maxim444 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 No Im not talking about the graphics settings but what happens to the visuals while your character moves\camera moves...it seems to be out of focus for a few seconds and then it goes back to a sharp image. Is this intentional ? P3REiRAA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornberry1138 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, maxim444 said: No Im not talking about the graphics settings but what happens to the visuals while your character moves\camera moves...it seems to be out of focus for a few seconds and then it goes back to a sharp image. Is this intentional ? Glad I’m not the only one. Help on this would be very welcome. Even just scrolling around the map there’s this strange motion blur effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 It's TAA probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxim444 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mored said: It's TAA probably. its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, maxim444 said: its not Well if you have TAA enabled it probably is, TAA is very blurry in nature and is even worse when you move the camera around. Edited November 16, 2019 by Mored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxim444 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mored said: Well if you have TAA enabled it probably is, TAA is very blurry in nature and is even worse when you move the camera around. disabling TAA makes everything flicker and Arthur is pixelated. not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, maxim444 said: disabling TAA makes everything flicker and Arthur is pixelated. not worth it Yes that's what i'm saying, it's TAA causing the issue, the only way you might be able to fix the issue is using the Nvidia overlay to apply a sharpening filter, if you're using AMD i'm not sure then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxim444 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Mored said: Yes that's what i'm saying, it's TAA causing the issue, the only way you might be able to fix the issue is using the Nvidia overlay to apply a sharpening filter, if you're using AMD i'm not sure then. no....it gets rid of the blur but not the motion blur - you still need to stand still for the game to look the sharpest . Just the slightest camera movement and it's back to being blury for a few seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishRye Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) i dunno, try to turn ON the motion blur and taa sharpening set on max Edited November 16, 2019 by RuskiChleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheDowngrade Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) I've noticed this and seen others bring this up, saying GTAV does this, too. It's a Rage engine thing? Edited November 16, 2019 by UpTheDowngrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dead Rebel Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, maxim444 said: its not Yes it is. That's literally what TAA does. 3 hours ago, maxim444 said: no....it gets rid of the blur but not the motion blur - you still need to stand still for the game to look the sharpest . Just the slightest camera movement and it's back to being blury for a few seconds That's exactly how TAA works... Edited November 16, 2019 by Red Dead Rebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxim444 Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Red Dead Rebel said: Yes it is. That's literally what TAA does. That's exactly how TAA works... *sigh*....so there is no getting around it ? no fix ? I can't disable TAA or the game will look noticeably worse Edited November 16, 2019 by maxim444 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3REiRAA Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 hours ago, maxim444 said: No Im not talking about the graphics settings but what happens to the visuals while your character moves\camera moves...it seems to be out of focus for a few seconds and then it goes back to a sharp image. Is this intentional ? The only way I manage to reduce this effect was change resolution scale to 1.250 and keep TAA on medium. Tanks less FPS then MSAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oCrapaCreeper Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) There is no simple fix. It's TAA that causes the blur, but turning it off has noticeable tradeoffs in visuals because the game was designed around using it. Best you can do is put it at medium to get rid of the bulk of jaggies, and then apply a sharpening filter. The game has an in-game sharpening settting as well for TAA but if it even does anything, it's not noticeable. Edited November 16, 2019 by oCrapaCreeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Friendly Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Whens NVIDIA going to get sharpening to work with Vulkan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishRye Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Officer Friendly said: Whens NVIDIA going to get sharpening to work with Vulkan? you know that sharpening is a lie and it actually make it worse? it only works correctly on dx 10.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Dead Rebel Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, maxim444 said: *sigh*....so there is no getting around it ? no fix ? I can't disable TAA or the game will look noticeably worse TAA takes information from previous frames. That's why it looks blurry in motion because the frames are different. It looks sharp while standing still because the previous frames have the same information as the current frame. The only "fix" is to use another method of antialiasing like increasing the internal resolution scaling, using MSAA, or maybe SMAA through reshade if it works with the game. Edited November 16, 2019 by Red Dead Rebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxim444 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, RuskiChleb said: you know that sharpening is a lie and it actually make it worse? it only works correctly on dx 10.1 a lie ? I can open the nvidia filter menu with the geforce experience (ALT+F3) and use the sharpening slider. It makes the game look sharper and better so i don't know what you are talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay0 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Officer Friendly said: Whens NVIDIA going to get sharpening to work with Vulkan? It already works. Just not when you use it via NVCP, you have to use the Geforce Experience overlay and apply a filter using Nvidia Freestyle Edited November 17, 2019 by kay0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Officer Friendly said: Whens NVIDIA going to get sharpening to work with Vulkan? Use the geforce overlay and use the image filter with sharpening, same thing except it works with Vulkan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishRye Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 3 hours ago, maxim444 said: a lie ? I can open the nvidia filter menu with the geforce experience (ALT+F3) and use the sharpening slider. It makes the game look sharper and better so i don't know what you are talking about no, its the george lopez effect, they are lying to u, it doesnt make the game look better actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, RuskiChleb said: no, its the george lopez effect, they are lying to u, it doesnt make the game look better actually It's a sharpening effect, there's no placebo affect going on or anything, it simply makes the game sharper. Here are some comparison photos I did with it on (1st) and off (2nd). There is a difference. Although not a big difference, there is still one. Officer Friendly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishRye Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mored said: It's a sharpening effect, there's no placebo affect going on or anything, it simply makes the game sharper. Here are some comparison photos I did with it on (1st) and off (2nd). There is a difference. Although not a big difference, there is still one. yeah, but this is a lie, nvidia just makes ur mind sharper, it doesnt actually work me - an intelectual - i know, that there is no difference, beacuse my brain is defensive for those nvidia radio waves its called george lopez effect, but only inteligent people know about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, RuskiChleb said: yeah, but this is a lie, nvidia just makes ur mind sharper, it doesnt actually work me - an intelectual - i know, that there is no difference, beacuse my brain is defensive for those nvidia radio waves its called george lopez effect, but only inteligent people know about that Damn, is there somewhere I can learn this level of intelligence? Edited November 17, 2019 by Mored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishRye Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, Mored said: Damn, is there somewhere I can learn this level of intelligence? unfortunaly - no, but u can at least act intelligent, u can buy my book for 99 USD "u f00kin f00l" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, RuskiChleb said: unfortunaly - no, but u can at least act intelligent, u can buy my book for 99 USD "u f00kin f00l" ok will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gforce Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I definitely see trails coming off Arthur's feet when riding a horse quickly, even with MB turned off, especially noticeable going along the train tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mored Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gforce said: I definitely see trails coming off Arthur's feet when riding a horse quickly, even with MB turned off, especially noticeable going along the train tracks. That's called ghosting, another trait that comes along with TAA in some games. Can't be fixed unless you use another AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gforce Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mored said: That's called ghosting, another trait that comes along with TAA in some games. Can't be fixed unless you use another AA. Yeah, I forgot about how TAA uses the previous frame, switching to FXAA with MSAA on the first setting has definitely sharpened things up when on the move, really should have dawned on me sooner why I was still seeing MB effects, doh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
