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What do you think of Toni Cipriani ?


Ahmedmfroezspeed

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Ahmedmfroezspeed

For me...

He's the second best protagonist in the series

He's just Tommy Vercetti , only with way more sadism and way less mercy, I mean he's the third protagonist with the highest kill count in rampages where he had from 492-510 kills in his rampages where on the second spot is Vic Vance where he had 649-660 kills on the pap and

From 700-720 kills on the ps2 version

And on the #1 spot is Tommy Vercetti where he had from 849-860 kills in his rampages...

And the protagonist with the highest storyline kill count of the series where he killed...over a hundred,and probably over a thousand... anyways

Unlike Tommy. Toni is SADISTIC!

And he's the most psychopathic protagonist in the series

That's why he's my second most favorite protagonist in the series and Tommy is my third most favorite protagonist in the series..., tell me who's more psychopathic than Toni ? None

Probably Claude , but he ain't as dark as Toni

How about you ?

What do you think of Toni Cipriani ?

Let me know by replying

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you thinking a bit too much about a guy who doesnt even talk much. Toni is alright, i don’t think he is a psychopath or sociopath. A killer without mercy, we got that but whatever. Being a hypocrite is far worse than those(personal opinion), talking about Michael Townley btw by “Hypocrite”. Same for Trevor. To me, being a Douche bag is also far worse than being evil. Trevor is the most douche bag protagonist out there, no wonder why people hate V’s storyline. Story doesn’t make sense alright, at least be a bit serious dammit. Toni is cool.

 

Try not to quote me on this post.

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universetwisters

I think he's a crazy man with an undying loyalty to his mama and Sal who I think killed CJ and probably took over the Leone family after Sal's death

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jazzbone

My choice is Toni and LCS over Claude and GTA3, and i am still hoping LCS comes to PS4.
Toni seems like and looks like a 1950's old school wiseguy. Like a character in "A Bronx Tale" or "Goodfellas".
Toni C. also looks like a guy that could be a Captain under Tony Soprano.
Overall Toni C. is GTA protaganist that is enjoyable to play.

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NewGuybj

He's a cool guy. But kind of a dick. Blew up enire Fort Staunton, potentialy killed thousands of people, just for 5000 bucks.

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Copcaller

Wish he had been fleshed out more besides angry mobster with Mommy issues but damn is he ruthless I genuinely wouldn't want to cross him look at how he killed casa, Dan sucho and threatened to pretty much murder everyone Leon McCaffrey knew.

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Ahmedmfroezspeed

i don't know why people underrate him for no reason...

he deserves a spot near Niko Bellic, Tommy Vercetti, and Carl Johnson

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DownInThePMs

Hes shallow imo, and i think hes one of the emptiest protagonists in the series. i dont get why many of you guys like him.

 

He checks all the boxes for every trope associated with a stereotypical Hollywood italian american mobster (loyalty, sociopathy, troubles with family) and he just plays like a 1-dimensional lap dog for salvatore throughout the whole game (even maria alludes to this).

 

and the worst part is that game doesnt even attempt to explore, test or deconstruct these characterizations at all. Hes essentially a drone for the mafia and the rich driven by the carnal desires of violence and destruction that happens to be controlled by the player, which to me actually creates a sort of disconnect between the player and him.

 

Contrast this with claude, who basically has no dialogue at all, but still has a ton more character than toni does. We understand his motivations for causing a rouse in the city, and as such, I actually relate to and enjoy playing as him more.

 

I think Luis in TBOGT is Toni done slightly better, and that game was short.

 

 

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LCLegend

He's a momma's boy and lap dog. I think the situations he's put in are funny, but he is ultimately a very simple protagonist. Nothing particularly wrong about that, I enjoy playing as him, I just wish there was a bit more to him.

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Ahmedmfroezspeed
On 3/31/2020 at 4:21 AM, DownInTheHole said:

Hes shallow imo, and i think hes one of the emptiest protagonists in the series. i dont get why many of you guys like him.

 

He checks all the boxes for every trope associated with a stereotypical Hollywood italian american mobster (loyalty, sociopathy, troubles with family) and he just plays like a 1-dimensional lap dog for salvatore throughout the whole game (even maria alludes to this).

 

 

actually psychopathy

sociopathy is something

and psychopathy is just something else

here, a topic i made differenciating between sociopaths and psychopaths

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DownInThePMs
3 minutes ago, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

actually psychopathy

sociopathy is something

and psychopathy is just something else

here, a topic i made differenciating between sociopaths and psychopaths

I'm pretty sure Toni is a sociopath.

 

Good effort on differentiating the two though I'm proud of you buddy.

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Ahmedmfroezspeed
On 3/31/2020 at 4:21 AM, DownInTheHole said:

 

 

I think Luis in TBOGT is Toni done slightly better, and that game was short.

 

 

and about luis being better than Toni, i completely disagree

Luis is WAY worse than Toni

probably the worst character in the series

hell, not even Johnson was this awful 

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DownInThePMs
Just now, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

and about luis being better than Toni, i completely disagree

Luis is WAY worse than Toni

probably the worst character in the series

hell, not even Johnson was this awful 

Ok then, explain why

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DownInThePMs
6 minutes ago, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

to not flood the forum with the reason

here

a ranking list of all the protagonists

Your "reason" is literally because he's promiscuous (really? he's a club bouncer for god's sake), but okay man.

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Ahmedmfroezspeed
1 minute ago, DownInTheHole said:

Your "reason" is literally because he's promiscuous, but okay man.

a douche bag,actually

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DownInThePMs
4 minutes ago, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

a douche bag,actually

> forced to make a choice between killing his boss or getting themselves killed by the russians when they're in a tight spot

>chooses to selflessly save his boss instead and even shoots one of the messengers as an extra f*ck you to their attackers

 

Yeah man he's a disloyal douchebag.

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gtafaninwest

A mama's boy and rear kisser who will do anything to reclaim his spot within the Liberty City Cosa Nostra.

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jazzbone

Luis Lopez? He's ok and interesting to play as.
Luis is loyal to his employer that provides a good income and probably keeps Luis off the streets.
Tony is older than Luis and may be somewhat of a father figure that Luis may never have had before.
Luis is also Tony's right hand man so there is a mutual relationship of dependency, trust, respect, and loyalty.


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Ahmedmfroezspeed
On 4/7/2020 at 5:14 PM, jazzbone said:

Luis Lopez? He's ok and interesting to play as.
Luis is loyal to his employer that provides a good income and probably keeps Luis off the streets.
Tony is older than Luis and may be somewhat of a father figure that Luis may never have had before.
Luis is also Tony's right hand man so there is a mutual relationship of dependency, trust, respect, and loyalty.

 

I guess Rock star tried their best to make an HD version of Toni Cipriani,but ended up giving us a chocolate cake that tastes like Donkey sh*t

He's not even sadistic like Toni

He's just a shameless ripoff for Toni Cipriani

Edit: and you know me, I don't like ripoffs

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I liked Toni, he was really cool. I enjoyed the mafia focused theme LCS had, and Toni was the perfect fit as a protagonist. His loyalty to Salvatore was something I thought was unique in the series. Most of the time the protagonist was kinda freelance (CJ, Niko) or they were kinda working for themselves, (Vic, Tommy). Toni was a member of the mafia, and somewhat early in the game becomes a made man. His loyalty to the mafia, and Don Salvatore Leone, was really admirable. We've always worked for the mafia as different protagonists in different games, but this perspective from an actual member of the mafia was awesome and unique.

 

I've always thought of GTA: LCS as the most serious game of the 3D era. No silly stuff, no jetpacks, no stipclubs, just mafia related "work". I think that's a big reason this game is underrated.

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On 4/13/2020 at 6:23 PM, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

I guess Rock star tried their best to make an HD version of Toni Cipriani,but ended up giving us a chocolate cake that tastes like Donkey sh*t

He's not even sadistic like Toni

He's just a shameless ripoff for Toni Cipriani

Edit: and you know me, I don't like ripoffs

ain't really a HD Toni Cipriani, they just wanted to make us play as someone from the north holland neighbourhoods that grew up by slinging dope in the corners of the streets, but found an opportunity to get out of this life.

Toni is dedicated to the Leone's to the point of doing anything for him to get a name for himself among this crime family.

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On 4/13/2020 at 1:23 PM, Ahmedmfroezspeed said:

I guess Rock star tried their best to make an HD version of Toni Cipriani,but ended up giving us a chocolate cake that tastes like Donkey sh*t

He's not even sadistic like Toni

He's just a shameless ripoff for Toni Cipriani

Edit: and you know me, I don't like ripoffs

he has his moments of psychopathy, like when he threw the guy off the building

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13 minutes ago, Niobium said:

he has his moments of psychopathy, like when he threw the guy off the building

but he doesn't seem to enjoy them

or even feel bad about them

and sadistic people ENJOY seeing everybody around them suffer in deep pain

and Toni is just 100% sadistic

and for Luis..., we can't really tell if he enjoys it or not

but he doesn't seem to enjoy it, or even get bothered of it

and another thing

luis is NOT a psychopath

Cipriani IS a psychopath

Luis is a Sociopath

and Cipriani is a Psychopath

and Psychopaths are well known for sadism

there is a difference between the two

hope it sounded clear

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Algonquin Assassin

He's another one of those characters I preferred in GTA III. Michael Madsen made him work really well, but I never thought he was really protagonist material so I don't care for him much in LCS.

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