusta face*

[Lanser97]

 

DowntowN completed (with LODs):

 

Nice work, CP

Keep it up

[Alek-say]

Very impressive speed of work!

[Luten]

 

Great progress as always.

 

Things are going so fast. But I assume you guys have the interiors left? I belive you got the shops done. Only west island interiors that I think you got left are:

-White Stallianz Biker Bar (I think that is what its called)

-Forbs Apartment

-Luise's Sister's Apartment

-Stadium

-Ship interior

-Second safe house

 

Edit: What about the north part of Starfish Island?

The shops not done yet I mean not all.

 

 

White - done

Gray - not done

 

The most interiors will be convert with mission but we'll think about it and myabe we'll add 'White Stallionz' interior and some others (with access for the player)

 

About Starfish Island I don't know which of us will take it, me or CP. After finished 'haiti' I'll take 'haitiN'.

[terasss]

Your progress is going really fast and who knows, you might release that mod earlier than you planned

[Silent]

 

Unless you want no missions in BETA3

[nkjellman]

 

 

Unless you want no missions in BETA3

A Beta 2.1? Map+timecyc

 

Anyways, the shop interiors do repeat. SA and VCS are the masters of many repeating interiors.

 

But I'm going to admit this. I like the other SA mods out there, but in my oppinion this one is the best. LCS PC Edition is good too, but I think they are changing way too many things. You guys are reasonable with your changes. But will Beta 3 include the Pager and LCS/VCS Blip Sound?

 

Edit: I also remember in Beta 2 you guys added a hall way in Phill's Shooting Range to make it match with the outside. Will this be done in Beta 3 or are you going to keep it original?

Edited February 3, 2013 by nkjellman

[VERSA]

 

Unless you want no missions in BETA3

I can live with that

 

Beta 2.5 FTW!

[Ash_735]

A lot of interest in the past few days!

 

Just finished doing the first bug check for Haiti, it's my least known area, but I think I covered the main things, only a small area so not many things wrong, so far DowntowN takes the award for most things that need fixing but it is a very large areas with plenty of building, side streets, gaps, etc, and helipads, those damn helipad struts.

[RonBWL]

The shops not done yet I mean not all.

 

The most interiors will be convert with mission but we'll think about it and myabe we'll add 'White Stallionz' interior and some others (with access for the player)

 

About Starfish Island I don't know which of us will take it, me or CP. After finished 'haiti' I'll take 'haitiN'.

Let CP do it, or if he's lazy, just keep whatever HackMan made pre-beta 3 in place

[Ash_735]

 

or if he's lazy, just keep whatever HackMan made pre-beta 3 in place 

ot an option, whilst HackMan made brilliant versions for BETA 2 (honestly some pretty damn close to identical) we want BETA 3 to ship with purely converted game models (which again, is thanks to hackMan )

[jippa_lippa]

AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING WORK GUYS!!! I WOULD MAKE LOVE TO ANYONE OF YOU!!! (Unfortunately for you i'm eterosexual lol)

[RonBWL]

Not an option, whilst HackMan made brilliant versions for BETA 2 (honestly some pretty damn close to identical) we want BETA 3 to ship with purely converted game models (which again, is thanks to hackMan )

Trivial time. Imagining you are close to the supposedly released date for BETA3 and Starfish Island still isn't done. Two options available:

 

+ Do the R* delay style and push back release date by half a quarter. Fans complains = ignored, quality is quality, no discussion

+ Do the Modders Moral code and make BETA 2.5 with only SF Island not original model. In other word, BETA3 will become another update, minor or major, up to the team. Everyone wins.

 

No offense, I repeat, NO offense - just my personal-generic opinion

[Ash_735]

Trivial time. Imagining you are close to the supposedly released date for BETA3 and Starfish Island still isn't done. Two options available:

 

+ Do the R* delay style and push back release date by half a quarter. Fans complains = ignored, quality is quality, no discussion

+ Do the Modders Moral code and make BETA 2.5 with only SF Island not original model. In other word, BETA3 will become another update, minor or major, up to the team. Everyone wins.

 

No offense, I repeat, NO offense - just my personal-generic opinion

Well...

 

1) We have no release date, just an estimate

2) At the rate things are going, I'd seriously be confused if the top part of Starfish Island required a quarter of a year to be done

3) Again, at the rate things are going, the Map is way ahead of what's planned, it's missions and other stuff that's starting to fall behind, again because we didn't expect map progress to push forward so fast, especially airportN and Haiti, Luten has knocked those out of the park in a pretty fast pace compared to the amount of time it took to do LittleHa, Docks, etc

4) Once that side of the map is done, I'd assume Luten and CP would move onto Vehicles, Peds, etc, MAYBE if they wanted to and we still had time, knock out Prawn Island just so we could have the correct LODS for it whilst you guy play around Downtown

5) "Modders Moral code" I've not seen this before, i've seen plenty of mods get delayed or only announced dates when things are final

[RonBWL]

 

1) We have no release date, just an estimate

2) At the rate things are going, I'd seriously be confused if the top part of Starfish Island required a quarter of a year to be done 

3) Again, at the rate things are going, the Map is way ahead of what's planned, it's missions and other stuff that's starting to fall behind, again because we didn't expect map progress to push forward so fast, especially airportN and Haiti, Luten has knocked those out of the park in a pretty fast pace compared to the amount of time it took to do LittleHa, Docks, etc

4) Once that side of the map is done, I'd assume Luten and CP would move onto Vehicles, Peds, etc, MAYBE if they wanted to and we still had time, knock out Prawn Island just so we could have the correct LODS for it whilst you guy play around Downtown

5) "Modders Moral code" I've not seen this before, i've seen plenty of mods get delayed or only announced dates when things are final

That's why I said IMAGINING

 

As for 5th, just something I made up comparing to how R* treated us with the recent announcement (GTA V delayed) I take it you guys understand how people feel when waiting for three years but then having to wait another 3 months just because of 5% map not original [and YET that's just half of the map]

[VERSA]

I think you guys should convert the entire map and release it, and after that start to make missions and other stuff. Who knows how long mission and other stuff will take time to make? years? there is no guarantees that you will make them all, it's more likely that you will never make them all, but you definetely can convert the entire map and make fixes and this what's more important to release, because if all of you decide to leave this project in one day, it will mean that we will not have the antire map and all missions, but if you will make the entire map, so at least community will have it and maybe someone will finish the rest.

The same thing was with VCR - devs left the project and we have nothing but imperfection, but if they at least would have finished the map it would be quite enough to enjoy.

[Ash_735]

I think you guys should convert the entire map and release it, and after that start to make missions and other stuff. Who knows how long mission and other stuff will take time to make? years? there is no guarantees that you will make them all, it's more likely that you will never make them all, but you definetely can convert the entire map and make fixes and this what's more important to release, because if all of you decide to leave this project in one day, it will mean that we will not have the antire map and all missions, but if you will make the entire map, so at least community will have it and maybe someone will finish the rest.

The same thing was with VCR - devs left the project and we have nothing but imperfection, but if they at least would have finished the map it would be quite enough to enjoy.

But we just don't want to focus on the map, that's one area, and would be quite hypocritical of us as, well, I've said in the past that a downside to a lot of the RAGE mods is that all you have is the map, and once you've had a couple of playthrough on that, there's not much else to do, which is why we want to port the game as best we can, we know what's difficult, stuff like Empire, etc, that's the annoying stuff, but a good chunk of actual missions can work out here, especially storyline stuff, which is why we want to bring you that, along with side missions, etc.

 

Besides, let's say we DO go with your option, what would me and Silent do? We're not working on the map (well I'm bug testing the map) but, speaking for myself, I don't really have any modeling skills, I've worked on the outskirt stuff, timecyc, textures, menu stuff, etc, we'd have nothing to do really if it was just focused on map and map alone.

[VERSA]

 

Besides, let's say we DO go with your option, what would me and Silent do? We're not working on the map (well I'm bug testing the map) but, speaking for myself, I don't really have any modeling skills, I've worked on the outskirt stuff, timecyc, textures, menu stuff, etc, we'd have nothing to do really if it was just focused on map and map alone. 

So do what you can do and able to finish I just wanna say that after beta 3 release keep doing the map and after you finish it release it as beta 3.5, because there is no guarantees that beta 4 will be ever released.

[MrMateczko]

JUST SHUT UP AND WAIT! Gosh, can't stand all those noobs that aren't patient enough.

[VERSA]

JUST SHUT UP AND WAIT! Gosh, can't stand all those noobs that aren't patient enough.

Hey "smart guy", did I say something about "do it faster"? huh? I discussed about what can be after beta 3 release! I have this right and I was like to know devs opinion

[Gummy]

JUST SHUT UP AND WAIT! Gosh, can't stand all those noobs that aren't patient enough.

I know

deep....

in your heart....

You aren't patient too and crazily wanting BETA 3 to come out now.