Niobium Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 i think CJ has more character development than franklin, even if he isn't well-written at times. FanEu7, Jeansowaty, Yinepi and 3 others 6 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071174600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasdana21 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Just my own opinion. 1. Claude 2. Tommy Vercetti 3. Carl Johnson 4. Niko Bellic 5. Johnny Klebitz 6. Victor Vance 7. Toni Cipriani 8. Michael De Santa 9. Franklin Clinton 10. Luis Lopez 11. Trevor Phillips Maybe I'd edit this to explain my reasons why. .Ryan., Ahmedmfroezspeed and MyNameIsNotImportantBro 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071190265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmedmfroezspeed Posted April 30, 2020 Author Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 10:21 AM, Prasdana21 said: Just my own opinion. 1. Claude 2. Tommy Vercetti 3. Carl Johnson 4. Niko Bellic 5. Johnny Klebitz 6. Victor Vance 7. Toni Cipriani 8. Michael De Santa 9. Franklin Clinton 10. Luis Lopez 11. Trevor Phillips Maybe I'd edit this to explain my reasons why. finally someone who has Claude as #1 someone who kinda has the same mind as mine, finally Prasdana21 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071194147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameIsNotImportantBro Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 If a San Andreas fanboy saw Cj is lower than Toni he will be like. "Wait, That's illegal" Ahmedmfroezspeed 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071196181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasdana21 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 On 4/30/2020 at 7:52 AM, Ahmedmfroezspeed said: finally someone who has Claude as #1 someone who kinda has the same mind as mine, finally Haha thank you. He was the first GTA protagonist that I played as xD Ahmedmfroezspeed 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071196312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limefong Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 12) Vic Vance 11) Toni Cipriani 10) Huang Lee 9) Michael De Santa 8) Jonny Klebitz 7) Claude 6) Luis Lopez 5) Trevor 4) Tommy Vercetti 3) Franklin 2) CJ 1) Niko Edited May 17, 2020 by Limefong .Ryan. 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071214935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmedmfroezspeed Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) alright, i had to renew my list again this is the new version of my list you are going to see some spots have changed,and the rest remained the same, the Craiterias are the same, with the addition of 4 more Craitrias the new Craiterias 1- how good his voice actor is 2- how much effort Rockstar put in the character, like Stunt performing,etc 3- how cool his outfits are and 4 which is a big one that plays like 65% of a role in my ranking and i forgot to mention it 4- how much times he gets laid, the less,the higher he becomes and the two at #13 and #12 are thw worst of all and the ones at #11 and #10 are in the middle and from #9 to #6 are protagonists i like and from #5 to #1,these are protagonists that are my favorite and both the ones at the top keep changing continuously when i look at the one at the #1 spot, i say this is my favorite and when i look at the other one, i say,no, this is my favorite and they just keep changing good ? alright now let's move on to the ranking #13- and yes, this one didn't change #13- Luis Lopez- GTA The Ballad of Gay Tony now you understand my hate for him,right ? don't try to convince me that he's not a douchebag that does anything for sex no,i'm immune to convenience,my mind never changes instead of trying to correct me,however, try to tell me about his moments of psychopathy this might make me put him higher than CJ both Luis and CJ are the protagonists with the least moments of psychopathy that's why they're very low on this list In other words, he's an a**hole But not in the fun Trevor Phillips way I'd rate him 0/5 stars #12- C.J.- GTA San Andreas i f*cking HATE this asshole he's overrated, and he's a f*cking pussy/coward he has a few moments of psychopathy,that's why he's a bit higher than Luis but not way higher they don't even deserve that kind of love... I'm not Racist, he is just less "badass"ic than the other protagonists we got used to like Claude and Tommy, and one of the problems with this guy is that he feels renorse... like all the time He doesn't even have rampages Another problem with this guy is that he's another kind of douche bag that would say ABSOLUTELY anything to get his d*ck wet Like "spit it out, filthy worm", oh man I hate this guy Even if he did deliver one idiotic line that ended up making me laugh "EHHAHAHAHAAA, man those are pretty strong drawers...", But compared to Luis, CJ is way better if you ask me, at least he has a psychopathic side like when he killed the construction site workers and buried an engineer alive in concrete, plus he could have killed Tenpenny and his officers from the beginning, plus he could have killed them when he met them in las Venturaas, I mean dude you have weapons already, and you've unlocked all the islands why don't you just shoot them in the head and escape? This is the GTA dimension, not real life you idiot... egh, what do I know...? For me, I rate him 0.5/5 stars #11- Huang Lee- GTA Chinatown Wars What makes him better than CJ here is that he has les capability of remorse, and he's pretty psychopathic if you ask me I'd give him 1.5/5 stars Edit: how is he still living in China after that Corona Virus... ? #10- Mike- GTA Advance What makes him pretty high on this list is that he is very loyal, and probably the most Loyal protagonist in this series, hell he's even more Loyal than Cipriani, and what proves that is that if his mission Boss got killed, he would do everything in his power to know the killer and kill him as revenge for his boss' death Pretty loyal if you ask me he's the kind of person you'd really want to have as a friend... He's not bad at all I give him 2.5/5 stars, not bad... _________________________________________________________________ #9- Franklin Clinton- GTA V this is the new and enhanced CJ Franklin is just better than CJ...Much Better... What makes Clinton better than Johnson here is that he's a badass A Sociopath, he might feel remorse From time to time, and I don't blame him for that, but not ALL THE TIME like CJ Plus, he has rampages Definitely better than CJ here Rating: 2.75/5 #8- Michael De Santa- GTA V originally,Michael wa at #7. but i had to re position the V protagonists again What makes him better than Franklin though is that he has an interesting backstory, he had an alcoholic father that abused him and later left him, his environment was rough, he got prisoned twice, He suddenly had a family Man, pretty dope edit: it's no strange that a hypocrite can come out of this unhealthy environment... Rating: 2.9/5 stars #7- Trevor Phillips- GTA V originally, Trevor was at #6, but i switched his place with Johnny and now, i changed him to #7 for a reason, i asked myself 3 questions ain't Johnny much more basassic than Trevor Yea ain't Johnny's gang better than Trevor maybe is Trevor reading my ranking of him ? Hell Nah,brothers, that's why i changed them both What makes him better than mikey and Frank that his backstory is even more interesting than Mikey He has been abused in childhood, his father abandoned him, he wasn't accepted for working in flight, he had to kill his brother, and etc, and he's even more interesting in GTA 5, he's enjoyable, he's brutal and harsh as F*ck, his abilities, he kinda doesn't feel remorse, good job, Rockstar I'd give him 2.95/5 stars #6- Johnny Klebitz- GTA The Lost And Damned just like Trevor, he was originally at #9 but i already told you the reason why i switched them both... Klebitz is a psychopathic killer, a biker who cares about his family and friends, in other words, the biker version of Tommy Vercetti only much more humanized Rating:3/5 stars ________________________________________________________________ #5- -prepare your bullets,everybody- #5- Niko Bellic- GTA IV what made him 1 spot lower than original is because when i read the lists of other users on this topic i noticed that 99% of them have Niko Bellic as #1 which annoyed me..., and what annoyed me even more,is that what's common between Niko Bellic's praising lists, all of them put Toni and Claude in the bottom ik he's appealing, yes,but why this much of love for him ? you just sh*t on the rest because the have no charm,charisma,or wit f*ck Charm,f*ck Charisma,and f*ck Wit and here's a little note: if i ever see anyone Putting Niko in the top and sh*tting on Toni Cipriani, Niko will be lower ranking 3.25/5 stars #4- Vic Vance- GTA Vice City Stories originally,Vic was at #5, but because of you all overrating Niko, i swapped them both,happy now ? What makes Vic better than Franklin here, and way better than CJ here is that he's a leader, he cares about everybody around him more than himself he's loyal and reliable, he has his own gang and drug empire, he gets money everyday, man he's f*cking cool He could have been on the #1 spot, but only if the protagonists in the 4th, 3rd, 2nd, and 1st spot didn't make it in this series, ranking:3.5/5 stars #3- Tommy Vercetti- GTA Vice City another great protagonist here, just like Niko but what makes him better exactly ? Well he's more "badass"ic and psychopathic, he has his own organisation and gang, he had brutal kills, man he was just perfect, Is he missing something? Yes, sadism, he's psychopathic, but not that psychopathic compared to Toni Cipriani, I mean he's not sadistic when you compare him to Toni, and come to think of it, he never said that he likes seeing everyone around him suffer in pain, and he's not disloyal like Claude...,, nor a hypocrite like Michael... he was great, but needed more psychopathy, that's why he's on my third spot And Toni on the second spot Tommy is just a psychopathic schizophrenic with hunger and lust for power Rating is 4/5 stars #2- Claude- GTA 3 before,Claude was always my #1 until this moment came i was like: nah, man, let's put Toni in the Top and switch their places i actually like Claude, but his Coolness with Toni is a challenge sometimes Claude wins,and Sometimes Toni wins rating: 4.5/5 stars so #2- Claude #1- Toni Cipriani- GTA Liberty City Stories the Best Protagonist in the series so far this is the protagonist that personifies me the most, out of all the GTA Protagonists Loyal, and Trustworthy, but Very short tempered he's in the best gang in the franchise, the Leones he is the protagonist with the best outfits in the series by far everything was cool about him He's just Tommy Vercetti only with way more sadism and way less mercy, unlike Tommy, Toni is sadistic, I mean think of it, whenever he slaughters anybody he always chooses the most painful.Cruel, sadistic, and yet brutal way to do it Look at giovanni casa for example That dude was killed by cipriani by a fire axe, his corpse got chopped up, the chops were put in the grinder, and the corpse meat was delivered to casa's delli, and the attack on fort staunton that killed over a hundred, and probably over a thousand, That's why Toni's better than Tommy rating: 5/5 stars ,perfecto like my new list ? Edited May 29, 2020 by Ahmedmfroezspeed enhancements... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinepi Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Many people say they like a talking protagonist, or that they prefer human qualities. I'm the opposite. I like the quiet and sophisticated appeal of Claude and the 2D era protagonists. You never knew what they were thinking, which added a sense of mystery to them. All you really know is that they're dangerous. Sure, Trevor is dangerous but the second he opens his mouth he feels less threatening than someone who simply never speaks, never yells. Only grunts when in pain. If I were having a gun pointed at me by someone who is yelling at me or someone who looks at me with a blank stare, I'd be more inclined to give my money to the silent one. Edited May 18, 2020 by Yinepi Ahmedmfroezspeed 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Yinepi said: Many people say they like a talking protagonist, or that they prefer human qualities. I'm the opposite. I like the quiet and sophisticated appeal of Claude and the 2D era protagonists. You never knew what they were thinking, which added a sense of mystery to them. All you really know is that they're dangerous. Sure, Trevor is dangerous but the second he opens his mouth he feels less threatening than someone who simply never speaks, never yells. Only grunts when in pain. If I were having a gun pointed at me by someone who is yelling at me or someone who looks at me with a blank stare, I'd be more inclined to give my money to the silent one. I agree it adds a sense of mystique, but it also limits the kind of stories that R* can tell. I remember some time back someone said in other another thread (can't remember who) that Vice City could've worked if Tommy never spoke, but I kind of just rolled my eyes. I've been vocal about this before, but I feel R* made somewhat of a mistake trying to give Claude more of a backstory when he made a cameo in San Andreas. Of course he still doesn't speak and he lets his actions do the talking, but it doesn't make him as "mysterious" as GTA III. It's a bit like how Rob Zombie's Halloween movies try to give Michael Myers more of a backstory by explaining that he's evil because he had a tough upbringing yet in the original he's evil for the sake of being evil. No one knows why he is, but he is anyway which made him more terrifying IMO. I even think giving Claude a name robs some of his mystique also. I don't know about anyone else, but I thought it was more bad arse when he was only known as "The GTA III guy" or "Fido". We didn't know who this guy was who or what his name was. All we knew was he'd wreck your sh*t up. I think Claude's caught up in a bit of a strange limbo because the original idea behind him was to be an avatar and let the player inject any sort of personality they wanted hence why he was never referred to by name and there was even going to be the ability to let us make our own names for him, but it was removed before the game's release however when people started speculating that he might've been Claude Speed from GTA 2 R* tried making him more of a "character" if you get what I mean thus contradicting a large part of his original intention. @Ahmedmfroezspeed So the only reason you have Niko lower is you don't like people favouring him over your favourite protagonists? Unless I'm missing something, but that's honestly stupid and well kind of childish. People have already explained why they like Niko. I don't know where the mystery lies at all. Of course you don't have to like him (each to their own), but I would think someone would pick a genuine reason other than being annoyed he's liked by others. Yinepi and Lord Criminal 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmedmfroezspeed Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) On 5/19/2020 at 2:08 AM, Algonquin Assassin said: @Ahmedmfroezspeed So the only reason you have Niko lower is you don't like people favouring him over your favourite protagonists? Unless I'm missing something, but that's honestly stupid and well kind of childish. People have already explained why they like Niko. I don't know where the mystery lies at all. Of course you don't have to like him (each to their own), but I would think someone would pick a genuine reason other than being annoyed he's liked by others. yeah,it's so annoying to see your favorite protagonists being sh*tted on just because they have no charm,Charima,or wit well, f*ck these 3 characteristics, i'm only interested in how high their psychopathy'o' meter is and how low their getting laid'o'meter is,not their charisma or charm Edited May 22, 2020 by Ahmedmfroezspeed Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ahmedmfroezspeed said: yeah,it's so annoying to see your favorite protagonists being sh*tted on just because they have no charm,Charima,or wit well, f*ck these 3 characteristics, i'm only interested in their psychopathy level,not their charisma or charm I have to ask because who's even doing that? I've looked over this thread several times and I don't see anyone "taking a sh*t" on Claude or Toni for lacking charm, charisma or wit nor have I in other similar threads. Even if that were true that's still a pretty poor reason to relegate Niko on the basis people have him as their favourite as it gives the impression you can't handle opposing opinions. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmedmfroezspeed Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said: I have to ask because who's even doing that? I've looked over this thread several times and I don't see anyone "taking a sh*t" on Claude or Toni for lacking charm, charisma or wit nor have I in other similar threads. Even if that were true that's still a pretty poor reason to relegate Niko on the basis people have him as their favourite as it gives the impression you can't handle opposing opinions. it's been 12 f*cking years since the release of GTA IV and since then, almost all the Lists had Niko Bellic as #1 and still, we've seen nothing new about a protagonist as #1 whenever there's a ranking protagonists list there is a 99% chance that Niko would be #1 and 99% chance to see Claude and Toni taken a sh*t from that list edit: it's almost like people are racist towards these two my point is, Niko Bellic's praising lists are so so so mega annoying Edited May 19, 2020 by Ahmedmfroezspeed Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Ahmedmfroezspeed said: it's been 12 f*cking years since the release of GTA IV and since then, almost all the Lists had Niko Bellic as #1 and still, we've seen nothing new about a protagonist as #1 whenever there's a ranking protagonists list there is a 99% chance that Niko would be #1 and 99% chance to see Claude and Toni taken a sh*t from that list my point is, Niko Bellic's praising lists are so so so mega annoying Ever think there's a good reason for that? Sorry, but all you're doing is proving my exact point. Maybe some people just don't like Claude and Toni? I mean Claude as I said is basically just an avatar and I get how this may not be appealing to some people who are more interested in characters with actual depth and personality and I don't know, but Toni just seemed uninspired to me. I liked him more as a side character in GTA III, but there's nothing that stands out about him in LCS so I can understand how for others that might feel the same way too. But if you love them then go nuts as far as I'm concerned, but being annoyed because Niko's so popular (and for good reason I might add) surely isn't the best way to go about things Jeansowaty, billiejoearmstrong8 and Lord Criminal 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071216182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmedmfroezspeed Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 2:08 AM, Algonquin Assassin said: It's a bit like how Rob Zombie's Halloween movies try to give Michael Myers more of a backstory by explaining that he's evil because he had a tough upbringing yet in the original he's evil for the sake of being evil. No one knows why he is, but he is anyway which made him more terrifying IMO. Rob Zombie was an imbecile...who loved the Halloween remake anyway ? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071221600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 This is my preference. 11. The Worst: Trevor 10. Franklin 9. Carl 8. Toni 7. Victor 6. Luis 5. Claude 4. Michael 3. Tommy 2. Johnny 1. The Best: Niko .Ryan. and Niobium 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071221661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limefong Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I have decided to rewrite my list Worst character Mike: 0.25/10 OK characters Toni Cipriani: 2.25/10 Huang Lee: 2.75/10 Michael De Santa: 3.25/10 Good characters Claude: 4.5/10 Luis Lopez: 5/10 Great characters Trevor Phillips: 6.25/10 Vic Vance: 6.75/10 (I have played most missions of VCs and he wasn't that bad at all) Johnny Klebitz: 7.5/10 Best characters Franklin: 8.25/10 CJ: 9/10 Tommy Vercetti: 9.5/10 Niko Bellic: 10/10, Please don't be mad over me putting him on the top MyNameIsNotImportantBro, .Ryan. and Ahmedmfroezspeed 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071227898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmedmfroezspeed Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Limefong said: I have decided to rewrite my list Worst character Mike: 0.25/10 wait, he's an extremely loyal guy and would seek revenge for you if you got killed Jeansowaty and Dr Busta 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071228034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schachmatt777 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I only played four games myself, because I never had and don't intend to obtain any console. Though I watched all remaining but the 2D games as walkthroughs on Youtube, and maybe one day I will even do a GTA III run myself, as it's the only GTA PC game I haven't played as of yet. But watching someone/something is entirely different than playing it myself, so I won't judge these characters. The remaining 8 characters, from best to worst IMO: 1. Michael de Santa 2. Carl Johnson 3. Trevor Phillips 4. Johnny Klebitz 5. Thommy Vercetti 6. Franklin Clinton 7. Louis Lopez 8. Niko Bellic I don't hate (or worship ;)) any of these characters btw and would play any of these characters at any day, I think that all of them have their strenghts and weaknesses, as all of them has their unique charm. I can relate to Michael more than to the other characters, and can't warm up to Niko the same way due to certain reasons. But at the end of the day, I enjoyed and still enjoyplaying each of them. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071228105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinepi Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 (edited) I tend to not like Niko because I find him annoying. His accent it is all over the place in an very irritating manner. He has a way of speaking that is like nails on chalkboard. One minute he is speaking in a very forced way that makes him sound unnatural, then after 10 missions he starts to speak like a native English speaker. Which are you? A foreigner with little English, or an American? Edited May 29, 2020 by Yinepi Ahmedmfroezspeed 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071228737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheatz/Trickz Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 16 hours ago, Yinepi said: I tend to not like Niko because I find him annoying. His accent it is all over the place in an very irritating manner. He has a way of speaking that is like nails on chalkboard. One minute he is speaking in a very forced way that makes him sound unnatural, then after 10 missions he starts to speak like a native English speaker. Which are you? A foreigner with little English, or an American? I mean I don’t agree with your point at all (your criticisms are not related to his character or actions i.e. I can’t stand Franklin’s ghetto speak but I wouldn’t criticize him for it) but I gotta agree with the language thing. Niko’s English is superb, yet he constantly says it’s bad. His accent is consistent though, he never once sounds American at all. .Ryan. 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071229298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo256 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Cheatz/Trickz said: Niko’s English is superb, yet he constantly says it’s bad. In his conversation with Bruice (first friend hang out if I'm right) where he is talking something about the "beast inside him", Niko does ask him to repeat because his "English is not so good". Unless he was using that as an excuse to tell Bruice to stop speaking nonsense, I think Niko has difficulty understanding when English words are used more figuratively. But as a means of communication, I agree, his English is superb. Cheatz/Trickz and .Ryan. 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071229400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheatz/Trickz Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Ryo256 said: In his conversation with Bruice (first friend hang out if I'm right) where he is talking something about the "beast inside him", Niko does ask him to repeat because his "English is not so good". Unless he was using that as an excuse to tell Bruice to stop speaking nonsense, I think Niko has difficulty understanding when English words are used more figuratively. But as a means of communication, I agree, his English is superb. Lol, during Harbouring A Grudge when he and Packie go to the fish market, Packie is talking about the dodgy dealings going on there and says something smells fishy about the whole thing. Niko responds with a bemused “the fish market smells fishy?” Ryo256, String and .Ryan. 2 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071229479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Cheatz/Trickz said: I mean I don’t agree with your point at all (your criticisms are not related to his character or actions i.e. I can’t stand Franklin’s ghetto speak but I wouldn’t criticize him for it) but I gotta agree with the language thing. Niko’s English is superb, yet he constantly says it’s bad. His accent is consistent though, he never once sounds American at all. Yeah. I don't see how he sounds American either. It's obvious though as the more time that passes Hollick got more and more comfortable speaking with an accent, but it's really difficult to tell he's American and from Brooklyn specifically. At the start I think Niko just has difficulty understanding certain terminology/slang and this is what he means by his English not being so good. A bit like how some Americans probably wouldn't get Australian terminology/slang and vice versa. Niko's ability to speak in English is fine, but since he's not accustomed to American culture it takes him some time to get familiar with it. Lets also remember that GTA IV's only a video game that lasts on average 40 hours. In real life it would probably take someone months or years even, but I guess they had to fast track it somewhat because it's a video game. Anyway atleast it feels believable and he probably wouldn't get it when someone says "something smells fishy". Another example from the same mission is when Packie says "meds" and Niko's not sure what he means. Ahmedmfroezspeed, billiejoearmstrong8, Cheatz/Trickz and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071229796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheatz/Trickz Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said: Yeah. I don't see how he sounds American either. It's obvious though as the more time that passes Hollick got more and more comfortable speaking with an accent, but it's really difficult to tell he's American and from Brooklyn specifically. At the start I think Niko just has difficulty understanding certain terminology/slang and this is what he means by his English not being so good. A bit like how some Americans probably wouldn't get Australian terminology/slang and vice versa. Niko's ability to speak in English is fine, but since he's not accustomed to American culture it takes him some time to get familiar with it. Lets also remember that GTA IV's only a video game that lasts on average 40 hours. In real life it would probably take someone months or years even, but I guess they had to fast track it somewhat because it's a video game. Anyway atleast it feels believable and he probably wouldn't get it when someone says "something smells fishy". Another example from the same mission is when Packie says "meds" and Niko's not sure what he means. I’ve heard it suggested that he gradually becomes more fluent as the missions go on, as if he’s picking up the language more. I like that he doesn’t understand those kinds of abbreviations. I’m trying to recall some others because i’m sure there are other occasions. I know early on with Vlad, he doesn’t understand when Vlad says he’ll let him “take the sh*t, mickey about”. Another one I remember is when you cancel a date he says “We will have to check the rain” lol Ryo256, .Ryan. and Lord Criminal 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071229811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan. Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 28 minutes ago, Cheatz/Trickz said: I like that he doesn’t understand those kinds of abbreviations. I’m trying to recall some others because i’m sure there are other occasions. I know early on with Vlad, he doesn’t understand when Vlad says he’ll let him “take the sh*t, mickey about”. Another one I remember is when you cancel a date he says “We will have to check the rain” lol How about when PBX tries to describe Marlon in "Photo Shoot"? Actually even I struggle to understand ghetto/street talk so I can understand how this would be confusing for Niko and of course the infamous scene when Badman's talking and Niko literally has the "WTF are you even saying?" on his face lol. Considering the amount of people he encounters from a range of different backgrounds/cultures etc more than the average person would it's probably no wonder he has difficultly understanding certain things people say whilst he's developing his own grasp of the English language. Ryo256, Niobium, Cheatz/Trickz and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071229831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) On 5/31/2020 at 2:45 AM, Algonquin Assassin said: How about when PBX tries to describe Marlon in "Photo Shoot"? Actually even I struggle to understand ghetto/street talk so I can understand how this would be confusing for Niko and of course the infamous scene when Badman's talking and Niko literally has the "WTF are you even saying?" on his face lol. Considering the amount of people he encounters from a range of different backgrounds/cultures etc more than the average person would it's probably no wonder he has difficultly understanding certain things people say whilst he's developing his own grasp of the English language. My favourite slight language issue is when he says "I know how to go on the line" And then there's Little Jacob who Niko can understand perfectly simply because they vibe together so well lol I agree they did the whole not being totally familiar with English thing well, considering the restraints of a video game setting. Falling back into Serbian when talking to Roman quite often when he first arrives and a little bit of getting more accustomed to English. And just the subtle unfamiliarities with certain turns of phrase. And even though I'm aware the accent isn't really that accurate I think it still sounds very consistent and pleasant to listen to, it might not be authentically Serbian sounding but it certainly never sounds American and to my non expert ears I never don't buy that he's from Eastern Europe. Not to mention the high quality of the voice acting in general besides just the accent, he put across such a range of emotion and a compelling performance. Edited June 3, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8 .Ryan. 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071234160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Busta Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 3/13/2020 at 11:14 AM, Ahmedmfroezspeed said: problems with this guy is that he feels renorse... like all the time He doesn't even have rampages Because he already has gangwars which are literally rampages but with waves Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071453551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 1. Vic 2. Niko 3. CJ 4. Tommy 5. Huang 6. Michael 7. Johnny 8. Trevor 9. Luis 10. Claude 11. Franklin 12. Toni Edited January 14, 2021 by OH76 Forgot to add Huang... Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071453552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanEu7 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1. Niko Bellic 2. Tommy Vercetti 3. Michael De Santa 4. CJ 5. Trevor Phillips 6. Johnny Klebitz 7. Franklin Clinton 8. Luis Lopez 9. Victor Vance 10. Toni Cipriani 11. Claude Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071453558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Busta Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 1- CJ How can someone look at this face and not say "This Is Art" Seriously I like him because he's different and more relatable he's not a badass but he has his moments and he received the most character development (except if you chose sparing Darko and deal for Niko this way you feel like he's really trying to change) and CJ is also funny and I like how he pays respect to everyone and makes the right connections and this is the only absent trip where the protagonist doesn't have most of the things offered to him which makes it more interesting 2- Niko bellic I don't think this needs to be explained Niko is badass and a bit human at the same time which makes him unique Also a lot of people try to deny this because ah Niko is always a good guy but the greatest thing about Niko is how he turned into the thing he was fighting against an even became worse without noticing reminds me of batman when he admits that he's physcotic criminal and loses it 3-Tommy Vercetti Hands down the biggest badass in the series the only one who does everything for himself and doesn't take sh*t from others and everytime I play the game I feel like the world is mine 4- Vic Vance Vic is a mix of all of the three above but I see him as CJ if he was more badass and had charisma or a perfect mix between Niko and CJ I like how rockstar managed to pull a fully badass guy and fully human at the same time and his anger issues makes him more relatable unlike Tommy who was smart most the time Victor is always angry I mean compare their similar scenes together like meeting Umberto Tommy made one of the greatest and smartest lines in the series when Umberto made fun of him meanwhile Vic pulled a gun and was about to blow his f*cking face 5- Luis Lopez He's a bit bland because there is no reason for him to be involved in all of this but when I play the game I think that he developed a father/son relationship with Tony prince and that's why he won't leave his back but I like how cool he's and how I get engaged playing as him even though I don't like commiting too much crimes playing as him and prefer to live the night life 6- Michael I like Michael and his chemistry with his family . He wanted to provide them a better life but it turned them into assholes and he's an asshole they call him that I feel bad for him but he's an asshole and deserves to be hated by them but they're also assholes it's a who created who thing 7- Johnny Klebtez Well this guy's place changed a lot for me and the reason is the guy under hum right now but I used to hate Trevor and like Johnny then the opposite and it kept changing until both became very low on my list 8- Trevor I like his idea and the Comic relief funny protagonist He gets on my nerves sometimes but I can handle it 9- Claude He does his role pretty well making me feel like a thug but not interesting except if I made him interesting 10- Franklin He's CJ just lonely and more pacifist 11- Toni Hey I will do random favors for half of liberty city for no real reason Edit: oops I forgot Huang just put him somewhere with Johnny and Trevor Edited January 14, 2021 by DR:BUSTA Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/949633-gta-protagonists-ranked-from-worst-to-best/page/3/#findComment-1071453561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now