AmyStone Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 54 minutes ago, •—• said: Showdown Series Large. My Rank didn’t drop. I deleted my first character (Rank 415). Then made a new one that looked slightly better. Then got 2nd character up to around Rank 150 before stopped playing. It sucks they added the change appearance feature too late because I had waited long enough and already stopped playing by that time. I normally don’t play PvP in games but it was very fun in RDO. You deleted a rank 415 character to change the appearance slightly? That sounds nuts to me. I deleted mine and restarted because I wasn't happy with the appearance but that was at something like rank 15. U Carmine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuturePastNow Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 A couple of my friends on PC are almost to 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittyuniverse Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I suppose i'm notable in that I have been technically playing since the beta, but as a result of a myriad of character restarts and my infatuation with the SP over the online, I may be the person to play the longest and nevertheless have the lowest rank given that I'm only rank 58 after all this time. Yes, i am aware of how crazy that is. Brutal Trout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Stalheim Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 16 hours ago, AmyStone said: Ok, let me do that for you. To get from rank 1000 to rank 1001 you need 51,250xp. Not a huge amount. To get to rank 1000 you would have needed to earn 26,308,800xp. All that in around 15 months - which is around 450 days. That's an average of 58,464xp per day. So it shouldn't take him more than a day to go from 1000 to 1001. If he isn't raking up quickly any more then I guess his target was 1000 and he has stopped playing as much. Thanks for the computations.☺ 58,464xp per day, I presume they are exploit points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) I think the highest rank I recall is in the 700 range. The chances of someone exploiting an xp glitch to obtain insanely high ranks is very high, which I would say at this point is over rank 300. Especially in a game where a rank over 250 has no tangible benefit and the fact that XP glitches are widely known and available, render high rank meaningless because any person can glitch a high rank. And I am assuming, its not pointless at 100 because it would take most people to hit rank 250 to own every pamphlet, gun, and max level ability card. Really, who cares about the rank? Anyone can play the showdowns series over and over, until its maddening, just to rank up because....oh yeah, some guy who watched a youtube video can obtain the same rank in a fraction of the time and effort. A couple dedicated twitch streamers have accumulated almost 1million dollars grinding the entire collector map every day...which is also pointless, but pretty dedicated. I consider belt buckles completed a much better measure of competency...although the most difficult buckles favor people in organized posses. Organized groups are fun, but more trouble than they are worth. Edited February 6, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Molio Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) I see a racer every now and then from Germany who is a legit rank 2400 - odd. I’ve seen him in races off and on for years and seen his rank climbing. I think he must have around 40,000+ races under his belt by now. Edited February 6, 2020 by Big Molio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalwig Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Big Molio said: I see a racer every now and then from Germany who is a legit rank 2400 Are you sure you are in the right subforum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Molio Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zalwig said: Are you sure you are in the right subforum? I think so? Edited February 6, 2020 by Big Molio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, Big Molio said: I think so? I don't. This is the RDO forum. Not GTAO. 9 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: The chances of someone exploiting an xp glitch to obtain insanely high ranks is very high, which I would say at this point is over rank 300. Especially in a game where a rank over 250 has no tangible benefit and the fact that XP glitches are widely known and available, render high rank meaningless because any person can glitch a high rank. You are way off with that. You think anyone above rank 300 is using some kind of exploit? I'm afraid you're totally wrong. As far as I know there are no xp exploits otherwise you would see rank 1000s all over the place. Players above 500 are still not common and 600+ is pretty rare. Even the rank 1000 is not ridiculously hight. If he's been playing from the start and getting the 52,000xp per day average then you can easily calculate that it amount to around 8 hours of showdowns a day with an average of 15 kills for each. If he's good (and I expect he is) then he would easily get double that number of kills and do it on 4 hours. kcole4001 and rusbeckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Molio Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, AmyStone said: I don't. This is the RDO forum. Not GTAO. D’oh - that’ll teach me to post from my phone where I can’t see the whole screen properly! Apologies DentureDynamite and kcole4001 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, AmyStone said: I don't. This is the RDO forum. Not GTAO. You are way off with that. You think anyone above rank 300 is using some kind of exploit? I'm afraid you're totally wrong. As far as I know there are no xp exploits otherwise you would see rank 1000s all over the place. Players above 500 are still not common and 600+ is pretty rare. Even the rank 1000 is not ridiculously hight. If he's been playing from the start and getting the 52,000xp per day average then you can easily calculate that it amount to around 8 hours of showdowns a day with an average of 15 kills for each. If he's good (and I expect he is) then he would easily get double that number of kills and do it on 4 hours. Just stating the truth, at this point in the games life, an insanely high rank is 300 or more. Most of these players around these high ranks have used an exploit or two which makes their rank an illegitimate measure. Some glitches give out XP just because whatever the glitch is working on is also giving XP. So according to your calculations, in order to hit rank 1000, someone would have to play showdowns 8 hours a day for over a year to even be close. I am going to say, no one has done that. I dont believe anyone has achieved that rank legitimately. I would need to see a total of approximately 15,000 showdowns played before I even was swayed. 52,000 xp per day is not possible to maintain because everyone has to actually live life, just eating and crapping would prevent this. For the record, that would equal 21 large sales per day. Although it might be possible to hit that amount of xp per day, maintaining that level would cause a person's actual life to be in shambles. Adding insult to injury and just to drive this point home, even if you collect all the collections aside from flowers, the total xp you will get is around 45k....just a mere 13k off xp per day of your calculations. The collector role has only been in the game 5 months. And the collector is a grind, at minimum of 6 hours for an efficient player, how anyone could do this for more than a week straight is baffling. But even the collector grind money totals are actually believable, because the monetary gain is worth it. I means its really not, but at least you can own everything a couple weeks after doing it. Edited February 6, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusbeckia Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Just stating the truth, at this point in the games life, an insanely high rank is 300 or more. Most of these players around these high ranks have used an exploit or two which makes their rank an illegitimate measure. Bullsh*t. A lot of players are playing since day one and achieved a level 300+ easily. most of my friends are between 250-500 and none of them used and xp glitch. a lot of them were lvl 300 BEFORE roles, just by playing showdown. I leveled up from 200-300 in no time since Roles got released. Collections give loads of xp, trader sales give loads of xp add 5 matches of showdown as MVP on top of that and you climb the levels like crazy. Edited February 7, 2020 by rusbeckia aFinn, ALifeOfMisery, Ronin Ogami and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALifeOfMisery Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, rusbeckia said: Bullsh*t Exactly. XP is so easy to accumulate in RDO. There were players here who were well over rank 300 during Beta because they lived in Showdowns. Since roles were introduced it's even easier, you don't need to be good at PvP anymore. Anyone who uses the online collectable map on a daily basis will fly through the ranks. I think players who really grind for XP on a daily basis could easily be rank 600-800, maybe higher, totally legit by now. Edited February 7, 2020 by ALifeOfMisery Ronin Ogami, rusbeckia, aFinn and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Just stating the truth You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I was at rank 300 months ago before doing any collecting. So that was achieved from hunting, story missions, stranger missions and a few showdowns (not many). Rank 300 needs 2,685,950xp. If someone played from day 1 that's 5,968xp per day. You honestly think that's impossible to achieve? If you do then you're an awful player. Edited February 7, 2020 by AmyStone Ronin Ogami and Xtf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Ogami Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 hours ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Just stating the truth, at this point in the games life, an insanely high rank is 300 or more. Most of these players around these high ranks have used an exploit or two which makes their rank an illegitimate measure. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL PHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhTTTTT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL X Box One Player. Rank 364. Played since month two of BETA. Been over 300 so long I forget when I achieved that rank. NEVER. needed anything else but the game, no exploits, maybe an hour or two a day, some days a bit more some a bit less. Still have a full life, a wife who got into RDO recetly, raising three girls, one who's about to be 18, one 12 & one 5, so life's hectic & I still manage time to play. & I often see many people of similar or higher rank than I in showdowns. ALL the time. Are you sure you're playing RDO, or maybe you're just thinking PC/Stadia? those are MUCH newer, so I doubt there'd be 300's there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcole4001 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Jeez, 300 should be pretty easy for long time console players, I'm only on PC and have hit 216. Granted I play a lot, but I'm sure many console players do as well. I have fairly regularly seen mid 200s, so it's even plausible to see a 300 on PC. Edited February 7, 2020 by kcole4001 Xtf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusbeckia Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Anyways... back to topic. I‘ve recently seen someone with level 657 in my session. Also got a friend who is at 554 or so right now with 300.000$ earned LEGIT (2 weeks ago, so probably even more by now). That dude is playing 24/7 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) High chance...anyone over 300 has used glitches..the naviety of you all here...its not surprising. 3 hours ago, AmyStone said: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I was at rank 300 months ago before doing any collecting. So that was achieved from hunting, story missions, stranger missions and a few showdowns (not many). Rank 300 needs 2,685,950xp. If someone played from day 1 that's 5,968xp per day. You honestly think that's impossible to achieve? If you do then you're an awful player. I said 300 is an insanely high rank...and there is a HIGH CHANCE anyone who has this rank has used glitches. 1000 is highly improbable but not impossible at this point to acheive without glitches. I, in fact, acknowledged that theres legit 700. Edited February 7, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Ronin Ogami said: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL PHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhTTTTT LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL X Box One Player. Rank 364. Played since month two of BETA. Been over 300 so long I forget when I achieved that rank. NEVER. needed anything else but the game, no exploits, maybe an hour or two a day, some days a bit more some a bit less. Still have a full life, a wife who got into RDO recetly, raising three girls, one who's about to be 18, one 12 & one 5, so life's hectic & I still manage time to play. & I often see many people of similar or higher rank than I in showdowns. ALL the time. Are you sure you're playing RDO, or maybe you're just thinking PC/Stadia? those are MUCH newer, so I doubt there'd be 300's there already. Good for you not using glitches, but most of these high ranks...do you use them and that delegitimizes their rank. This also effects assessing rank as measure of anything. If a large portion of the player base is using glitches, it renders rank meaningless for all players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, CosmicBuffalo said: I said 300 is an insanely high rank...and there is a HIGH CHANCE anyone who has this rank has used glitches. No it's not and no there isn't. kcole4001 and Xtf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AmyStone said: No it's not and no there isn't. Yes, if you are over 300...your rank is higher than 99-98% of players. This is easily measurable and can be demonstrated by simply looking at players in a lobby. The usage of glitches is more likely for players with high ranks because they actually care about the game...and glitches are rampant. It probably half but nearly impossible to measure. Edited February 7, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyStone Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Yes, if you are over 300...your rank is higher than 99-98% of players. This is easily measurable and can be demonstrated by simply looking at players in a lobby. The usage of glitches is more likely for players with high ranks because they actually care about the game...and glitches are rampant. It probably half but nearly impossible to measure. Then you have just argued against yourself. The fact that 300+ ranks are not very common in lobbies means that not very many achieve it. If it was easy to use an exploit to get to that rank then there would be more because it would be so easy. The usage of glitches is more likely with players of high ranks because they care about the game? People who care about the game are less likely to glitch. I'm sorry but none of what you have posted makes any sense what so ever. There's no point replying to you any more because you are obviously not listening to anything anyone says to you. kcole4001, Ronin Ogami, CMCSAVAGE and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AmyStone said: Then you have just argued against yourself. The fact that 300+ ranks are not very common in lobbies means that not very many achieve it. If it was easy to use an exploit to get to that rank then there would be more because it would be so easy. The usage of glitches is more likely with players of high ranks because they care about the game? People who care about the game are less likely to glitch. I'm sorry but none of what you have posted makes any sense what so ever. There's no point replying to you any more because you are obviously not listening to anything anyone says to you. You will destort anything to fit your shallow view. An xp glitch can be used by lower ranks and no one is arguing high rank used glitches solely to obtain their rank. The two are dependent on the sole basis that a high rank player is more likely to have used glitches simply because of the amount of time they have played the game which incorporates, the availability of glitches and each glitch's usefulness v effort. Having a high rank of 300 is indicative of using glitches because, simply put, the rank indicates a lot of time playing the game which then leads to more exposure and knowledge of glitches nothing more. A rank 300+ has more time invested and I am not disputing that these players invest alot of time. The 1000 rank you were trumpeting as somehow attainable, which is laughable that anyone would seriously believe someone would play 4-8 hours of showdowns 450 days in row, most likely has glitched a lot of xp as some of the most public grinders of collections and showdowns are not close to hitting 1000. Edited February 7, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, CosmicBuffalo said: Yes, if you are over 300...your rank is higher than 99-98% of players. This is easily measurable and can be demonstrated by simply looking at players in a lobby. The usage of glitches is more likely for players with high ranks because they actually care about the game...and glitches are rampant. It probably half but nearly impossible to measure. I've seen quite a lot of 300+ ranks in the lists. It's not an exorbitant high level at all these days. No rank glitching needed at all, nor use of the collectors map to boost your rank. With normal gameplay, many day 1 players could have reached 300+ fairly easy. I haven't reached 300 myself yet, but I do a few easy dailies a day and log off again and I'm a rank 223 day 1 player at the moment. Had I not slacked as much, I'd have reached 300 some time ago already. Direwrath and Ronin Ogami 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said: I've seen quite a lot of 300+ ranks in the lists. It's not an exorbitant high level at all these days. No rank glitching needed at all, nor use of the collectors map to boost your rank. With normal gameplay, many day 1 players could have reached 300+ fairly easy. I haven't reached 300 myself yet, but I do a few easy dailies a day and log off again and I'm a rank 223 day 1 player at the moment. Had I not slacked as much, I'd have reached 300 some time ago already. No, the average lobby of 23-25 players does not include a rank 300 player. I am going to enter 10 random lobbies...and see how many I find. The game is broken, so its taking forever, so far in 5 lobbies...I have seen 3 including myself. Edited February 7, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said: No, the average lobby of 23-25 players does not include a rank 300 player. I am going to enter 10 random lobbies...and see how many I find. The game is broken, so its taking forever, so far in 5 lobbies...I have seen 3 including myself. go check in on pvp modes. You’ll see a lot more of them and higher too. Hopping through 5-10 lobbies to check isn’t even worth much of a test. Ronin Ogami and Xtf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said: go check in on pvp modes. You’ll see a lot more of them and higher too. Hopping through 5-10 lobbies to check isn’t even worth much of a test. What...pvp is not a random selection of players? Free Roam is randomly selected. Also, you are likely to encounter the same player over and over. The pool is also much much much smaller. Edited February 7, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftover Pizza Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, CosmicBuffalo said: What...pvp is not a random selection of players? Free Roam is randomly selected. lol. Anything to suit your view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBuffalo Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said: lol. Anything to suit your view Is pvp a random selection of players? I dont mind doing it for pvp. And I will. Just think that its not random as it misses people who think pvp is trash...which in this game it is. Edited February 7, 2020 by CosmicBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittyuniverse Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, CosmicBuffalo said: You will destort anything to fit your shallow view Breaking from this argument momentarily, can I ask why you have to be so mean about it? It appears initially like a minor disagreement which like everything is entirely arbitrary, and yet.. you are nevertheless so angered that you feel the need to be ridiculing people as shallow and manipulative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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