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The Harwood massacre-theory


Ahmedmfroezspeed

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Well I was wondering about that butchery that got Tommy jailed for 15 years, and I was thinking

Who were those 11 men that Thomas has killed?

I thought about it, and there's 4 possibilities

1- is that they were from the.Sindaccos

2- is that they were Traitors from the forelli mafia

3- is that they were cops

4- is that they were Leones

For me , I say they were Leones

I mean think of it, Harwood is a Leone territory, right ? And the forellis owned saint Mark's area before 1992 when CJ turned it to a Leone territory, remember ?

And obviously the Leones were enemies of the Forellis,

And not the Sindaccos because Harwood wasn't a Sindacco territory, but they did own the red light district

So for me ,they were Leones

How about you ?

What do you think ?

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Tommy was sent to kill one guy and it turned out to be more. Maybe Sonny was offering Tommy to the Sindaccos or Leones, letting their guys kill him in exhange for XYZ? Tommy was falsely told he was going there to kill only one guy when he was walking into an ambush.

 

E. Found this cool video about it

 

 

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I know its not allowed here to promote , talk about Youtubers but a great video by  LoadGamePL

 

 

Talks about what happen in that day Tommy had to do what he needed to do to survive. Does kinda bring backdrop of what could have happen. Great video.

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On 2/28/2020 at 5:26 AM, ROCKSTAR MANIC said:

 

Talks about what happen in that day Tommy had to do what he needed to do to survive. Does kinda bring backdrop of what could have happen. Great video.

And here's an old ."convincing" video I found on youtube

 

 

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It was highly likely that Tommy killed several of Sindacco's men,as the Forelli's and Sindacco's never had any good relations with each other.I highly doubt that it was police officers as why would the Forelli's attempt at literally wanting to get busted?Back in the 70's as shown in the wiki,the Forelli's and Leone's had a sort of a alliance,so it wouldn't make sense why they would just kill some of their former workers.

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On 2/29/2020 at 8:09 AM, OmarMohammed said:

The eleven men was from the forellis, Sonny wanted to ambush Tommy but I don't know why.

My guess he feared Tommy's combat prowress and rising status in the gang and sought to prevent any potential coups. 

 

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Back when we was working on a mod called "The Harwood Butcher" the storyline outline was that Liberty City was undergoing a power shift but was corrupt from all sides, Tommy was making a name for himself but was cocky and would've constantly been told to reign things in, which he didn't listen to leading to him severely beating up a high profile corrupt union member. This would've then lead to the cops and unions putting the squeeze on the Forelli's until Sonny eventually decides to offer up Tommy as a sacrifice leading into the final mission "The Harwood Butcher" which would've taken place at the truck park near the ferry station.

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2 minutes ago, Ash_735 said:

which would've taken place at the truck park near the ferry station.

I don't know liberty city well, but Isn't the place supposed to be in Harwood? 

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1 hour ago, OmarMohammed said:

I don't know liberty city well, but Isn't the place supposed to be in Harwood? 

Yes, it would've been a new area in Harwood where the Dirt Track was in LCS. It's empty land in GTA3.

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21 minutes ago, Ash_735 said:

Yes, it would've been a new area in Harwood where the Dirt Track was in LCS. It's empty land in GTA3.

oh ok

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On 3/1/2020 at 12:22 AM, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

And here's an old ."convincing" video I found on youtube

 

 

would be cool if there was a full conversion mod for gta 3 with the quality of the gta shine o'vice mod that had these player models with some missions. obviously last mission would be called the harwood butcher.

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On 3/16/2020 at 2:24 PM, Ash_735 said:

Back when we was working on a mod called "The Harwood Butcher" the storyline outline was that Liberty City was undergoing a power shift but was corrupt from all sides, Tommy was making a name for himself but was cocky and would've constantly been told to reign things in, which he didn't listen to leading to him severely beating up a high profile corrupt union member. This would've then lead to the cops and unions putting the squeeze on the Forelli's until Sonny eventually decides to offer up Tommy as a sacrifice leading into the final mission "The Harwood Butcher" which would've taken place at the truck park near the ferry station.

 

Was that the one that bum waster frank was working on 

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7 minutes ago, universetwisters said:

 

Was that the one that bum waster frank was working on 

I honestly can't remember, it wasn't a long lasting project, I remember elMarco doing a lot of concept art though of characters and vehicles.

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Just now, Ash_735 said:

I honestly can't remember, it wasn't a long lasting project, I remember elMarco doing a lot of concept art though of characters and vehicles.

 

You should release what you got sometime 

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