GTA 6 Speculation & Discussion

[eyman]

1 hour ago, WapitiWarrior1899 said:

Houser brothers have said in interviews that they never watch tv shows or any series and have allways been only in to movies since kids.

So probably not inspired bu narcos show.

Miami Vice must have been one long ass movie.

[DexMacLeod]

1 hour ago, WapitiWarrior1899 said:

If you have open map game setting in multiple decades, it means that they need to redo at least half of the map details for each decade and also different cars etc.

I mean it would be weird if it was in 80s and 2010, but everything would still look like from 80s in 2010s.

Thats a lots of work. 

Yeah, and beyond just the work there's also file sizes to consider. The era changes wouldn't just mean cosmetic differences but they'd essentially have to do a full game's worth of audio for every era. I imagine a modern setting's gonna have a lot of those pedestrian cell phone conversations that wouldn't make nearly as much sense in the '80s.

 

Not to mention all of the radio stations. That could all add up to a huge file size in the end. Though, I'll admit, I'm not up to date on all the compression technology that may or may not exist now.

 

3 minutes ago, eyman said:

Miami Vice must have been one long ass movie.

I think it was something they started after they began working on GTA. It's also not that they don't watch series and only do movies, it's that they try to avoid crime related stories. They claim it's to avoid copying other people's work but that reasoning isn't exactly sound.

 

[OREOBOREALIS]

8 hours ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

thanks to Ash. despite all the "evidence" i don't really believe that GTA 6 is gonna be set in Vice City

 

 

Thats like a dream. Altought i really dont care about chicago/detroit and not really miami either, but id still take miami instead of detroit or chicago.

Miami, vegas and mexico city would be more than just amaizing. If it was in 80s:

 

This in mid-late 80s

 

...and later they cold make gta 7 taking place in entire california in early-mid 90s and connect it to the las vegas map. Maybe have even tijuana in south and connect the map some how to the mexico city too.

 

it could be like gta san andreas and movie training day together. 2 playable characters in california 90s. Another could be gang member in LA, maybe cholo or chola.

..and the second character could be like corrupt cop or under cover cop in san francisco/oakland and their stories some how connect. but i can only dream 

Spoiler

 

 

 

1 hour ago, eyman said:

Miami Vice must have been one long ass movie.

well thats what they have said in multiple interviews

[Eternal Moonshine]

Sony just announced that they will reveal PS5 in the coming months lol. hopefully they're still on schedule for February

 

[SMC TBane]

Is there any new update with the original pastebin leak? 

 

Did it still got everything right so far?

[Americana]

Damn, some people in here talking about Grand Theft Auto VII already.

 

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[eyman]

1 hour ago, WapitiWarrior1899 said:

well thats what they have said in multiple interviews

2 hours ago, DexMacLeod said:

I think it was something they started after they began working on GTA. It's also not that they don't watch series and only do movies, it's that they try to avoid crime related stories. They claim it's to avoid copying other people's work but that reasoning isn't exactly sound.

When I read Interviews from Rockstar Directors recently, I sometimes feel like it just PR talk tbh. There was this interview that I been trying to find, but for the life of me can't find. In the interview one of the Higher ups (I think Rob Nelson or Imran Sarwar) mentioned that RDR2 coding allowed them to make changes at anytime, something that they couldn't do with GTA (which is sort of true). However they gave an example of how they wished to change the traffic system in GTA Online but they couldn't. Which I know for a fact was complete bullsh*t, because ever since the Import/Export DLC they changed the traffic to purposely crash into the player, making the player lose money. It so obvious that im sure everyone who plays GTA Online often has noticed.

I don't think they are completely honest at times in those interviews but that just my opinion. As for not wanting to copy ideas, I thought that is what GTA is all about, taking other people's work an turning it into a parody.

Edited January 7, 2020 by eyman

[Felipeborges388]

27 minutes ago, XxToretto-X said:

Is there any new update with the original pastebin leak? 

 

Did it still got everything right so far?

That pastebin leak is fake

[Eternal Moonshine]

1 minute ago, eyman said:

However they gave an example of how they wished to change the traffic system in GTA Online because it was a mess but they couldn't. Which I know for a fact was complete bullsh*t, because ever since the Import/Export DLC they changed the traffic to purposely crash into the player, making the player lose money. It so obvious that im sure everyone who plays GTA Online often has noticed.

I don't think they are completely honest at times in those interviews but that just my opinion. As for not wanting to copy ideas, I thought that is what GTA is all about, taking other people's work an turning it into a parody.

 they meant GTA V in general, not just Online. i remember reading about this and if i understood  correctly they weren't talking about slightly altering the AI behaviour. even moders can do things like that. they meant actually reworking the traffic system to make it more realistic on PS4/X1/PC but they couldn't because the system was already designed to work on PS3/360 and making any major changes would require too much work it was even possible at all

[eyman]

12 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

 they meant GTA V in general, not just Online. i remember reading about this and if i understood  correctly they weren't talking about slightly altering the AI behaviour. even moders can do things like that. they meant actually reworking the traffic system to make it more realistic on PS4/X1/PC but they couldn't because the system was already designed to work on PS3/360 and making any major changes would require too much work it was even possible at all

It been a while maybe I got it all confused. I thought I was going insane trying to find it because I knew it existed. it funny they wanted a realistic traffic system but instead ended up saying f*ck it lets make them go crazy. Anyway I hope they go the realistic route in regards to GTA VI, driving is what i spend most of my time doing.

Edited January 7, 2020 by eyman

[Felipeborges388]

 

[Zello]

14 minutes ago, Felipeborges388 said:

-snip-

About damn time he comes clean. It's pretty obvious that he knows nothing about what R* is going to do next. I'm tired of people taking whatever he says and taking it seriously and as confirmation for the next game. He's not a R* employee he's a contractor after they wrapped up production on V in 2013 he hasn't had contact with them since.

 

3:18 " He need to shut the f*ck up and follow the train" made me laugh lol

Edited January 7, 2020 by Zello

[Felipeborges388]

3 minutes ago, Zello said:

About damn time he comes clean. It's pretty obvious that he knows nothing about what R* is going to do next. I'm tired of people taking whatever he says and taking it seriously and as confirmation for the next game. He's not a R* employee he's a contractor after they wrapped up production on V in 2013 he hasn't had contact with them since.

 

3:18 " He need to shut the f*ck up and follow the train" made me laugh lol

Even Rockstar employees don`t know WTF is going on, imagine a voice actor.

[Xiled]

1 hour ago, eyman said:

However they gave an example of how they wished to change the traffic system in GTA Online but they couldn't. Which I know for a fact was complete bullsh*t, because ever since the Import/Export DLC they changed the traffic to purposely crash into the player, making the player lose money. It so obvious that im sure everyone who plays GTA Online often has noticed.
 

The ai only 'see' what is in front of them as represented by the green line. The green car is at a direct collision path with the red car, so the red 'car' tries to 'avoid. it. This is how it has been since launch. So I get the idea of them wanting ai to avoid you, but the ai will always turn towards the car its on a direct collision path with. Why wouldn't they turn away from the car? Thats the biggest issue of this system. Want to see it in action? Drive towards oncoming traffic on the highway.  In the previous games, the ai would simply continue or slow down with no problems instead of this turn into you bs. 

 

Now we get to the part about I/E traffic. One is where the ai drivers will slow down / dead stop / turn to hit you in middle of intersection.

Than you have this. WTF happened to cause the ai driver to do this? 

 

 The other is the scared ai driver 'flee mechanic' The ai will get scared by shots fired. The ai in cars who attack you will constantly be shooting there uzi's even if they are not in range of even hitting you. So them shooting even if you can't hear it from far distance will still scare all the traffic in front of you. Which will cause chaos for you driving with traffic going berserk to 'flee' the area. 

Edited January 7, 2020 by Xiled

[DexMacLeod]

1 hour ago, eyman said:

It been a while maybe I got it all confused. I thought I was going insane trying to find it because I knew it existed. it funny they wanted a realistic traffic system but instead ended up saying f*ck it lets make them go crazy. Anyway I hope they go the realistic route in regards to GTA VI, driving is what i spend most of my time doing.

Yeah, it doesn't really make sense that they couldn't go more realistic if they wanted to. That import/export update not only changed the traffic A.I. but it also adjusted the traffic lights so that they change to red damn near every time you get close to one. What other system would they need to be able to tweak in order to do what they wanted?

 

Unless they meant they just wanted a more realistic blend of cars in the traffic and not the same car spawning multiple times in one location. Or to be able to have the newer DLC cars get merged into the general A.I. traffic.

 

Either way, I hope they don't go too realistic with traffic patterns. I really enjoyed driving around in GTA, but I think trying to swerve in and out of realistic highway traffic would dampen that fun pretty fast.

[Xiled]

16 minutes ago, DexMacLeod said:

Unless they meant they just wanted a more realistic blend of cars in the traffic and not the same car spawning multiple times in one location. Or to be able to have the newer DLC cars get merged into the general A.I. traffic.

 

Well gta sa and gta iv for instance had a bigger variety of different cars spawning at same time in any area. Cars like the dukes and stallion now spawn if you own one but wouldn't count as dlc vehicles. I wish they would add at least the cheap dlc cars in traffic and you cant store most cars that roam around anyway. 

Edited January 7, 2020 by Xiled

[CarltonDanks69]

43 minutes ago, Xiled said:

The ai only 'see' what is in front of them as represented by the green line. The green car is at a direct collision path with the red car, so the red 'car' tries to 'avoid. it. This is how it has been since launch. So I get the idea of them wanting ai to avoid you, but the ai will always turn towards the car its on a direct collision path with. Why wouldn't they turn away from the car? Thats the biggest issue of this system. Want to see it in action? Drive towards oncoming traffic on the highway.  In the previous games, the ai would simply continue or slow down with no problems instead of this turn into you bs. 

 

Now we get to the part about I/E traffic. One is where the ai drivers will slow down / dead stop / turn to hit you in middle of intersection.

Than you have this. WTF happened to cause the ai driver to do this? 

 

 The other is the scared ai driver 'flee mechanic' The ai will get scared by shots fired. The ai in cars who attack you will constantly be shooting there uzi's even if they are not in range of even hitting you. So them shooting even if you can't hear it from far distance will still scare all the traffic in front of you. Which will cause chaos for you driving with traffic going berserk to 'flee' the area. 

i hate how to this day there are ppl out there defending the sh*tty amateur hour ai programming in this game... rdr2s not that much better but atleast its an improvement

[REVENGE777]

6 hours ago, WapitiWarrior1899 said:

Houser brothers have said in interviews that they never watch tv shows or any series and have allways been only in to movies since kids.

So probably not inspired bu narcos show.

I don’t care what they say, that’s a total load of crap. “Not inspired by tv shows” my left one!

[jippa_lippa]

7 hours ago, Ronald Reagan said:

Oh man, people in here want mountains so much... I hope Grand Theft Auto VI will feature mountains every single corner so you would say: "Oh no, why so many mountains!"

 

 

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I don't care about mountains.
I already have RDR2 for that.

[CheesyWalnuts]

2 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

I don’t care what they say, that’s a total load of crap. “Not inspired by tv shows” my left one!

they probably take inspiration from TV shows but don't depend on it, development on GTA 6 likely started right after GTA V's release, not in 2016

[neo92boi]

Quick question in regards to the PS5 and the new leaked DualShock 5. 
 

will the adaptive trigger under our middle fingers be called L4 and R4 respectively? 

[DexMacLeod]

3 hours ago, SonofLosSantos said:

I don’t care what they say, that’s a total load of crap. “Not inspired by tv shows” my left one!

Yeah, even if it is true and the Housers haven't watched anything since they started work on GTA 3 it's pretty obvious other people on the staff do. The hatch from Lost, the Breaking Bad RV, all of the Fast and Furious inspired vehicles just to name a few.

 

They have really stepped back from directly parodying movies and TV in their stories with the HD universe though. 

[C-h-a-r-l-y]

13 hours ago, YNNEL said:

I think Project Americas is real.

 

The story spanning different decades is likely real.

 

Vice City being the or a location.

 

I think those are about the only believable things so far.

Yes. Rockstar changed "MISC AMERICAS SCRIPT STATS" to "MISC SCRIPT STATS", why should they do this? It was a mistake from them. It is most probably GTA 6, because there are infos too, that they used RDR2 as a field test. It makes sense.

[Len Lfc]

11 hours ago, WapitiWarrior1899 said:

Houser brothers have said in interviews that they never watch tv shows or any series and have allways been only in to movies since kids.

So probably not inspired bu narcos show.

People lie all the time, though. It's kinda' difficult, you can only trust what Rockstar say officially. And even then, they can bend the truth in order to make things look better, or to avoid spoilers in interviews, etc. 

[C-h-a-r-l-y]

4 hours ago, jippa_lippa said:

I don't care about mountains.
I already have RDR2 for that.

Mountains are overrated. They are nice to watch, but they are boring with the time. If you play a game for a longer time, it´s important to make a dense and detailed city with lots of tactical fights against the police and gangs. Where you can do all kind of things.

2 minutes ago, Len Lfc said:

People lie all the time, though. It's kinda' difficult, you can only trust what Rockstar say officially. And even then, they can bend the truth in order to make things look better, or to avoid spoilers in interviews, etc. 

It´s even possible that Rockstar leaks fake stuff to distract the community from the real stuff. The "Project Americas Leak" was possible a mistake, so it´s possible they fake some other leaks to focus peoples mind on that.

[Len Lfc]

1 hour ago, neo92boi said:

Quick question in regards to the PS5 and the new leaked DualShock 5. 
 

will the adaptive trigger under our middle fingers be called L4 and R4 respectively? 

The buttons will still have the same names. Why change L2 & R2?

EDIT: For those unaware, the adaptive triggers are the same triggers. They just have new features in them. Not new buttons.

Edited January 7, 2020 by Len Lfc

[C-h-a-r-l-y]

5 hours ago, Xiled said:

The ai only 'see' what is in front of them as represented by the green line. The green car is at a direct collision path with the red car, so the red 'car' tries to 'avoid. it. This is how it has been since launch. So I get the idea of them wanting ai to avoid you, but the ai will always turn towards the car its on a direct collision path with. Why wouldn't they turn away from the car? Thats the biggest issue of this system. Want to see it in action? Drive towards oncoming traffic on the highway.  In the previous games, the ai would simply continue or slow down with no problems instead of this turn into you bs. 

 

Now we get to the part about I/E traffic. One is where the ai drivers will slow down / dead stop / turn to hit you in middle of intersection.

Than you have this. WTF happened to cause the ai driver to do this? 

 

 The other is the scared ai driver 'flee mechanic' The ai will get scared by shots fired. The ai in cars who attack you will constantly be shooting there uzi's even if they are not in range of even hitting you. So them shooting even if you can't hear it from far distance will still scare all the traffic in front of you. Which will cause chaos for you driving with traffic going berserk to 'flee' the area. 

True. Thanks. This is just the biggest BS they´ve made in GTA V. It destroys everything. You can not even drive for a longer time without a crash.

 

I´m sure the AI in GTA 6 will be fine and more realistic.:)

[C-h-a-r-l-y]

https://twitter.com/LazlowTF/status/1213400480577212418

 

That would be a nice minimap.

 

 

[SWEGTA]

On 1/5/2020 at 11:10 PM, Volatollotalov said:

Lol that Swegta tweet, "the fridge in the staff break room."

 

I'm guessing that's next to the single R*North coffee machine where everyone gets their morning drink, and by the door there's that PC in the corridor where they make all their games. 

 

Seriously, is there anything at all to suggest that this guy is for real and not a BS made-up rumor merchant?

 

Rumor merchant. Interesting word choice there.
Hopefully I can get a scoop that will add a bit of credibility in the land of GTAForums and effectively do away with the merchant angle.
Only time will tell.

[FluxAmbulance]

I think that Vice City would be a great setting for GTA VI considering how big the car culture is in GTA V and Online. While California is the first state people think of when it comes to car culture, Florida also has a vibrant car culture. Downtown Miami in particular is an exotic car mecca.