Wich Bunker?

[stormloop]

I know that the price of bunkers depends of their distance to the city, maybe there is something else into play as well, but there is a 1.65 mill bunker on the same distance from the city as the 2.35 mill, what is the benefit of the 7000k extra? or just personal prefference?

Stormloop

[StangOne50]

I would not worry about the money as you will make it back pretty quickly once it is all setup. I like the Farmhouse bunker mainly due to its location.

Edited February 7, 2020 by StangOne50

[nealmac]

All bunkers are the exact same, but yeah, proximity to the city should be your primary focus. The farmhouse bunker (mentioned above) is another good option as it's close to the city, but it involves taking sh*t roads to get there. The Chumash bunker is right on the western freeway, making getting to the city even easier.

Edited February 11, 2020 by nealmac

[stormloop]

i have a chopper, transport isnt the primary worry, the chumach is just on the highway, whats the disadvantage of that one? it only costs 1.65mil...

Edited February 7, 2020 by stormloop

[Timsalabimbo]

27 minutes ago, stormloop said:

i have a chopper, transport isnt the primary worry, the chumach is just on the highway, whats the disadvantage of that one? it only costs 1.65mil...

Disadvantage is that it's all the way to the side of the map. But that's more of a worry if you're doing resupply missions.

[stormloop]

But it is connzcted to a highway wich makes up for that, k stead of farmhouses little roads

[Timsalabimbo]

2 hours ago, stormloop said:

But it is connzcted to a highway wich makes up for that, k stead of farmhouses little roads

Farmhouse is in the middle of the map though. The only mission that are far away from that one are the ones in Paleto Bay.

[stormloop]

so you would take farmhouse? after today i have enough money for either of those so thats not the problem, it is a bunker that can let you do ammo and ammunition selling and DDH right?

[Timsalabimbo]

You need a Facility for the DDH. The Bunker is for selling guns and unlocking bunker research. If you do go for the Farmhouse bunker, there are a couple of Facilities nearby that one. You can use Lesters DDH invite to teleport to your facility and quickly check on your bunker progress.

[stormloop]

so i guess ill go for farmhouse bunker then, with that i can make some extra money so i can buy a facility as well, thanks everyone...

[stormloop]

dumb question:

i have bought it and am now stocking up on stock, is it me or is it not profitable, or will it get more profitable further along the way?

[Timsalabimbo]

Bunker is by far the best business in the game. It takes time before your supplies get turned into stock. It's not like you get supplies, and you instantly have stock to sell. Also, getting the upgrades is a good idea.

[stormloop]

i know, but if i buy the supplies innstead of stealing, do i make profit?

[Timsalabimbo]

You should, yes.

[SummerFreeze]

17 hours ago, stormloop said:

dumb question:

i have bought it and am now stocking up on stock, is it me or is it not profitable, or will it get more profitable further along the way?

If your bunker isn't upgraded and you buy supplies, you won't make money on it. ($75k of supplies will produce $75k of goods when not upgraded.)

 

A fully upgraded bunker with bought supplies is very easy money though, and you can even complete most 100% bunker sale missions solo, the rest you'd have to restart by switching sessions and lose 30k. But I'd do a few <25% bunker sale missions first because then you always get one vehicle and will know what to expect.

 

I own the Farmhouse location and am very happy with it, but it's not that much better than Chumash honestly, and it would have been better to buy Chumash + the equipment upgrade instead of Farmhouse, because the equipment upgrade doubles the amount of stock created from supplies (along with increasing production speed and sell price like the staff upgrade does).

 

If you can't afford upgrades right now, I'd set the bunker to research and buy supplies. Stealing supplies isn't really worth it, but you can do it a few times to unlock the MOC missions. Once your bunker is fully upgraded though it's better to produce guns and use the money to buy research, instead of actually doing research.

Edited February 9, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[stormloop]

very much thanked for this great answer on this whole thread, i will certainly take all you said in account...

[SummerFreeze]

41 minutes ago, stormloop said:

very much thanked for this great answer on this whole thread, i will certainly take all you said in account...

One more thing: Once your bunker is fully upgraded, you can buy supplies once and it will produce $210k in remote sell value in 140 minutes. If you start that sell mission you will always get a single vehicle and make a profit of 210k - 75k = 135k. So pretty good money. Any sale mission of 25% or less stock will give a single vehicle.

 

If you have no upgrades, then 1 unit is worth 5k in local sell value; with the equipment or staff upgrade, it is worth 6k; and with both, it's worth 7k. So you can calculate the percentage from that -- the bunker can hold 100 units regardless of upgrades. (Remote sales give a multiplier of x1.5.)

 

As I said, it is possible to sell a full bunker solo, but only certain missions and restarting a full sell mission costs 3 units. It makes sense to get some experience first with <25% sell missions, so you'll know which can be done, but also you need a fast transport (CEO heli or MC Oppressor) for full bunker solo sales. The Farmhouse location is great for those though.

Edited February 9, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[nealmac]

I would have went with the Chumash bunker. The farmhouse bunker may well be in the middle of the map, but you should be looking for quick access into the city. Timewise, the Chumash bunker is by far the better option. Yes, it's to the side of the map, but it's on the freeway, thus eliminating those awful back roads that go round the mountains, not to mention the tight roads in Vinewood Hills. One of the sale missions you'll be doing involves a Phantom Wedge. Good luck navigating that thing through Vinewood hills. Remember: shorter time is always better than shorter distance. Time is money. I used to own the farmhouse bunker. When I switched to Chumash I couldn't believe how much easier it made things.

 

You also mentioned that you have a chopper so location isn't important. Doing sale missions requires you to use many different types of vehicles and usually only a 15 minute time limit,so yes, location is very relevant.

 

And yeah, as mentioned, getting the upgrades is definitely a good idea. In fact, I'd say that getting upgrades are essential. This allows you to buy supplies (saving lots of time) and still turn over a good profit, as long as you sell to the city.

[SummerFreeze]

16 hours ago, nealmac said:

One of the sale missions you'll be doing involves a Phantom Wedge. Good luck navigating that thing through Vinewood hills.

Chumash + equipment upgrade would have been better but the Phantom Wedge missions from Farmhouse are no problem at all, and on average even slightly faster than from Chumash.

[Airwolf359]

TL;DR: any bunker except Paleto. The only business worth having in Paleto is the submarine shipyard doomsday facility.

 

Farmhouse bunker and Grand Senora Desert Facility is the best combo if you want to use the DDH teleport to go check on your bunker.

 

Chumash bunker is the best if you don't use DDH teleport, still close proximity to the city, a LOT cheaper, just not as centrally located as Farmhouse for the resupply missions, but that doesn't matter a lot for the sales. For just sales, Chumash is better than Farmhouse.

 

I don't use the Master Control Terminal as it requires a public session to access and I play invite-only whenever I can as I'm mainly a heist player, so I choose business locations that are easy to teleport to.

 

On 2/7/2020 at 6:10 PM, nealmac said:

All bunkers are the exact same, but yeah, if you have the cash, proximity to the city should be your primary focus. The Chumash bunker is the most expensive bunker, but for good reason. The farmhouse bunker (mentioned above) is another good option as it's close to the city, but it involves taking sh*t roads to get there. The Chumash bunker is right on the western freeway, making getting to the city even easier.

Chumash is 1.65 mill, Farmhouse 2.35 mill.

Wait, are we talking about the same Farmhouse bunker? It is the one under the prison, and I always take the eastern freeway there.

 

23 hours ago, nealmac said:

I would have went with the Chumash bunker. The farmhouse bunker may well be in the middle of the map, but you should be looking for quick access into the city. Timewise, the Chumash bunker is by far the better option. Yes, it's to the side of the map, but it's on the freeway, thus eliminating those awful back roads that go round the mountains, not to mention the tight roads in Vinewood Hills. One of the sale missions you'll be doing involves a Phantom Wedge. Good luck navigating that thing through Vinewood hills. Remember: shorter time is always better than shorter distance. Time is money. I used to own the farmhouse bunker. When I switched to Chumash I couldn't believe how much easier it made things.

 

You also mentioned that you have a chopper so location isn't important. Doing sale missions requires you to use many different types of vehicles and usually only a 15 minute time limit,so yes, location is very relevant.

 

And yeah, as mentioned, getting the upgrades is definitely a good idea. In fact, I'd say that getting upgrades are essential. This allows you to buy supplies (saving lots of time) and still turn over a good profit, as long as you sell to the city.

Phantom Wedge from Farmhouse always sends you over the freeway. Not sure about other bunkers in the desert. It is mainly the Dune FAVs and Marshall trucks that have you navigating Vinewood Hills, even from Farmhouse. Insurgents you can usually take to the city over the freeway as well, even if the GPS tells you otherwise.

 

Edited February 11, 2020 by AirWolf359

[SummerFreeze]

12 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

For just sales, Chumash is better than Farmhouse.

I disagree when it comes to selling full bunker solo. You can complete most of the three Marshall sales solo from Farmhouse, although it requires experience. Phantom Wedges are also slightly faster on average because the drop-offs are in the South and South-East of the map. Single-drop Insurgents are about equal; there is a set of drops really close to Chumash (around Del Perro), and a set really close to Farmhouse (around Mirror Park).

[Airwolf359]

7 minutes ago, SummerFreeze said:

I disagree when it comes to selling full bunker solo. You can complete most of the three Marshall sales solo from Farmhouse, although it requires experience. Phantom Wedges are also slightly faster on average because the drop-offs are in the South and South-East of the map. Single-drop Insurgents are about equal; there is a set of drops really close to Chumash (around Del Perro), and a set really close to Farmhouse (around Mirror Park).

I have Farmhouse and I usually restart if I get 3 Marshall trucks. I don't want to drive marshalls for 15 minutes only to realize I'm not going to make the last drop and then still restart or eat a loss. One missed drop loses you more money than just restarting.

If you sell 50% and get 2 Marshalls, then I'm sure you're good with both of these bunkers.

For 25% sales I don't notice any significant difference in sale time between Chumash and Farmhouse.

Edited February 11, 2020 by AirWolf359

[SummerFreeze]

11 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

I never tested this, I only sell full solo with single drop vehicles just to be safe. I don't want to drive marshalls for 15 minutes only to realize I'm not going to make the last drop and then still restart or eat a loss. One missed drop loses you more money than just restarting.

I have Farmhouse and I still restart if I get Marshall trucks. For 25% sales I could not measure any significant difference in sale time.

First time I did it was as a challenge, just to see if it's possible, and then I found most of the Marshall missions can be completed. There are two sets of drops near Farmhouse that should only take 12-13 minutes with a CEO helicopter.

Edited February 11, 2020 by SummerFreeze

[nealmac]

40 minutes ago, AirWolf359 said:

Please edit this: Chumash is 1.65 mill, Farmhouse 2.35 mill

Well spotted. Thanks.

I'm actually surprised to learn that its one of the cheapest bunkers. No idea why I thought it was the most expensive. Either way, that's just another plus point for Chumash as far as I'm concerned.

Edited February 11, 2020 by nealmac

[ZCT]

I've owned three bunkers now, and most recently moved from Chumash to Farmhouse during the discount week.  I also used the move to downgrade, eliminating the pointless shooting range and golf buggies.  So the switch wasn't too bad with the trade in.

 

Because I use Maze Bank Tower, and have some businesses in La Mesa, I do love how easy it is to get to Farmhouse, be it driving or flying.  Other than my yacht, I don't have a lot of stuff over near Chumash (just the hanger).

 

Since I am most typically central or east city, I'm just liking the Farmhouse location.  But don't expect to suddenly find sell missions noticeably different from other locations.

[xInfected_Virus]

I have the Farmhouse location since it's close to Los Santos and the Monster Truck sell mission is a bit easier to do there. 

[Fieszo]

I had the Raton Canyon Bunker for being hidden, but sales were slow. So I bought the Farmhouse which is also a little hidden and I don't regret it.

[Wynne85]

You beat me to it I was gonna say do the farmhouse

[flybar]

I'm my opinion best bunker is at Sandy Shores I think it's called Route 68. The main advantage that this is located in about Center of the map and in walking distance to aircraft spawn. This gets me balanced distance for doing supply runs and sale missions. In my opinion if you want to make sale with more than one vehicle you'll need somebody to help, otherwise it's too risky and.   Other bunkers around sandy shores are good too, especially if you only buy supplies.