Shiny claw machine mechanics

[InfluxOG]

Just now, JuSuCri said:

But you said it shouldn't be on other plushie, moreover how did you push it up there? After a while she stops and doesn't move anymore.

It wasn't, it's in the gap between master, PRB and Poopie. And to get it there you might need a few attempts, if you reach a point where she isn't moving anymore and she's not out of the corner, exit the Arcade and try again.

[JuSuCri]

Thst's right! Good luck to everyone! 

[capton_cutclass]

So it's probably a 1/100 chance with a sweet spot that's almost impossible to get to because the claw is inconsistent in how far right it goes which kind of explains why it's impossible but not quite impossible.

 

 

[AshyraVash]

2 hours ago, capton_cutclass said:

 

If the bug works by pushing it to the left that almost basically confirms that there is a sweet spot thats too far to the right. Its still great to see if there is a sweet spot you can hit.

 

Yes, that makes sense. I've noticed that on PC the claw can move further to the right if it doesn't go fully to the back, but then it ends up being too in front. Even if I kept at it long enough to push Wasabi out of place, it only seemed to move forwards. Then I wondered how it was being pulled with fixed coordinates in macros at all, if it was moving around like this. I guess after enough attempts, Wasabi might move far enough to become reachable by the claw, but that must be easier to do manually than with a fixed coordinate via macro. Then again, almost none of the coordinates I found really seemed centered, either. It's very confusing.

1 hour ago, capton_cutclass said:

If anyone wants to try now psn: que_seraaa

I'd help, but I'm on PC I'm afraid.

[capton_cutclass]

1 minute ago, AshyraVash said:

Yes, that makes sense. I've noticed that on PC the claw can move further to the right if it doesn't go fully to the back, but then it ends up being too in front. Even if I kept at it long enough to push Wasabi out of place, it only seemed to move forwards. Then I wondered how it was being pulled with fixed coordinates in macros at all, if it was moving around like this. I guess after enough attempts, Wasabi might move far enough to become reachable by the claw, but that must be easier to do manually than with a fixed coordinate via macro. Then again, almost none of the coordinates I found really seemed centered, either. It's very confusing.

I'd help, but I'm on PC I'm afraid.

Yeah and I think the claw or the field the claw can travel is inconsistent possibly by design...I noticed when you do go all the way up; the furthest way right is never quite exactly the same...and on a few of them it's even further and I think theres another one that again pushes it further right allowing people to get it.

 

I'm speculating but if this "sweet spot" is unreachable for 99.9% there has to be something that's allowing the .01% of tries to get it. 

[AshyraVash]

4 minutes ago, capton_cutclass said:

Yeah and I think the claw or the field the claw can travel is inconsistent possibly by design...I noticed when you do go all the way up; the furthest way right is never quite exactly the same...and on a few of them it's even further and I think theres another one that again pushes it further right allowing people to get it.

 

I'm speculating but if this "sweet spot" is unreachable for 99.9% there has to be something that's allowing the .01% of tries to get it. 

Hmmm, maybe it doesn't always spawn in the same spot either, that'd explain why the reportedly centered coordinates for scripts don't match up in milliseconds, unless there's some other explanation I'm missing for why PCs would count key-press duration differently. We might solve it after all!

[Staybeasting]

I managed to move shiny wasabi kitty standing upwards on top of master plushie. Do I need to start over? The doll has to be sideways correct

[capton_cutclass]

2 minutes ago, Staybeasting said:

I managed to move shiny wasabi kitty standing upwards on top of master plushie. Do I need to start over? The doll has to be sideways correct

Yeah the one dude said to exit and reenter.

[Staybeasting]

Ok trying again

[InfluxOG]

Update: A friend of mine has been trying for 6 hours to grab the Plushie while it's out of position and he still can't get it. It seems I just got really lucky. I think we can almost say with 100% certainty at this point that it's not a positioning issue and the Plushie simply doesn't have a sweet spot, it seems to be a case of the rarity rate not being right and somewhere along the line they have messed it up. This would also explain why Tez's friend can't get it even when he sets the pickup rate to 100%. 

 

The easy way to confirm once and for all if this is the case is for Tez's friend to bump it out of position with his 100% mod and see if he can get it then, if not, we know we're right.

 

Either way I recommend everyone bring this up to R* so it can be patched.

Edited February 2, 2020 by InfluxOG

[Staybeasting]

Does your friend have to run on the side of the machine? There is a big delay. It seems to only move after the claw comes back up

The developer who designed this claw machine should be punched directly in the face. 

[InfluxOG]

Here's the video of me getting it that was requested earlier:

 

 

Honestly this just proves there's no sweet spot to me, look how it eventually managed to pick it up, super glitchy and after the claw had already gripped was when it decided to grab it.

 

 

 

[Tez2]

Update: turns out the sweet spot is 35 millimetres

The distance between the claw and the plushie must be less than 35 mm to trigger the RNG process.

7 hours ago, InfluxOG said:

Update: A friend of mine has been trying for 6 hours to grab the Plushie while it's out of position and he still can't get it. It seems I just got really lucky. I think we can almost say with 100% certainty at this point that it's not a positioning issue and the Plushie simply doesn't have a sweet spot, it seems to be a case of the rarity rate not being right and somewhere along the line they have messed it up. This would also explain why Tez's friend can't get it even when he sets the pickup rate to 100%. 

 

The easy way to confirm once and for all if this is the case is for Tez's friend to bump it out of position with his 100% mod and see if he can get it then, if not, we know we're right.

 

Either way I recommend everyone bring this up to R* so it can be patched.

It's not a sweet spot as in a static area placed at where the plushie is located, it's more of a point placed at the center or the bottom of the plushie, so if you glitch the plushie, you move the point closer to the claw depending on the plushie current position.

My friend is yet to grab the Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance, I'm sure her sweet spot is glitched or something.

Edited February 2, 2020 by Fun 2

[JuSuCri]

Today, after 1 MONTH, IS MY LUCKY DAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!! 

I finally DID IT GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just complete every trophy...the bug working good! 

Good luck to everyone! 

F*ck WASABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[capton_cutclass]

2 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

Update: turns out the sweet spot is 35 millimetres

The distance between the claw and the plushie must be less than 35 mm to trigger the RNG process.

It's not a sweet spot as in a static area placed at where the plushie is located, it's more of a point placed at the center or the bottom of the plushie, so if you glitch the plushie, you move the point closer to the claw depending on the plushie current position.

My friend is yet to grab the Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance, I'm sure her sweet spot is glitched or something.

the machine actually makes fun of you for trying over and over and trolls you I dont think its a mistake..I might be wrong. Either way your friends and your efforts are appreciated. I didnt think it would take that long if it was 100% that is really surprising.

 

 

[InfluxOG]

4 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

Update: turns out the sweet spot is 35 millimetres

The distance between the claw and the plushie must be less than 35 mm to trigger the RNG process.

It's not a sweet spot as in a static area placed at where the plushie is located, it's more of a point placed at the center or the bottom of the plushie, so if you glitch the plushie, you move the point closer to the claw depending on the plushie current position.

My friend is yet to grab the Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance, I'm sure her sweet spot is glitched or something.

Yeah, I have no doubt she's supposed to have a sweet spot, it just seems quite clear that hers hasn't been added or is completely broken.

[Tez2]

47 minutes ago, capton_cutclass said:

the machine actually makes fun of you for trying over and over and trolls you I dont think its a mistake..I might be wrong. Either way your friends and your efforts are appreciated. I didnt think it would take that long if it was 100% that is really surprising.

 

 

This may come as a surprise, but my friend is yet to grab Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance.

 

[AshyraVash]

1 hour ago, Fun 2 said:

This may come as a surprise, but my friend is yet to grab Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance.

 

Thank you for looking into it with your friends. I had a suspicion something wasn't quite right compared to how quickly all the others got pulled. It doesn't help that the machine taunts and repeats something like, "I don't think that's the right spot," either, but I don't recall if it had any bearing on where the claw was. At first, I thought the problem might be specific to the PC platform, but now I'm not so sure anymore.

[capton_cutclass]

3 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

This may come as a surprise, but my friend is yet to grab Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance.

 

Any chance we have to trigger it? Like Nasar Speaks activates the wanted level and the weather. Could one of them effect that plushie sweet spot. Or some other nonsensical thing to trigger it? I mean is that in the realm of possibility?

[jargonaut]

10 hours ago, Fun 2 said:

Update: turns out the sweet spot is 35 millimetres

The distance between the claw and the plushie must be less than 35 mm to trigger the RNG process.

It's not a sweet spot as in a static area placed at where the plushie is located, it's more of a point placed at the center or the bottom of the plushie, so if you glitch the plushie, you move the point closer to the claw depending on the plushie current position.

My friend is yet to grab the Wasabi plushie even with 100% chance, I'm sure her sweet spot is glitched or something.

Are you sure it's millimeters - or any other length unit for that matter? 

 

I mean, if it's supposed to be our real life 35 millimeters, what if I have a 20" monitor and you have 200" tv? Or I have the lowest resolution and you have some ultrawide thing going on?

Or if it's 35 millimeters within the game's virtual world, how big is everything there? How tall or wide is a plushie's head in millimeters?

Wouldn't it be easier to measure in pixels instead of using and in-game measurement (from programming perspective)?

 

Could it be milliSECONDS instead? Quick Googling says clawing Wasabi Kitty takes around 3900 ms one way and around 4300 ms the other way (or vice versa). Timing them both within a 35ms tolerance, BY HAND AND JEDI SENSE, would be very damn hard. Less than 1% room for error x 2 would fit this wanted thing as well. But most importantly time is same for everyone, on every console and system configuration, so it would be fair for all and easy to code. 

 

So like, let's say the very precise time presses ("coordinates") would be 3917 ms up and 4283 ms right. With the 35ms tolerance, we have 3900-3935ms window for up and 4265-4300ms for right.

If the player doesn't hit BOTH windows, no rng takes place. The game just wiggles the plushie a bit to give the player false hope (but apparently also gives an audio hint that the spot was wrong?)

But when the player does hit BOTH windows, it's finally time for rng that uses the odds you guys dug up ---- and those who have done thousands of rounds with no luck are just timing it wrong 

 

Just wondering

[Staybeasting]

I managed to move shiny wasabi kitty in between blue and brown plushie

[Shadowfennekin]

If anyone on Xbox wants to team for this, message me.

 

[lost-in-emotions]

Ok folks, some questions...

 

1.) is the glitching out wasabi still a thing?

if yes, what the other player has to do? only walk against the machine in the corner?

or are there some other possibilities to move away the plushie?

 

2.) i tried out to aim at Wasabi for the exact middle/middle as in the other plushies.

happiliy i get the other ones, even grandpa and PRB, with really small amout of time.

but now i know what you mean with the point. i am a little bit to right for the middle.

but i cant get more to the left. or how are the chances for that spot to grab?

 

 

 

 

[Bardiamist]

On every try Shiny wassaby kitty moves to us.
I saw that Shiny wassaby kitty successully catched on PC only in GTA Series Videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsFHOtsZzw&t=6180s Here is Shiny wassaby kitty moved enough to us. Maybe sweet spot also moved enough.
And here we can see Master already catched. So maybe if Master catched then he don't prevent Shiny wassaby kitty coming closer to us faster.

 

[jargonaut]

Damn you guys for making me wanting to test my own damn theory ;D

 

Okay so I'll try to find time to write a script tonight to sweep a bit extended area tonight and will be recording a video as well. I will try getting Wasabi Bae from a full cabinet with it in an invite only session straight from game restart and I'll report back if I learn something.

[lost-in-emotions]

ok. it seems on the video of GTA Series they aimed NOT for middle/middle, more like a little bit to the back. interesting

[AshyraVash]

3 hours ago, Bardiamist said:

On every try Shiny wassaby kitty moves to us.
I saw that Shiny wassaby kitty successully catched on PC only in GTA Series Videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsFHOtsZzw&t=6180s Here is Shiny wassaby kitty moved enough to us. Maybe sweet spot also moved enough.
And here we can see Master already catched. So maybe if Master catched then he don't prevent Shiny wassaby kitty coming closer to us faster.

 

It's possible, but even with Master Hentai there Wasabi just clips into him. We tried to knock Wasabi out of the corner with a friend and managed to knock it every which way, even upside down, but not more to the left, strangely. :)

 

12 minutes ago, lost-in-emotions said:

ok. it seems on the video of GTA Series they aimed NOT for middle/middle, more like a little bit to the back. interesting

Based on where the claw lines up with the background image, that's just all the way back and all the way to the right. What is different is where Wasabi is sitting, but they don't say if they moved her with attempts, or if she just spawned like that. Whenever she got pushed forwards for me after a few hours, the claw would end up reaching further back too, but didn't grab anyways, unfortunately.

[AshyraVash]

8 hours ago, lost-in-emotions said:

Ok folks, some questions...

 

1.) is the glitching out wasabi still a thing?

if yes, what the other player has to do? only walk against the machine in the corner?

or are there some other possibilities to move away the plushie?

 

2.) i tried out to aim at Wasabi for the exact middle/middle as in the other plushies.

happiliy i get the other ones, even grandpa and PRB, with really small amout of time.

but now i know what you mean with the point. i am a little bit to right for the middle.

but i cant get more to the left. or how are the chances for that spot to grab?

Yes, it looks like Wasabi can still be knocked out of the corner if you have a friend running at the machine from the side while the claw is interacting with Wasabi. I'm not sure if the friend has to be in first person or not, but I tried the running part against the machine in first person and sometimes Wasabi got knocked around and out, just not quite far enough to the left so a grab was not successful anyway. I'm not even sure if you have to run back and into the machine or if just walking or running against it is enough. It seems a bit random. In any case, my friend was not nearly as amused by this as I was, so we didn't persist at it for very long. xD

 

As for number two, we're not entirely sure, but it seems that Wasabi doesn't always appear in a good location to be grabbed by the claw and that is why it is taking most people a very long time in a session to grab, because all the failed attempts push Wasabi forwards to a better location for the claw to reach.

Edited February 3, 2020 by AshyraVash
grammar!

[jargonaut]

Back from my nap - and I got it.

And the proof that it can be done from a full cabinet:

 

@Fun 2: Before I start spreading any info publicly and get everyone's hate on myself, could you ask that friend of yours test a few timings to see if the same timings will yield results for others too?

 

Edit: Just checked the video. It took me quite around 100 mins to get it but some of the timings may have been off the mark. Checking the exact position now.

 

Edit2: Just checked the video, and this is quite a strange coincidence; I got it on my 201th try - wasn't the odds supposed to be 1:200? (I hope I counted correctly)

 

Edit3: I did calculate wrong - it was 200th attempt on the button. So now it's a tad hard to say which positions of the nine were inside the right area and which ones not, cause it kind of looks like they all were and my rng was testing all of the 1/200 chances

Edited February 3, 2020 by jargonaut

[AshyraVash]

8 minutes ago, jargonaut said:

Back from my nap - and I got it.

And the proof that it can be done from a full cabinet:

 

 

@Fun 2: Before I start spreading any info publicly and get everyone's hate on myself, could you ask that friend of yours test a few timings to see if the same timings will yield results for others too?

 

Edit: Just checked the video. It took me quite around 100 mins to get it but some of the timings may have been off the mark. Checking the exact position now.

Congratulations! I've been testing several different timings, too, but none of them did the trick. The ones that reportedly worked for others were: w: 4300, d: 3900 and w: 4200, d: 3980, if that helps any.