Popular Post VideoTech_ 1,656 Posted December 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Before proceeding to read, I would like to state this does not confirm any form of a future Mexico map expansion. This information is based on pure findings from the game files. Today, I have been investigating to see if Rockstar has any hidden models for Mexico in the game files based on 1.00 (PlayStation 4), but before going any further I do want to give my full credits to Daemon for the RPF extractor and mariokart64n (XnaLara Converter) for importing models into Autodesk 3ds Max [A massive thanks @Jestic for pointing that out, my deepest apologies for forgetting to mention you] . None of this would've been possible without the tools, a massive thanks to them! First of all, it looks like most of the Mexico models are disabled in-game. "nvo_01.rpf" has most town models including Chuparosa, Aboounded Grave Yard and such. Thanks to Autodesk 3DS Max and xnaLara Converter, I have been able to view the models. I've attached 13 screens below (click on show spoiler - save page space). Please bear in mind these models appear to be LOD only, I don't think any HQ models exist. LOD Textures There are textures too (LOD texture quality) - click on show spoiler Spoiler Scaleform Minimaps @WildBrick142 found scaleform minimaps regarding bounties and such. Blips Even more to add on top of that, thanks to CodeWalker (Thanks DexyFex!), I was able to convert the blip database from .YMT to a .XML file so, therefore, it's fully readable. These were the following hits I got from the files. <excluded>true</excluded> <key>BLIP_REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</key> <Linkage>REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage> <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags> </Item <Item> <excluded>true</excluded> <key>BLIP_REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</key> <Linkage>REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage> <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags> </Item> <Item> <Item> <excluded>true</excluded> <key>BLIP_BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</key> <Linkage>BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage> <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags> </Item> </Item> <Item> <excluded>true</excluded> <key>BLIP_BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</key> <Linkage>BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage> <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags> </Item> <Item> <Item> <excluded>true</excluded> <key>BLIP_LOCKOUT_NUEVO_PARAISO</key> <Linkage>LOCKOUT_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage> <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags> </Item> <Item> Cut Mexican Army NPC Model Quite some time ago @jedijosh920 found a cut NPC model named "S_M_M_MEXARMY_01" in the game files, but it appears the model does not load in game, likely the model was removed from the game. More Bounty & Wanted Lines of Code <Item type="MirroredValueInt" key="StateWantedLevelNuevoParaiso"> <SyncGroup value="1" /> <Value value="0" /> </Item> <Item type="MirroredValueInt" key="StateBountyNuevoParaiso"> <SyncGroup value="1" /> <Value value="0" /> </Item> Nuevo Paraiso Zones - at Pastebin https://pastebin.com/Eg2mdTX8 Nuevo Paraiso Location Coordinates for UI Quote 0x07FE8F04 = Chuparosa, Perdido, NP 0x1C5F6063 = Diez Coronas, NP 0x1D6954B5 = Perdido, NP 0x3BA7E9A5 = El Matadero Caves, Diez Coronas, NP 0x6B72F0E4 = Escalera, Punta Orgullo, NP 0x7E871234 = Mesa De La Luna, Diez Coronas, NP 0x8EECB4B1 = El Presidio, Diez Coronas, NP 0x9BBD59C3 = Roca Madera, Diez Coronas, NP 0x9EABC82C = Agave Viejo, Perdido, NP 0x32B009F8 = Tesoro Azul, Punta Orgullo, NP 0x49AF900E = Butter Bridge, Diez Coronas, NP 0x57CFCCD7 = Mesa Del Sol, Diez Coronas, NP 0x62BDA1FA = Casa Madrugada, Diez Coronas, NP 0x66A647D7 = Punta Orgullo, NP 0x69FFB18D = Plata Grande, Punta Orgullo, NP 0x88B9ABBA = Sepulcro, Perdido, NP 0x98B4376D = Sidewinder Gulch, Punta Orgullo, NP 0x669FCC2A = Rancho Polvo, NP 0x2047C889 = Hendidura Grande, Perdido, NP 0x2649C2C7 = Laguna Borrego, Perdido, NP 0x4575D96C = El Matadero, Diez Coronas, NP 0x96840319 = Nosalida, Punta Orgullo, NP 0xAA23BCE4 = Rio del Toro, Perdido, NP 0xB7C731E2 = Primero Quebrada, Perdido, NP 0xB7CEA307 = Barranca, Perdido, NP 0xCE927B62 = Las Hermanas, Perdido, NP 0xE03CE9E1 = Torquemada, Diez Coronas, NP 0xE343BB76 = Crooked Toes, Punta Orgullo, NP 0xF4954BCC = Alta Cabeza, Diez Coronas, NP 0xFBF60009 = Diablo Ojo, Punta Orgullo, NP 0xFD90F656 = Campo Mirado, Perdido, NP Edited December 17, 2019 by VideoTech UK 63 Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 6,181 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Great finds! 6 Link to post Share on other sites
XenoJiiva 136 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Amazing find. This could be proof that they did work on NP at some point. Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScout 7,039 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Impressive stuff! Now you need to find a bunker because the PIs are coming 😛. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
cp1dell 2,937 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Aw sh*t, herewe go again. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TheJesus1996 1,831 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Bounty hunting was planned in NP? Link to post Share on other sites
MonsieurEcho 26 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Amazing discoveries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jippa_lippa 607 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I absolutely think the addition of Mexico (alongside more New Austin content) was contemplated during development, but then said development times became so biblical, they decided to focus on the northern regions only, especially considering the insane amount of things to discover dotted around the map. This would totally explain why New Austin is absolutely gorgeous graphically, but basically free of any remarkable features and completely free of content. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
skyfamster 748 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Quote PS4 version 1.0 Do you mean this models/codes exist since game released? or from recently updated files? Edited December 4, 2019 by skyfamster Link to post Share on other sites
vikc 19 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I think it's more likely to be cut content 😞 Link to post Share on other sites
CrissRiot 821 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Pretty awesome imo, here's hoping it leads to something. Link to post Share on other sites
pariah87 1,466 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, skyfamster said: Do you mean this models/codes exist since game released? or from recently updated files? Since PS4 Version 1.00 (release) Link to post Share on other sites
Jabalous 8,089 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Being low-poly models, I guess they were supposed to be placed at their respective locations, as in Redemption of 2010, which can only be viewed from distance, similar to the El Presidio military fort. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Jacob 1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 This is not really a new find, nor something that needed datamining. This location is accessible in the game (by glitching to mexico) Here's a video where someone explores this area: 1 Link to post Share on other sites
VideoTech_ 1,656 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Lil' Jacob said: This is not really a new find, nor something that needed datamining. This location is accessible in the game (by glitching to mexico) Here's a video where someone explores this area: That's the only building (fort) that is in-game. The others are not in-game. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
DuPz0r 6,181 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The question I'm wondering is, have they removed them since v1.00? Does the PC version still have them or not? If they have removed them, it would be interesting. Could either be because they have no plans to add NP, or secondly because they do plan to, and dont want people like you guys finding evidence of it! 😂 1 Link to post Share on other sites
VideoTech_ 1,656 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) The meta data file for those interested has a date/time but most of the file was encrypted though. Quote vwxy_3_6_area_lod�Leigh�23 June 2018 15:33 There was another RPF that has all the forts and towns in one LOD model, interesting. That one file weighs at 1.4MB. While looking this morning, I missed a model On another note, I've found slightly higher resolution LOD textures. Edited December 4, 2019 by VideoTech UK 10 Link to post Share on other sites
docpain222 2,515 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Would only make sense that mexico will be added in the future.. great find! Link to post Share on other sites
Cutter De Blanc 15,233 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Well sh*t, even the illusion of mexico would be nice. I wonder why they disabled every place except El Presidio 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jabalous 8,089 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said: Well sh*t, even the illusion of mexico would be nice. I wonder why they disabled every place except El Presidio I wondered the same. Maybe because it's the closest to New Austin, so they decided that it had to be there. In Redemption of 2010, You can see Chuparosa, other towns and outposts from NA. It wasn't worth the effort of creating the illusion and thus it was later dropped? It'd be a reasonable answer, but it's a strange one when considering that it's R* which is known for being obsessive in regard to small details. Edited December 4, 2019 by Jabalous 3 Link to post Share on other sites
cp1dell 2,937 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) June 2018 is pretty close to release for something that isn’t in the game. Wonder if it is something they are still working on? Edited December 4, 2019 by cp1dell 4 Link to post Share on other sites
TheJesus1996 1,831 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Red Dead Remake incoming! Link to post Share on other sites
Jutland 164 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, cp1dell said: June 2018 is pretty close to release for something that isn’t in the game. Wonder if it is something they are still working on? Especially because the printed material (I’m thinking of the official guide book and the foldout map in the game box) probably had substantial lead-in times. It takes a lot of time to write and design a coffee-table style book and get it printed up and bound, and shipped. The official guide book to RDR2 does not look a rush job. The guide was in stores in October 2018. Someone must have signed off approval on the final draft of the text for it at least a month before it was available, probably even longer, sometime over the summer. Which makes June even closer. Link to post Share on other sites
Awful Waffle 383 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said: Well sh*t, even the illusion of mexico would be nice. I wonder why they disabled every place except El Presidio because Presidio is the only location you can actually see (in detail) from New Austin. Link to post Share on other sites
VideoTech_ 1,656 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Post has been updated with a little bit of more findings from today, I think that's it for now but if anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post. Edited December 4, 2019 by VideoTech UK 4 Link to post Share on other sites
XenoJiiva 136 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, VideoTech UK said: Post has been updated with a little bit of more findings from today, I think that's it for now but if anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post. Is it possible those textures are left over from rdr1? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
VideoTech_ 1,656 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, XenoJiiva said: Is it possible those textures are left over from rdr1? It looks like some textures have updated whilst some haven't after looking at some comparisons, but some texture work has definitely been done. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
XenoJiiva 136 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, VideoTech UK said: It looks like some textures have updated whilst some haven't after looking at some comparisons, but some texture work has definitely been done. Seems they may of had a few artists working on it but then we're pulled off it to work on other stuff early on. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheMadHammer 860 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I'm gonna err on the side of these simply being carried over from RDR1 and disabled instead of full on deleted. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Cutter De Blanc 15,233 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 So I'm wandering through mexico today, cuz this topic inspired me to screw around down there, and much to my extreme surprise I scared a single tiny bird off of a cactus on the far south side near sidewinder gulch due south of the I in River. Its the only other living creature I've seen out here so far 8 Link to post Share on other sites