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Dudu RDRII

MAJOR downgrades as of Patch 1.19!!! (Reports)

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On 11/15/2019 at 2:38 AM, Darealbandicoot said:

You can install the digital bonuses in 1.00 though. The scout jackets look perfectly fine for me, Are you on Xbox by chance? They have a chance to glitch out on Xbox for whatever reason 

I think so. It only happens if you skip a checkpoint in the Valentine mission with the girls in chapter 2

It happens if you retry the checkpoint too. Best just to beat it in one go, to not get the bug.

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Maidenpriest

This is the version I bought

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KBRVJQW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I am still struggling on the 1.14 patch version at 96%, that bloody Legendary Panther is proving near impossible to get, but can anyone confirm that this is an ok pre-patched version to play through with a 2nd playthrough when I have finished and if I can finish the 1.14 patch version !

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Darealbandicoot
16 hours ago, UpTheDowngrade said:

 

It happens if you retry the checkpoint too. Best just to beat it in one go, to not get the bug.

Ah that's what I meant lol. 

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MareckiRDR

As the situation looks on Xbox one x there are also such problems with frames after the patch. I plan to buy One X and I'm worried that it's the same as on the base Xbox

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Darealbandicoot
18 hours ago, Red Hardbro said:

No patch for consoles this week!!

Of course not. Red Dead Online isn't crashing on console at least not to a large extent so they can't be assed. 

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18 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Of course not. Red Dead Online isn't crashing on console at least not to a large extent so they can't be assed. 

So will still be playing 1.00 then. Will not patch until I know that story mode is ok again both in regards to fps and no trees disappearing and a whole bunch of other game breaking bugs like the new fire visuals etc. 

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UpTheDowngrade

^New fire visuals? I haven't played console version since May, so I hadn't heard of, or seen this?

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2 hours ago, Ironside said:

So will still be playing 1.00 then. Will not patch until I know that story mode is ok again both in regards to fps and no trees disappearing and a whole bunch of other game breaking bugs like the new fire visuals etc. 

Why patch at all? Your Arthur wont be able to get the Whittmore or LOTE Outfits, Police belt, Rose Grey Arabian, Dapple Pinto FT or Dark Bay Turk etc etc. He will be forced to wear a ridiculous looking off-hand holster and he certainly wont be going to New Austin or Guarma any time soon. He wont be able to get all of the Trinkets, Otis Millers revolver, The Jawbone Knife.. everything else in NA. John won't be able to get his gunbelt or normal-sized gloves.

 

I just cruised to Guarma on my main horse last night, took about an hour to get there at full tit. It's excellent. He can explore the whole island without the invisible sniper and go back at the click of an autosave. The same glitch allows you to explore all of the massive detailed areas around the Glacier, Tempest Rim, North Annesburg etc. Those areas are not just copy-pasted basic terrain, they look like uniquely designed and detailed areas that were supposed to go into the game.

 

The only things that sucks on 1.00 is the itemized weapon wheel bug and that you cannot feed your horse while sprinting or click L3 to regain stamina. To me those are not realistic anyways, just use a horse stimulant with the truckloads of money the game gives you anyway. I have $50,000 stashed away behind the pig farm painting that I can collect at any time with either John or Arthur. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Ripstart01 said:

Why patch at all? Your Arthur wont be able to get the Whittmore or LOTE Outfits, Police belt, Rose Grey Arabian, Dapple Pinto FT or Dark Bay Turk etc etc. He will be forced to wear a ridiculous looking off-hand holster and he certainly wont be going to New Austin or Guarma any time soon. He wont be able to get all of the Trinkets, Otis Millers revolver, The Jawbone Knife.. everything else in NA. John won't be able to get his gunbelt or normal-sized gloves.

 

I just cruised to Guarma on my main horse last night, took about an hour to get there at full tit. It's excellent. He can explore the whole island without the invisible sniper and go back at the click of an autosave. The same glitch allows you to explore all of the massive detailed areas around the Glacier, Tempest Rim, North Annesburg etc. Those areas are not just copy-pasted basic terrain, they look like uniquely designed and detailed areas that were supposed to go into the game.

 

The only things that sucks on 1.00 is the itemized weapon wheel bug and that you cannot feed your horse while sprinting or click L3 to regain stamina. To me those are not realistic anyways, just use a horse stimulant with the truckloads of money the game gives you anyway. I have $50,000 stashed away behind the pig farm painting that I can collect at any time with either John or Arthur. 

 

All of this yes!!! I agree the only thing that could make me update would be Director Mode nothing is as big as that right now to me until then 1.00 is fine!

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8 minutes ago, Red Hardbro said:

All of this yes!!! I agree the only thing that could make me update would be Director Mode nothing is as big as that right now to me until then 1.00 is fine!

Director Mode, new outfits and gameplay with the m1899 would make things interesting. It would still be a trade off to patch for those, or we would have a disc and own two consoles.. but that seems a little extreme. 

 

I wish they would simply allow us to choose which patch we wanted to play on and remove the blocks they put on all the glitches. I can understand if they wanted to reserve NA access for John to give him relevance to make the Epilogues last longer, but then at least model his character properly. Even with the glitch you still had to replay a reasonably long a sh*tty mission each time you loaded the game (unless you just leave your console on forever). The trinkets don't actually add any realistic differences either, your character will be incredibly overpowered even by Chapter 2. Annoyingly the Pronghorn trinket was reserved to NA and it would have been very handy back in Chapter 2 and 3. I love clipping on rare birds to my horse knowing they will always be 3 star. I still have some parrots on the horse from Guarma, it amuses me to stroll around Valentine knowing they would have never seen something like that.

 

Patching the horse glitches was also annoying, again the player doesn't HAVE to use them, and the horses are worth bugger all if you try to sell them, it's not like the economy system in story mode makes sense anyways. Arthur can normally buy Arabians, MFT and Turkomans anyway. Nothing beats that Amber FT, it might look a little boring but with 10/10 top speed, insane stamina and plenty of courage it ticks all the boxes for your daily driver.

 

These dickheads should just do it properly:

 

1. Don't take away glitches which are entirely optional and just about fun.

2. Don't downgrade the game in order to prop up sales for your inferior product or double-dip offering.

3. Allow players to play the version of the game they purchased without penalizing them.

4. Add new content without forcing a trade-off.

5. Listen to what players are asking for - eg fix John's fair and allow us to remove the f*cking off-hand holster. So easy, it would have taken the same amount of time or more to block the glitches.

 

 

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Darealbandicoot
2 minutes ago, Ripstart01 said:

Director Mode, new outfits and gameplay with the m1899 would make things interesting. It would still be a trade off to patch for those, or we would have a disc and own two consoles.. but that seems a little extreme. 

 

I wish they would simply allow us to choose which patch we wanted to play on and remove the blocks they put on all the glitches. I can understand if they wanted to reserve NA access for John to give him relevance to make the Epilogues last longer, but then at least model his character properly. Even with the glitch you still had to replay a reasonably long a sh*tty mission each time you loaded the game (unless you just leave your console on forever). The trinkets don't actually add any realistic differences either, your character will be incredibly overpowered even by Chapter 2. Annoyingly the Pronghorn trinket was reserved to NA and it would have been very handy back in Chapter 2 and 3. I love clipping on rare birds to my horse knowing they will always be 3 star. I still have some parrots on the horse from Guarma, it amuses me to stroll around Valentine knowing they would have never seen something like that.

 

Patching the horse glitches was also annoying, again the player doesn't HAVE to use them, and the horses are worth bugger all if you try to sell them, it's not like the economy system in story mode makes sense anyways. Arthur can normally buy Arabians, MFT and Turkomans anyway. Nothing beats that Amber FT, it might look a little boring but with 10/10 top speed, insane stamina and plenty of courage it ticks all the boxes for your daily driver.

 

These dickheads should just do it properly:

 

1. Don't take away glitches which are entirely optional and just about fun.

2. Don't downgrade the game in order to prop up sales for your inferior product or double-dip offering.

3. Allow players to play the version of the game they purchased without penalizing them.

4. Add new content without forcing a trade-off.

5. Listen to what players are asking for - eg fix John's fair and allow us to remove the f*cking off-hand holster. So easy, it would have taken the same amount of time or more to block the glitches.

 

 

Or... 

 

6. Only focus on milking Red Dead Online and break story mode more and more while "fixing" the fun glitches and add requested things like the off hand holster toggle or John's NPC clothes EXCLUSIVELY to Red Dead Online 

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Just now, Darealbandicoot said:

Or... 

 

6. Only focus on milking Red Dead Online and break story mode more and more while "fixing" the fun glitches and add requested things like the off hand holster toggle or John's NPC clothes EXCLUSIVELY to Red Dead Online 

Haha exactly!

 

And if you want to play the game you exchanged money for, you are banished to realms of offline. Only welcomed back if you download an enormous file which will make your game much much worse.

 

I'm done with these grubs, if they don't turn this all around (of course they wont) I will only buy a second-hand disc next time.

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14 minutes ago, Ripstart01 said:

Haha exactly!

 

And if you want to play the game you exchanged money for, you are banished to realms of offline. Only welcomed back if you download an enormous file which will make your game much much worse.

 

I'm done with these grubs, if they don't turn this all around (of course they wont) I will only buy a second-hand disc next time.

Don't forget their fans INSISTing that no such downgrades ever happened and that the current patch is better than ever 

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2 minutes ago, Darealbandicoot said:

Don't forget their fans INSISTing that no such downgrades ever happened and that the current patch is better than ever 

Same fans as the ones who are buying shark cards and gold. BOOM headshot, "haha i wrecked this guys mission 3 times in a row!" "haha i f*cked up that guys big wagon of perfect carcasses or whatever!"

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Red Hardbro

I have my eyes on the steam announcement release date because once the pc guys gets a date I’m sure the Director Mode will come with it and so begins the countdown for consoles!! I hate Rockstar so much I will never buy another game from them I promise it just can’t co-sign the way they treat fans it’s disgusting!

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Ironside

The reason that I wish that 1.14 could be patched to not suck ass and destroy the game, is out of laziness I suppose. As I am borrowing the disc version from a very mercurial friend that one day says he will never play the game again to the other day may say that he wants the discs back immediately, I would prefer to have my digital version playable in the first place. 
 

But I agree that the 1.00 version is the best even though I actually hate that the weapons we find at home robberies are in worn condition. But it is a tradeoff that I so far am ready to do as the frame rate, no disappearing trees, no crash the game fire visuals etc is way preferable to the garbage that is 1.14

 

Still, a man must be able to dream that he one day once more would be able to play story mode on the digital version that I preordered and payed way too much for instead of needing to borrow a disc version. And I refuse to buy a disc version if my friend decides he wants his discs back as I will not give R* any more of my money whatsoever. 

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Maidenpriest
20 hours ago, Maidenpriest said:

This is the version I bought

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KBRVJQW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

I am still struggling on the 1.14 patch version at 96%, that bloody Legendary Panther is proving near impossible to get, but can anyone confirm that this is an ok pre-patched version to play through with a 2nd playthrough when I have finished and if I can finish the 1.14 patch version !

Anyone ?? :(

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lilathrone

If you hope that the fps issue on xbox one will be fixed, don't.

 

I submitted a ticket to Rockstar with videos, reddit forums to provide evidence that there is something wrong with the game of xbox.

 

https://support.rockstargames.com/requests/15493294 (I hope it's visible to you)

 

After 7 days support contacted me with the usual bull****,

 

Do hard reset, reinstall my profile, reinstall my game yadda yadda.

 

The funny thing is that in my ticket I wrote that I already did these so I was hoping I won't get the same copy paste response this way....

 

So Rockstar's point on the matter is that it's a problem with our consoles, not the game. 

 

 

 

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Darealbandicoot
15 hours ago, Red Hardbro said:

I have my eyes on the steam announcement release date because once the pc guys gets a date I’m sure the Director Mode will come with it and so begins the countdown for consoles!! I hate Rockstar so much I will never buy another game from them I promise it just can’t co-sign the way they treat fans it’s disgusting!

December 5th Steam release 

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Escuella

Hello ! discovered another small bug in the 1.14 version of the game.

 

In early game, before raiding the O'Driscoll's camp Dutch and Arthur looking down to the camp direction with binoculars, and that bluish effect is missing from arthur's binocular when he looking through it. I hope can understand what im writing here. :)

 

link for that part: 

 

Here's the bug itself: https://imgur.com/a/t2JpXDI

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MareckiRDR
6 hours ago, lilathrone said:

Jeśli masz nadzieję, że problem z fps na Xbox One zostanie naprawiony, nie rób tego.

 

Przesłałem bilet do Rockstar z filmami, forami reddit, aby udowodnić, że coś jest nie tak z grą na Xbox.

 

https://support.rockstargames.com/requests/15493294  (Mam nadzieję, że to dla ciebie widoczne)

 

Po 7 dniach wsparcie skontaktowało się ze mną ze zwykłym bykiem ****,

 

Wykonaj twardy reset, ponownie zainstaluj mój profil, ponownie zainstaluj moją grę yadda yadda.

 

Zabawne jest to, że w swoim bilecie napisałem, że już to zrobiłem, więc miałem nadzieję, że nie otrzymam w ten sposób tej samej odpowiedzi na wklejanie kopii ...

 

Rockstar ma więc na myśli to, że jest to problem z naszymi konsolami, a nie z grą. 

 

 

 

They treat us like cattle and I have reported problems with the patch myself and I am waiting for the answer. What xone do you play?

2 hours ago, Escuella said:

Cześć ! odkryłem kolejny mały błąd w wersji 1.14 gry.

 

We wczesnej fazie gry, przed najechaniem na holenderski obóz O'Driscolla i Artura, patrząc lornetką w dół, w kierunku obozu, a ten niebieskawy efekt nie pojawia się w lornetce Artura, gdy patrzy przez nią. Mam nadzieję, że zrozumiem, co tu piszę.:)

 

link do tej części: 

 

 

I wonder what else it will broke in the next patches

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UpTheDowngrade
13 hours ago, Ironside said:

Still, a man must be able to dream that he one day once more would be able to play story mode on the digital version that I preordered and payed way too much for instead of needing to borrow a disc version. And I refuse to buy a disc version if my friend decides he wants his discs back as I will not give R* any more of my money whatsoever. 

If he really wants his disc back, Just buy a used copy like I did, to play 1.00. That's not giving R* any more money. Cost me $26, but that was in like March. I'm sure you could find it cheaper now.

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Ripstart01
19 minutes ago, UpTheDowngrade said:

If he really wants his disc back, Just buy a used copy like I did, to play 1.00. That's not giving R* any more money. Cost me $26, but that was in like March. I'm sure you could find it cheaper now.

Everyone who wants the gaming experience they paid for should do this. Yes it sucks that you have to pay another $20 or whatever but it is the only way to guarantee they cant keep ruining your game.

 

Used discs going forward people, used discs!

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TheJesus1996

If I downgrade to 1.00 and then update to the the lates patch would I get my saves back?

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23 minutes ago, JC_HUMBLE said:

If I downgrade to 1.00 and then update to the the lates patch would I get my saves back?

Yeah I think that would upgrade all saves to 1.14 by doing that. 

 

The reason the saves don't work if you reinstall to 1.00 is the saves would still be on 1.14. 1.00 has no idea what that is...

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1 minute ago, Ripstart01 said:

Yeah I think that would upgrade all saves to 1.14 by doing that. 

 

The reason the saves don't work if you reinstall to 1.00 is the saves would still be on 1.14. 1.00 has no idea what that is...

I don't care if I need to start a new game in 1.00, I just don't wanna risk my 1.14 saves with 100% completition If I decide to upgrade one day.

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1 hour ago, UpTheDowngrade said:

If he really wants his disc back, Just buy a used copy like I did, to play 1.00. That's not giving R* any more money. Cost me $26, but that was in like March. I'm sure you could find it cheaper now.

 

1 hour ago, Ripstart01 said:

Everyone who wants the gaming experience they paid for should do this. Yes it sucks that you have to pay another $20 or whatever but it is the only way to guarantee they cant keep ruining your game.

 

Used discs going forward people, used discs!

Yes, this is what I guess I eventually have to do. I am not poor so it is not like 30€ is a big deal but despite that it does indeed suck to buy the same game twice just because of R*s incompetence. But as I like the product that I bought and not the product that I have, I guess it will be inevitable to buy a used copy the day my friend feels he wants to play the game again. One of my bad personality traits is that I do not forget nor forgive easy and that goes both on a personal level but also as a consumer, hence my commitment to not give R* one more SEK (Swedish Krona, the currency of my country).

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12 minutes ago, Ironside said:

 

Yes, this is what I guess I eventually have to do. I am not poor so it is not like 30€ is a big deal but despite that it does indeed suck to buy the same game twice just because of R*s incompetence. But as I like the product that I bought and not the product that I have, I guess it will be inevitable to buy a used copy the day my friend feels he wants to play the game again. One of my bad personality traits is that I do not forget nor forgive easy and that goes both on a personal level but also as a consumer, hence my commitment to not give R* one more SEK (Swedish Krona, the currency of my country).

Yeah, and I think what might make things more interesting is that some discs that came out after April or May sometime this year have the 1.05 patch loaded on them already which patches the Bronte, Horse and Holster glitches!

 

So not only do people have to find a used disc, they have to find an early used disc. What a pain.

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8 hours ago, Ripstart01 said:

Yeah, and I think what might make things more interesting is that some discs that came out after April or May sometime this year have the 1.05 patch loaded on them already which patches the Bronte, Horse and Holster glitches!

 

So not only do people have to find a used disc, they have to find an early used disc. What a pain.

That is exactly what I am trying to determine but no one is answering or seems to know :(

A thought I am having... now bear with me but do you think it is possible that the game has been purposely 'stealthy' sabotaged by disgruntled workers and is not really what the developers intended, there was all that talk of Rockstar not treating their employees very well etc ??

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1 hour ago, Maidenpriest said:

That is exactly what I am trying to determine but no one is answering or seems to know :(

A thought I am having... now bear with me but do you think it is possible that the game has been purposely 'stealthy' sabotaged by disgruntled workers and is not really what the developers intended, there was all that talk of Rockstar not treating their employees very well etc ??

No... Just no. The destruction of story mode is a result of R*s blind focus on the online part. R* do not care what implications or bugs that their patches results in with regards to story mode as long as the online part works well enough to make people buy gold bars. 

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