The Coronavirus Thread

[JON22]

Apparently Neanderthal genes increases risk of severe coronavirus. Also saw this on reddit taking the piss :

 

'Some Neanderthal somewhere: “guys look, we’re out numbered, out gunned, and they’re smarter than us, but we have a secret weapon, chromosome 3. They’re going to kill us anyways, let’s lay with them. Let’s infect them with our biological weapon. We may have a chance to defeat them after all!”

60,000 years later: A lone Neanderthal dies in his cave, knowing the prophecy has finally been fulfilled. His last cave drawing: the homosapiens have finally fallen. They created fire. Tools to hunt, tools to make cars, boats, planes. They created enough weapons to annihilate the planet. They’ve mastered this planet and even went to the moon. They conquered nearly every disease that threatened them. But what brought them down? An unwillingness by some factions to wear facial coverings to protect their fellow humans. They were truly a remarkable species, blinded by selfishness, money, and power.

While a feel some sadness, I remember they killed everything I love, my wife, my Manny, my battle cat.. my rage never subsided and I take solace in knowing our plan finally came to fruition. So know brothers, our battle is finally over. Sleep in peace tonight. I leave this earth better than we found it. Perhaps our species will meet again in the future and live in harmony, but I fear there is nothing to be gained by allying with them.

But for now, be safe world, it’s yours again, the pain is over. Thank you for everything you’ve done for me and the opportunities for my kind. I wish it could’ve been different but perhaps this is best for both of us. I’ll miss you. Ooga-booga'

[Arrows to Athens]

22 hours ago, PicklePrick said:

I have had flu like symptoms since 2 days ago, I have been checking my temperature frequently and 2 nights ago it gave me a reading of 37.5 which astonished me, I checked it again today and it gave me a reading of 35.6. I haven't slept properly for 2 nights, now I feel like I can't smell or taste anything effectively, I have notified my best friend as he sadly suffered with the covid 19 dilemma and he advised that I should book a test which I'm going to do tomorrow. I sincerely hope I don't have it.

They say you can get infected twice. I hope I never got it again when we hung out the week before. If I did, I might be asymptomatic this time round. 

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

2 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

They say you can get infected twice. I hope I never got it again when we hung out the week before. If I did, I might be asymptomatic this time round. 

oh is that what experts say now? I thought you can develop to some kind of immunity from it once you get infected and recover man.

I hope you don't get it the 2nd time man.

[Zello]

4 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

They say you can get infected twice. I hope I never got it again when we hung out the week before. If I did, I might be asymptomatic this time round. 

You can get it twice because immunity lasts like 2 months then after that you're f*cked.

[Arrows to Athens]

43 minutes ago, Zello said:

You can get it twice because immunity lasts like 2 months then after that you're f*cked.

They don't know how long it actually lasts. From what I've read, it may last for a few months. Some sources have said around 6 months, while others have said around 3 months. It's already known that people exposed to the related virus SARS1 produced antibodies for at least two years after infection (and in some cases for up to 12 years), but those antibodies became less effective over time.

 

The good thing is, the disease is even milder the second time round. You may not even show any symptoms. They also say that you are more likely to be less infectious.

 

45 minutes ago, PicklePrick said:

oh is that what experts say now? I thought you can develop to some kind of immunity from it once you get infected and recover man.

I hope you don't get it the 2nd time man.

They've been saying it since March, actually. It's like the cold/flu. When you get it once, you can get it again, but it's usually milder after the first infection. Immunity is most likely temporary.

Edited October 9, 2020 by Arrows to Athens

[Shyabang Shyabang]

 

[NaidRaida]

A friend of me is coughing and snotting since some days. Seems it's getting worse. I told him he should rapidly consult a doctor. He refuses my advice completely. What an arrogant asshole was my first thought!

His behavior seems very reckless, especially towards others. He obviously has at least a cold! This would be pretty enough reason for me to see a doctor. I will avoid contact with him, for sure! We go swimming together for example.

I'm very angry about him, because in this situation right now, he seems like to be an absolute reckless idiot. He also refuses masks in public. I usually wear a mask now everytime I leave the house, not only while shopping. With glasses,

this is very annoying but okaaaay, this is no problem for me. I can do it, if doctors say its important. And the internet is FULL of material that a mask does matter. A lot of ppl seem to consume too much conspiracy sh*t. Does Reptilians need

masks? Come on... time for psychiatry I'd recommend for such hardcore bullsh*tters.

 

Am I too harsh with my opinion on him? I don't want some Kung Flu Donnie to be my friend. In terms of health OF OTHERS I do not accept a tradeoff.

Edited October 11, 2020 by NaidRaida

[JON22]

I'm getting more paranoid now. If there's a long queue I put the stuff back on the shelves then leave the shop. I don't want to be around a lot of people all at once. Why can't people social distance? It's piss easy.

Edited October 11, 2020 by JON22

[Arrows to Athens]

16 hours ago, NaidRaida said:

A friend of me is coughing and snotting since some days. Seems it's getting worse. I told him he should rapidly consult a doctor. He refuses my advice completely. What an arrogant asshole was my first thought!

His behavior seems very reckless, especially towards others. He obviously has at least a cold! This would be pretty enough reason for me to see a doctor. I will avoid contact with him, for sure! We go swimming together for example.

I'm very angry about him, because in this situation right now, he seems like to be an absolute reckless idiot. He also refuses masks in public. I usually wear a mask now everytime I leave the house, not only while shopping. With glasses,

this is very annoying but okaaaay, this is no problem for me. I can do it, if doctors say its important. And the internet is FULL of material that a mask does matter. A lot of ppl seem to consume too much conspiracy sh*t. Does Reptilians need

masks? Come on... time for psychiatry I'd recommend for such hardcore bullsh*tters.

 

Am I too harsh with my opinion on him? I don't want some Kung Flu Donnie to be my friend. In terms of health OF OTHERS I do not accept a tradeoff.

A cold is not really a reason to see a doctor. COVID isn't, either (if it's mild). You'll be instructed to stay at home until you recover. The least he can do is get a test, but if he's sneezing and has a stuffy nose, it's most probably a cold (the season is changing), in which case he should be getting some rest anyway. 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Arrows to Athens

[NaidRaida]

^ Your response makes no sense at all to what I said. ? ? Your reply sounds like "running around without mask but cold and no further info is fine". Cause this is my main point in my little story, that such behavior is NOT fine without further info.

 

A cold is not really a reason to see a doctor >>> Yes it is. We have advise of state authority to 1.) Isolate ourselves in case of flu/cold/anyting like that.  2.) Seek for advise and get instructions. He ignores both of this aspects and he use no mask at all in public.

COVID isn't, either (if it's mild). >>> Same as above. Slightest suspicion of Covid here, and you get quarantined straight away for min. 2 weeks. I was quarantined for a week because of very slight sore throat, but it vanished rapidly. Probably bad pot.

You'll be instructed to stay at home until you recover. >>> Yes, but a doctor gives this instruction, this this not upon him to decide when to stay st home. He ignores all instructions/advise.

The least he can do is get a test >>> No. The least he can do is getting official advise how to behave. Therefore: 1.) Isolation (on himself without instruction 2.) Seek for further help and instructions.

it's most probably a cold [...], in which case he should be getting some rest anyway. >>> This is not upon him to decide when he should rest. This is doctors only authority here. It also contradicts your first sentence cold is not really a reason to see a doctor.

Edited October 12, 2020 by NaidRaida

[Arrows to Athens]

1 hour ago, NaidRaida said:

^ Your response makes no sense at all to what I said. ? ?

 

A cold is not really a reason to see a doctor >>> Yes it is. We have advise of state authority to 1.) Isolate ourselves in case of flu/cold/anyting like that.  2.) Seek for advise and get instructions. He ignores both of this aspects and he use no mask at all in public.

COVID isn't, either (if it's mild). >>> Same as above. Slightest suspicion of Covid here, and you get quarantined straight away for min. 2 weeks. I was quarantined for a week because of very slight sore throat, but it vanished rapidly. Probably bad pot.

You'll be instructed to stay at home until you recover. >>> Yes, but a doctor gives this instruction, this this not upon him to decide when to stay st home. He ignores all instructions/advise. Didn't you read what I wrote?

The least he can do is get a test >>> No. The least he can do is getting official advise how to behave. Therefore: 1.) Isolation (on himself without instruction 2.) Seek for further help and instructions.

it's most probably a cold [...], in which case he should be getting some rest anyway. >>> This is not upon him to decide when he should rest. This is doctors only authority here. It also contradicts your first sentence cold is not really a reason to see a doctor.

No, a cold is not a reason to see a doctor unless it's getting worse or it has persisted for more than 10 days. When you have a cold, you get rest and then you recover, generally speaking. Normally, you don't go to a doctor and say "I've got a cold. What do I do?".

 

You don't need to get a doctor's instruction to quarantine. If you suspect you have COVID, you isolate yourself until you have recovered. You don't need to call up a doctor and ask, but you can if you want. It's not a necessity. Your friend, however, can breach this rule if he wants. And since he is, then I don't know. A doctor can't force him to quarantine. 

 

If you are exhibiting symptoms and are afraid it might be COVID, you get a test and stay at home. This is common sense. But, of course, it is up to you to get one. You're not forced to. And if he isn't, then that's on him.

 

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No. The least he can do is getting official advise how to behave.

 

What do you mean "No"? Getting a test is essential in confirming whether or not you have the virus if you're unsure. It think it's time to put down that bad pot. If your friend isn't even wiling to get a test, wear a mask, or self-isolate, then what makes you think he will follow the advice after he's been given it?

 

And again, a doctor can't force someone to isolate themselves or get rest. If they advise they should rest, they can choose not to, like your friend is very clearly doing. So yes, it is up to him to decide if wants to rest. If he doesn't, then he won't rest. Simple.

 

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This is doctors only authority here

Not necessarily. When someone has a cold, it is common sense to get rest and treat yourself. You don't need to get a doctor's advice, depending on the situation. And you don't need some "authority" from the doctor to rest or not. And like I said before, it is up to him to consult a doctor or not. Then again, if one is experiencing COVID-like symptoms, they are encouraged to stay home until they recover and get a test. At least that's how it is in the UK. Consulting a doctor is optional. But of course, you can't physically see a doctor for possible COVID for obvious reasons. 

 

And I still stand by my statement. A cold is certainly not a reason to see doctor unless for the reasons stated above. If COVID is suspected, you can call up a doctor and ask for further advice, but the number one thing should be self-isolation. Obviously, your friend isn't doing any of these things. Now what do you want from me?

Edited October 12, 2020 by Arrows to Athens

[NaidRaida]

1 hour ago, Arrows to Athens said:

Consulting a doctor is optional.

I cannot fully agree with this. You need to clarify for work approval for example. My boss would fire me if I would come to work with a red nose right now. My boss would send me to a doctor, there is no option. This may vary, of course. Would you go to work with a cold right now, without knowing details about your condition? Here we MUST consult a doctor. We cannot give ourselves a sick note (is that the correct word?). But work is not his problem, he is already off work because of broken hand. I mainly criticize his private behavior. I understand your arguments, but wouldn't you agree with me to say, if someone already has a cold he should better stay low and especially he should accept to wear a mask and at least distance himself?

 

Of course he must not follow the basic rules of this but that makes him look arrogant and ignorant, doesn't it? He's some "covid doesn't exist type". I don't credit that. Do you? You wrote you had it yourself, it's obviously no joke and he behaves as if

this whole thing is a joke. And that's why I'm angry about him. I don't consider him as mass murder, lol. I just expect a bit more adult behavior of this up grown man. This is not his planet all alone, but that's his attitude sometimes.

Edited October 12, 2020 by NaidRaida

[Arrows to Athens]

14 minutes ago, NaidRaida said:

I cannot fully agree with this. You need to clarify for work approval for example. My boss would fire me if I would come to work with a red nose right now. My boss would send me to a doctor, there is no option. This may vary, of course. You would go to work with a cold? Here we MUST consult a doctor. We cannot give ourselves a sick note (is that the correct word?). But work is not his problem, he is already off work because of broken hand. I mainly criticize his private behavior. I understand your arguments, but wouldn't you agree with me to say, if someone already has a cold he should better stay low and especially he should accept to wear a mask and at least distance himself?

 

Of course he must not follow the basic rules of this but that makes him look arrogant and ignorant, doesn't it? He's some "covid doesn't exist type". I don't credit that. Do you?

Of course, he should wear a mask when outside, especially when he’s coughing and blowing snot everywhere. I never implied that he doesn’t need to. But it’s on him to wear a mask, and he obviously isn’t. If anything, he should be resting at home until he’s well, which he obviously isn’t. Since he’s not following the rules, then yes, his behaviour is not acceptable. And how do you know he doesn’t believe the virus isn’t real, may I ask? Has he directly told you that it doesn’t exist? He could just be careless about the virus and evidently very irresponsible. I don’t work, so I wouldn’t need to consult a doctor and get medical advice and your friend doesn’t, either. He should have common sense and take the basic actions, i.e. self-isolate and/or get a test if unsure. 

 

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My boss would fire me if I would come to work with a red nose right now. My boss would send me to a doctor, there is no option.

If you are experiencing COVID-like symptoms, then I don't know why you would even be going to work in the first place. And you're not allowed to physically see a doctor for possible COVID if that's what you mean. You would risk spreading it (if you actually do have it). Over the phone? Sure, but certainly not physically. You should get a test done to confirm if it's COVID if you're unsure and, of course, self-isolate. 

Edited October 12, 2020 by Arrows to Athens

[NaidRaida]

He's not a conspiracy theorist, but he clearly has a lack of common sense in many ways. I can observe this lack of common sense very often sadly, especially with younger ppl. Party over life, that seems alot of ppl's motto. I'm too old for that, sorry.

Twenty years ago, I maybe would also behave much different, yes. That's why he's extremely obese, lost his drivers license cause of fully drunken driving and things like that. He also needed an psychologist once because of violent behavior. Common sense is not his strenght rather beeing childish and naive to the bone. And now, I'm asking myself if I am the nitpicker because I criticized him very harsh (about his c-19 behavior). But I think my criticism is eligible. Obviously you think the same. We talk at cross-purposes maybe, that's the phrase I needed to find! Sorry. I've to admit I'm pretty stressed about this covid-sh*t. But I'm always stressed. That's my nature. Bad pot was a joke, these days are over.

Edited October 12, 2020 by NaidRaida

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

I received my test results today and I have been tested positive for Covid 19 which I highly anticipated due to the symptoms I'm experiencing.

Edited October 12, 2020 by PicklePrick

[Detective Phelps]

Imagine wasting a doctors time because you want to get checked up for a cold lmao. It's a self limiting condition. I've already had patients waste my time on my parallel clinics in my GP attachment (no wonder why me and my mates would rather be hospital consultants in the future lol) because of trivial issues (not covid, just people who over exaggerate their symptoms). Then again, the receptionists are doing a damn fine job filtering patients.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Detective Phelps

[Ned Bingham]

I used to sometimes cook rice in a microwave, potatoes too.  Requires a bit more skill than on the hob.

 

Sorry Mr Scratch, how can I ever atone for my sins and raise myself up in your estimation? 

[JON22]

I sometimes end up coughing while wearing my mask at work because I'm too distracted worrying about catching coronavirus then somehow end up with my saliva going down the wrong pipe, then I wonder if I do have coronavirus. Things like that happen a lot when I'm doing one thing and thinking about something entirely different. Almost broke my fingers a couple of times cleaning the taps while thinking about not wanting to be at hospital with broken bones because people go there for one thing then end up catching coronavirus.

[JON22]

Lol we're f*cked.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-54539328

 

Used test kits.

[Misumi]

Since you were in front of him, you could have farted and he might have put the mask on.

[Detective Phelps]

3 hours ago, KDA said:

Since you were in front of him, you could have farted and he might have put the mask on.

Show dominance on the battlefield.

[Ned Bingham]

I kinda agree with the mask wearing.  Even if its efficacy is perhaps minimal in stopping the spread of the virus it has the very real effect of reminding every one that the virus is out there, invisible, but potentially deadly or crippling for some.

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

43 minutes ago, Ned Bingham said:

I kinda agree with the mask wearing.  Even if its efficacy is perhaps minimal in stopping the spread of the virus it has the very real effect of reminding every one that the virus is out there, invisible, but potentially deadly or crippling for some.

Experts have actually unearthed that face masks are highly prioritised and a necessity to reduce transmission of COVID-19 as well as social distancing and hand hygiene.

Edited October 15, 2020 by PicklePrick

[Craigsters]

one of the cashiers or  employee's at the local grocery across the street from me got covid 19 last week, I run  errands for others in my building every day to that grocery story, and may of been there when that  employee was there, should I be worried? or self  quarantine?

 

I've had a bad canker sore in my mouth for over a week, it's almost healed, the covid case across the street at the grocery story was on October 14th 

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

2 hours ago, Craigsters said:

one of the cashiers or  employee's at the local grocery across the street from me got covid 19 last week, I run  errands for others in my building every day to that grocery story, and may of been there when that  employee was there, should I be worried? or self  quarantine?

 

I've had a bad canker sore in my mouth for over a week, it's almost healed, the covid case across the street at the grocery story was on October 14th 

Self isolation guidelines manifest that if you have been in close proximity of someone who has tested positive, you need to self isolate for 14 days.

are you displaying any symptoms? If you are not, just for you to be aware symptoms can take up to 14 days to appear.

If its worrying you a lot you should ideally get tested and your results can determine for what you must do next, but you need to self isolate to fortify yourself and others.

when did you last go to the grocery store?

 

[Craigsters]

I go  almost every day, I run errands for older people in my building

[Sil3ntWr4th_-]

5 hours ago, Craigsters said:

I go  almost every day, I run errands for older people in my building

So I presume you must have went to the store on the 14th of October and before that too right?

Edited October 18, 2020 by PicklePrick

[Craigsters]

most likely

[Arrows to Athens]

5 hours ago, Craigsters said:

I go  almost every day, I run errands for older people in my building

There have been cases where people were in close contact with someone with COVID shortly before they got tested or started displaying symptoms, but never contracted the virus. Maybe you should self-isolate for 7 days just to make sure. Do they test those who aren't showing any symptoms where you live?

Edited October 18, 2020 by Arrows to Athens

[NaidRaida]

Lawyer Dr. Reiner Fuellmich on his ongoing class action against the WHO and others:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0M1qsGN1mc

 

New partial lockdown in Germany will become effective today (Bavarian area) afaik. Cheers!