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  • Albanians mobsters and Midtown Gangsters (Korean Mob) are now hostile towards each others.
  • Italian and Russian mobs are now hostile towards each others.
    Story-wise, it isn't the case with every family of each mob, but given the fact that the Russians (more specifically, the Bulgarin Bratva) will only meet up with the rivaling Gambettis in free roam (in Meadow Hills), it works.
  • Italian and Irish mobs are now hostile towards each others.
  • Albanian mobsters can now be seen in East Island City sometimes at late night.
  • Angels of Death MC bikers can now be seen in Boulevard sometimes at night.
  • Irish mobsters can now be seen in Purgatory sometimes at late night.
  • Midtown Gangsters (Korean Mob) can now be seen in Little Bay sometimes at late night.
  • Spanish Lords can now be seen in Northern Gardens sometimes at late night, as well as in Boulevard from evening to early morning.

Also, just a side note: out of seven neighborhoods in Bohan, not a single one of them is free of gang activity now. At least two different gangs can be seen in five out of seven neighborhoods, where four of them include rival gangs. The safest being Fortside and Industrial, having only the Spanish Lords and Midtown Gangsters respectively, who also appear from evening to early morning, and not 24/7.

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Why are the Albanians now in East Island City? :P Also in case it hasn't been done, the Russians and Albanians should be hostile to each other as well. Yardies should also be hostile to Triads and Albanians as well.

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58 minutes ago, Jeansowaty said:

Why are the Albanians now in East Island City? 😛 Also in case it hasn't been done, the Russians and Albanians should be hostile to each other as well. Yardies should also be hostile to Triads and Albanians as well.

The only reason I set them to spawn there is to see some hostility between them and the McRearies to be honest. Still only at late night, though. Does it make sense for them to be there? Well, it doesn't feel out of place I guess, especially since they (and the Triads) ambush the another gang's (Yardies) drug deliveries all over Broker and Dukes.

 

Yardies are already hostile towards the Albanians and Triads.

 

As for the Russians and Albanians, they aren't hostile towards each others. I can't recall if a rivalry between them exists in the story, but I'll try to look it up.

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There is, notably in multiplayer - Bomb da Base comes to my mind. At least the Gang can be made hostile or something, not sure. I still have a hard time figuring out which gang is which, the Petrovics or the Faustins.

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1 minute ago, Jeansowaty said:

There is, notably in multiplayer - Bomb da Base comes to my mind. At least the Gang can be made hostile or something, not sure. I still have a hard time figuring out which gang is which, the Petrovics or the Faustins.

According to GT Wiki, it's the Petrovics. I'll make them hostile in a while.

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According to GT Wiki, it's the Petrovics. I'll make them hostile in a while.

Yeah, I know, but I meant I can't distinguish whether the Russian Gang or the Russian Mob - who are they? Which one of them is the Petrovic Mob and which is the Faustin Mob? They both appear during missions together like one gang and are allied to Niko during the time he works for Faustin.

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28 minutes ago, Jeansowaty said:

Yeah, I know, but I meant I can't distinguish whether the Russian Gang or the Russian Mob - who are they? Which one of them is the Petrovic Mob and which is the Faustin Mob? They both appear during missions together like one gang and are allied to Niko during the time he works for Faustin.

Both were used for the Faustin/Rascalov Bratva during the story (and not only once). I believe both Russian Mob and Russian Gang belong to both crime families (probably the case with the Bulgarin Bratva as well). Or maybe both belong to the Faustin/Rascalov but only Russian Mob belongs to the Petrovics? Regardless, it's simply that R* wanted to give the Russians more depth by splitting them into richer and more powerful mobsters, and lesser gangsters.

 

I wish they did the same for the Italian Mafia.

 

Anyway:

  • Albanian and Russian mobs are now hostile towards each others.
  • Russian and Irish mobs are now hostile towards each others.
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  • Angels of Death and Russians are now hostile towards each others.
  • Russians and Triads are now hostile towards each others.
  • Yardies and Spanish Lords are now hostile towards each others.
  • The Albanian Mob can now be seen in Northern Gardens from evening to early morning, and not only at late night. Also, they can't be seen in East Island City no longer.
  • Spanish Lords can now be seen in Firefly Projects and Colony Island sometimes at late night. They can also be seen in Northern Gardens 24/7 now, and not only at late night.
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Why are the Yardies and the Spaniards hostile now?

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Just now, Jeansowaty said:

Why are the Yardies and the Spaniards hostile now?

Since they ripped Jacob off when Elizabeta asked him to find some buyers for the coke.

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2 minutes ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

Since they ripped Jacob off when Elizabeta asked him to find some buyers for the coke.

Oh, true. The Spanish Lords are funny as a gang and seem to be very disorganised. I like to think that they are just a collective outfit of Latin gangbanger, similar to the Hustlers.

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  • Certain story characters, police officers, NOOSE, FIB, Italian and Russian mobsters and high-ranking Triads are now more professional in combat.
  • The Albanian Mob now appears in higher numbers in Northern Gardens, and they can now be seen there in every hour of the day.
  • Hustlers now appear in higher numbers in each of South Bohan, Chase Point and East Holland. Also, they can now be seen in Chase Point from evening to morning, and not only at night.
  • Midtown Gangsters now appear in higher numbers in each of Northern Gardens and Little Bay, and they can now be seen there in every hour of the day.
  • Spanish Lords now appear in higher numbers in each of Chase Point, Northern Gardens and East Holland, as well as in South Bohan during daytime hours. Also, they can now be seen in Chase Point in every hour of the day.
  • Bums can now be seen in South Bohan in every hour of the day, and not only at night and early morning. They also can be seen in less hours in Carson Street compared to Tutelo Avenue in Beechwood City.
    Prostitutes can now be seen in less hours in Carson Street compared to Tutelo Avenue in Beechwood City.
  • The bravery of some Street Punks and Jewish mobsters has been somewhat increased.
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  • The Albanian Mob now appears in Schottler from evening to morning.
  • The Lost MC can now be seen in Industrial sometimes at night (due to affiliations with Pretty Boy).
  • The Italian Mafia can now be seen in Grummer Road of Northwood, Tudor and Port Tudor sometimes at night.
  • The Russian Mafia can now be seen in Chase Point (Russian Gang included) from evening to morning, as well as in Charge Island, Acter and Acter Industrial Park sometimes at night.
  • Hustlers can now be seen in Northern Gardens sometimes at night.
  • Triads can now be seen in Fishmarket North sometimes at night.
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How about adding in the AOD into Grummer Road too?

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1 hour ago, Jeansowaty said:

How about adding in the AOD into Grummer Road too?

I already did when I added them to Northwood.

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2 minutes ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:

I already did when I added them to Northwood.

There's so many that I lost track of that, lmao. Thanks!

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Just now, Jeansowaty said:

There's so many that I lost track of that, lmao. Thanks!

Can't blame you, since I lose track sometimes as well 😝.

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  • The Russian Mafia and Triads are no longer hostile towards each others (due to the fact that they can be seen teaming up during The Fixer's Derelict Target assassination mission).
  • The Russian Mafia can now be seen in Industrial (Russian Gang included) from evening to morning, as well as in Fishmarket South (Russian Gang included) sometimes at night.
  • Triads can now be seen in East Island City sometimes at night.
  • Prostitutes can now be seen in South Bohan from evening to early morning.
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  • The Albanian Mob can no longer be seen in Northern Gardens in every hour of the day, but only from evening to morning now.
  • Angels of Death MC bikers can no longer be seen in Willis, Northwood (except for Grummer Road) and Colony Island. They also appear in North Holland only from evening to morning now, and not in every hour of the day. Additionally, they can now be seen in Industrial sometimes at night.
  • The Lost MC now appears in Port Tudor instead of Tudor. Additionally, they can now be seen in Boulevard from evening to morning, and also, they now appear in fewer numbers in Industrial.
  • The Italian Mafia can no longer be seen in Berchem. They can also be seen in Cerveza Heights only at night now. Additionally, they can now be seen in Fortside from evening to morning.
  • Yardies can no longer be seen in Carson Street of Beechwood City.
  • Hustlers can no longer be seen in Schottler and Colony Island. They also appear in Steinway only from evening to morning now.
  • Midtown Gangsters can no longer be seen in Little Bay in every hour of the day, but only from evening to morning now.
  • Spanish Lords can no longer be seen in Firefly Projects, Boulevard and Leftwood. They also no longer appear in Cerveza Heights, Northern Gardens and Northwood in every hour of the day, but only from evening to morning (and in fewer numbers than before). Additionally, they now appear in fewer numbers in Fortside.

Most of these changes were done due to the fact that gang activity started to feel over-exaggerated.

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  • Gang relationships have been tweaked and balanced - paying more attention to which specific crime family meets up with which crime family from a different mob (ex: Italian and Russian Mafia are now neutral, as the Gambettis meet up only with the neutral Bulgarins, but not the rivaling Rascalovs, who on the other hand meet up with the affiliated Ancelottis), taking less on The Lost and Damned's Gang Wars side-mission status as it's most likely non-canon for the most part, and so on. Not only more suitable for the game's tone, but also for the expected behavior between gangs in 2008 New York/Jersey based setting, where they're still violent, but not to the point where they bring too much heat in so many neighborhoods.
  • Gangs now appear in fewer numbers during midday hours than the rest of the day.
  • Albanian mobsters now appear in Hove Beach and Northern Gardens only at night and dawn.
  • The Lost bikers now appear in higher numbers in Acter.
  • Italian mobsters now appear in Alderney City only from evening to midday, and in Suffolk and Lower Easton only at night and dawn. They also appear in fewer numbers during night in Westdyke now.
  • Irish mobsters now appear in East Island City only from evening to morning, and in Leftwood only at night and dawn.
  • Jamaicans now appear in Schottler only from evening to midday. They also appear in fewer numbers in Willis.
  • Hustlers now appear in East Holland and Acter only from evening to midday.
  • Korean mobsters now appear in Northern Gardens only from evening to midday.
  • Triads now appear in Lower Easton only at night and dawn.
  • Spaniards now appear in Chase Point and Alderney City only from evening to midday.
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  • The Italian Mafia is no longer hostile to any gang.
  • The Russian Mob group of the Russian Mafia is no longer hostile to any gang, leaving it only to the Russian Gang group.
    It's more believable to see random street fights with street level gangsters than more intelligent mobsters who're more about business than showing respect in purposeless street battles and shootouts (for the most part anyway), which applies to both Italian and Russian mobsters.
  • Angels of Death MC bikers can now be seen in Acter Industrial Park sometimes at night and dawn.
  • The Italian Mafia can now be seen in Acter Industrial Park sometimes at night and dawn.
  • The Russian Mafia now appears in Downtown Broker (Mob group only), South Bohan and Westdyke (Mob group only) from evening to midday, as well as in Lower Easton (Mob group only) at night and dawn. Additionally, they can now be seen in Acter (Mob group only) from evening to morning, and not only at night and dawn.
  • Two additional criminal pedestrians can now be seen in Bohan's streets.
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On 2/9/2020 at 4:32 PM, iiCriminnaaL 49 said:
  • The Italian Mafia is no longer hostile to any gang.
  • The Russian Mob group of the Russian Mafia is no longer hostile to any gang, leaving it only to the Russian Gang group.
    It's more believable to see random street fights with street level gangsters than more intelligent mobsters who're more about business than showing respect in purposeless street battles and shootouts (for the most part anyway), which applies to both Italian and Russian mobsters.
  • Angels of Death MC bikers can now be seen in Acter Industrial Park sometimes at night and dawn.
  • The Italian Mafia can now be seen in Acter Industrial Park sometimes at night and dawn.
  • The Russian Mafia now appears in Downtown Broker (Mob group only), South Bohan and Westdyke (Mob group only) from evening to midday, as well as in Lower Easton (Mob group only) at night and dawn. Additionally, they can now be seen in Acter (Mob group only) from evening to morning, and not only at night and dawn.
  • Two additional criminal pedestrians can now be seen in Bohan's streets.

Is the main download link updated?

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1 hour ago, Datalvarezguy said:

Is the main download link updated?

Yeah, it is. It’s usually the same link, albeit with updated content.

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  • The Italian Mafia can no longer be seen in Cerveza Heights, Lower Easton and Acter.
  • The Russian Mob can now be seen in Colony Island instead of Lower Easton.
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1 hour ago, Outlaw Biker Viking said:

Awesome mod and thread bro! :)

Thanks bro. I’m glad you liked it 😉.

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  • Instead of setting gangs to appear "from evening to morning" and "at night and dawn", they can now be seen in neighborhoods they have operation in in every hour of the day, albeit more certainly in some hours when it comes to some of them (ex: the Albanian Mob appearing in Hove Beach most certainly at night and dawn. They still appear the rest of the day, but far rarer and more randomly, with only 2 value).
  • Angels of Death MC bikers can now be seen in Francis International Airport (most certainly at night and dawn), as well as in Northwood (not only Grummer Road) and Colony Island, but rarely (2 value for night and dawn, 1 for the rest of the day).
  • The Lost MC bikers can now be seen in Meadows Park and Francis International Airport (most certainly at night and dawn), as well as in Tudor, Normandy and Westdyke, but rarely. Also, they can no longer be seen in Boulevard.
  • The Italian Mafia can now be seen in Cerveza Heights, Lower Easton, Acter and Berchem, but rarely.
  • The Russian Mafia can no longer be seen in Westdyke. Also, they can now be seen in Rotterdam Hill (Mob group only), but rarely.
  • The Irish Mob can no longer be seen in Berchem. Also, they can now be seen in Northwood, but rarely.
  • Yardies can now be seen in South Bohan, but rarely.
  • Hustlers can now be seen in Schottler and Colony Island, but rarely.
  • Triads can now be seen in Rotterdam Hill, but rarely.
  • Spanish Lords can now be seen in Firefly Projects and Leftwood, but rarely.
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  • Gang influences have been re-arranged in the majority of the city's neighborhoods. They can now be found in fewer numbers in/during neighborhoods/certain hours which they shouldn't have a significant influence in, which also affects street hostilities between gangs, and how often they would occur.
    That makes gang activity far more balanced and suitable for the city and the game's tone.
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