RDR2 Moonshiners PC Patch - 1232.13 (1.15) | 13/12/2019

[LEXX141]

this is the worst porting of the game in the last few years. The game works like a piece of sh*t, endless downloads, problems with textures, errors online. The most annoying thing is that developers do not want to repair their game.

[sorder]

37 minutes ago, LEXX141 said:

this is the worst porting of the game in the last few years. The game works like a piece of sh*t, endless downloads, problems with textures, errors online. The most annoying thing is that developers do not want to repair their game.

I'm sure in the next patch most of the problems will be fixed.What gpu and cpu do you have btw?

[LEXX141]

15 minutes ago, sorder said:

Я уверен, что в следующем патче большинство проблем будет исправлено. Какие у вас gpu и cpu?

Gtx 1080ti and cpu intel 8700k,32 gb ram

[sorder]

3 hours ago, LEXX141 said:

Gtx 1080ti and cpu intel 8700k,32 gb ram

Hm.. I’m using 2070 with i59600k and atm the game runs perfectly fine without crashes,fps drops etc.

what a weird port

[Koltos]

I rewatched PC release trailer in 2K. It is so beatiful and clear.

 

Why the actual PC version don't look so clear as this trailer

[sorder]

1 hour ago, Koltos said:

I rewatched PC release trailer in 2K. It is so beatiful and clear.

 

Why the actual PC version don't look so clear as this trailer

that's weird cuz for me it looks exactly the same 

[Dryspace]

1 hour ago, Koltos said:

I rewatched PC release trailer in 2K. It is so beatiful and clear.

Didn't Rockstar release 4K PC footage, or am I mistaken?

[MeatSafeMurderer]

On 1/23/2020 at 11:20 AM, sorder said:

I'm sure in the next patch most of the problems will be fixed.

"I'm sure in the next couple of days most of the problems will be fixed."
"I'm sure in the next couple of weeks most of the problems will be fixed."
"I'm sure in the next couple of months most of the problems will be fixed."

"I'm sure in the next patch which will be coming in a completely indeterminate amount of time most of the problems will be fixed."

[sorder]

57 minutes ago, MeatSafeMurderer said:

"I'm sure in the next couple of days most of the problems will be fixed."
"I'm sure in the next couple of weeks most of the problems will be fixed."
"I'm sure in the next couple of months most of the problems will be fixed."

"I'm sure in the next patch which will be coming in a completely indeterminate amount of time most of the problems will be fixed."

yep that's pretty much true 

[MarshallRawR]

Well I'd expect a patch this coming week. Game is running great here so I hope it all gets better for those with issues.

[MeatSafeMurderer]

22 hours ago, MarshallRawR said:

Well I'd expect a patch this coming week.

I wouldn't hold your breath. My opinion of Rockstar and their PC support is not particularly high. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this port is still a buggy crock of sh*t this time next year.

[Pointi1978]

On 1/25/2020 at 12:45 AM, Koltos said:

I rewatched PC release trailer in 2K. It is so beatiful and clear.

 

Why the actual PC version don't look so clear as this trailer

TAA butcheres Sharpness of Textures on 1080p. On a 1080p Monitor try setting your Resolution Scale to 1.25 then the blurryness of TAA goes away.

 

And I am pretty sure the trailer was recorded in 4k on everything Ultra Setting on a real high end machine. On a "normal" gaming rig you will get like 2 fps on these settings

Edited January 27, 2020 by Pointi1978

[Armerius]

2 hours ago, Pointi1978 said:

TAA butcheres Sharpness of Textures on 1080p. On a 1080p Monitor try setting your Resolution Scale to 1.25 then the blurryness of TAA goes away.

 

And I am pretty sure the trailer was recorded in 4k on everything Ultra Setting on a real high end machine. On a "normal" gaming rig you will get like 2 fps on these settings

resolucion scale at 1.25 doesnt tank performance?

[sorder]

5 hours ago, Armerius said:

resolucion scale at 1.25 doesnt tank performance?

Well of course it does. But if you want to get rid of this annoying TAA blurriness this is a best option for 1080p monitors.I'm using this method since december patch and it works really well. 

[Armerius]

4 hours ago, sorder said:

Well of course it does. But if you want to get rid of this annoying TAA blurriness this is a best option for 1080p monitors.I'm using this method since december patch and it works really well. 

im using nvidia sharpening to 0.35 and it works well too with no performance impact but maybe your method  works better.

[Armerius]

any rumors? leaks or info about a patch this week?

[T-ru]

I did a lot of tests these days and the performance in the towns is awful, especially in Saint Denis, no matter from the graphics settings there is still freezes, stall, pulling... popping textures, in Online is WORST!

The strange thing is that if the graphics settings are lower then the problems above are more  !!!

A friend of mine with much better PC than mine have better fps less freezes, lags... but have much much more popping textures !!!

 

I hope for some really good update, but something tells me that this game will be well playable after a long time, now there will be only Online contents like they(R*) do with each PC version! This is stupid, unacceptable, dishonestly... one year for the PC version and then full with bugs port!!!

[MarshallRawR]

42 minutes ago, T-ru said:

I did a lot of tests these days and the performance in the towns is awful, especially in Saint Denis, no matter from the graphics settings there is still freezes, stall, pulling... popping textures, in Online is WORST!

The strange thing is that if the graphics settings are lower then the problems above are more  !!!

A friend of mine with much better PC than mine have better fps less freezes, lags... but have much much more popping textures !!!

 

I hope for some really good update, but something tells me that this game will be well playable after a long time, now there will be only Online contents like they(R*) do with each PC version! This is stupid, unacceptable, dishonestly... one year for the PC version and then full with bugs port!!!

You need to post what kind of PC you've got because that tells us nothing without specs buddy.

[Dryspace]

51 minutes ago, MarshallRawR said:

You need to post what kind of PC you've got because that tells us nothing without specs buddy.

I agree that when mentioning problems with a game, we should all include our basic system components, and the resolution!

[T-ru]

2 hours ago, MarshallRawR said:

You need to post what kind of PC you've got because that tells us nothing without specs buddy.

I'm not looking for help because this cannot be fixed except the creators update, I just report problems.

Anyway here are the specs:

1. i7-7700 3.6GHz; rtx 2060 super 8gb 256bit; 16gb of RAM; SSD; Windows 10

2. i7-4790; GTX 970 4gb 256bit; 8gb of ram; HDD; Windows 10

 

Can you help me now buddy?!

 

1 hour ago, Dryspace said:

I agree that when mentioning problems with a game, we should all include our basic system components, and the resolution!

1. i7-7700 3.6GHz; rtx 2060 super 8gb 256bit; 16gb of RAM; SSD; Windows 10

2. i7-4790; GTX 970 4gb 256bit; 8gb of ram; HDD; Windows 10

 

Let me see your resolutions?

[Koltos]

I'm so tired of particles on medium for smoke on trains.

 

Because with particles on ultra shootouts are much better.

[sorder]

4 hours ago, T-ru said:

I did a lot of tests these days and the performance in the towns is awful, especially in Saint Denis, no matter from the graphics settings there is still freezes, stall, pulling... popping textures, in Online is WORST!

I guess everyone has their own problems with the game. And after the december patch, I didn't encounter any of these problems, although I play every day (rtx 2070 i59600k dx12).The only problem that is relevant for many players and for me ofc is the endless loading screens in online. Of course there are still bugs with the flickering textures and they are really annoying. So R* pls fix this mess ffs

[Pointi1978]

On 1/27/2020 at 1:57 PM, Armerius said:

resolucion scale at 1.25 doesnt tank performance?

 

Yes it does, of course. The game renders with a higher resolution internaly and then it is scaled down to your monitor resolution. But as a side effect, it removes the blurryness of TAA. So I rather drop some Level of Detail to get a sharper picture.

I am on a RTX 2060 and a i7-9700. Here are my settings:

 

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I did a LOT of tweaking and testing in this game, feels almost I spent more time tweaking the game than playing it... I did so because my plasma TV needs 60 fps with vsync on to get a stutter free and perfect image. At the moment I am pleased with the settings above. If you do not care about the blurryness of TAA, you can turn off resolution scale, play on native 1080p and push some settings to Ultra (like lightning und global lightning, crank up grass and trees) and still get 60 fps. But I guess at least a 2070 (super) would be optimal for RDR2 to use 1.25 resolution scale and Ultra Lighning Effects.

[Armerius]

39 minutes ago, Pointi1978 said:

 

Yes it does, of course. The game renders with a higher resolution internaly and then it is scaled down to your monitor resolution. But as a side effect, it removes the blurryness of TAA. So I rather drop some Level of Detail to get a sharper picture.

I am on a RTX 2060 and a i7-9700. Here are my settings:

 

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I did a LOT of tweaking and testing in this game, feels almost I spent more time tweaking the game than playing it... I did so because my plasma TV needs 60 fps with vsync on to get a stutter free and perfect image. At the moment I am pleased with the settings above. If you do not care about the blurryness of TAA, you can turn off resolution scale, play on native 1080p and push some settings to Ultra (like lightning und global lightning, crank up grass and trees) and still get 60 fps. But I guess at least a 2070 (super) would be optimal for RDR2 to use 1.25 resolution scale and Ultra Lighning Effects.

im on a i7 8700k and gtx 1080 . so yeah for me  its  nvidia sharpenning for the time being..i get way over 60 fps and i too like you and many others spend a obscene amount of time tweaking the game settings to reach a good image/fps ratio.  i guess ill wait for the 3000 nvidia series then to be more comfortable with the resolution scale on this game but i might give it a shot just to check xD thanks.

[Officer Friendly]

If you notice stutters and frame drops I highly recommend to delete the SGA files(Vulkan or DX12) periodically.

 

It restores 60FPS and stability for 10 hours or more. Not sure why the game recreating these files fixes issues.

 

 

[MarshallRawR]

10 hours ago, T-ru said:

I'm not looking for help because this cannot be fixed except the creators update, I just report problems.

Anyway here are the specs:

1. i7-7700 3.6GHz; rtx 2060 super 8gb 256bit; 16gb of RAM; SSD; Windows 10

2. i7-4790; GTX 970 4gb 256bit; 8gb of ram; HDD; Windows 10

 

Can you help me now buddy?!

 

1. i7-7700 3.6GHz; rtx 2060 super 8gb 256bit; 16gb of RAM; SSD; Windows 10

2. i7-4790; GTX 970 4gb 256bit; 8gb of ram; HDD; Windows 10

 

Let me see your resolutions?

What fixed my stuttering was to get over 8GB of system memory so that can be a strong possibility.

[T-ru]

7 hours ago, Officer Friendly said:

If you notice stutters and frame drops I highly recommend to delete the SGA files(Vulkan or DX12) periodically.

 

It restores 60FPS and stability for 10 hours or more. Not sure why the game recreating these files fixes issues.

 

 

But do i need to adjust the graphics settings then?

Sometimes I resort to stricter measures, every time when there is a new update or when i decide to change some graphics settings, i delete everything linked with the game (in Documents and in Users\....\AppData\Local) except the save files and even sometimes the save files are problematic then i adjust the settings like i want and often I'm starting a new game. I do this since gta4, MP3, GTAV... and everything is much better and normal than to change the settings and to continue playing.

To me there is something little that f#cked up performance in the towns, everything is great and smooth but when I go near or in some town the first seconds are lags and freezes then become normal as if the game needed some adaptation time with peds and textures. 

6 hours ago, MarshallRawR said:

What fixed my stuttering was to get over 8GB of system memory so that can be a strong possibility.

I'll try this, I'll put 8gb more, but I doubt about it, I'll buy new PC when ps5 gen officially come.

Edited January 29, 2020 by T-ru

[Dryspace]

19 hours ago, T-ru said:

I'm not looking for help because this cannot be fixed except the creators update, I just report problems.

Anyway here are the specs:

I understand. My point is just that when mentioning problems, listing our specs (and resolution when talking about framerates) provides more info for everyone--even those who don't have a game yet--and helps build a clearer picture of how a game performs and what to expect.

 

11 hours ago, Pointi1978 said:

feels almost I spent more time tweaking the game than playing it... I did so because my plasma TV needs 60 fps with vsync on to get a stutter free and perfect image.

Oooh, Plasma! The only drawback is the 1920x1080 resolution, but that's a nice way to get the same crystal-clear motion of a CRT. When anything is moving on-screen, as long as vsync is enabled and the framerate remains above the refresh rate, it is exactly as clear as it is when it's perfectly still. *Sigh*...I miss my 2304x1440 @ 85Hz, 24" widescreen CRT...

Edited January 29, 2020 by Dryspace

[Pointi1978]

6 hours ago, Dryspace said:

Oooh, Plasma! The only drawback is the 1920x1080 resolution, but that's a nice way to get the same crystal-clear motion of a CRT. When anything is moving on-screen, as long as vsync is enabled and the framerate remains above the refresh rate, it is exactly as clear as it is when it's perfectly still. *Sigh*...I miss my 2304x1440 @ 85Hz, 24" widescreen CRT...

Yeah, and if you get used to play your games on a huge 65" (165 centimeters) Plasma Display you dont want to use a normal PC Monitor anymore

Next upgrade would be the LG C9 OLED wit 77" - already saving up for the 4.999,- Euro  

[Officer Friendly]

15 hours ago, T-ru said:

But do i need to adjust the graphics settings then?

Sometimes I resort to stricter measures, every time when there is a new update or when i decide to change some graphics settings, i delete everything linked with the game (in Documents and in Users\....\AppData\Local) except the save files and even sometimes the save files are problematic then i adjust the settings like i want and often I'm starting a new game. I do this since gta4, MP3, GTAV... and everything is much better and normal than to change the settings and to continue playing.

To me there is something little that f#cked up performance in the towns, everything is great and smooth but when I go near or in some town the first seconds are lags and freezes then become normal as if the game needed some adaptation time with peds and textures. 

I'll try this, I'll put 8gb more, but I doubt about it, I'll buy new PC when ps5 gen officially come.

I don't adjust the graphic settings, only delete the SGA Vulcan files.

 

I would be interested in those experiencing stuttering if this resolves your issue.