Is GTA Online Still Fun?

[nealmac]

45 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

A fact is that not all people who buy sharkcards do it because theyre frustrated with the game or want to skip bullsh*t.....a lot of people don't have the time to invest in mission grinding...blah blah.

I don't have the time or energy to reply to all the bullsh*t that your post has to offer, but I thought this was an absolute gem. I mean, buying shark cards because someone doesn't have the time to invest in grinding is actually (wait for it)....skipping the bullsh*t.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Some people here need to educate themselves:

 

 

 

[TheGhostFromPast]

26 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

^ ^

Your post is nonsense and doesn't even reply to the quote you posted.  lol  I mean did you prove what I said in your quote wrong?  and no I don't know how I look telling people to f*ck off for having a life because I never told anyone that.  Please find that quote or get off my stick putting words in my mouth just so you can rant your opinion.   I also never said anything in favor of videogames turning people into paid slaves.  Puttin words in my mouth again wtf?  I just spoke on the entitlement because clearly a lot are.  Unless you're claiming that ZERO people are entitled then idk wtf your arguing.  I have a life,  job,  kids,  etc and play only a few hours a day like most of you whiners so I think I'm in good position to speak on entitlement but hey guess my experience don't count.

Right now I'm wondering if you really understand things only when someone is hitting hard your waffles with a blackboard or you just pretend that you don't understand?! 

 

First of all I'm sorry but you're so full of nonsense. Coming here telling people their complaints aren't legitimate and this is based on what?! On the fact that these people have a life outside the internet?! Do you realize how arrogant that sounds?! Do you realize that you sound like a someone, who has so much free time that you have no idea how to spend it, even if it's not true?! I don't have any problems with fact that people have a lot of free time, but be so kind and stop telling hard working people that their complaint isn't legitimate only because they have a life outside the internet!

 

Secondly do you even think before you write or you just shoot out the first thought which comes into your mind without thinking how it may actually sound?! People, who doesn't have so much free time, are complaining that this game is a grinding festival and what you do?! You tell them their complaint isn't legitimate only because they don't have enough time for grinding in video games, which actually is more or less in favor of video games turning people into paying slaves, at least it can make people think that you support attempts to turn people into video game slaves and/or that people should ignore or even accept such attempts!  

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by TheGhostFromPast

[Guest]

1 hour ago, YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE said:

Again, it's actually a legit complain. Obviously, people who spent a larger ammount of time playing the game should have an inherent advantage against those who don't, that's fair. What's not fair is when said advantage is so lopsided it forces people to play way more than what they can or should just to keep up with the Joneses.

Excuse me but did you buy this game to finish it in a day,  week or even month?  I personally expect to get years out of this game so never had a rush to get millions quick.  If you bought this game expecting years of play then I'm not sure what playing "more than you should" is.

 

Really? What about some Contact Missions like High Priority Case? The original Heists? Literally every single I/E mission? The Doomsday Heist? The Casino Missions? CEO Work like Headhunter? Way too many resupply and sourcing missions to count too. v R* thinks that cranking up both the health and accuracy of NPCs to absurd levels = hard, when actually, it's just a lazy way to make missions more frustating than what they already can be, even more when other players can be involved (like in sourcing, resupply and sale missions).

Sounds like you just cant find a way to make the missions easy.  Need some tips?  Heres one,  you can make your own solo public lobbies so quit complaining about player interference.

 

Except that's actually a fact, not exclusive to this game, but to every single game with microtransactions. For microtransactions to actually work, people need to be enticed to buy them and what better way to do it than to make the game as boring, unbalanced and frustating as possible so people say "f*ck this" and buy microtransactions instead? Videogames nowadays are designed from the ground up to be boring on purpose so people would rather spent more money on them in order to make them more fun, and that's an undeniable fact.

Sorry but you claimed that EVERYONE buys sharkcards because the game is boring and tedious but that's not a fact.  you forget you acknowledged earlier that a lot of people just don't have a lot of time to invest.  How can someone who barely plays also find the game boring and tedious.  Two different groups here bud.  You cant use both to support your argument.

 

Nope, you meant "spoiled", I meant "legally owed to", big difference.

Semantics lol  No difference in the way its being used here tho which is my point.  You think you should get more point blank even tho you already received more than what you paid for.

 

And nope, this game's updates aren't truly "free", you either pay for them with your time or with buying Shark Cards.

lol

 

I bought the game, ergo, that literally entitles me to a good game and I will reclaim what I paid for.

So your initial $60 paid for all the DLCs R* gave us too?

 

Instead of actually putting up a proper counterargument, you rather just tell others to shut the hell up and stop playing.

False.  A proper argument as well as suggestions and advice to help your problems are always presented but you guys reject them THEN people say "well ok then quit playing" but twist it how you like.

 

By your same logic, if you don't like people rightfully complaining about issues of this game here on this forum, you know, a place meant for discussion, why don't you leave then?

Except the thing is we aren't the ones complaining.  You are.

 

There's games that are even older than this one, like Runescape, World of Warcraft and even Minecraft, yet those keep getting updated and revamped from time to time. Meanwhile, GTA O barely has 7 years old yet it still has issues from all the way down to 2013. Completely unacceptable.

What others games do is irrelevant.  That's a strawman argument.  GTA is not like other games.  It still has issues that need fixed but nothing that ruins my play so Im good.

 

Nope, what makes you part of the problem is calling the people who have legitimate complains about the game as "whiners" or "entitled".

I thought your problem was with R* payouts,  the grinding,  sharkcards,  etc.  How is me calling people whiners part of that when its after the fact?

1 hour ago, nealmac said:

I don't have the time or energy to reply to all the bullsh*t that your post has to offer, but I thought this was an absolute gem. I mean, buying shark cards because someone doesn't have the time to invest in grinding is actually (wait for it)....skipping the bullsh*t.

lol  You just couldn't come up with a good reply I get it.  BS to you is not BS to someone else.  The person buying sharkcards must see grinding as BS before you can claim he is purchasing the card to skip the BS.  Fact,  some people like grinding so its possible a sharkcard buyer wouldn't see grinding as BS if he had time to do it.  You're doing the same as the rest.  Lumping everyone into one group to try and give your opinion weight. lol

 

@TheGhostFromPast

I wont even reply to you anymore.  You don't even respond correctly to the quotes.  You just quote then say whatever ignoring everything in the quote.   I asked for you to verify your false claims you made of me but nope.  I also made points that you didn't even counter.  Enjoy your day.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by BumpyJohnson

[TheGhostFromPast]

@BumpyJohnson

 

 

Let me guess! Even after your latest post you still think that you aren't saying anything in favor of video games turning people into paying slaves?! 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by TheGhostFromPast

[Gettin up]

The problem is GTA Online has too many things to buy and some people would want to have them all without paying any real money.

The truth is they are not going to cut mictrotransactions from their game at this point.

 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

21 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Excuse me but did you buy this game to finish it in a day,  week or even month?  I personally expect to get years out of this game so never had a rush to get millions quick.  If you bought this game expecting years of play then I'm not sure what playing "more than you should" is.

I didn't expect to finish this game at all in the first place, because it has no endgame at all, but nice assumption.

 

23 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Sounds like you just cant find a way to make the missions easy.  Need some tips?  Heres one,  you can make your own solo public lobbies so quit complaining about player interference.

Again, another baseless assumption, I know how to cheese my way through missions if I choose to, the truth is that I shouldn't have to.

 

And yes, the good ol' "just get a solo public session" adage. Guess what? You shouldn't have to literally avoid other players at all costs in order to make some missions actually bearable. That's a symptom of sh*tty game design.

 

26 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Sorry but you claimed that EVERYONE buys sharkcards because the game is boring and tedious but that's not a fact.  you forget you acknowledged earlier that a lot of people just don't have a lot of time to invest.  How can someone who barely plays also find the game boring and tedious.  Two different groups here bud.  You cant use both to support your argument.

I mean, you're right, not everyone buys Shark Cards to avoid the deliberately unfun parts of the game, I'll give you that, but let's not ignore the fact that at least a sizable part of the people who buy them do it for said exact reason.

 

27 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Semantics lol  No difference in the way its being used here tho which is my point.  You think you should get more point blank even tho you already received more than what you paid for.

Semantics or not, words have different meanings depending on context. But whatever suits your argument.

 

And yeah, I paid for this game, I have the right to demand to get anything else that gets added for free if i choose to (which I don't, because that's an unreasonable thing to ask), because I'm a customer and the customer is always right. Another fact.

 

30 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

lol

Great retort mate, but it's true. Can you get GTA Online without buying GTA V? Nope. Can you get things ingame for free without either wasting your time or your rl money? Nope. Ergo, not truly free as you claim to.

 

31 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

So your initial $60 paid for all the DLCs R* gave us too?

Nope, but it entitled me to all future updates that R* adds to the game.

 

31 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

False.  A proper argument as well as suggestions and advice to help your problems are always presented but you guys reject them THEN people say "well ok then quit playing" but twist it how you like.

I mean, you're the one who's twisting telling people who have a gripe with the game's design should just stop playing altogether is somehow a suggestion made in good faith, when it isn't, at all. Even a simpler "stfu" is a more honest and direct sentiment.

 

34 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

What others games do is irrelevant.  That's a strawman argument.  GTA is not like other games.  It still has issues that need fixed but nothing that ruins my play so Im good.

Not really, GTA Online has lasted long enough to the point that can and should be compared with games with similar life spans.

 

And no, just because you don't face the same issues as the rest of the playerbase in a daily basis it doesn't mean that said issues don't exist.

 

36 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

I thought your problem was with R* payouts,  the grinding,  sharkcards,  etc.  How is me calling people whiners part of that when its after the fact?

If your go to response to people making a sensible, well thought post about some of the issues this game still has is to say "stop whining or stop playing", that's being disingenous at best and wilfully obtuse and outright hateful at worst.

 

So yes, you're part of the problem, not only to me, but for anyone else that truly cares about this game.

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

@BumpyJohnson

 

 

Let me guess! Even after your latest post you still think that you aren't saying anything in favor of video games turning people into paying slaves?! 

 

Don't guess show me where I'm in favor of it.  While you're at it show me what part of the first quote you made of me was false.  Also,  show me when I told people to f*ck off for having a life.

 

6 minutes ago, YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE said:

I didn't expect to finish this game at all in the first place, because it has no endgame at all, but nice assumption.

Yep and my assumption was spot on as nobody expects to finish this game quick which is my point.  There is no "more time than it should" as you claimed?

 

Again, another baseless assumption, I know how to cheese my way through missions if I choose to, the truth is that I shouldn't have to.

"Shouldn't have to" is just your opinion tho yes?  And how is my assumption baseless when it comes directly from you quoted complaints.

 

And yes, the good ol' "just get a solo public session" adage. Guess what? You shouldn't have to literally avoid other players at all costs in order to make some missions actually bearable. That's a symptom of sh*tty game design.

See nothing makes you happy.  You complain about players interfering with your sales.  Then when given a solution you complain you shouldn't have to be in a session without said interference.  This is why people tell you to quit playing.  They try to help and you just shoot it down and continue crying.

 

I mean, you're right, not everyone buys Shark Cards to avoid the deliberately unfun parts of the game, I'll give you that, but let's not ignore the fact that at least a sizable part of the people who buy them do it for said exact reason.

I never ignored this fact.  I simply argued that's its not all and absolute like you guys claim.  Yall twisted that into me being 100% for sharkcards lol

 

Semantics or not, words have different meanings depending on context. But whatever suits your argument.

Exactly,  and my point was you're using the word to fit your argument and not the actual context.

 

And yeah, I paid for this game, I have the right to demand to get anything else that gets added for free if i choose to (which I don't, because that's an unreasonable thing to ask), because I'm a customer and the customer is always right. Another fact.

Now you're just being ridiculous lol

 

Great retort mate, but it's true. Can you get GTA Online without buying GTA V? Nope. Can you get things ingame for free without either wasting your time or your rl money? Nope. Ergo, not truly free as you claim to.

Bad retort mate.  You bought the game to play it with the full understanding that playing it gives money which can be used to buy things.  Now you're saying "playing the game" is "wasting time".  I personally don't consider the time I planned to spend on the game anyway a waste.

 

I mean, you're the one who's twisting telling people who have a gripe with the game's design should just stop playing altogether is somehow a suggestion made in good faith, when it isn't, at all. Even a simpler "stfu" is a more honest and direct sentiment.

When did I tell someone to stop playing the game or to f*ck off?  Im still waiting on one of you to show me.

 

And no, just because you don't face the same issues as the rest of the playerbase in a daily basis it doesn't mean that said issues don't exist.

All I did was say that "I'm" good as far as my experience.  I never said issues don't exist. 

 

So yes, you're part of the problem, not only to me, but for anyone else that truly cares about this game.

but again,  I thought your problem was with R* payouts,  the grinding,  sharkcards,  etc.  These existed BEFORE my "part" was even introduced.  My "part" is a reaction to YOUR reaction so how then is it a part of the initial problem?

I'm leaving this alone.  You guys can have it.  Yall adding words in my mouth,  not responding directly to whats being quoted,  etc lol  I understand you guys are upset with R* and I shared the same anger at one point.  Instead of staying stuck in complain mode waiting on R* to fix sh*t I took the time to learn ways around my problems.  Now I play stress free. Never bought a sharkcard and never will.  Hopefully you guys can find the same relief one day.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by BumpyJohnson

[TheGhostFromPast]

11 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Don't guess show me where I'm in favor of it.  While you're at it show me what part of the first quote you made of me was false.  Also,  show me when I told people to f*ck off for having a life.

 

 

Then don't tell me that my complaint isn't legitimate just because I have a life outside the internet!  Show you?! What are you?! 5 years old child, who needs spoon-feeding?!  Fine, I'll show you!

 

 

These are the ways how to indirectly say frack off with your complaints: 

  

On 2/16/2020 at 8:10 PM, BumpyJohnson said:

Yep because I make it fun.  Every complaint I've seen theres a solution.  If you're not having fun its because you're a boring hermet. Get you some friends and think of stuff to do.  Control your experience people.

  

On 2/17/2020 at 6:54 PM, BumpyJohnson said:

You only being able to play 2-4 hours a week is not a legitimate complaint towards the games' payouts.  The game is designed for the majority who play daily.

 

[TheGhostFromPast]

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

@TheGhostFromPast

I wont even reply to you anymore.  You don't even respond correctly to the quotes.  You just quote then say whatever ignoring everything in the quote.   I asked for you to verify your false claims you made of me but nope.  I also made points that you didn't even counter.  Enjoy your day.

 

 

Oh, I see I've hit your waffles so hard that now all you have to say is the classic good old I'm not talking to you anymore.  You aren't countering anything here and you don't respond correctly to the quotes.  All you do is indirectly saying that complaints aren't legitimate just because people don't have enough time to dedicate for grinding festival and that they should keep their complaints to themselves even if those complaints are very damn justified, which I can't say about your opinion!

Edited February 19, 2020 by TheGhostFromPast

[Pedinhuh]

The f*ck is going on over here?

[TheGhostFromPast]

1 minute ago, Pedinhuh said:

The f*ck is going on over here?

 

Errmm… nothing interesting.

[junkpile]

Right now yes. 

I stood away from GTAO for a while and when I joined I did daily objectives and ceo missions. 

All dlc content is new to me and I really enjoy having a sweet nightclub with money income. 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

1 hour ago, Gettin up said:

The problem is GTA Online has too many things to buy and some people would want to have them all without paying any real money.

The truth is they are not going to cut mictrotransactions from their game at this point.

And they shouldn't, after all, Shark Cards are what keep this game alive, for better or worse.

 

IMO, there can be a balance between ingame payouts and priced being fair and Shark Cards actually being fairly priced and habe actual good value, but right now, said balance is almost non existent.

 

People who would rather grind get f*cked, people who would rather pay get ripped off and the only one who's winning here are Take Two and R*.

 

11 minutes ago, Pedinhuh said:

The f*ck is going on over here?

Same old song and dance, don't worry about it.

Edited February 19, 2020 by YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

Oh, I see I've hit your waffles so hard that now all you have to say is the classic good old I'm not talking to you anymore.  You aren't countering anything here and you don't respond correctly to the quotes.  All you do is indirectly saying that complaints aren't legitimate just because people don't have enough time to dedicate for grinding festival and that they should keep their complaints to themselves even if those complaints are very damn justified, which I can't say about your opinion!

Look at your posts especially the first one.  Its clear who is bothered and resorting to short posts because they have no real rebuttals.  lol  I've countered everything you guys came with and in depth but all you guys did was quote me and don't even respond to the actual quote,  just rant your opinion.  lol 

 

Nothing indirect.  I come straight to yall and yes Imo not being able to play a lot is not a legit complaint towards the payouts.  The game is not catered to your life or playtimes.  Its catered to the masses who play it daily and once again you putting words in my mouth.  I never told anyone to keep their complaints to themselves and be satisfied.  Please show me where I said this or you're just making sh*t up just to argue against.  This forum smh

Edited February 19, 2020 by BumpyJohnson

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Yep and my assumption was spot on as nobody expects to finish this game quick which is my point.  There is no "more time than it should" as you claimed?

Except that it isn't, it's obvious that almost no one expects to "finish" this ever increasing game in a short ammount of time.

 

And yes, some people play way more than they should, AFKing is a good example of it.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

"Shouldn't have to" is just your opinion tho yes?  And how is my assumption baseless when it comes directly from you quoted complaints.

Not only an opinion, but an objetive fact, if the only way to cheese through missions is with things like the Armored Kuruma, Deluxo and Oppresor Mk II, not only that kills variety, it also shows that some missions are so poorly designed, people would rather speed through those.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

See nothing makes you happy.  You complain about players interfering with your sales.  Then when given a solution you complain you shouldn't have to be in a session without said interference.  This is why people tell you to quit playing.  They try to help and you just shoot it down and continue crying.

Again, solo public sessions aren't a solution, they're a workaround. Do griefers, tryhards and overpowered vehicles cease to exist when I get into a solo public session? Nope, they just happen to be away from me, hence not a true solution.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

I never ignored this fact.  I simply argued that's its not all and absolute like you guys claim.  Yall twisted that into me being 100% for sharkcards lol

I never claimed that 100% of people who buy Shark Cards do it for that exact reason, but ok.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Exactly,  and my point was you're using the word to fit your argument and not the actual context.

The pot calling the kettle black.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Now you're just being ridiculous lol

And now you're just being a dick.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Bad retort mate.  You bought the game to play it with the full understanding that playing it gives money which can be used to buy things.  Now you're saying "playing the game" is "wasting time".  I personally don't consider the time I planned to spend on the game anyway a waste

Yeah, I bought the game full knowing that this game was in the grindy side of things, that doesn't mean that I can't speak up when R* crosses the line though.

 

And no, just because you don't consider the time you put on the game as "wasted time" it doesn't mean that certain missions and game mechanics are literally made in order to make you waste as much time as possible not doing anything meaningful or fun.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

When did I tell someone to stop playing the game or to f*ck off?  Im still waiting on one of you to show me.

Here:

 

16 hours ago, YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE said:

- I don't think its an argument tho.  I think its more of a suggestion since you are not happy and nothing will be done about your complaints.

 

To tell people to stop complaining and stop playing because they will never be heard has the same implication than just telling them to stop playing and f*ck off.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

All I did was say that "I'm" good as far as my experience.  I never said issues don't exist. 

Except that your experience doesn't speak for everyone else's. To be fair, neither mine does, but still, I'm not the one who's ignoring the issues this game has on purpose.

 

1 hour ago, BumpyJohnson said:

but again,  I thought your problem was with R* payouts,  the grinding,  sharkcards,  etc.  These existed BEFORE my "part" was even introduced.  My "part" is a reaction to YOUR reaction so how then is it a part of the initial problem?

My problems are with both how R* has monetized this game at expense of both good design and a healthy playerbase and also with the people who grasp at straws in order to defend this f*cked up status quo for whoever knows what reason.

 

So yeah, unless you recognize that this game has issues that need to be fixed and actively campaign for them, you'll always going to be part of the problem.

[TheGhostFromPast]

9 minutes ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Look at your posts especially the first one.  Its clear who is bothered and resorting to short posts because they have no real rebuttals.  lol  I've countered everything you guys came with and in depth but all you guys did was quote me and don't even respond to the actual quote,  just rant your opinion.  lol 

 

Nothing indirect.  I come straight to yall and yes Imo not being able to play a lot is not a legit complaint towards the payouts.  The game is not catered to your life or playtimes.  Its catered to the masses who play it daily and once again you putting words in my mouth.  I never told anyone to keep their complaints to themselves and be satisfied.  Please show me where I said this or you're just making sh*t up just to argue against.  This forum smh

I'm wondering if right now I should look for aspirin or for that blackboard so that I could hit someone's waffles even more harder?! 

 

 

What happened with I won't talk with you anymore?! It seems that you can't even stick to your words!

 

At first look on yourself! Once again you said complaint isn't legitimate only because people have a life outside the internet and you refuse to see how wrong it is to say something like that! The fact that it's designed to turn people into mindless zombies who are grinding non-stop 24/7 is a problem! And you calling people boring hermet just because they aren't mindless zombies, who will happily accept everything what others throw at them, isn't solving this problem! 

 

 

I already showed you, won't do that again!  And correction, you never told that directly, but you did that indirectly!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE said:

Not only an opinion, but an objetive fact, if the only way to cheese through missions is with things like the Armored Kuruma, Deluxo and Oppresor Mk II, not only that kills variety, it also shows that some missions are so poorly designed, people would rather speed through those.

lol

 

Again, solo public sessions aren't a solution, they're a workaround. Do griefers, tryhards and overpowered vehicles cease to exist when I get into a solo public session? Nope, they just happen to be away from me, hence not a true solution.

Do those griefers and tryhards exist in your session after going solo tho?  Nope,  hence a solution to your "inteferrence" problem unless of course you're claiming they interfere with your game from other sessions.

 

I never claimed that 100% of people who buy Shark Cards do it for that exact reason, but ok.

You used the word "everyone" multiple times but ok.

 

And no, just because you don't consider the time you put on the game as "wasted time" it doesn't mean that certain missions and game mechanics are literally made in order to make you waste as much time as possible not doing anything meaningful or fun.

And on the flip side just because YOU consider the time you put into the game "wasted time" doesn't mean it is.  Certain missions are made that way yes but are you forced to play them all?  There are plenty of missions worth the time.

 

Here:

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To tell people to stop complaining and stop playing because they will never be heard has the same implication than just telling them to stop playing and f*ck off.

lol  Nowhere in this quote am I myself telling people to do anything.  You really going to reach like this?  lol  I simply explained why I think "other" people are saying this which is because you guys will never be happy and R* wont do anything about them.  As you said theres still many untouched issues in the game now.  Yet when I say R* wont fix something its somehow different?

 

Except that your experience doesn't speak for everyone else's. To be fair, neither mine does, but still, I'm not the one who's ignoring the issues this game has on purpose.

Except I've never once stated my personal experience speaks for everyones'.  I simply used my experience to debunk the claims that someone with a job,  life,  etc don't have time to play and has a legit complaint towards payouts.  My experience isn't rare either.  I also never ignored any issue either so who do you speak of?  I recall acknowledging the issues on multiple occasions and even suggested ways around them.  Im confused.

 

So yeah, unless you recognize that this game has issues that need to be fixed and actively campaign for them, you'll always going to be part of the problem.

Your problem is with R* not players who dont campaign.  Nobody should be judged if they dont cry over the game or hate R* like you.  Many people as well as myself have issues with the game but unlike you and the other complainers we simply took it upon oursevles and did something about it.  Control your own experience people and play stress free or keep whining your choice. Peace

1 hour ago, TheGhostFromPast said:

I'm wondering if right now I should look for aspirin or for that blackboard so that I could hit someone's waffles even more harder?! 

Nah you need to look for some sense because you're not making any right now. lol

 

What happened with I won't talk with you anymore?! It seems that you can't even stick to your words!

Right I was but you made another false claim I had to debunk and I also feel I need to expose your repeated action of putting words in my mouth then arguing against them AND your refusal to answer my request to present proof of said claims.  Why do you continue to ignore my request?  I mean if you're going to say I said something you need back up that claim.

 

At first look on yourself! Once again you said complaint isn't legitimate only because people have a life outside the internet and you refuse to see how wrong it is to say something like that! The fact that it's designed to turn people into mindless zombies who are grinding non-stop 24/7 is a problem! And you calling people boring hermet just because they aren't mindless zombies, who will happily accept everything what others throw at them, isn't solving this problem! 

The only wrong being said is that R* should cater the game to people who barely have time to play it.  You can using this "mindless zombies grinding non-stop 24/7" argument all you want but nothing is a grind unless YOU make it so.  No reason to force yourself to do the same mission over and over when there are so many different ways to make money.  Wtf are yall doing?

 

I already showed you, won't do that again!  And correction, you never told that directly, but you did that indirectly!

Exactly yet you guys keep claiming I'm saying these things then arguing it.  Its funny because you guys are really arguing with yourself. lol

Alright Im gone for good now.  Peace peeps

Edited February 19, 2020 by BumpyJohnson

[Big Molio]

The businesses and heists are a definite time sink, and that’s why I can’t be bothered with them. They aren’t fun. The worst thing is how every single computer terminal or means to start the missions are a tedious journey from the front door of the building it is located in. The hangar, the nightclub, the office, the bunker, the facility, the arcade...

 

I joked before the After Hours update that it was a dead cert that the computer would be past the cloakroom, down some stairs, across the dance floor, past the DJ booth, along the corridor and past the toilets...and it literally was!

 

 

[YNNEL]

Nah. I don’t find it fun anymore. It’s not difficult to make money in this game but to make a lot of it is very time consuming. To get to the point of not having to worry about money in this game ie hundreds of millions requires way too much time. As others have mentioned here, if you have limited gaming time then it’s not really worth playing because it actually just feels like a second job. Gaming should be fun and not feel like a chore which this game does now to me. I mean I guess on my day off I could sit and grind for hours to make a few million but I’d much rather play something else now. And I refuse to buy shark cards because they are not value for money in any way shape or form. If I’m going to spend £50 on a shark card I want at least $30 million in game currency. You get  8 million. I can buy maybe buy two decent items with that?

 

I see all these you tubers who have grinded to a billion dollars or whatever and think how in the world have they not gone insane with boredom?

 

Edited February 19, 2020 by YNNEL

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Do those griefers and tryhards exist in your session after going solo tho?  Nope,  hence a solution to your "inteferrence" problem unless of course you're claiming they interfere with your game from other sessions.

Again, just because they happen to not exist in my solo public session it doesn't mean that they don't exist anymore, hence why it's not a solution, but a workaround, a band-aid fix, something that merely avoids the problem but doesn't really adresses it or fixes it.

 

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

You used the word "everyone" multiple times but ok.

You're being nitpicky at this point but ok.

 

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

And on the flip side just because YOU consider the time you put into the game "wasted time" doesn't mean it is.  Certain missions are made that way yes but are you forced to play them all?  There are plenty of missions worth the time.

I don't consider the time I put into the game "wasted time" though, I just pointed out how some missions are specifically designed to waste as much time as possible on purpose though.

 

You're not forced to play said missions, you're right about that, hell, you're not forced to play a single mission at all if you skip the Tutorial even, but just because there's some good missions in the game, that doesn't justify the ones that are badly designed.

 

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

lol  Nowhere in this quote am I myself telling people to do anything.  You really going to reach like this?  lol  I simply explained why I think "other" people are saying this which is because you guys will never be happy and R* wont do anything about them.  As you said theres still many untouched issues in the game now.  Yet when I say R* wont fix something its somehow different?

I mean, the sentiment is still the same. Telling people to shut up and that they will never be listened to is outright rude.

 

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Except I've never once stated my personal experience speaks for everyones'.  I simply used my experience to debunk the claims that someone with a job,  life,  etc don't have time to play and has a legit complaint towards payouts.  My experience isn't rare either.  I also never ignored any issue either so who do you speak of?  I recall acknowledging the issues on multiple occasions and even suggested ways around them.  Im confused.

I mean, when someone points out certain issues with this game and you reply with something along the lines of "it doesn't happen to me", it implies that you think that said issue either doesn't exist or it's not that big of a deal, which both are wrong.

 

And no, your solutions aren't real solutions, just mere workarounds. A real solution would be for R* to balance PvP, to rework payouts and ingame prices, to make NPCs more balanced and so on.

 

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Your problem is with R* not players who dont campaign.  Nobody should be judged if they dont cry over the game or hate R* like you.  Many people as well as myself have issues with the game but unlike you and the other complainers we simply took it upon oursevles and did something about it.  Control your own experience people and play stress free or keep whining your choice. Peace

My problem is with both R* and the players who justify their actions, and rightfully so.

 

I'm not judging you for enjoying the game, I'm judging you for trying to shut down rightful criticism and complains directed to R*, the game itself and its players.

 

Also, why do you assume that I hate this game? It's the total opposite actually! I f*cking love this game and that's exactly why, unlike you, who would rather conform with a mediocre game, I speak out my mind in hopes of R* to actually improve their game for the better of everyone.

 

But sure, keep being condescending against everyone who dares to have any other opinion about this game that total approval to the point of fanboyism as mere "complains" and "whining".

 

6 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Alright Im gone for good now.  Peace peeps

So you don't have any proper counterargument left, so you'd rather bail out of the thread? Funny.

 

5 hours ago, KazzMajol said:

 

cue the fap fap sounds.   somebody's getting all high and mighty again.

Are you even able to add something worthwhile to this conversation aside from unwarranted snide remarks?

[Hécate-II]

5 hours ago, YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE said:

 

And no, your solutions aren't real solutions, just mere workarounds. A real solution would be for R* to balance PvP, to rework payouts and ingame prices, to make NPCs more balanced and so on.

Doomsday and Casino suffer of the same problem: sh*tty pathfinding and savage spawn. Like you see on the minimap a NPC spawned from a room with a single access you're already controling and the guy seems completly lost. I've recorded this during Agressive. Very cheap programming. It doesn't affect much my gameplay because I know about this thing and you see the NPC appearing on the minimap where he shouldn't(because you already cleaned that room...etc). 

[TheGhostFromPast]

14 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Nah you need to look for some sense because you're not making any right now. lol

Yawn! That's it?! That's the best you can come up with?! And it's funny that it comes from you, because your unnecessarily long sheets can be reduced to 3 sentences you have repeated at least twice ---> This complaint isn't legitimate because you have a life. This doesn't make sense. I'm not talking with you anymore.  

 

14 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Right I was but you made another false claim I had to debunk and I also feel I need to expose your repeated action of putting words in my mouth then arguing against them AND your refusal to answer my request to present proof of said claims.  Why do you continue to ignore my request?  I mean if you're going to say I said something you need back up that clai

 

It's not my fault that, as it looks like, you don't understand that direct ways of saying frack off aren't the only ways how to say frack off, that indirect ways of saying frack off also counts as saying frack off, no matter how politely that is said.

 

Actually I have backed up my claims, but don't blame me that, as it looks like, you need literal spoon-feeding. and you still haven't backed up your claim this complaint isn't legitimate just because you can play only once in a week with something which would make people stop thinking that you're saying them indirectly frack off with complaints just because you have a life. Right now it looks like that I'm not the only one who thinks that you basically are saying indirectly that people should frack off with complaints only because they have a life.

 

14 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

The only wrong being said is that R* should cater the game to people who barely have time to play it.  You can using this "mindless zombies grinding non-stop 24/7" argument all you want but nothing is a grind unless YOU make it so.  No reason to force yourself to do the same mission over and over when there are so many different ways to make money.  Wtf are yall doing?

 

Wait a second?! It sounds like you are saying once again that people with life should frack off! Like I said before be a video game slave, who grinds non-stop 24/7 and mindless zombie who will happily accept everything what others are throwing you if you want, I don't have problems with that, but be kind and stop telling people like me that we should frack off only because we refuse to be video game slaves and mindless zombies. After all games were invented for fun! The only problem is that it changed since the day when paying through the internet was invented, but that doesn't mean that people should accept it as something normal.

 

 

14 hours ago, BumpyJohnson said:

Exactly yet you guys keep claiming I'm saying these things then arguing it.  Its funny because you guys are really arguing with yourself. lol

 

Don't blame others for the fact that you refuse to see your own wrong doings!

 

 

[Spider-Vice]

Ah, glad to see this section and discussions about griefing and ways of having fun in GTA Online are still the kindergarten they were. This topic has become breeding grounds for bait, hate and nonsense arguing so I'm afraid it's gonna have to go at least temporarily.