The Moonshiner General Thread

[Surebrec]

3 hours ago, CaliMeatWagon said:

 

 

It's not about player count, it's about the one or two people with sh*tty internet. The more people, the more chances of somebody having sh*tty internet, but this can still effect low population servers. So lack of spawns can even happen in low population servers (I've seen a lack of anything spawns in an 8 player lobby).

 

VV This is from somebody who has made a name for themselves by digging threw the code and figuring out how stuff works VV
 

look, I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the numbers, but if the animal spawns are affected by poor connections, then why does it not affect all animals? why are birds bats and fish not affected?

[CaliMeatWagon]

2 minutes ago, Surebrec said:

look, I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the numbers, but if the animal spawns are affected by poor connections, then why does it not affect all animals? why are birds bats and fish not affected?

I'm not sure, maybe they are given different spawn priorities. With birds and small animals being prioritized over larger animals, pedestrians over birds, and so on. 
Notice how pedestrian traffic never seems messed up? 

[Bi9Daddy68]

I am certain of only one thing when it comes to this game, the code is broken into a million little bad pieces, and fixing it is a life long challenge for code writers!

[Failed Again]

Maybe if RS next Pursuit is Herbalist, if will defoliant the game

Que's , Where have all the flowers gone?

 

17 hours ago, Surebrec said:

look, I'm not disagreeing with you regarding the numbers, but if the animal spawns are affected by poor connections, then why does it not affect all animals? why are birds bats and fish not affected?

I disagree, the ducks at Emerald Pond and the nearby Geese are all gone too

[S4P]

On 1/18/2020 at 8:05 PM, Failed Again said:

Maybe if RS next Pursuit is Herbalist, if will defoliant the game

Que's , Where have all the flowers gone?

 

I disagree, the ducks at Emerald Pond and the nearby Geese are all gone too

this video is for 99% of the rdr2 players who are not getting any spawns are only a few spawns , if your in a 10 or less man lobby dont worry spawns will be great bt if your in a other 20 man lobby heres a solo session method i deleted my one on my channel so here this awesome one  

 

  And 1% being surebrec 

 

Edited January 20, 2020 by onoskelisss

[Surebrec]

18 hours ago, Failed Again said:

Maybe if RS next Pursuit is Herbalist, if will defoliant the game

Que's , Where have all the flowers gone?

 

I disagree, the ducks at Emerald Pond and the nearby Geese are all gone too

still there for me.
 

 

[Failed Again]

4 hours ago, Surebrec said:

still there for me.
 

 

You Quack me up...I could post equally with no ducks..and the geese spawns..

so this game has given us , "The Bird"

Edited January 19, 2020 by Failed Again

[Surebrec]

10 minutes ago, Failed Again said:

You Quake me up...I could post equally with no ducks..and the geese spawns..

so this game has given us , "The Bird"

it was you that disagreed with my claim. said they were there and they still are. if your experience is different, that's your problem.

Edited January 19, 2020 by Surebrec

[Failed Again]

2 minutes ago, Surebrec said:

I said they were there and they still are. if your experience is different, that's your problem.

Lol..

sure there will be differences,

step back,,,

Why so serious?

 

Sorry to ruffle your feathers

 

 

Edited January 19, 2020 by Failed Again

[Surebrec]

3 minutes ago, Failed Again said:

Lol..

sure there will be differences,

step back,,,

Why so serious?

 

Sorry to ruffle your feathers

 

 

you haven't ruffled anything, don't flatter yourself.

[S4P]

On 1/16/2020 at 9:17 AM, Fun 2 said:

I played the new DLC the moment it was released. Every time I try to sell moonshine, I end up on infinite black screen. A week after, things became better as I can start a sell mission without ending up on infinite black screen. I was checking for any background update at the time, and if I recall correctly, they pushed a background update in about 2 to 5 days after the release of the new update which I believe is the reason why I no longer end up on infinite black screens.

However, what you experienced could be totally different than my experience, it doesn't have to be the same. There are many factors such platform, connection speed, the server you were connected to, whether your lobby had more people selling goods than mine because I recall someone from reddit who experienced a bug where he wanted to sell his trader goods but ended up on a wagon full of moonshine that belong to another player. But I do agree in terms of animal spawns. It's a huge problem, rendering the Trader role unplayable at the moment. I don't see them reducing the player count because that would break their idea of immersion which for all I know is the reason why we don't have private sessions.

I think they would just try their best to fix the animal spawns while keeping us playing in populated sessions.

 

6 hours ago, Surebrec said:

you haven't ruffled anything, don't flatter yourself.

look even i can get the odd duck to spawn , pmsl u know like 10 to 15 are suppose to spawn there , there was like only 4 , the only 4 u would see 

[Leftover Pizza]

I've done about 4 deliveries today and the only damage done to the load is by the chasing revenuers. They are always able to take out at least 1 bottle to prevent you from getting a 20/20 delivery. Might as well just ride like the wind and deliver 11 bottles. 

This damage and payout system needs to be changed. 

[Surebrec]

28 minutes ago, onoskelisss said:

 

look even i can get the odd duck to spawn , pmsl u know like 10 to 15 are suppose to spawn there , there was like only 4 , the only 4 u would see 

does that mean they do or don't spawn?

[OrionSR]

34 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

I've done about 4 deliveries today and the only damage done to the load is by the chasing revenuers.

I've been jump out of the wagon when the revenuers approach so they are shooting at me and not the wagon. It takes a little longer to reach the destination but the time limit is seldom an issue unless I try to loot them all.

[Leftover Pizza]

2 minutes ago, OrionSR said:

I've been jump out of the wagon when the revenuers approach so they are shooting at me and not the wagon. It takes a little longer to reach the destination but the time limit is seldom an issue unless I try to loot them all.

 

Yeah, I do that too. Most of the times, I get 2 at the back and 1 at my side. The one at my side always aims at me through the wagon and shoots a bottle. Never more, always one for some reason. :S 

[OrionSR]

42 minutes ago, Leftover Pizza said:

The one at my side always aims at me through the wagon and shoots a bottle.

I've noticed that too, so I've been retreating towards them and to the side so the wagon isn't in anyone's line of fire. The main problem is that I need to exit the wagon while the targets are just out of range of the mini-map to get good clearance, so it waste a bit of time and I need to be observant. I tend to work in open areas, that helps a lot, and it's hard to account for random factors, but... I know you are a careful and detailed player, so I'm surprised that your success rate isn't higher. 

Have you tried other shack locations? 

Edited January 20, 2020 by OrionSR

[Leftover Pizza]

1 minute ago, OrionSR said:

I've noticed that too, so I've been retreating towards them and to the side so the wagon isn't in anyone's line of fire. The main problem is that I need to exit the wagon while the targets are just out of range of the mini-map to get good clearance, so it waste a bit of time and I need to be observant. I tend to work in open areas, that helps a lot, and it's hard to account for random factors, but... I know you are a careful and detailed player, so I'm surprised that your success rate isn't higher. 

Have you tried other shack locations? 

 

Yeah, I tried several, but found the Tall Trees location to have the better routes. I normally get off the wagon as soon as I see the red marking on the minimap, move towards it a bit, shoot 2 approaching riders (there's always one with a passenger on it too), and while I shoot them, another one approaches me from the back, where my wagon is. 

I did manage 20/20 on other days, but today I couldn't, despite being very careful and taking my sweet time. It's not a big deal, because I don't need the money and I can still earn money from the sales, but it's not cool if damage gets done by AI shooting you while you're out of LoS. 

[OrionSR]

2 hours ago, Leftover Pizza said:

I've done about 4 deliveries today

Okay, then let's attack the other side of the issue because, out of 4 deliveries there's a reasonably good chance that I won't see any attacks. Sorry about some of this basic info but I figure others are reading this too.

I've got the bonus from... level 19(?) to reduce attacks but I'm really not sure of how this makes a difference.

Are you fighting your way through all of the roadblocks? Because then they always attack later. There seems to be a fairly even chance that the roadblock will result in one of the following:

• They pass the wagon through without inspection or later attacks.
• They inspect and pass the wagon through without attacks.
• They inspect the wagon and announce an attack and follow up with more attacks.
• They attack immediately and attack later - I read this but can't remember it happening.

I prefer to take the long way around and avoid the roadblocks completely. Your shack location should have lots of good options. Based on the expected frequency of attack of around 50% based on what happens at the roadblock, it seems that avoiding the roadblock significantly reduces the chance of attack. However, I suspect that an attack will occur if someone else messes with my roadblock - can't really tell though.

Or maybe you're just having an extremely bad run of luck. Have you paid your respects to the RNG gods recently?

Edited January 20, 2020 by OrionSR

[Leftover Pizza]

4 minutes ago, OrionSR said:

Okay, then let's attack the other side of the issue because, out of 4 deliveries there's a reasonably good chance that I won't see any attacks. Sorry about some of this basic info but I figure others are reading this too.

I've got the bonus from... level 19(?) to reduce attacks but I'm really not sure of how this makes a difference.

Are you fighting your way through all of the roadblocks? Because then they always attack later. There seems to be a fairly even chance that the roadblock will result in one of the following:

• They pass the wagon through without inspection or later attacks.
• They inspect and pass the wagon through without attacks.
• They inspect the wagon and announce an attack and follow up with more attacks.
• They attack immediately and attack later - I read this but can't remember it happening.

I prefer to take the long way around and avoid the roadblocks completely. Your shack location should have lots of good options. Based on the expected frequency of attack of around 50% based on what happens at the roadblock, it seems that avoiding the roadblock significantly reduces the chance of attack. However, I suspect that an attack will occur if someone else messes with my roadblock - can't really tell though.

Or maybe you're just having an extremely bad run of luck. Have you paid your respects to the RNG gods recently?

I guess I got extremely unlucky today. I always pick the route avoiding the first roadblock if I can. Sometimes I get no followers, sometimes I do, even after avoiding the roadblock. 
I suspect the same reason for being attacked, after avoiding the roadblock. Someone else might interfere. 
This evening I once picked a roadblock (for the looting collectable item from non player enemy), since I took off with a visually empty wagon without canape either. I waited for them to check it, since it was visually empty and riding/braking full speed didn't damage any load at all. So, I figured they wouldn't find anything anyway. They did and started shooting. Funny that they did cause damage to my shine batch, even though rough riding the wagon didn't. (I have screenshots and will post them tomorrow) 

[OrionSR]

1 hour ago, Leftover Pizza said:

I guess I got extremely unlucky today.

Here's an idea. I'll ride shotgun with you. Do you play on Xbox?

[Leftover Pizza]

1 minute ago, OrionSR said:

Here's an idea. I'll ride shotgun with you. Do you play on Xbox?

Thanks for the offer. I am on PS4, though. It’s not much of a bother. The reasons why I do moonshiner sales is for either daily challenges or to get a 20/20 sale done for ocd reasons

[OrionSR]

Probably just as well. After I wrote that I remembered that I've been having very bad luck with moonshine deliveries when I'm in a posse but I didn't want to retract the offer..

I usually get the black screen bug when I try moonshine deliveries in a posse, but my brother was able to completed the delivery as I cringed as he described how each bottle broke. I got money for the delivery, but no credit towards challenges, and had to reset anyway when it was over.

[S4P]

19 hours ago, Surebrec said:

does that mean they do or don't spawn?

look full lobbies are bad u show your spawns what were 4 ducks and to honsty i think u just come in the lobby and this is what it supposed to be like 

now i think players would rather get this what they supposed to get 

Edited January 20, 2020 by onoskelisss
my spelling is bad

[Surebrec]

1 hour ago, onoskelisss said:

look full lobbies are bad u show your spawns what were 4 ducks and to honsty i think u just come in the lobby and this is what it supposed to be like 

now i think players would rather get this what they supposed to get 

 

you're missing the point.

they might not be spawning in the numbers they should be, but they ARE still spawning. birds and bats are the only animals that are reliably spawning.

[S4P]

3 minutes ago, Surebrec said:

 

you're missing the point.

they might not be spawning in the numbers they should be, but they ARE still spawning. birds and bats are the only animals that are reliably spawning.

look people want all the spawns and with my experience only some animals come out 3% of the time for me and many others that leaves 97% of there being nothing and anyways this is a moonshine thread so cool   like all of us i hope rockstar will fix there game.

[AdamNortonUK]

Just found that you can get the ambush encounters whilst doing moonshine deliveries!

 

I was happily trotting along Tall Trees and ran into the skinners ambush encounter! At first I was confused and thought I was being ambushed by the Revenue Agents before I hit the roadblock but realised it was actually the skinner ambush encounter haha! Luckily I didn’t damage any of the bottles!

[Leftover Pizza]

21 hours ago, OrionSR said:

Probably just as well. After I wrote that I remembered that I've been having very bad luck with moonshine deliveries when I'm in a posse but I didn't want to retract the offer..

I usually get the black screen bug when I try moonshine deliveries in a posse, but my brother was able to completed the delivery as I cringed as he described how each bottle broke. I got money for the delivery, but no credit towards challenges, and had to reset anyway when it was over.

 

Bad luck turns into good luck sometimes. Got 3 deliveries done 20/20. 2 of them without any revenuers interference and the first delivery had only 1 revenuer chasing me, quite near the drop off. Shot him, looted his 9 cents and rode on. 

After having some good luck, the next deliveries will probably damage by sneezing at it. 

[OrionSR]

1 hour ago, Leftover Pizza said:

the next deliveries will probably damage by sneezing at it. 

Then I recommend equipping your bandana.

[joel15cat]

8 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

Just found that you can get the ambush encounters whilst doing moonshine deliveries!

 

I was happily trotting along Tall Trees and ran into the skinners ambush encounter! At first I was confused and thought I was being ambushed by the Revenue Agents before I hit the roadblock but realised it was actually the skinner ambush encounter haha! Luckily I didn’t damage any of the bottles!

You can get ambush always. No matter the free mode mission you are doing.

[S4P]

19 hours ago, AdamNortonUK said:

Just found that you can get the ambush encounters whilst doing moonshine deliveries!

 

I was happily trotting along Tall Trees and ran into the skinners ambush encounter! At first I was confused and thought I was being ambushed by the Revenue Agents before I hit the roadblock but realised it was actually the skinner ambush encounter haha! Luckily I didn’t damage any of the bottles!

lol u just find that out , all them full lobbies u been in lol yh in solo sessions they come out like wild fire when am doing the sell missions 

And guys u cant believe what happen to me today i got a black screen when i went to do a sell mission. lucky enough am smart and i know how to get out of it then back on my mission but its not the point , i thought rockstar fixed it  . so for people who don't know if u get stick all you do is , when your on the black screen join someone in a different lobby and when the alert comes up asking u do u want to join say NO then BANG your back in the room. And also am have in fun with the new stuff as xbox 1 players got today on rdr2 the new photo is great and happy xbox finley got that little story update 

Edited January 21, 2020 by onoskelisss