Scion Dracos Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Everywhere else in the game if you get into a fist fight or deal with things non violently and the law leaves you alone. In Saint Denis I knocked a guy out, was somehow instantly wanted and then, when I tried to surrender to the police I could not because they were ALREADY shooting at me. Bringing my horse into the city I feel like I'm holding my breath, waiting the entire time for some carriage driver to run her over... and then I get killed by the cops after knocking the dipsh*t out. I can't walk down the street without someone thinking I'm stalking them, reporting me to the police who then try to kill me. Seriously... I need some suggestions because I absolutely HATE Saint Denis. I hate being there. I don't want to do the side missions. I don't want to go anywhere near the place because it is a bloody DEATHTRAP. How the hell do you get through Saint Denis without getting killed over and over and over and over again by the bloody police... cause hell, getting out of the city is nearly impossible once the law is after you. I make for the tracks and twice now I've gotten killed after they shoot the horse out from under me after refusing to accept my surrender after a lady got scared by beard. I hate Saint Denis. Can anyone help get me through it or, even better, find a way to love it? Edited January 15, 2020 by Scion Dracos ten-a-penny, unfairlane, UpTheDowngrade and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 41 minutes ago, Scion Dracos said: Everywhere else in the game if you get into a fist fight or deal with things non violently and the law leaves you alone. In Saint Denis I knocked a guy out, was somehow instantly wanted and then, when I tried to surrender to the police I could not because they were ALREADY shooting at me. Bringing my horse into the city I feel like I'm holding my breath, waiting the entire time for some carriage driver to run her over... and then I get killed by the cops after knocking the dipsh*t out. I can't walk down the street without someone thinking I'm stalking them, reporting me to the police who then try to kill me. Seriously... I need some suggestions because I absolutely HATE Saint Denis. I hate being there. I don't want to do the side missions. I don't want to go anywhere near the place because it is a bloody DEATHTRAP. How the hell do you get through Saint Denis without getting killed over and over and over and over again by the bloody police... cause hell, getting out of the city is nearly impossible once the law is after you. I make for the tracks and twice now I've gotten killed after they shoot the horse out from under me after refusing to accept my surrender after a lady got scared by beard. I hate Saint Denis. Can anyone help get me through it or, even better, find a way to love it? Lead your horse or ride the trolley stag3coach2 and ArthurMorgan 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071049712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U C I D O Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 The wanted system kind of ruins the place. They spent ages creating a beautiful city just to have it spoiled by the terminator-like police force. You shouldn't be shot at for beating people or even worse, stealing a horse by accident. You should be told to either leave the area or surrender unless you have your gun out and aiming. Matt190, El Penguin Bobo, tonko and 10 others 13 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071049780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemoyne outlaw Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 i actually love saint denis. and i dont have the problems you have. at first it was hard to traverse it. but its not that bad now. and as for getting in a fistfight. all you have to do is keep antagonizing someone until they fight back. when they swing first then you can fight them without the law coming. i recommend going to the area near the stables. go antagonize them and the whole group will fight you it is very fun. ArthurMorgan, AutisticTorch, Crawsack and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071049782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jutland Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I’ve never had any major problems in Saint Denis. I just treat it like a real city, I walk more than ride, or take the trolley. Alexlecj and ArthurMorgan 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071049810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecar73 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I love Saint Denis. All the vendors you need in one place. Best tip I can give for getting around is slow down. FanEu7, unfairlane, GrungeNinja and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071049837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwartzxz Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) dude I just lost my sh*t in Saint Denis and started shooting and killing everybody. I was riding on my horse next to some photo studio and 2 guys who were chatting with each other started insulting me. I antagonized them, they said something back, I antagonized them again and then they start shooting at me. I killed them both and somehow there wasnt anybody else on that street. no witness. 5 seconds later Im on a different street and suddenly there is a witness. in reality that guy could have heard the gunshots and thats it. he doesnt know who was shooting or if anybody was killed. but of course he reports the crime maybe 10 seconds later and immediately I ran into a lawman who already knows not only that I killed somebody but also my name too. I f(u)cking hate the witness system. its garbage. whoever the bastard is that thought this witness system works good and should be left like this in the game deserves a slap in the face. Edited January 15, 2020 by Schwartzxz Ironside, ten-a-penny, crazedZ10 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripstart01 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I also hate Saint Denis, but not for the same reasons. For the games most advanced city, there is NOTHING to do there, you play poker or buy clothes. There are very few enterable buildings or things to see. Once you have been there a couple of times and completed the 'random' encounters, it is just totally lifeless. The only reason I go there now is to get into a massive brawl in the alleyway by the stables, then take a photo after I've knocked out at least 50 people. This is going to sound racist but it's exactly what happens.. if you go at night and there are no white peds around, you get away with fighting as many people as you like. A few times I have gotten away with murdering at least 30 people with a knife. As soon as a white guy sees a huge brawl or if you have stabbed someone, instant witnesses. ten-a-penny, Liberty-TG, crazedZ10 and 4 others 7 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 12 hours ago, racecar73 said: I love Saint Denis. All the vendors you need in one place. Best tip I can give for getting around is slow down. But no hotel? Agree about going slow though. gta111 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm Beer Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 You can play poker and stay / bathe in the saloon on the corner near the centre of town. Taterman 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoona Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Ripstart01 said: I also hate Saint Denis, but not for the same reasons. For the games most advanced city, there is NOTHING to do there, you play poker or buy clothes. There are very few enterable buildings or things to see. Once you have been there a couple of times and completed the 'random' encounters, it is just totally lifeless. The only reason I go there now is to get into a massive brawl in the alleyway by the stables, then take a photo after I've knocked out at least 50 people. This is going to sound racist but it's exactly what happens.. if you go at night and there are no white peds around, you get away with fighting as many people as you like. A few times I have gotten away with murdering at least 30 people with a knife. As soon as a white guy sees a huge brawl or if you have stabbed someone, instant witnesses. I agree... it's a shame really ;( It could have been so much more. Edited January 16, 2020 by Yoona Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
horns Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I usually walk around the city because on horseback I always trigger people. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 If you want to ride your horse fast stay on the trolley tracks. unfairlane, Taterman and ten-a-penny 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071050926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taterman Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 22 hours ago, Hmmm Beer said: You can play poker and stay / bathe in the saloon on the corner near the centre of town. Cool, thank you! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071051543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Don't use a horse. Walk everywhere Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071051552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hmmm Beer Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 It's weird, St Denis. Impressive to look at but not a lot to do really. It should be better than it is. When I'm there I kind of enjoy it but am usually quite glad to leave. That's exactly the sentiment in the game from Arthur and Dutch too. Coleco, Ironside, Cutter De Blanc and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071051621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I hate how I'll go there for like five minutes to get my hair cut or something and end up spending like 3 hours there CalgaryJay, Blad3lv, Taterman and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071052961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_1983 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Never had any problem with Saint Denis or riding my horse around. I use the tram tracks. I don't like the city anyway, I'm like John, I prefer the wide open spaces and simple folk lol. ten-a-penny, Cyper and Ironside 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071053430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeventyRanger42 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I don't know if it was on purpose or accident, but Rockstar nailed it with the oppresive atmosphere of Sandy Knee and how it repelled cowboys and the players themselves. Whenever I am on RDO and decide to spawn on Lemoyne I always go to Rhodes, 'cause its one of the most simple towns in the game and nails the Wild West theme. Ironside, ten-a-penny and Taterman 3 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071053463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faltskogian Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 The Saint Denis tourist board should stick that quote on a poster... 'Come To Saint Denis It's Bloody Awful' Zello and Taterman 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071055472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstone Lazarus Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 If a bitch tried to report me to the law just because I insulted a street urchin, then R* failed really hard Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071059896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The city itself is a nice place to be in but as said above, it's the dumb wanted system that ruins it. I've already said this in previous threads but I was just trying get my photo taken, and two guys start antagonizing me, so I did the same as anyone else would do. Now, considering that THEY attacked me first, I fought back, (i didn't even kill them, I just knocked them out), and the next thing you know, I'm getting shot at for "unarmed assault". Now I can excuse the GTA franchise for trying to get the player for self-defense because no one will remember your crimes and you can lose the cops easily. Now for a game like RDR2 which HEAVILY depends on realism, this is f*cking frustrating when you have a bounty tacked onto you. ten-a-penny, Taterman, Ironside and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071063386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyper Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The place is crowded, what do you expect? It's a booming city. Having less pedestrians would make the city feel dead. Further, Saint Denis is part of ''the civilized world'', meaning high presence of police, law and order. If you get wanted in Saint Denis my suggestion is this: flee into the alleys. Find a hiding spot. Wait. If you rush though the city when wanted, things get even more bad. Crawsack 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071063493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyxTx Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) On 1/15/2020 at 1:24 PM, ~INDIO~ said: The wanted system kind of ruins the place. They spent ages creating a beautiful city just to have it spoiled by the terminator-like police force. You shouldn't be shot at for beating people or even worse, stealing a horse by accident. You should be told to either leave the area or surrender unless you have your gun out and aiming. I think it's been fixed, but it used to be you'd be reported for horse theft when you left the stable on your own horse (online). Happened in Valentine too. Edited January 30, 2020 by StyxTx ten-a-penny 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071064189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Saint Denis is a beautiful place but the law f*cking ruins it. The people in there are also overly sensitive. A few hours ago I was riding at night, and Saint Denis is a ghost town at night, for whatever reason, I get wanted and have to escape, then pay a $50 bounty. Then I was simply running, and a person didn't like that I ran, so they tried to beat me up even when I try to defuse the situation. I beat him up, someone reports me to the law and I had to run again, $75 bounty. This time, it's not Saint Denis' fault, but also the game. I walk out of the saloon and try to get on my horse, but lord and behold, the same button for you to get on a horse is the same one that you use to grab someone. I accidentally grabbed someone since they were standing outside the saloon, someone reported, you know the rest, another $50 bounty. I swear, PS2 era GTA-clones had better wanted systems than this. KGBeast 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071070313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
areyouchappin Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The only time I hate Saint Denis is during PvP matches. I'm so sick of playing on that map.. Docks side or the Houses side.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071070409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter De Blanc Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 NOT okay when one of the fine workers at the dock punches me in the face, I run, and then get an Unarmed Assault charge. Literally, he hit me, and I did not hit him back. WANTED: UNARMED ASSAULT UpTheDowngrade and Taterman 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071070445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheDowngrade Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said: NOT okay when one of the fine workers at the dock punches me in the face, I run, and then get an Unarmed Assault charge. Literally, he hit me, and I did not hit him back. WANTED: UNARMED ASSAULT sh*t's broken. Taterman 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071070575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badman_ Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Call me a noob, but I have a stress issue with Saint Denis because of the damn horse. Streets are too narrow and I keep getting close to the NPCs horses... then the "Jump On Horse" option appears and it locks both horses side by side. The only way I know how to unblock the thing is by speeding up, but then I just run over someone and the law is called. UltraGizmo64 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071070808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstone Lazarus Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Gummy said: I swear, PS2 era GTA-clones had better wanted systems than this. Watch Dogs 2 and Mafia 2 are the two game i can think of where the wanted system is a million lightyears ahead better than any R* games ever Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/944379-saint-denis-is-bloody-awful/#findComment-1071070809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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