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[iiCriminnaaL]

• Various story characters and pedestrians that are fat and/or old now fight less efficiently and have lower agility.

Edited May 31, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Angels of Death MC now appears in North Holland only at night and early morning (not in TLAD, though).
• The Mafia now appears in City Hall, Easton, Lancet and Suffolk only at night and early morning.
• The Bratva now appears in Castle Garden City only at night and early morning.
• The Irish Mob now appears in East Island City only at night and early morning.
• The Korean Mob now appears in Castle Gardens only at night and early morning.
• Triads now appear in Rotterdam Hill and The Exchange only at night and early morning, and in East Island City at late night only.

[iiCriminnaaL]

• Gang members can now be seen less frequently in daytime hours in Alderney City.

[iiCriminnaaL]

A new update I've been working on for a few days:

• The streets are now quite busier in daytime hours, and more quiet at night, especially at midnight and late night. Police officers also appear less frequently at night in every district now.

 

I haven't decided yet, but I'm considering to minorly differentiate the weekdays and weekends from each others when it comes to pedestrian, traffic, police and maybe even "scenario" values.

Edited June 10, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• Nights are now slightly busier on weekends than weekdays, police activity is somewhat lower during the weekend nights, and pedestrian scenarios (smoking, sitting, playing yoga, etc) are now somewhat more frequent.

Edited June 13, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Bratva can now be seen in Westminster.

[Jeansowaty]

I got myself thinking, since the Albanians rarely hang out in Hove Beach, maybe the Koreans could also rarely hang out in Chinatown? 

[iiCriminnaaL]

1 hour ago, Jeansowaty said:

I got myself thinking, since the Albanians rarely hang out in Hove Beach, maybe the Koreans could also rarely hang out in Chinatown? 

This seems like a pretty good idea. I don't know how believable it would be, but the "CHINESE_JAPANESE" pedestrian group does include some non-Chinese Asian pedestrians, including some Koreans.

• The Angels of Death MC bikers now appear in BOABO once again, but this time only at night and early morning.
• The Mafia now appears in Northwood (borders only) at late night (the Ancelottis' fueling depot).
• The Korean Mob now appears in Cerveza Heights and Chinatown at night and early morning.

With this, every gang can be seen in Broker/Dukes now. Except for the Uptown Riders in TLAD, though.

Edited June 15, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Lost MC now appear in Westdyke only at night and early morning.
• The Mafia now appears in Castle Gardens.
• The Korean Mob now appears in Westdyke.
• Triads now appear in Alderney City at night and early morning.

@Jeansowatyby the way, I noticed that after I balanced the pedestrian group densities so that they won't exceed 100 (excluding taxis) after adding gang densities, the mafia appearing in areas they aren't supposed to (bridges, tunnels, etc) seems to be fixed.

Edited June 15, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[Jeansowaty]

18 minutes ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

• The Lost MC now appear in Westdyke only at night and early morning.
• The Mafia now appears in Castle Gardens.
• The Korean Mob now appears in Westdyke.
• Triads now appear in Alderney City at night and early morning.

@Jeansowatyby the way, I noticed that after I balanced the pedestrian group densities so that they won't exceed 100 (excluding taxis) after adding gang densities, the mafia appearing in areas they aren't supposed to (bridges, tunnels, etc) seems to be fixed.

Thank you for the fix. I will try implementing it on my game

[Its-SG]

Hello I liked it,

It's my small request that can we add that APC of TBoGT to Vanilla IV. I added that Buzzard fully functional of MINIGUNS, missiles(original missiles) but APC .sco coding is done inside the TBoGT's scripts.img.

I am just asking

[iiCriminnaaL]

1 minute ago, Sgautam said:

Hello I liked it,

It's my small request that can we add that APC of TBoGT to Vanilla IV. I added that Buzzard fully functional of MINIGUNS, missiles(original missiles) but APC .sco coding is done inside the TBoGT's scripts.img.

I am just asking

Honestly, I didn't any new vehicle to my game, let alone the more scripted ones, so I don't really have background of how to add new vehicles to the game properly and completely polished. It's also not really relevant to the mod's objectives, but thanks for your suggestion .

 

Glad that you liked it .

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The hostility between the Albanian Mob and Bratva is no longer one-sided.
• The Albanian Mob now appears in Westminster at night and early morning, and no longer does in The Meat Quarter.
• The Bratva now appears in The Meat Quarter at night and early morning.
• Reduced the Spanish Lords' density value at night and early morning in Alderney City.

I noticed that gang density values must not exceed 30 in order for the game to load all gangs that are set to appear in a certain district, even if the overall pedestrian group densities don't exceed 100.

Edited June 15, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Albanian Mob now appears in Purgatory at night and early morning, and in East Hook at midnight and late night.
• Triads now appear in Charge Island at midnight and late night.

Information of which hours rival gangs crossover in each district have been added to the OP.

Edited June 16, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[Datalvarezguy]

6 hours ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

• The Albanian Mob now appears in Purgatory at night and early morning, and in East Hook at midnight and late night.
• Triads now appear in Charge Island at midnight and late night.

Information of which hours rival gangs crossover in each district have been added to the OP.

The work you put into this mod is criminal, I wish my GTA IV copy still ran just so I could check out the latest updates.

[iiCriminnaaL]

14 hours ago, Datalvarezguy said:

The work you put into this mod is criminal, I wish my GTA IV copy still ran just so I could check out the latest updates.

Thanks .

 

Here's a few more:

• The Albanian Mob can now be seen in Bohan Industrial at night and early morning.
• Yardies can now be seen in Firefly Projects and Acter, and in South Bohan and Tudor at night and early morning.
• Hustlers can now be seen in Beechwood City, and in Presidents City at night and early morning.
• Spanish Lords can no longer be seen in Acter.
• Bums can now be seen less frequently in Middle Park.
• The park group of pedestrians can now be seen in Middle Park at night and early morning.
• Densities of pedestrian groups have been corrected in Firefly Island, South Slopes, Bohan Industrial, Fortside and Middle Park, as the sum of their values (excluding taxi) doesn't equal 100 in all lines.

Edited June 17, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Albanian Mob can now be seen in Lower Easton at night and early morning. Additionally, they can now be seen in Hove Beach only at night and early morning.
• Yardies can now be seen in Steinway and Northwood at night and early morning. Additionally, they can now be seen in Acter only at night and early morning.
• Hustlers can now be seen in Presidents City at any hour of the day, and not only at night and early morning. Additionally, they can now be seen in East Holland only at night and early morning.
• Triads can now be seen in Leftwood only at night and early morning.
• Spanish Lords can now be seen in Cerveza Heights and Presidents City only at night and early morning.

Except in the grimiest and most dangerous neighborhoods (Beechwood City, Firefly Island, South Bohan, North Holland and Northwood), hostile gang members can only cross lines at night and early morning. This applies to Acter as well, due to the police department existing there.

Edited June 18, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Albanian Mob no longer appears in Bohan Industrial.
• The Angels of Death MC no longer appear in BOABO.
• The Mafia now appears in Colony Island only at night and early morning.
• The Bratva now appears in Meadow Hills and Lower Easton only at night and early morning.
• Yardies no longer appear in South Bohan, Northwood and Acter.
• Hustlers now appear in Beechwood City only at night and early morning.
• Spanish Lords no longer appear in Firefly Projects. Additionally, they now appear in Colony Island and North Holland only at night and early morning.
• Police officers can no longer be seen patrolling South Bohan on-foot at night.

After testing it for a not too short time, I found out that Acter doesn't load more than two gangs at the same time. BOABO also doesn't load more than a gang if one of them has a too low value (5 for example), and if it did anyway, The Lost will ride the Angels of Death's bikes rather than their own, which is the case in any district in which both gangs are set to appear in.

Edited June 19, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Lost MC no longer appears in Westdyke.
• The Mafia can now be seen in Fishmarket South. Additionally, now they appear in Downtown Broker, Meadow Hills and Castle Gardens only at night and early morning.
• The Bratva can now be seen in Beachgate and Westminster only at night and early morning. Additionally, now they appear less frequently in Firefly Island.
• The Korean Mob now appears in Westdyke only at night and early morning.

Edited June 19, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

I just encountered a fight between a Yardie and a fat Hustler in Firefly Projects. The Yardie started hassling and punching the Hustler first, not giving the latter a chance to defend himself at first, but as soon as he messed up and accidentally gave the latter a chance to punch him back, he ran away instead of continuing .

 

I don't know if this has anything to do with the fact that his enemy is fatter and heavier than him, but such random scenarios really make the fights feel more diverse, realistic and sometimes funny.

[iiCriminnaaL]

• Hispanic drug dealers (M_Y_Drug_01) can no longer be seen among the South American group of pedestrians.
• The Mafia now appears in Boulevard only at night and early morning, and in Colony Island only at midnight and late night.
• The Bratva now appears in Fishmarket South only at midnight and late night.
• Yardies now appear less frequently in Tudor, and only from evening to morning in Firefly Projects.
• Hustlers now appear in South Bohan only from evening to morning.
• The Korean Mob now appears less frequently in Castle Gardens.
• Triads now appear in Fishmarket South only at night and early morning, and less frequently and only at midnight and late night in Leftwood.
• Spanish Lords now appear in Northwood only from evening to morning.

Edited June 20, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The Albanian Mob now appears in Hove Beach from evening to morning instead of night to early morning.
• The Lost MC now appears in Meadows Park only from evening to morning.
• The Mafia now appears in Meadow Hills, Boulevard, Castle Gardens, Fishmarket South, Alderney City and Berchem only from evening to morning, less frequently in Lancet, and no longer in City Hall.
• The Bratva now appears in Beachgate, Firefly Island and Westminster only from evening to morning, and less frequently in Meadow Hills.
• The Irish Mob now appears in East Island City, Meadows Park and Purgatory only from evening to morning.
• Yardies now they appear in Schottler from evening to morning instead of only at night and early morning.
• Hustlers now appear in Beechwood City and Presidents City only from evening to morning, and less frequently in Schottler.
• The Korean Mob now appears in Northern Gardens only from evening to morning.
• Triads now appear in Lower Easton only from evening to morning, and less frequently and only at midnight and late night in Fishmarket South.
• Spanish Lords now appear in Cerveza Heights, Steinway, Fortside and Leftwood only from evening to morning, and less frequently in Northern Gardens.
• Police officers can now be seen occasionally patrolling Acter on-foot, as well as East Holland and North Holland from morning to night, and Firefly Projects and Northwood in midday hours.

Regarding the last update, it makes the intended neighborhoods feel a little bit safer sometimes, but at the same time it also adds more action aside from gang fights. Police officers are set to appear on-foot, but occasionally, and only in hours in which rival gangs don't cross lines, so that on-foot chases to gang members and other criminals can occur when the district is safe from gang fights.

Edited June 21, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• The hostility between the Albanian Mob and Bratva is now limited to only the Gang faction of the latter, excluding it with the Mob faction (which also leaves Hove Beach almost safe from gang fights in TLAD).
• The Albanian Mob no longer appears in Purgatory and Westminster.
• The Mafia no longer appears in Easton and Lancet, as well as only at night and early morning in Castle Gardens and Alderney City, and only at midnight and late night in Suffolk.
• The Bratva no longer appears in Lower Easton and The Meat Quarter, and less frequently and only at night and early morning in Firefly Island.
• The Irish Mob now appears in East Island City only at night and early morning, and less frequently.
• The Triads now appear in The Exchange only at midnight and late night.
• Spanish Lords now appear in Colony Island only at midnight and late night.

Edited June 22, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• Spanish Lords now act with hostility towards Niko post the mission Undress To Kill, as well as Triads post Truck Hustle.
• Spanish Lords now appear in Acter at night and early morning.
• Following the last update, police officers can no longer be seen patrolling Acter on-foot at night and early morning in vanilla GTA IV.
• The African-American population existing in Acter is no longer a part of the Black Poor group only, but also the Harlem group.

I just noticed that gang relationships still don't work properly in TBOGT. It seems like the "Gangs hassle the player" script gets automatically re-activated post each mission completion for some reason, and I can't figure out how to disable that.

 

Regarding the second update, fortunately, this time it worked properly. All three gangs (The Lost MC, Hustlers and Spanish Lords) showed up in the neighborhood at the same time. I'm not exactly sure what's the issue with Acter when it comes to spawning more than two gangs, but this might have to do with the fact that one of the three gangs should have low density values (Spanish Lords here).

Edited June 24, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[iiCriminnaaL]

• Hostility triggers between The Lost MC and the Triads post Final Interview (vanilla GTA IV) / This Sh*t Is Cursed (TLAD).
• The Angels of Death MC now appears in North Holland only at midnight and late night.
• The Lost MC now appears in Meadow Park only at midnight and late night, and less frequently.
• The Mafia now appears in Meadow Hills and Boulevard less frequently and only at night and early morning, and only at midnight and late night in Downtown Broker.
• The Bratva now appears in Beachgate less frequently and only at night and early morning, and only at midnight and late night in Firefly Island and Meadow Hills.
• The Irish Mob now appears in Meadow Park and Purgatory less frequently and only at night and early morning, and only at midnight and late night in East Island City and Berchem.
• Yardies now appear in Firefly Projects less frequently and only at night and early morning, and only at midnight and late night in Steinway and Tudor.
• Hustlers now appear in Beechwood City less frequently and only at night and early morning.
• The Korean Mob now appears in Cerveza Heights, Castle Gardens and Westdyke only at midnight and late night.
• The Triads no longer appear in Alderney City, less frequently in Cerveza Heights, and only at midnight and late night in Rotterdam Hill.
• Spanish Lords now appear in Presidents City only at midnight and late night.
• Police officers can now be seen patrolling Firefly Projects on-foot from morning to night rather than only midday hours.

Edited June 25, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[Jeansowaty]

Very nice! I'm glad that the gang hostilities can now change depending on where you are in the story. Got a question, could it be possible to also make the Hustlers respect Niko after befriending Dwayne? Like, not exactly after passing The Holland Play, but after being able to get backup from Dwayne.

[iiCriminnaaL]

13 hours ago, Jeansowaty said:

Very nice! I'm glad that the gang hostilities can now change depending on where you are in the story. Got a question, could it be possible to also make the Hustlers respect Niko after befriending Dwayne? Like, not exactly after passing The Holland Play, but after being able to get backup from Dwayne.

That's a very good idea!

 

I've been trying to figure out where exactly I should place the codes in order to get it work this way, in three different script files too: main.sco, dwayne_backup and dwanye_tenpin, but didn't manage to implement it yet.

 

I'll give a try sometime later.

 

For now, I got some pretty good news:

• Gang relationships finally work properly in old save games in vanilla GTA IV. You'll still have to start a new game in order to get the last changes to work, though: Spanish Lords and Triads hostility to Niko post Undress To Kill and Truck Hustle respectively, and hostility between The Lost MC and Triads post Final Interview (GTA IV) / This Sh*t's Cursed (TLAD), as those changes weren't in the default script when those missions have already been completed so that they'll load.
• Fixed some incorrect gang relationships in TLAD's and TBOGTs scripts.

 

EDIT:

 

Regarding the first update, extra files have been added so that you can implement those changes to your game even in old save games.

Edited June 25, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[FranTheftAutoLOL]

Ayy. it's me. I've been busy lately but I finally decided where the Fashion group should spawn from some quick research I decided to do today. I found out that the most fashionable areas in terms of liberty city areas are Middle Park East, Suffolk, Easton, and The Meat Quarter while the Shoppers Rich could spawn around Columbus Avenue which is apparently "Fifth Avenue" in new york aka the most famous shopping street. That means i'm guessing The Exchange, Lower Easton, The Triangle, Star Junction, could be where they spawn. I know that the fashion's pedgrp has weird peds so i'm guessing you can just make your own with some from uptown+shopping rich I guess? It just still feels missing that a fashion group isn't around to spawn more vehicles like the cognoscenti and the akuma which only spawned in that group.

 

Also I forgot to say this but I noticed when I added the bus to spawn in MIDTOWN and BROOKLYN areas, it does it except for the places where they are parked normally. I never seen any busses driving in Downtown Broker, Star Junction or Fishmarket South. I heard they used to be scenarios where they would drive at certain times but I can't seem to find anything about that info. I checked in scenarios.dat and I don't see anything so i'm guessing it's in script.img.

Edited June 26, 2020 by FranTheftAutoLOL

[donnits]

The Jewish Mob doesn't exist. I think this idea started on the GTA Wikia but those "mobsters" Isaac and Mori are just diamond dealers with Italian Mafia connections. They literally just hired some Italians as protection. The rest are just orthodox Jews.

[iiCriminnaaL]

18 hours ago, donnits said:

The Jewish Mob doesn't exist. I think this idea started on the GTA Wikia but those "mobsters" Isaac and Mori are just diamond dealers with Italian Mafia connections. They literally just hired some Italians as protection. The rest are just orthodox Jews.

Now that you mention it, I guess that's right. I don't even remember them to be referred to as the Jewish mob not even once in the game, not even in the LCPD database.

 

They still might be based on New York City based Jewish mobs that primarily work on diamond dealing and trafficking as mentioned in GTA Wiki, but it seems like there isn't a hint of it in the game anyway.

 

Well, at least we can say that they're affiliated to organized crime in general. OP has been edited.

 

Anyway:

• The Triads no longer act with hostility towards Niko post Truck Hustle.

After giving it a second thought, it seemed that it wasn't as believable as it is with the Spanish Lords change. With the former, Niko took out a bunch of Triads and stole some heroin from them, but it still wasn't as serious as killing some important or high-ranking members. They all were more street level gangsters, and weren't operating in a heavily Triad influenced neighborhood when Niko hit on them so that he would be easily recognized by other Triads in other neighborhoods after. Meanwhile with the latter, Niko took out a bunch of Spanish Lords in a strip club that is a front of the gang, which also happens to exist in Bohan - a small borough in which the gang has some heavy influences in. What's also more important is Niko killing its three managers, who also - based on their positions - were high-ranking members of the Spanish Lords.

Edited June 26, 2020 by iiCriminnaaL 49