OutlawGin Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, crybaby17h16 said: rockstar should give gold bars and rdo$ as a sorry gift after all these animals spawns problems are fixed.. I believe it will never fixed, they just need to add a solo lobby easy peasy jazzbone and crybaby17h16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandardDonkey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, The Shakermaker said: why dont they just skip build 1232.26 and go straight to 1232.28? They first one must have been a "let's see if this one works. No? Ok how about this one?" They're just throwing sh*t against the wall until something sticks Cutter De Blanc, The Shakermaker and DontGetClose1990 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AStiffBreeze Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 It seems like they’re trying desperately to make animals work in 20+ player lobbies. Trying, and failing At some point I assume they’ll have to bite the bullet and change their lobby switching system to favour <20 player lobbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TagoKG Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 no PC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Lola Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) PS Plus Premium is coming soon. I hope Rockstar isn't waiting for PS Plus Premium to introduce RDO Invite Only and or Solo sessions for those subscribers. Edited February 13, 2020 by *Lola ghostsoap01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman_83 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 As much as I want solo / private lobbies, it'll be sad if thats what it takes to ensure we have decent animal spawns and will only cement the segregation of the playerbase. I'm not complaining about having those lobbies, as I desire them as much as any of you, I'm just saying it'll be sad if its the only way to have decent spawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direwrath Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 7 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: "The hope is these unique roles encourage players to intermingle in interesting ways, even those normally more inclined to keep to themselves. This overarching philosophy is why Rockstar is so apprehensive to introduce elements like a passive mode that walls off players from each other or free-aim servers that split the player base. "It would be easier for us to do that then what we're trying to do here, which is allow people to still feel like they are existing in the world that has an element of Wild Westiness to it and not completely make it two experiences," Nelson says. "If we can't get the balancing right then we can always do that, but what we're trying to do is allow people to, however they want to play the game, interact with the world and still feel like they're all part of the same world together. Where we think it works best and when it's the most fun is if you are actually able to roleplay in this world to a certain degree." https://www.gameinformer.com/2019/05/14/rockstar-outlines-the-future-of-red-dead-online They say they want me to roleplay, how am I supposed to do that with the possibility of having flaming arrows or dynamite rounds aimed at my head when I ride into town? Lol, it's kind of hard to get into a story when you are too apprehensive of another player's attack and thus do not feel calm or safe enough to actually enjoy the world around you. The novelty of being in a world with other players gets old fast, I just want to play the game with my own character, I don't need everyone else there to help me feel a part of the world anyways. Nothing against other players but not everyone wants to play the game the same way, which brings conflict, R* belief in players getting along and making this a wonderful online world is skewered. As for the game, I saw a few more animals during my play yesterday, mostly pronghorns around hangman's rock and some elk way up north. We also finally saw one of those wounded deer that give you the arrowhead for the first time in what had to be weeks but I don't think the update came to my system yet, or if it did it must have been small because I didn't see an update download that took longer than a few minutes to finish. John McCabe, Lonely-Martin, MSK_MKIII and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 After a few hours of play, I have seen more animals in some sessions. Not pre Frontier Pursuits levels of animal spawns, but hunting was possible. Session merging seems to create more issues than it's worth. Deer, rabbits, Elk and bears were abundant enough in Tall Trees that I could consistently hunt, take carcasses back to camp then go hunting again without leaving the area. Again, I wasn't exactly spoiled for choice, but, I could load my horse, get a few pelts and something to drag within 10-15 minutes. The problems came alongside spikes in session player count that had to be caused by session merging. Where the player count was fluctuating between 17-23 players, like usual, a steady trickle of animals were spawning, but when the player count jumped, I saw an 18 to 27 player spike in session population, everything instantly broke. Animals and carcasses despawned, camp disappeared and couldn't be pitched, shack broke in all the usual ways. It's a start, even if it's not a particularly consistent one. I've played three times today since the update and on two of those occasions the world has been dead. The last few hours have been an improvement though. ventogt, rusbeckia and Leftover Pizza 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said: Yeah, when I got the Pro I put my old base PS4 in my office. Everyone is happier when I have an assortment of distractions. You're lucky, mate. As soon as I bring a PS4 (or any console) to my office, I'll be bringing it back outside along with all my other stuff an hour later. Edited February 13, 2020 by Leftover Pizza ALifeOfMisery and DontGetClose1990 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tez2 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Shakermaker said: Cool. How'd you know all this out of curiosity? Secondly why dont they just skip build 1232.26 and go straight to 1232.28? Just wondering, that's all. Tah I monitor the background updates, I found out that they pushed a background update for build 1232.28 which isn't not live yet. Also, I believe they said that ongoing improvements are underway, so we are gonna get new patches to reduce those issues. The Shakermaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMCSAVAGE Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said: It's a start, even if it's not a particularly consistent one. You're too kind. It's more of a fkn disgrace in my book. This isn't some indie dev we're dealing with. I love how they tried to cover their a$$ with "certain sessions" (whatever the fk that means) and "ongoing improvements are underway". "Improvements to reduce issues with ambient wildlife populations in certain Red Dead Online sessions. Ongoing improvements are underway to reduce these issues across all platforms." I'm just glad there really isn't anything for me to do. I'd hate to be a new player trying to endure this sh!t show. Cutter De Blanc, ghostsoap01, areyouchappin and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, Fun 2 said: I monitor the background updates, I found out that they pushed a background update for build 1232.28 which isn't not live yet. Also, I believe they said that ongoing improvements are underway, so we are gonna get new patches to reduce those issues. They also said they would keep us posted on fixes for this issue. We're still guessing about what really has been done and where the upcoming patches are leading to. They did share patch notes, but it's pretty vague what they actually meant. Don't get me wrong, I am happy they are doing something, which doesn't work for many yet, but they are doing something. Lonely-Martin and ALifeOfMisery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventogt Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 hours ago, BUT THE BENZ said: Sorry, no offense really, but I had to laugh at some of you guys 'enthusiasm towards a fix for the animal spawn rate, or whatever. If R* knew how to solve it without breaking more stuff they would have fixed it already, wouldn't they?! Benzless, danless, R* staff and support for RDO is 10 dudes sitting in india, working with R* games as 2nd job. I seriously cannot understand why they don't just temporarily limit lobbies to less than twenty players until they figure this sh*t out. It's such an easy fix, come the f_uck on Rev. Gnash, jazzbone, Zalwig and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, ventogt said: I seriously cannot understand why they don't just temporarily limit lobbies to less than twenty players until they figure this sh*t out. It's such an easy fix, come the f_uck on That would be too easy. We can't have easy now, can we? Too much fun, too quick, nah man. Can't have that. Lonely-Martin, ALifeOfMisery and ventogt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSK_MKIII Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said: They really weren't lying when they called us freeloaders and wanted us gone, lol. That'll do it alright! Yep, a bunch of freeloaders who paid "at least" sixty freakin dollars for the game! Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) I just had a bug during a moonshine mission...that I never had before, I was completing my daily to travel 4827 feet in a wagon...with 2:30 remaining, the game said posse quit game or something and ended the mission. (The moonshine was there later and I sold it and got all the money) A new bug...I am unable to purchase a camp through the menu. I have not seen a large animal in my game. I have noticed a bit more birds but nothing compared to a lobby that is solo. Edited February 14, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowfennekin Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, *Lola said: PS Plus Premium is coming soon. I hope Rockstar isn't waiting for PS Plus Premium to introduce RDO Invite Only and or Solo sessions for those subscribers. Given how much they love sucking Sony's micropenis, I wouldn't be surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowlessDevil Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 12 hours ago, 4eyedcoupe said: What about changing lobbies? Lately I've been having to close the application and restart the game just to change lobbies or join a friend. Any improvements there? If any of your friends are playing. just join their lobby. You won't get the infinite loading screen Nice to see New Austin filled with animals once again. 4eyedcoupe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrungeNinja Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, ventogt said: I seriously cannot understand why they don't just temporarily limit lobbies to less than twenty players until they figure this sh*t out. It's such an easy fix, come the f_uck on I remember when Conan Exiles early access was supposed to hold 70 players per server, because of poor performance they reduced to 40 (it is still poor), and after 3 years the game still have only 40 players per server and even so the ones that have the most are 15 or 20 players online. Dont get me wrong, I too feel the pain, but Im sure is temporary, they will figure out, just give’em some time and soon the game will be in a good shape. Edited February 14, 2020 by GrungeNinja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, CMCSAVAGE said: It's more of a fkn disgrace in my book. I completely agree. R*s handling of RDO in general is disgraceful as far as I'm concerned. My post was in the interest of fairness, I'm as critical of R* as anyone, more so than most much of the time, but with that in mind, it was only fair that, when I have had a slightly more positive experience, I share that as well. R* have a lot of work to do, and I'm not convinced that they'll get the game where it needs to be unless they back down over player count, session merging and IO sessions. Lonely-Martin and Leftover Pizza 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFinn Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) I log in this morning and my camp icon is in Tall Trees. When I look at the camp menu it acts like the camp isn't out though. Wonder if it's the same camp "place holder" as yesterday and I need to move it. EDIT: Yep, I formed posse and Cripps packed up camp. I was able to set it up at Scarlett Meadows though. EDIT EDIT: When I go to camp it's just Cripps standing there alone,nothing else spawned in. Äh, it used to work well for me before, the camp. EDIT EDIT EDIT: It loaded in after I did a moonshiner roadblock event nearby and went past the camp again. Cannot raise white flag though Edited February 14, 2020 by aFinn ALifeOfMisery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoffman9 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 18 hours ago, Lonely-Martin said: Another 4gb, lol. Now I'm deleting stuff and if the signs are true, for absolutely f*ck all reason. They really weren't lying when they called us freeloaders and wanted us gone, lol. That'll do it alright! If something is not making money on the level of Gta Online, they don't consider it worth giving a damn. Gotta sustain that unsustainable growth amirite? Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ghoffman9 said: If something is not making money on the level of Gta Online, they don't consider it worth giving a damn. The thing is, even if this is the case, I'm not saying it is or isn't (but I could definitely see this being something close to the opinion overlord Strauss has), then why make RDO at all? It was never going to make money on the scale of GTAO and whenever GTA VI releases, it won't make money on the scale the online element of that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo 702 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 37 minutes ago, ALifeOfMisery said: The thing is, even if this is the case, I'm not saying it is or isn't (but I could definitely see this being something close to the opinion overlord Strauss has), then why make RDO at all? It was never going to make money on the scale of GTAO and whenever GTA VI releases, it won't make money on the scale the online element of that either. This game could have made a sh*t ton more $$ if it wasn’t so broken. was it going to make the revenue gta did of course not it’s a Wild West setting that not all players are in to, put games like cod in the revolutionary war era and there would be the same problem. Does it have a big enough dedicated player base, it did but being this game has more problems than a mid 70’s yugo most have left. R* knew this would be a filler game for the now older fans of redemption 1 and tried to add an in game economy w/ little more than pvp to do, that’s why it’s basically forced on us in every aspect. Forced pvp = frustration in turn breeds card sales from players trying to keep up with the latest items. R* f*cked up and they know it, either from the player counts to getting destroyed in their own live streams. For a game having such potential it turned out like Homer Simpson building a car. ventogt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, El Diablo 702 said: R* knew this would be a filler game for the now older fans of redemption 1 and tried to add an in game economy w/ little more than pvp to do, that’s why it’s basically forced on us in every aspect. Forced pvp = frustration in turn breeds card sales from players trying to keep up with the latest items. R* f*cked up and they know it, either from the player counts to getting destroyed in their own live streams. I can't agree about there being forced PvP in the most part. Could R* have done more? Of course they could, we should have Invite Only lobbies and should have had them from launch. But, almost every step R* have taken, as far as free roam is concerned, has made free roam PvP easier to avoid or opt out of. Defensive mode, proximity blips and chat, parley after one death, local Trader sales, Collector is PvE only, there's no incentive to PvP for Bounty Hunters either apart from player bounties and even then, keep your bounty down and you can't be targeted. A mistake, as far as I'm concerned, is that Moonshine sales don't have the same local/distant option as Trader sales, but that being said, I've made over $20k from Moonshine so far and haven't lost a single sale to another player so far. R* have f*cked up where player count is concerned. I don't think player count is the root cause of the various problems in free roam, it's a symptom of an underlying issue. That's not to say that the symptom can't be alleviated, if you have a bad back, the pain isn't the cause of the problem, but that doesn't mean you don't take pain killers while the pulled muscle or slipped disc is being treated. R* should have either reduced player count or implemented Invite Only lobbies, at least temporarily, while working on the cause of the spawn issues. Edited February 14, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery Leftover Pizza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Failed Again Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 big wildlife improvement saw at least 4 different groups of saddled NPC horses along the road..,,mmm opps cant kill those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyuNova Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Fun 2 said: Another patch is coming, current build we have is 1232.26 Next build is 1232.28 When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diablo 702 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 @ALifeOfMisery we should have the lobby types to suit the player, you want to play with your friends here you go, you want to pvp in free roam here it is, you want a pve lobby here you go. We should have the ability to host game modes and invite who we want. As for “forced pvp” it’s what you get when you put all the players together no matter what the players are wanting to do. Don’t get me wrong this is a beautiful game w/ awesome potential, to me it just seems R* doesn’t care and it’s just a $$ grab and then the till they finish gta6. For a company like R* & take2 this dumpster fire can’t have this many problems if they actually cared. Direwrath and ALifeOfMisery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, El Diablo 702 said: we should have the lobby types to suit the player, you want to play with your friends here you go, you want to pvp in free roam here it is, you want a pve lobby here you go. We should have the ability to host game modes and invite who we want. Fully agree with this. Lobby types should be a thing. R* telling us how the game is most fun is arrogant. 11 minutes ago, El Diablo 702 said: As for “forced pvp” it’s what you get when you put all the players together no matter what the players are wanting to do. I get what you mean, PvP in free roam is "forced" because we have no control over whether another player inflicts it upon us. I suppose my view on it is that, while you're correct, and if xXsNiPeGoD420Xx wants to kill you for no reason, they can, it just has very little, or no consequences. If I get shot on the way into the General store in Valentine and I can't be bothered with a fight, I can parley and carry on with what I wanted to do. Unless you're on a distant Trader sale (asking for it, it's not worth the extra cash) or a Moonshine sale (a mistake by R* IMO), being killed once, then parleying is of no consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Downloaded patch and loaded in. Tried to pitch camp but it never arrived. Apart from all the disconnects, was it this bad on day one of the beta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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