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Dudu RDRII

MAJOR downgrades as of Patch 1.19!!! (Reports)

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Ironside
1 hour ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Yeah during cutscenes in chapter 6 Arthur coughs and spits blood out of his hair instead of his mouth lol.

 

 

Here's a  screen cap I brightened up from twitter so excuse the quality. 

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Thanks Rockstar! 

I am not too proud to admit this, but I have finished the story with a total percentage between 95%-100% more than ten times... It is probably closer to twenty times than ten at this stage. And yes, I do have a life outside of gaming as I am a professional historian with a wife, children and the whole average Joe package. So with that said I hope you guys do not judge me too hard when it comes to how much time I have spent on this game. With my job I have a lot of power over when I work and how much at that particular day, in the end it is the result that pays my bills. 
 

So what is the point of this tirade of explaining my life and personality for other RDR2 players? I want to set a context to what I now will say. I have as said, spent more time than what is healthy playing this game over and over as I truly love Arthur Morgan as the protagonist and I have always been a fan of the old west-era and there is not exactly many games to play in that particular genre. 
 

All this time spent in the game has made me somewhat very sensitive to even small changes, not sensitive in that I hate all changes but rather that I noticed them with ease. And with that said I can say that 1.14 changed so many things in game that R* should really be ashamed for saying “various fixes to improve stability”, when the list of what really was changed could be made very long. 
 

All of the above that people has already spoken about is true, there definitely is a downgrade to how fast objects get the correct textures, object and vegetation now “pops in” like magic and the draw distance has been seriously decreased. There is something about the lighting as every now and then the screen makes a very short like “flash” that is all over the screen for a very short amount of time(tested on different ps4 and ps4-pro with different screens). The controls when using items have changed and it can be argued that it has changed for the better. There is way more dialogue in camp than before and all the special dialogue like “go fetch item” is way easier to trigger than earlier.

The game definitely is not as smooth as before, it actually never was on my regular ps4 or even on the XboxoneX after a few patches but the PRO forced to play at 1080p even on a 4K tv has been almost perfect in being locked 30 despite R* attempting to patch it to become worse. With patch 1.14 R* succeeded and the gameplay feels not exactly laggy, but there is some “micro stutter” or small drops of FPS that seems to happen whenever the game feels for it and not necessarily in the most populated areas like ST Denis where the PRO still is locked at 30.

I have also today experienced that all random encounters that I already have had was somehow reset by the 1.14 patch so I am helping the lady with the horse all over, I helped the snakebite guy again and that is not strange as he is designed to be bitten many times but he reacted as it was the first time I saved him(it was the third) and I also got one more free item from the shop. There are more animals now than before, too many actually but that is debatable. 

 

More or at least improved ambient music, more variety in dialogues and characters have started to talk in missions that they before did not. I just played the robbery that ends up in a burning barn and our four outlaws of course needs to shoot themselves out of there. I experienced brand new lines of dialog from Uncle and Charles and perhaps even Bill. 
 

But despite some improvements, the feeling of the game is like night and day compared to 1.13 and I now have two choices. I do not want to buy a copy of the game on disc for my ps4 systems so as is with the digital copy, I am stuck with this awful and horrible excuse for a patch. My second alternative is to just wait for the next patch and see if enough of us have become pissed as to the effect that R* actually fixes their mistakes made with 1.14 and keeps the new dialogues. So as I do not want to give R* another $€£¥, I will not play until an update has fixed the worst issues in regards to performance. And remember, there are people playing on the Xbox one and the Xbox oneS and their frame rate is horrendous and definitely not playable at all. 
 

Well many words but I just felt I needed to vent as I enter my sabbatical from this game, but I will listen to what those of you that I trust and see when you say that the game has become playable again 🙂 

32 minutes ago, Maidenpriest said:

 xbox one s

As my experience with RDR2 has now been cruelly cut short can you guys recommend a good game for me to play instead ? :(

I am on the PRO and even if the issues there are bad, they are not as a slideshow... yet

But just give R* some time and a few more patches and we will all be playing “slideshow of the hunt for Tahiti”. I will just like you take a sabbatical from the game as it really is not fun to play at the circumstances that R* has introduced and sadly I can not recommend any other game that can replace RDR2. But there are other games in other genres that I like but RDR2 has more or less been my only game to go to since release, I am that addicted. 

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Jutland
15 minutes ago, Ironside said:

But there are other games in other genres that I like but RDR2 has more or less been my only game to go to since release, I am that addicted. 

Cannot answer your question about other games but I hear your pain about the patch and I will say that I understand the appeal of this game at a deep level.

 

I even keep pencil notebooks tracking my progress through RDR2, like Arthur does

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lilathrone

I'm in an almost addicted phase, right now I'm trying every possible method to get the game working again on my og xbox (framerate issue, running with 20ish fps, not barely enjoyable).

 

Hard reset, clearing cache, moving from external drive to main drive, reinstalling for the SECOND time, nothing seems to work so far, though 2 guys told me on reddit that they don't have framerate issues on the same type of console but many people did (including ppl on this thread), so I don't even know anymore....

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Darealbandicoot
7 minutes ago, lilathrone said:

I'm in an almost addicted phase, right now I'm trying every possible method to get the game working again on my og xbox (framerate issue, running with 20ish fps, not barely enjoyable).

 

Hard reset, clearing cache, moving from external drive to main drive, reinstalling for the SECOND time, nothing seems to work so far, though 2 guys told me on reddit that they don't have framerate issues on the same type of console but many people did (including ppl on this thread), so I don't even know anymore....

Only solution is to wait for a patch to miraculously fix the game instead of breaking it more, OR..... Install the game without any patches and start all over again 

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UpTheDowngrade

Texture streaming is messed up on PC, high texture settings, too. It feels like straight up incompetence by this point.

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lilathrone
11 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Only solution is to wait for a patch to miraculously fix the game instead of breaking it more, OR..... Install the game without any patches and start all over again 

Unfortunately I have the digital version, so I won't be able to install the game without the patches so if my second reinstall doesn't work either then I'm just gonna drop the game until Rockstar fixes it that might be never.

My other option would be to upgrade to Xbox One X, but I don't wanna do that from just one year away from the next generation.

 

Fortunately Fallen Order comes out next week which might keep me occupied for a few weeks and there are other games such as Witcher 3 which I am planning to do a new playthrough that can take another few months. Let's hope RDR2 will be "fixed" by then though I am way beyond sad to drop the game but I seem to have no other choice.

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Ironside
14 minutes ago, lilathrone said:

Unfortunately I have the digital version, so I won't be able to install the game without the patches so if my second reinstall doesn't work either then I'm just gonna drop the game until Rockstar fixes it that might be never.

My other option would be to upgrade to Xbox One X, but I don't wanna do that from just one year away from the next generation.

 

Fortunately Fallen Order comes out next week which might keep me occupied for a few weeks and there are other games such as Witcher 3 which I am planning to do a new playthrough that can take another few months. Let's hope RDR2 will be "fixed" by then though I am way beyond sad to drop the game but I seem to have no other choice.

Trust me on this, reinstalling the game will make little to none difference. This is all on R* and how they have decided to patch this game down through the floor. 

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Darealbandicoot

Throwing dynamite and molotovs around crashes the game now. 

 

LMFAO 

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Ironside
2 hours ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Throwing dynamite and molotovs around crashes the game now. 

 

LMFAO 

The game is indeed in a sad state. I actually cannot understand how R* managed to really destroy their own game with one patch!? Yes there where bad patches before but wow, 1.14 is really a game-killer. 

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Tha-Jamz

So glad i didnt take the 1.14 update, even more happy i got the RDR2 on disk from a friend who is done with the game so i can go back to 1.00

Online is still a sh*tfest, defensive mode is not enough to kill all the griefers, now they just throw dynamite and shoot dynamite arrows at ya to scare away all the wildlife when you try to hunt in peace.

Still no private sessions so i wont touch RDR2 1.14 or Online anymore.

 

And in the future i will never pre-order again, hell i will only buy my games 2nd hand on disk from now on.

I will only support game studios that actually listen and care for there customers/players.

We all need to vote with our wallet to really hurt them and stop the greed, also to stop being so gullible and swallow all the lies.

 

same goes for EA and Activision etc

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Darealbandicoot

Arthur spitting blood out of his hair 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dudu RDRII

Updated my original post with video proof, hopefully today I can listen to you guys better, because I've been very busy this week. I suggest we all make a big list with every single downgraded thing needing a fix in Red Dead Redemption 2, graphics, FPS, missfunctional menus and so on... So it can hopefully become the masterpiece it once was again, after that we send the list to Rockstar Support or whatever you think that can help us requesting the required fixes. I am a simple brazilian feller, so please, excuse my english.

 

Known downgrades, bugs, glitches and more in the current Patch 1.14 across all consoles (XB1, XB1S, XB1X, PS4, PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro):

1. Huge frame rate drops (Apparently affects more Xbox One Fat, S and X than PlayStation 4 users).

2. Vegetation disappearing while zooming in with binocular, portable camera, weapons equipped with scopes and also while using Cinematic Camera.

3. Texture glitches in various hanging cloths across the world.

4. Broken menus.

5. New Third Person View Field of View slider makes no difference at all.

6. Reports of playable characters heads not turning in the direction you are looking at.

7. While inserting Cheat Codes "******" appears not allowing the players to properly see what they are typing anymore.

8. Game giving tutorials and notifications about unlocks all over again.

9. Fires and explosions causing HUGE frame rate drops.

10. Player and Horse Items menus requiring to hold the analog stick longer after releasing LB/L1 to use something, which can be annoying sometimes.

11. Floating dead carcasses falling to the ground upon getting close to them.

12. Huge draw distance downgrades, cutting short characters and animals level of detailment quality at distance, sometimes displayed as ugly pixels or even enormous monster-sized and low rendered characters and animals.

13. Bugs in dialogues.

14. Lancaster Repeater "jamming" issues during main missions and possibly outside as well.

15. Popping in and out issues with objects and vegetation.

16. Arthur Morgan coughing blood out of his hair during cutscenes in Chapters 5 and 6.

17. Lightings and shadows issues (Very noticeable during Pouring Forth Oil IV when the train approaches Arthur on top of the Oil Wagon).

18. Various missions becoming almost unplayable because of frame rate issues.

19. Throwing enough fire bottles and dynamites can cause the game to CRASH!!!

 

Feel free to copy and paste this list anywhere and MOST IMPORTANTLY add the issues you discover to it. New things such as new sunrise and sunset sky colors (yes, that's actually a thing), new ambient soundtracks and things that don't make the game worse don't need to be added to the list, but feel free to let us know about your discoveries anyway so we can look for them on our next playthroughs.

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Red Hardbro

How quick would we get a patch to fix this stuff. And will they wait to fix it because seems like some game breaking stuff!

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Dudu RDRII
12 minutes ago, Red Hardbro said:

How quick would we get a patch to fix this stuff. And will they wait to fix it because seems like some game breaking stuff!

I have absolutely no clue to be honest, december maybe... They really are game breaking issues, I'm currently at Chapter 2 during my third 100% playthrough and some main missions are nearly unplayable due to bad FPS, just imagine the mission The Fine Joys of Tobacco... I imagine it's a slideshow right now.

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Johnnyb17

Just updated to 1.14 now gonna see what all the fuss is about :p lol really over it by now. Kinda stop caring after they initially downgraded so unless they return the graphics to 1.0 then I’m just gonna enjoy the sh*t show i guess

Well at least they included something from 1.0... that ugly solid black index is used on the map. I wonder why they’d go back to that

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Ironside
22 minutes ago, Johnnyb17 said:

Just updated to 1.14 now gonna see what all the fuss is about :p lol really over it by now. Kinda stop caring after they initially downgraded so unless they return the graphics to 1.0 then I’m just gonna enjoy the sh*t show i guess

Well at least they included something from 1.0... that ugly solid black index is used on the map. I wonder why they’d go back to that

I am almost with you, I think my mental health would be better if I just gave up on this game. Unfortunately it is one of my absolute favorite game of all times, not in the state it is now of course but more as it once was. I tried to “enjoy” the game for maybe 30 minutes today and as someone guessed, “the fine joys of tobacco” is really horrible to play at the moment. 

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Johnnyb17

On a positive note... animal spawns are back...with a vengeance 

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TheJesus1996

Don't forget random events reset

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Dudu RDRII
11 minutes ago, Johnnyb17 said:

On a positive note... animal spawns are back...with a vengeance 

Going to check it out.

 

8 minutes ago, JC_HUMBLE said:

Don't forget random events reset

That's not a bad thing actually, after you complete most of them the world feels kinda empty while you are travelling.

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Ironside
18 minutes ago, Johnnyb17 said:

On a positive note... animal spawns are back...with a vengeance 

 

16 minutes ago, JC_HUMBLE said:

Don't forget random events reset

Yup, I mentioned these earlier. I have been given three free items from the shop in Rhodes by the snakebite-feller. There are animals everywhere, I cannot travel even a few yards at night in the Cumberland forest without wolves attack me ”en masse”. 
 

So even if I personally would like to keep the animals and the repetition of the “random events”, I think this just proves how sloppy R* was when letting this patch go live. 

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Red Hardbro

I’m really started to give up all I want is Director mode and Rockstar is so f ucking quiet. It wouldn’t be so bad if they talked to the damn consumers and told us what’s happening what’s so hard about that. But judging from what I heard about developers laughing at people asking for John’s original hair in one of their live-streams I can see what type of pricks we are delaying with. I really hope someone knocks Rockstar off their high horse they so deserve it.

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TheJesus1996

A soul for a soul new content for a broken experience.

That's the way it is...

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Dudu RDRII
29 minutes ago, Red Hardbro said:

I’m really started to give up all I want is Director mode and Rockstar is so f ucking quiet. It wouldn’t be so bad if they talked to the damn consumers and told us what’s happening what’s so hard about that. But judging from what I heard about developers laughing at people asking for John’s original hair in one of their live-streams I can see what type of pricks we are delaying with. I really hope someone knocks Rockstar off their high horse they so deserve it.

PC players are giving them a very well deserved hard time this week and so should us.

 

By the way, sunrises and sunsets are more beautiful right now and last longer too, the only positive thing about this crappy Patch 1.14.

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Darealbandicoot
7 hours ago, Red Hardbro said:

How quick would we get a patch to fix this stuff. And will they wait to fix it because seems like some game breaking stuff!

The game is perfect in their eyes. Nothing is broken to them. Unless websites pick this up like the ambiant occlusion, it's never going to be fixed unfortunately. 

 

 

 

FPS in action 

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Red Hardbro
13 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

The game is perfect in their eyes. Nothing is broken to them. Unless websites pick this up like the ambiant occlusion, it's never going to be fixed unfortunately. 

 

 

 

FPS in action 

That’s pathetic it really is and their pc launch is also f Ickes up from what I see. So they have had a terrible week and it’s just getting worse God! I just wish they would fix this and give console players the new things of got.

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Darealbandicoot
13 minutes ago, Red Hardbro said:

That’s pathetic it really is and their pc launch is also f Ickes up from what I see. So they have had a terrible week and it’s just getting worse God! I just wish they would fix this and give console players the new things of got.

Next month with the steam release they'll unlock the content for console. It was included with this update but locked. 

 

Hell, we've been waiting for the Epilogue to finally be fixed for example and a year later it went from glitchy and ignored to a broken flaming pile of sh*t that just keeps getting worse. 

 

 

As long as Red Dead Online isn't affected or big gaming websites are calling them out, they won't do anything about their stupid downgrades and design choices. 

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Red Hardbro
8 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Next month with the steam release they'll unlock the content for console. It was included with this update but locked. 

 

Hell, we've been waiting for the Epilogue to finally be fixed for example and a year later it went from glitchy and ignored to a broken flaming pile of sh*t that just keeps getting worse. 

 

 

As long as Red Dead Online isn't affected or big gaming websites are calling them out, they won't do anything about their stupid downgrades and design choices. 

Good to know we get the exclusive pc content also. Do you know if Director mode is coming this year or anytime soon?

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Darealbandicoot
4 minutes ago, Red Hardbro said:

Good to know we get the exclusive pc content also. Do you know if Director mode is coming this year or anytime soon?

I think Funmw2 said something about December 

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Johnnyb17

Realistically is there a chance they could revert back to 1.0’s graphics but keep all the game mechanic improvements or is that wishful thinking? Was 1.0 just too tough to run with the inclusion of multiplayer? 

 

My xbox one x never had a problem with it though...

 

i wonder do any Rockstar employees visit this website?

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CH14R1

I've noticed the increase in animals spawn too, a little too much in my opinion, it was the first time I saw a pack with more than 10 antilope near hanging dog ranch. But no random encounters reset for me.

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