Other cities and places besides Vice City that wouldn't work in a modern setting?

[GrudgefromSanAndreas]

Ciao a tutti GTAFrutti!

 

It's been repeatedly said Vice City won't work in a modern setting ever since the 2012 interview. I hope it's not the only such US city cause that would suck. So any other US cities that wouldn't work (well or at all) in a modern setting? Or maybe even some outside US? Which cities or places would fit only a specific era or period?

[GTA-Biker]

I don't think modern San Fierro would be particularly interesting.It would work well in the 70s because it could feature Asian gangs like the triads and the yakuza and an event based on the Golden Dragon massacre,and also because in GTA TLAD Angels Of Death were said to be from San Fierro (they are probably still around,but seeing as the 70s were the golden age of biker gangs,that decade would be the perfect setting if they would be getting a prominent appearance).I could be wrong,but I don't think anything interesting has been going on in San Francisco recently,that would make it a good setting for a GTA game set in modern time.

[Nappy]

None, seriously this place thing is outta control. It’ll have a good city with timing for sure. When did Gta have bad of any of them?

[MrBreak16]

3 hours ago, GrudgefromSanAndreas said:

Ciao a tutti GTAFrutti!

 

It's been repeatedly said Vice City won't work in a modern setting ever since the 2012 interview. I hope it's not the only such US city cause that would suck. So any other US cities that wouldn't work (well or at all) in a modern setting? Or maybe even some outside US? Which cities or places would fit only a specific era or period?

Saying that the game wouldn't work because of the time period it's set in is pretty dumb. Any game can work with any setting and any time period. The thing that really matters is the gameplay. 

2 hours ago, GTA-Biker said:

I don't think modern San Fierro would be particularly interesting.It would work well in the 70s because it could feature Asian gangs like the triads and the yakuza and an event based on the Golden Dragon massacre,and also because in GTA TLAD Angels Of Death were said to be from San Fierro (they are probably still around,but seeing as the 70s were the golden age of biker gangs,that decade would be the perfect setting if they would be getting a prominent appearance).I could be wrong,but I don't think anything interesting has been going on in San Francisco recently,that would make it a good setting for a GTA game set in modern time.

Have you heard of Watch Dogs II

Edited March 14, 2020 by MrBreak16

[DexMacLeod]

I don't think there's any specific city that requires a specific era to "work" as a GTA game. The formula is so bare-bones and basic that it can pretty much be applied to any time and any place. It's basically just fetch-quests, car chases, and mindless shoot'em up moments with an over the top crime themed story.  

 

Some places and times might be more appealing to some people than others but I feel like as long as there's cars and criminals, a GTA game can work whenever or wherever.

[Shanki]

I honestly couldn't care less about Miami, modern or 70s/80s/whenever. 90s or early 2000s Liberty City, San Fierro and Las Venturas is where it's at.

[GTA-Biker]

10 hours ago, MrBreak16 said:

Have you heard of Watch Dogs II

Have you played it?Other than both being open world games,there's not that many similarities between Watch Dogs and GTA.In Watch Dogs games you play as vigilante hackers,the gameplay is more focused on stealth and use of gadgets,and the events and characters seem to be fictional,while in GTA games you play as gangsters, hitmen, robbers and other criminals,the gameplay is more focused on driving and shooting,and many events and characters are parodies of events and people from real life or movies/TV shows (what could they parody from modern San Francisco,Fuller House?).It may have worked for Watch Dogs 2 theme, story and gameplay,but I just don't think there's much in modern San Francisco that would make it an interesting setting for a GTA game,at least in comparison with the 70s San Francisco.

Edited March 15, 2020 by GTA-Biker

[Yannerrins]

Seattle. Nowadays it's a hipster city with quiet and simple lifestyle, so i don't think about GTA in this region (except something high-tech related, i suppose...)

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

14 hours ago, GTA-Biker said:

I don't think modern San Fierro would be particularly interesting.It would work well in the 70s because it could feature Asian gangs like the triads and the yakuza and an event based on the Golden Dragon massacre,and also because in GTA TLAD Angels Of Death were said to be from San Fierro (they are probably still around,but seeing as the 70s were the golden age of biker gangs,that decade would be the perfect setting if they would be getting a prominent appearance).I could be wrong,but I don't think anything interesting has been going on in San Francisco recently,that would make it a good setting for a GTA game set in modern time.

SF Bay area in the 70s is my dream GTA. It's like a gold mine of unexplored content. Hell if you want some variety too you could throw in Las Venturas too, it was booming (albiet in a very different way) during the same period.

 

If Rockstar aren't willing to 70s San Francisco a go with a GTA title I could definitely see this being the basis for an LA Noire successor.

[MrBreak16]

6 hours ago, GTA-Biker said:

Have you played it?Other than both being open world games,there's not that many similarities between Watch Dogs and GTA.In Watch Dogs games you play as vigilante hackers,the gameplay is more focused on stealth and use of gadgets,and the events and characters seem to be fictional,while in GTA games you play as gangsters, hitmen, robbers and other criminals,the gameplay is more focused on driving and shooting,and many events and characters are parodies of events and people from real life or movies/TV shows (what could they parody from modern San Francisco,Fuller House?).It may have worked for Watch Dogs 2 theme, story and gameplay,but I just don't think there's much in modern San Francisco that would make it an interesting setting for a GTA game,at least in comparison with the 70s San Francisco.

Yep, but I wasn't comparing it to GTA, I was saying how watch dogs is a good game even tho it's in modern time San Francisco 

[Grotti Vigilante]

While I am inclined to agree that no setting requires a particular time period, some points in history are clearly more suitable than others. Vice City could work in a modern setting, just not as well as it would in the 1980s. Liberty City does work well in a modern setting, but probably not as much as it would do in the 1970s. Las Venturas, in my opinion, could work in any period, but I think any period where the illegal crime families like the Triads or Mafia ran the casinos would work better than a period where the legal crime families known as national corporations run everything instead. Los Santos worked fine in the modern era with GTA V, but I feel like San Andreas did a better job just because of the gang-banging theme and the riots that stemmed from racial tensions and police brutality. Honestly, I think a setting is always made better by the time it is set. So while any city could work for any period, some periods work better than others. 

[Patrizio]

Could it not be argued that lots of places wouldn’t work in modern setting? So many iconic cities famous for their crime are now gentrified beyond belief. It’d be better to have them in era before that happened.

[GTA-Biker]

5 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

SF Bay area in the 70s is my dream GTA. It's like a gold mine of unexplored content. Hell if you want some variety too you could throw in Las Venturas too, it was booming (albiet in a very different way) during the same period.

 

If Rockstar aren't willing to 70s San Francisco a go with a GTA title I could definitely see this being the basis for an LA Noire successor.

Yes,70s San Fierro would be cool to see.They could show a war between Asian gangs, Angels Of Death in their home town during the golden age of biker gangs, have some references to Bullitt (maybe a mission featuring a chase between Ellie and Dukes).Throwing in Las Venturas and the surrounding desert would be cool too,they could show the mob operating the casinos.

 

1 hour ago, MrBreak16 said:

Yep, but I wasn't comparing it to GTA, I was saying how watch dogs is a good game even tho it's in modern time San Francisco 

It is a good game,but this is a thread about which setting would or wouldn't work for GTA,and I don't think modern San Francisco would be interesting for a GTA game.

[DexMacLeod]

I don't think what a city's criminal element is like in real life has any real bearing on its GTA counterpart. Whether it's been gentrified in real life or they're recreating it when it was in its "heyday" no city ever has, and hopefully ever will, have GTA level crime. That's never really accurately represented.

 

Even Vice City and San Andreas weren't accurate representations of those cities and times. They were Rockstar's over-the-top interpretation of pop-culture's already heavily dramatized interpretation. 

Edited March 15, 2020 by DexMacLeod
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[Mister Pink]

I think any city can work in a GTA. It's what Rockstar does with that city that counts. And I'm sure a current Miami might be a nice backdrop for some game, just not for me. 3 modern GTA's isn't enough backdrop that is escapist or original enough for me. I know that sounds a bit pretentious of me but I do miss period-set GTA's like Vice City (2002) and San Andres (2004)

 

I've said plenty, give me a new city (preferably on that hasn't been done not just by Rockstar but by any dev) and an original time-setting other than the present and I'll be happy. 

[Gtaman_92]

A modern day San Fierro would be pretty boring imo. It will work pretty fine in the 70’s or 80’s though.

[ventogt]

On 3/15/2020 at 6:28 AM, GTA-Biker said:

Have you played it?Other than both being open world games,there's not that many similarities between Watch Dogs and GTA.In Watch Dogs games you play as vigilante hackers,the gameplay is more focused on stealth and use of gadgets,and the events and characters seem to be fictional,while in GTA games you play as gangsters, hitmen, robbers and other criminals,the gameplay is more focused on driving and shooting,and many events and characters are parodies of events and people from real life or movies/TV shows (what could they parody from modern San Francisco,Fuller House?).It may have worked for Watch Dogs 2 theme, story and gameplay,but I just don't think there's much in modern San Francisco that would make it an interesting setting for a GTA game,at least in comparison with the 70s San Francisco.

If your character plays a cop who has to pick up human feces and used needles all across the city, or a businessman who has to get to the office without being assaulted by hobos, modern SF would be a perfect city to set the game in

[xPsyKho_]

 Las Venturas. I love LV and it's my favorite city to free roam in San Andreas and i've always wanted to visit Las Vegas irl but it wouldn't have much going for it now that wasn't already covered in GTA SA and GTA 5 a dozen times like robbing banks and hitting up casinos, especially since the golden years of the 70s/80s Mafia dominance are long gone. 

Edited March 16, 2020 by Arktic-Arkade

[Copcaller]

I think a modern day vice city could work if you were to do like San Andreas and add additional cities in Florida to explore and maybe add some carribean smuggling missions.

[MrBreak16]

12 hours ago, Copcaller said:

I think a modern day vice city could work if you were to do like San Andreas and add additional cities in Florida to explore and maybe add some carribean smuggling missions.

That sounds just like that South Florida concept I had in mind. It basically consist of a highly detailed representation of South Florida, from the the Florida Keys all the way up to Cottonmouth (Tampa) and Lake Okeechobee. 

[Zello]

Seattle in 1994-1998. The 90s was when it was at it's peak. Grunge, crime, and rain.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 20, 2020 by Zello