Nuevo Paraiso Discovery - Datamining

[videotechx]

Before proceeding to read, I would like to state this does not confirm any form of a future Mexico map expansion. This information is based on pure findings from the game files.

 

Today, I have been investigating to see if Rockstar has any hidden models for Mexico in the game files based on 1.00 (PlayStation 4), but before going any further I do want to give my full credits to Daemon for the RPF extractor and mariokart64n (XnaLara Converter) for importing models into Autodesk 3ds Max [A massive thanks @Jestic for pointing that out, my deepest apologies for forgetting to mention you] . None of this would've been possible without the tools, a massive thanks to them!  

 

First of all, it looks like most of the Mexico models are disabled in-game. "nvo_01.rpf" has most town models including Chuparosa, Aboounded Grave Yard and such. Thanks to Autodesk 3DS Max and xnaLara Converter, I have been able to view the models. I've attached 13 screens below (click on show spoiler - save page space). Please bear in mind these models appear to be LOD only, I don't think any HQ models exist. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOD Textures 

 

There are textures too (LOD texture quality) - click on show spoiler 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scaleform Minimaps

 

@WildBrick142 found scaleform minimaps regarding bounties and such.

 

 

Blips

 

Even more to add on top of that, thanks to CodeWalker (Thanks DexyFex!), I was able to convert the blip database from .YMT to a .XML file so, therefore, it's fully readable. These were the following hits I got from the files.

 

  <excluded>true</excluded>
    <key>BLIP_REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</key>
    <Linkage>REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage>
    <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags>
   </Item
 
   <Item>
    <excluded>true</excluded>
    <key>BLIP_REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</key>
    <Linkage>REGION_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage>
    <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags>
   </Item>
   <Item>
 
   <Item>
    <excluded>true</excluded>
    <key>BLIP_BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</key>
    <Linkage>BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage>
    <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags>
   </Item>
 
 </Item>
   <Item>
    <excluded>true</excluded>
    <key>BLIP_BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</key>
    <Linkage>BOUNTY_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage>
    <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags>
   </Item>
   <Item>
 
 <Item>
    <excluded>true</excluded>
    <key>BLIP_LOCKOUT_NUEVO_PARAISO</key>
    <Linkage>LOCKOUT_NUEVO_PARAISO</Linkage>
    <Flags>OnWorldLayer</Flags>
   </Item>
   <Item>
 

 

Cut Mexican Army NPC Model

 

Quite some time ago @jedijosh920 found a cut NPC model named "S_M_M_MEXARMY_01" in the game files, but it appears the model does not load in game, likely the model was removed from the game. 

 

More Bounty & Wanted Lines of Code 

 

<Item type="MirroredValueInt" key="StateWantedLevelNuevoParaiso">
      <SyncGroup value="1" />
      <Value value="0" />
    </Item> 

 

<Item type="MirroredValueInt" key="StateBountyNuevoParaiso">
      <SyncGroup value="1" />
      <Value value="0" />
    </Item>

 

Nuevo Paraiso Zones - at Pastebin

 

https://pastebin.com/Eg2mdTX8

 

Nuevo Paraiso Location Coordinates for UI 

 

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0x07FE8F04 = Chuparosa, Perdido, NP
0x1C5F6063 = Diez Coronas, NP
0x1D6954B5 = Perdido, NP
0x3BA7E9A5 = El Matadero Caves, Diez Coronas, NP
0x6B72F0E4 = Escalera, Punta Orgullo, NP
0x7E871234 = Mesa De La Luna, Diez Coronas, NP
0x8EECB4B1 = El Presidio, Diez Coronas, NP
0x9BBD59C3 = Roca Madera, Diez Coronas, NP
0x9EABC82C = Agave Viejo, Perdido, NP
0x32B009F8 = Tesoro Azul, Punta Orgullo, NP
0x49AF900E = Butter Bridge, Diez Coronas, NP
0x57CFCCD7 = Mesa Del Sol, Diez Coronas, NP
0x62BDA1FA = Casa Madrugada, Diez Coronas, NP
0x66A647D7 = Punta Orgullo, NP
0x69FFB18D = Plata Grande, Punta Orgullo, NP
0x88B9ABBA = Sepulcro, Perdido, NP
0x98B4376D = Sidewinder Gulch, Punta Orgullo, NP
0x669FCC2A = Rancho Polvo, NP
0x2047C889 = Hendidura Grande, Perdido, NP
0x2649C2C7 = Laguna Borrego, Perdido, NP
0x4575D96C = El Matadero, Diez Coronas, NP
0x96840319 = Nosalida, Punta Orgullo, NP
0xAA23BCE4 = Rio del Toro, Perdido, NP
0xB7C731E2 = Primero Quebrada, Perdido, NP
0xB7CEA307 = Barranca, Perdido, NP 0xCE927B62 = Las Hermanas, Perdido, NP
0xE03CE9E1 = Torquemada, Diez Coronas, NP
0xE343BB76 = Crooked Toes, Punta Orgullo, NP
0xF4954BCC = Alta Cabeza, Diez Coronas, NP
0xFBF60009 = Diablo Ojo, Punta Orgullo, NP
0xFD90F656 = Campo Mirado, Perdido, NP

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2019 by VideoTech UK

[DuPz0r]

Great finds! 

[XenoJiiva]

Amazing find. This could be proof that they did work on NP at some point.

[BS_BlackScout]

Impressive stuff! Now you need to find a bunker because the PIs are coming .

[cp1dell]

Aw sh*t, herewe go again.

[LittleJesus]

Bounty hunting was planned in NP? 

[MonsieurEcho]

Amazing discoveries.

[jippa_lippa]

I absolutely think the addition of Mexico (alongside more New Austin content) was contemplated during development, but then said development times became so biblical, they decided to focus on the northern regions only, especially considering the insane amount of things to discover dotted around the map.

This would totally explain why New Austin is absolutely gorgeous graphically, but basically free of any remarkable features and completely free of content.

[skyfamster]

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PS4 version 1.0

Do you mean this models/codes exist since game released? or from recently updated files?

Edited December 4, 2019 by skyfamster

[vikc]

I think it's more likely to be cut content

[CrissRiot]

Pretty awesome imo, here's hoping it leads to something.

[pariah87]

2 hours ago, skyfamster said:

Do you mean this models/codes exist since game released? or from recently updated files?

Since PS4 Version 1.00 (release)

[Jabalous]

Being low-poly models, I guess they were supposed to be placed at their respective locations, as in Redemption of 2010, which can only be viewed from distance, similar to the El Presidio military fort. 

[Lil' Jacob]

This is not really a new find, nor something that needed datamining. This location is accessible in the game (by glitching to mexico)

 

Here's a video where someone explores this area:

 

 

[videotechx]

16 minutes ago, Lil' Jacob said:

This is not really a new find, nor something that needed datamining. This location is accessible in the game (by glitching to mexico)

 

Here's a video where someone explores this area:

 

 

That's the only building (fort) that is in-game. The others are not in-game.

[DuPz0r]

The question I'm wondering is, have they removed them since v1.00? Does the PC version still have them or not? If they have removed them, it would be interesting. Could either be because they have no plans to add NP, or secondly because they do plan to, and dont want people like you guys finding evidence of it!

[videotechx]

The meta data file for those interested has a date/time but most of the file was encrypted though. 

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vwxy_3_6_area_lod�Leigh�23 June 2018 15:33

There was another RPF that has all the forts and towns in one LOD model, interesting. That one file weighs at 1.4MB.

 

 

While looking this morning, I missed a model  

 

 

On another note, I've found slightly higher resolution LOD textures.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2019 by VideoTech UK

[docpain222]

Would only make sense that mexico will be added in the future.. great find! 

[Cutter De Blanc]

Well sh*t, even the illusion of mexico would be nice. I wonder why they disabled every place except El Presidio

[Jabalous]

2 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Well sh*t, even the illusion of mexico would be nice. I wonder why they disabled every place except El Presidio

I wondered the same. Maybe because it's the closest to New Austin, so they decided that it had to be there. In Redemption of 2010, You can see Chuparosa, other towns and outposts from NA. It wasn't worth the effort of creating the illusion and thus it was later dropped? It'd be a reasonable answer, but it's a strange one when considering that it's R* which is known for being obsessive in regard to small details. 

Edited December 4, 2019 by Jabalous

[cp1dell]

June 2018 is pretty close to release for something that isn’t in the game. Wonder if it is something they are still working on?

Edited December 4, 2019 by cp1dell

[LittleJesus]

Red Dead Remake incoming! 

[Jutland]

1 hour ago, cp1dell said:

June 2018 is pretty close to release for something that isn’t in the game. Wonder if it is something they are still working on?

Especially because the printed material (I’m thinking of the official guide book and the foldout map in the game box) probably had substantial lead-in times. It takes a lot of time to write and design a coffee-table style book and get it printed up and bound, and shipped. The official guide book to RDR2 does not look a rush job.

 

The guide was in stores in October 2018. Someone must have signed off approval on the final draft of the text for it at least a month before it was available, probably even longer, sometime over the summer. Which makes June even closer.

[Awful Waffle]

3 hours ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

Well sh*t, even the illusion of mexico would be nice. I wonder why they disabled every place except El Presidio

because Presidio is the only location you can actually see (in detail) from New Austin.

[videotechx]

Post has been updated with a little bit of more findings from today, I think that's it for now but if anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post.   

Edited December 4, 2019 by VideoTech UK

[XenoJiiva]

5 minutes ago, VideoTech UK said:

Post has been updated with a little bit of more findings from today, I think that's it for now but if anything else comes up, I'll be sure to post.   

Is it possible those textures are left over from rdr1? 

[videotechx]

2 minutes ago, XenoJiiva said:

Is it possible those textures are left over from rdr1? 

It looks like some textures have updated whilst some haven't after looking at some comparisons, but some texture work has definitely been done.

[XenoJiiva]

6 minutes ago, VideoTech UK said:

It looks like some textures have updated whilst some haven't after looking at some comparisons, but some texture work has definitely been done.

Seems they may of had a few artists working on it but then we're pulled off it to work on other stuff early on.

[Cutter De Blanc]

So I'm wandering through mexico today, cuz this topic inspired me to screw around down there, and much to my extreme surprise I scared a single tiny bird off of a cactus on the far south side near sidewinder gulch due south of the I in River. Its the only other living creature I've seen out here so far

[Jimbatron]

I wonder how much work it would be for them to actually bring Mexico fully into the same and release a remastered RDR original expansion for RDR2. These models suggest, not much.

 

The danger unfortunately is that all their map artists are now fully devoted to GTA VI.