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povke

New discovery about the trucking missions

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povke

I used the All Mission Access Mod in the very beginning of the game, passed the Tanker Commander mission using it. After that, the Trucking missions got available. The most interesting thing is that the first 4 missions were available, and after passing them I got this least expected message, which you can never see in the normal game because it's not possible to do the Trucking missions before unlocking Flint County and San Fierro by default:

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You get this type of message when you pass the first 6 Trucking missions before unlocking Las Venturas.

 

So, if Rockstar had created that message I've found, is it possible that in the beta, the first 4 Trucking missions were planned to be available from the beginning of the game and that the Flint County, just like the Red Country, was supposed to be enterable from the start and the bridges leading to it weren't closed and it's entering didn't trigger 4 star wanted level (maybe only when entering San Fierro)?

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Lioshenka

This is amazing.

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povke
1 minute ago, Lioshenka said:

This is amazing.

It really is. When I found this, I was amazed like never, didn't even believe it myself.

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lil weasel
 

 

The Last two missions require the third island (Los Venturas) to be open

Hardly amazing, hardly worth the mention.

When Using game Modifications, anything is possible.

besides:

The GTA San Andreas forum is NOT for Modding, Modding questions, Modding problems, nor Modding discussions.

 

Please, repost in the proper section of the GTA Mods Forum:

https://gtaforums.com/forum/281-gta-mods/

Edited by lil weasel

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povke

Everything is explained in this topic. However, some moderator locked it for a while because he thought that it was a mod, which is clearly not because all of you can try that yourselves and you'll see. The trucking has 8 missions, where the first 4 are available from the start of the game, 5th and 6th require access to San Fierro, and the last 2 require access to Las Venturas. So do you think is it possible that the Flint County, along with the Red County, was originally supposed to be enterable from the beginning of the game, it's entering didn't trigger 4 star wanted level and the bridges leading to it weren't closed?

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Ricbit

I believe that Flint County could be accessed without any problem at a very early stage of the game, San Fierro maybe not until we complete the mission of "Are you going to San Fierro?" And the trucker missions were unlocked from the beginning of the game and the mission "Tanker Comander" did not exist for that phase of the game. Then you could do the trucker missions quietly until mission 5 and 6, which as you say require (required maybe) access to San Fierro

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povke
2 hours ago, Ricbit said:

I believe that Flint County could be accessed without any problem at a very early stage of the game, San Fierro maybe not until we complete the mission of "Are you going to San Fierro?" And the trucker missions were unlocked from the beginning of the game and the mission "Tanker Comander" did not exist for that phase of the game. Then you could do the trucker missions quietly until mission 5 and 6, which as you say require (required maybe) access to San Fierro

I also support this theory. If you look at it closer, both Red and Flint Counties have the same country sheriff while there's an unused desert sheriff (dsher), which originally was supposed to be in Tierra Robada and Bone County. This even makes sense for this theory. While looking below at the screenshot I made, CJ's standing in the Flint County and there's still a message saying that the next trucking mission will be available when you'll have access to San Fierro. It most likely indicates that the city was completely separated by rivers. In the final version of the game, there are 2 rivers separating the city: one separating it from Tierra Robada and Bone County and the other one from Red County. So, in the beta, there must have been an another river, separating the city from Flint County. It must have looked something like this:

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This also makes a lot of sense because if you look closer, you can clearly see that there are leftovers of that river: there still is a part of that river separating Mount Chiliad from San Fierro and a little bit separating Flint County from Easter Bay Airport. Crossing that river before passing the Farewell, My Love mission was supposed to trigger 4 star wanted level.

 

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Ricbit
1 hour ago, povke said:

I also support this theory. If you look at it closer, both Red and Flint Counties have the same country sheriff while there's an unused desert sheriff (dsher), which originally was supposed to be in Tierra Robada and Bone County. This even makes sense for this theory. While looking below at the screenshot I made, CJ's standing in the Flint County and there's still a message saying that the next trucking mission will be available when you'll have access to San Fierro. It most likely indicates that the city was completely separated by rivers. In the final version of the game, there are 2 rivers separating the city: one separating it from Tierra Robada and Bone County and the other one from Red County. So, in the beta, there must have been an another river, separating the city from Flint County. It must have looked something like this:

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This also makes a lot of sense because if you look closer, you can clearly see that there are leftovers of that river: there still is a part of that river separating Mount Chiliad from San Fierro and a little bit separating Flint County from Easter Bay Airport. Crossing that river before passing the Farewell, My Love mission was supposed to trigger 4 star wanted level.

 

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It makes a lot of sense to me. They are the missing pieces

Edited by Ricbit
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povke
24 minutes ago, Ricbit said:

It makes a lot of sense to me. They are the missing pieces

But I think that the Tanker Commander mission did exist. Just San Fierro was yet locked at that part of the game so that's why I found that message.

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Ricbit

Well, I think there is if I deviate a little; I didn't consider that:/

 

A somewhat more formulated theory that I developed: Very well; Los Santos, Red County and Flint County from the beginning of the game were accessible without any problem, then the Trucker Missions at some point in history being in Los Santos or in the field would be unlocked Until mission 5, which already requires access to San Fierro, and San Fierro was not accessible since it separated it by several rivers and if you entered they gave you 4 search stars, which all the connection points with San Fierro by Road were Blocked. When you finish the mission "Forewer, My Love ..." You receive the call from The Truth and unlock the mission "Are You Going To San Fierro" And from that mission Every road access point to San Fierro would be Unlocked and you would not receive stars of search when entering San Fierro, and of course; All this at a very early stage.

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Duhillestpunk

The more you know. That game has been out for a long time and people are still finding new stuff.

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Lioshenka

Actually, another fact in support of this deleted river theory: if you take the road from the Easter Bay aeroport toward Angel Pine (parallel to the motorway), that eventually serpentines to the top of the hill with the farm savehouse, you will notice that there are thin holes in the ground suggesting that it was modelled and added at a later stage. This fits exactly above where the river would have been.

 

Need to do more research!

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Ricbit

Now it makes more sense why that gap is there

 

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They left a small portion of water where the river was supposed to be

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DOUGL4S1

Maybe the trucking missions were initially programmed somewhere else, and you could access it from the start of the game. For example, this would make sense if it was initially made in Palomino Creek.

 

And on the topic of a river going down there, the thing I think it's kinda weird is this part by a parking lot (notice the change in color on the grass too):

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Looking at the slopes there, it looks like it was meant for a canal to be there, sort of like in this other place nearby:

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And if that was the case, it probably was changed because it is pretty easy to jump that gap, even accidentally, when coming from the road above.

Edited by DOUGL4S1

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povke

This deleted river theory is most likely true. I think that since it was extremely easy to jump to San Fierro, it's obvious why Rockstar deleted that river. They saw no point the city being separated.

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Ricbit
On 12/6/2019 at 4:58 AM, povke said:

I think that since it was extremely easy to jump to San Fierro

But a surprise for the curious:lol: :miranda:

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