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nealmac

Good/Bad Lobby Etiquette

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nealmac

Ok, so griefing. Unless you're a 10 year old kid with nothing better to do, griefing is bad. It's a no brainer.

 

But here's something I wanted to ask you guys. It's about business battles. I think they need a minimum of 3 players in the lobby for them to spawn. I'm asking if killing other players who have already collected the cargo during a business battle is cool or not cool? I always took the viewpoint business battles were fair game for killing each other, until either time is up, or someone delivers the cargo. Am I right or wrong on this? The other night I shot down a guy in a Buzzard and managed to get the cargo off him and deliver it to my nightclub. 5 minutes later I noticed I couldn't register as a CEO. I got a message saying I had been banned from registering as a CEO due to my behaviour toward my associates. I didn't even have any associates at the time. So I can only assume that the guy I tackled had a mod menu or something and took his rage out on me. The block lasted about half an hour or so.

 

Also, what are some other good/bad forms of forum etiquette? I personally hate people that don't thank others for helping them out. All it takes is a quick message on the chat screen. It's not going to kill people. Manners cost nothing.

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StangOne50

Etiquette in gta? Lmaooo Funny dude. Just play the game how you want to play.

The banned from ceo thing is interesting, never heard that one before but you mention mod menu so I assume you're on pc.

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nealmac

Yeah sorry, I forgot to mention I'm on PC.

 

And yeah, GTA and Etiquette in the same sentence. The world is gonna explode 😂

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Tomtomsengermany

ive attacked and destroyed only one sale from a other player in my whole life.

 

he ran me over in a contact mission and tried it again after i respawned.

 

we ended up in the same lobby and he really tried to sell his products in there.

 

i destroyed his products and spawnkilled him for 30 minutes.

 

#goodbehaviour

Edited by Tomtomsengermany

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Big Molio

I've had a few people crying that I stole their Business Battle crate from them. It is usually double the salt if you take one crate back to the nightclub, then go and take the other from them as well. 

 

Business Battles, like all Freemode games (I'm talking Piracy Prevention, Torched, Executive Search etc) are PvP by their very nature. Don't start them if you don't want to play them is my motto. Too many players hog the lobby and start these jobs in the mistaken belief that they are their cash cow, at which they must not be interrupted. They think they can hang around on their yacht or fly from Headhunter target to Headhunter target for example, then get all uppity when they are stopped by players who, you know, play them.

 

My Freemode activity primarily involves hanging around waiting for these to start, then winning them.

Edited by Big Molio

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nealmac
10 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

I've had a few people crying that I stole their Business Battle crate from them. It is usually double the salt if you take one crate back to the nightclub, then go and take the other from them as well. 

 

Business Battles, like all Freemode games (I'm talking Piracy Prevention, Torched, Executive Search etc) are PvP by their very nature. Don't start them if you don't want to play them is my motto.

 

My Freemode activity primarily involves hanging around waiting for these to start, then winning them.

Agreed. This pretty much sums up how I feel, and this is why I thought I'd ask. These jobs are fair game for attacking each other. I don't count that as griefing. I obviously just happened upon a sulky little bitch.

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dieseltech20

Only thing I don’t like is when some lazy f*cker on his MK2 sits around while I do all the work to collect the goods. Once you kill all the targets or clear the waves and collect they come kill you and fly away with your stuff. 
 

That said, they are called battles and I fully expect other players to come after me when participating. 9 times out of 10 no other players participate though. 

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DentureDynamite

Hmm; good question.

 

My view:

 

* Never kick a player from a session if they're minding their own business.

* Leave other players alone, unless they persistently get too close, attempt to ram your vehicle, or shoot at you (bounties are a toss-up).

* All griefing MK2 players will be relentlessly hunted down with a FLR2K until they leave the session.

* Commend helpful/friendly players whenever you can.

* Give grinding players a heads-up why you're heading in their direction if you have legit business near their location.

Edited by DentureDynamite

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Halal Cyborg

I’m normally solo but if I’m in a public lobby I tend to do the following.

 

turn off homing on rockets when passing other players.

always take care of npcs for others if nearby that they’re dealing with.

 

if I see someone is being a dick to anyone I kick them.

 

if I’m free I offer help to others sales wise.

only reason I have to attack others is business battle but I try to avoid it at all costs.

 

absolutely never go after anyone conducting sales and I keep my wits about me for them as well as myself map wise and will maybe at worst attack someone trying to attack them.

 

been playing since launch and pvp in freeroam is so hollow and pointless for me.

 

i tend to stick solo for the most part...I tried starting a friendly crew and while making a few pals there I ended up leaving as I can’t deal with others for the most part lol

7 minutes ago, DentureDynamite said:

* Give grinding players a heads-up why you're heading in their direction if you have legit business near their location.

 Ah yes I forgot this...I let them know I’m peaceful too in general so as not to worry them that I’m using an oppressor to sell 3 trashmasters 

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nealmac
15 hours ago, DentureDynamite said:

Hmm; good question.

 

My view:

 

* Never kick a player from a session if they're minding their own business.

* Leave other players alone, unless they persistently get too close, attempt to ram your vehicle, or shoot at you (bounties are a toss-up).

* All griefing MK2 players will be relentlessly hunted down with a FLR2K until they leave the session.

* Commend helpful/friendly players whenever you can.

* Give grinding players a heads-up why you're heading in their direction if you have legit business near their location.

All good points. I especially like your last one. I never thought of that before, and it's a good idea.

15 hours ago, Halal Cyborg said:

turn off homing on rockets when passing other players.

I do this as well, so they don't hear the noise letting them know they've been locked on. If I forget to do it and hear myself locking on, I'll apologise for it. 

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nealmac

How about etiquette when it comes to dividing out the cuts on heists? I think 20% should be absolute minimum. I’ll go to 25% if someone has been helping during to setup missions. 15% is just the work of a complete tight wad.

 

Also, big shout out to the rich guys and ladies (you know who you are) that ask for 0%. These people are doing it purely for the fun element. They don’t want to f*ck lower ranked players over and that’s really nice to see. 

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FrugalDangerMan
On 12/3/2019 at 6:36 AM, Tomtomsengermany said:

ive attacked and destroyed only one sale from a other player in my whole life.

 

he ran me over in a contact mission and tried it again after i respawned.

 

we ended up in the same lobby and he really tried to sell his products in there.

 

i destroyed his products and spawnkilled him for 30 minutes.

 

#goodbehaviour

Edited for length repost:

 

Start a bunker sale mission. Green Insurgent/Merrywether. Of course.  

 

I complete drop 1 and 2 but at drop 3 I notice a player pulling up in an Armored Karuma and another riding a MKII. I hear rockets raining down on the Insurgent so I'm like "whatever" and close the app back to the PSN screen. I mean, it's only a loss of $10K.  

 

When the game re-loads, I quickly check the state of the lobby.......And notice that the players seem eerily similar to the lobby I had just left and not far from where I was just ambushed I see two blips in the same MC, one riding a MKII. IT'S THEM....and both blips are also carrying crates......  

 

No, they cant be the kind of douch bags who go after other players and their product then try to sell their own, could they? 

 

So, I call in my Akula,  go stealth and head over to pay my respects.   I approach  get a lock on the Karuma and blow that sad sack to hell. Then I get a lock on MKII and BOOM. Kill. His crate was fine though. 

 

I fly off and hover behind some buildings and while he's calling Moors, I call a mugger. No cash but it was fun seeing that he was mugged. He mounts his MKII again and heads over to the fallen product. I take this as my time to act and fly at him again, fire off another 5 missiles, blow up his MKII (again) and sadly, his product as well. Sale mission failed.

 

Darn. Ain't karma a bitch?

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nealmac
3 minutes ago, FrugalDangerMan said:

Edited for length repost:

 

Start a bunker sale mission. Green Insurgent/Merrywether. Of course.  

 

I complete drop 1 and 2 but at drop 3 I notice a player pulling up in an Armored Karuma and another riding a MKII. I hear rockets raining down on the Insurgent so I'm like "whatever" and close the app back to the PSN screen. I mean, it's only a loss of $10K.  

 

When the game re-loads, I quickly check the state of the lobby.......And notice that the players seem eerily similar to the lobby I had just left and not far from where I was just ambushed I see two blips in the same MC, one riding a MKII. IT'S THEM....and both blips are also carrying crates......  

 

No, they cant be the kind of douch bags who go after other players and their product then try to sell their own, could they? 

 

So, I call in my Akula,  go stealth and head over to pay my respects.   I approach  get a lock on the Karuma and blow that sad sack to hell. Then I get a lock on MKII and BOOM. Kill. His crate was fine though. 

 

I fly off and hover behind some buildings and while he's calling Moors, I call a mugger. No cash but it was fun seeing that he was mugged. He mounts his MKII again and heads over to the fallen product. I take this as my time to act and fly at him again, fire off another 5 missiles, blow up his MKII (again) and sadly, his product as well. Sale mission failed.

 

Darn. Ain't karma a bitch?

I don't see a problem with that. Revenge is perfectly acceptable as far as I'm concerned.

 

Although I personally wouldn't bother myself. Footing the 12k bill for his Mk2 would kill me. And also, I suck at PvP so I'd probably end up dying again.

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FrugalDangerMan
10 minutes ago, nealmac said:

I don't see a problem with that. Revenge is perfectly acceptable as far as I'm concerned.

 

Although I personally wouldn't bother myself. Footing the 12k bill for his Mk2 would kill me. And also, I suck at PvP so I'd probably end up dying again.

 

I was sitting on $55 million at the time, so the insurance wasn't an issue. If I wanted too, I could just run a contact mission playlist and make it all back in 30 min.

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Big Molio
1 hour ago, nealmac said:

How about etiquette when it comes to dividing out the cuts on heists? I think 20% should be absolute minimum. I’ll go to 25% if someone has been helping during to setup missions. 15% is just the work of a complete tight wad.

 

Also, big shout out to the rich guys and ladies (you know who you are) that ask for 0%. These people are doing it purely for the fun element. They don’t want to f*ck lower ranked players over and that’s really nice to see. 

I always give 100% of the cash to anybody that I beat at the Freemode jobs. It's so funny getting abuse from them, only for them to message again later with "Thnx!!!!!"

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nealmac
51 minutes ago, FrugalDangerMan said:

 

I was sitting on $55 million at the time, so the insurance wasn't an issue. If I wanted too, I could just run a contact mission playlist and make it all back in 30 min.

Yeah, but it's not the money. It's the principle of the thing 😂

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Black-Dragon96
On 12/3/2019 at 11:45 AM, nealmac said:

I got a message saying I had been banned from registering as a CEO due to my behaviour toward my associates.

Since you said you are on PC, I can confirm to you that a scriptkid blocked you from becoming a CEO by triggering a R* build in feature with his menu.

As far as I know this thing was originaly designed by R to punish CEOs who intentionally blow up their associates carrying cargo multiple times during a specific timeframe.

 

On the part of BBs:

Fair game imo. BB cargo does not belong to anyone and everyone can make the exact same out of it.

Other cargo is not. It costs lots of time and in some cases money go aquire and blowing it up for 2k is just a dick move. An small exeption here are stealing airfreight and vehicle cargo heading towards their respective warehouses since you get the same amount the actuall owner would get if you deliver it to your own warehouse. Would not do that myself but I personally would not see it as bad either.

 

If I see someone destroying cargo unprovoked, I'll get my P996 Lazer and turn his a$$ into swiss cheese.

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J-Scott-D

I've had to go after two players this week in different incidents involving killing/harassing the Burton LSC mechanic while I'm trying to sell Custom Sentinels.

 

Two RC Bandito kills per player, the second one put a bounty on my heroic RC truck and actually teleported to his Facility in an attempt to destroy it, lol. 

 

Never mess with another man's automobile. :)

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Standard Deluxe 59
On 12/4/2019 at 7:57 AM, nealmac said:

How about etiquette when it comes to dividing out the cuts on heists? I think 20% should be absolute minimum. I’ll go to 25% if someone has been helping during to setup missions. 15% is just the work of a complete tight wad.

Depends:

Did the players or at least one of them help complete all the setups and were they actually half decent? Okay, I can see giving helpful and loyal players a 20% cut. 

 

Did the players just join the finale and weren't there to help with the setups? Then I think it's okay to give those who just joined the finale 15%.

 

Now, I'll reward that one player who stuck around through the setups with a 25% cut (assuming it's a four man heist and only one helper stuck around) while I take 45% and give the two remaining players who only joined the finale the default 15%.

 

Call me a tightwad if you want, but I don't see a reason to give players who just joined the finale the same cut as one who stuck it out through the setups.

 

My justification for it is, if I just joined a finale the default cut is fine for me because I didn't do any of the setups. Sometimes I'll tell the host to give me 10% or the lowest cut (on Fleeca) so I at least don't lose money on ammo costs though. Now as to why I won't split the cut evenly with everyone, is because I'm fronting the cost to do the heist and earn nothing in the setups. I think that generally, if the players complete all the setups and the host does the cut at 40/20/20/20 then all four players earn roughly the same amount of money. 

 

I don't think 10% is a reasonable cut though, regardless of the heist or amount of setups completed. That's being a real tightwad if you ask me.

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RaigeGames

IMO Business Battles are totally fair game, as are VIP jobs. Business battles are quite literally designed to be battled over and if a player thinks that the goods should be theirs just because they got there first is just wrong. Same with VIP jobs, don't start them if you aren't prepared for players to oppose you. 

 

As for heist cuts, if they're a player who just joined for the finale (didn't do any set up or prep missions) then I think it's ok to give them a lower payout (~20%) but if a player has helped you with other missions in the heist sequence they deserve a bigger cut

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gtafan26
On 12/3/2019 at 9:55 AM, Big Molio said:

I've had a few people crying that I stole their Business Battle crate from them. It is usually double the salt if you take one crate back to the nightclub, then go and take the other from them as well. 

 

 

Oh yeah,  Ive had some players get really salty with me for beating them out, like they spend the rest of the time trying to get me back, its sad and entertaining at the same time.

 

BB's are 100% fair game, and I really enjoy doing them, even the few times I get my ass handed to me and lose out, all freemode work is fair game, that's just how it is.   I don't personally mess with any player that is trying to earn money, and I will even help them out and try and defend them from time to time if I am near by.   

 

Generally speaking, I try to treat all players the same like I want to be treated, and that is left the f*ck alone , I am not going to kill random players for no reason, but you attack me or, attempt to attack me, and I will unleash holly hell on you for doing so. ( unless you are a better player than me and hands my ass back to me like today lol)

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MrARCO

Funny thing in GTAO is: there are no rules in GTAO. You can grief or play reasonable, and it's completely up to you. Some people choose to be a complete asshole online because they enjoy that sense of power. There are no etiguettes in GTAO, just play how you want to play. If it's wrong/bad, that's a question only you can answer because it's different for a lot of people.

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