BLOWING UP PEOPLES CARS IS NOT BAD BEHAVIOR

[beloflash]

Im sick of getting bad behavior points when i blow up peoples cars that should not be considered bad behavior unless the car is empty. And Its enough that the buzzard no longer locks on to players vehicles so why give bad behavior for blowing up peoples cars when most of the time its not even clear if its their car or not? annoying and extra AF

[Big Molio]

13 minutes ago, beloflash said:

Im sick of getting bad behavior points when i blow up peoples cars that should not be considered bad behavior unless the car is empty. And Its enough that the buzzard no longer locks on to players vehicles so why give bad behavior for blowing up peoples cars when most of the time its not even clear if its their car or not? annoying and extra AF

Yup, to my mind it's a carry over from the early days when there was nothing to do in Freemode apart from buy a car, customise it and drive around waiting to join a Mission or Deathmatch lobby for example. Now that Freemode seems to be where all the action is, and the fact that you can personalise weaponised vehicles, Bad Sport points for blowing stuff up feels very redundant to the point of game-breaking.

 

It can't be right that defending yourself against Oppressors, Khanjalis, APCs, Insurgents and everything else attracts Bad Sport points. What kind of perverse logic is that?

 

I would happily spend hours playing Oppressor 2 air duels with other Oppressor 2 riders, but after a bit you have to stop because of a) the insurance costs and b) racking up Bad Sport points.

 

I hate the Bad Sport feature more than anything else in this game.

Edited October 14, 2019 by Big Molio

[HamwithCheese]

Y'all use explosives way too much and thats more annoying that what you're complaining about.

[justinlynch3]

This is how it should work.

 

Weaponized Vehicles - Everything goes.   If you are in a weaponized vehicle you are ready for a fight.   Weaponized Vehicles should have no passive mode (R* already added), no bad sport points, and no insurance.    

 

Regular Vehicles - Regular vehicles are just transportation and should allow all the above things that weaponized vehicles don't.    Not everybody who's in free mode wants a fight, some people just want to go around doing their own thing.    So if you want to be a troll, you should be ready to pay for it.

[B7R]

I've always held the belief that bad sport points for destroying a players personal vehicle is ridiculous. There is much more worse things that players should be given bad sport points for in this game compared to one's vehicle getting destroyed. 

 

I've never been fussed on Insurance costs but I see where others are coming from. I think at this stage they need to nerf premiums on weaponized vehicles as well as bad sport points. Nothing worse than defending yourself from an Opressor Griefer and your the bad one for destroying their precious bike.  

 

But that won't happen, nothing bad goes, only the good goes in this game. 

[kcole4001]

1 hour ago, Big Molio said:

Yup, to my mind it's a carry over from the early days when there was nothing to do in Freemode apart from buy a car, customise it and drive around waiting to join a Mission or Deathmatch lobby for example. Now that Freemode seems to be where all the action is, and the fact that you can personalise weaponised vehicles, Bad Sport points for blowing stuff up feels very redundant to the point of game-breaking.

 

It can't be right that defending yourself against Oppressors, Khanjalis, APCs, Insurgents and everything else attracts Bad Sport points. What kind of perverse logic is that?

 

I would happily spend hours playing Oppressor 2 air duels with other Oppressor 2 riders, but after a bit you have to stop because of a) the insurance costs and b) racking up Bad Sport points.

 

I hate the Bad Sport feature more than anything else in this game.

I wonder, perhaps a separate lobby or a separate mode where you can have air battles, tank battles, etc....no fees, no BS points, but have to join via a menu to make it clearly consensual for all parties.

I see people complain a lot about not getting to have air duels any more because of MkIIs everywhere, so something where the vehicle limits are set to a specific group and remains fairly balanced.

[Arrows to Athens]

Bad Sport is stupid as hell. It has no place in this game at all.

[Quinn_flower]

Get bad sport if I'm just driving around and u wanting to be a dick.

 

Sounds like a kid mad he cant go and be a ass to others. 

 

I support passive mode and bad sport if your being a dick.

 

Oh well... Bite me. 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Quinn_flower

[gtafan26]

R* made a step in the right direction by removing passive mode of weaponized vehicles, now its time to take the next step and remove insurance and BS points for blowing up weaponized vehicles, as most of the time, its being done in defense of the person blowing it up.

 

I fully agree with keeping insurance and BS points for none weaponized vehicles.

Edited October 15, 2019 by gtafan26

[Rumblebud]

There's not much to circumvent the self-defense portion other than to simply...not engage in that activity.

 

On the other hand, if you're trigger happy and you know it - running the streets blowing player's sh*t up purely for the sake of being a dick, then yeah, the game will treat you like a dick.

[Standard Deluxe 59]

I don't agree with getting bad sport points or getting slapped with insurance premiums for destroying weaponized vehicles because those vehicles can defend themselves. But blowing up someone cruising around in a regular car with no mounted weapons? Yeah you're just being an ass. 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Standard Deluxe 59
Insurance.

[B7R]

1 hour ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

 But blowing up someone cruising around in a regular car with no mounted weapons? Yeah you're just being an ass. 

To be honest since this is GTA, I don't really know if I can agree.

 

Maybe still pay a premium if you destroy it but there's no bad sport involved. That's how I've always wanted to see it

[hank_wayne]

1 hour ago, B7R said:

To be honest since this is GTA, I don't really know if I can agree.

 

Maybe still pay a premium if you destroy it but there's no bad sport involved. That's how I've always wanted to see it

You do realize not everyone who plays for crappy imbalanced pvp, right? Some play gta online to have fun and mind their own way of play. Blowing up someone's non weaponized car is not gonna start a pvp battle. The person will be mildly inconvenienced by you being a d-bag and just get a replacement then go about their day. So BS points and insurance costs are what you deserve for being a total jerk to ppl. You are the reason passive exists. Cause toxic ppl like you want show cowar...ehem "manly" you are. Great you blew up someone minding themselves. How big of a person do feel. You showed them...by paying for them to get their car back. Real strong you are. Perhaps if pvpers fight people that wanted to fight we'd have peaceful lobbies and not total warzones where no-one trusts each other.

[Standard Deluxe 59]

1 hour ago, B7R said:

To be honest since this is GTA, I don't really know if I can agree.

Well if someone is just repeatedly going after people in regular cars because they're very easy targets, then that someone is just being an ass and they deserve their penalties whatever they may be.

The grey area is when someone kills you and drives away, if you blow his car up are you the ass? No, because he killed you first and tried to run away. 

Someone random drives by that has just been chilling and you send a homing missile up his tailpipe? Yeah that's a jerk move. 

Flying around firing at anything your missile locks onto? You're being an ass.

 

Is it a good system? No, but nobody likes to be an easy target for someone with nothing better to do. 

 

Yeah it's GTA and in most cases it seems anything goes, and if the choice was keep bad sport as is or do away with it, I'd probably pick the latter because I'm tired of getting b.s. points and insurance premiums for shooting down No Skill Required Mobile MKIIs. 

 

1 hour ago, B7R said:

Maybe still pay a premium if you destroy it but there's no bad sport involved. That's how I've always wanted to see it

That's not a terrible suggestion but it certainly won't deter anyone with millions upon millions of dollars from sending missiles into anything that moves. 

[B7R]

35 minutes ago, hank_wayne said:

You do realize not everyone who plays for crappy imbalanced pvp, right?

I'm an adult, you do realise that right? 

 

You also do realise I wouldn't think for a second there that not everyone plays for PVP but in a public session with all kinds of people it's "anything goes" as another poster mentioned. If someone is destroying your non-weaponized vehicle and being a c*nt about it then yes their a c*nt and that's that. these are the people in multiplayer free-roam games. I'm not defending their behaviour or tactics but it's how the game is and what they do and in a game that's about crime and destruction I really don't know what your really expecting. 

 

35 minutes ago, hank_wayne said:

. Blowing up someone's non weaponized car is not gonna start a pvp battle. The person will be mildly inconvenienced by you being a d-bag and just get a replacement then go about their day.

It's a case by case scenario. You can't just outlandishly say that. They may turn around and decide to fight back. I certainly won't be letting someone off the hook for going after my vehicle.  That may the case for you but it isn't for me or others. 

 

35 minutes ago, hank_wayne said:

So BS points and insurance costs are what you deserve for being a total jerk to ppl.

I'm saying keep the premiums to keep Rockstar happy. I'm not saying keep it to make me or others happy. This is Rockstar we're talking about here and if they were to adjust anything with the insurance system, I'd expect payments to stay while bad-sport points are the first to go. 

 

35 minutes ago, hank_wayne said:

Cause toxic ppl like you want show cowar...ehem "manly" you are. Great you blew up someone minding themselves.

And here's where you lose the ball and all accountability. You jump to conclusions without even realising the person I am and resort to saying "I'm toxic" and the "reason" for things in a game about destruction & crime.. If you were to spend time with me or my buddies in GTAOnline you'd see we're pretty much peaceful people until provoked. If someone provokes us we go after them and anyone they were with, I bet your going to come back and say I & my friends are outright dangeriously toxic, more toxic than a tryhard for going after their buddies as well but they knew the risks they were getting into when their friend caused trouble for us. Serves them right. 

 

I've mentioned before I'm a grinder and work on businesses and I get annoyed with toxic players and you just barge right in here without knowing the full story and just call me toxic. Pull your head out of the sand. 

 

35 minutes ago, hank_wayne said:

How big of a person do feel. You showed them...by paying for them to get their car back. Real strong you are

Jeebus, you really are losing the plot

 

 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2019 by B7R

[Happy Hunter]

I just don't like paying for attack vehicles. Say you're on foot, and a tank is coming your way. How is it unsporting to try and blow it up?

 

Old, old issues though. Eventually you just stop dwelling on them. There's worse anyway to be honest. The space cannons and flying bikes are more bothersome than insurance.

[B7R]

19 minutes ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

Well if someone is just repeatedly going after people in regular cars because they're very easy targets, then that someone is just being an ass and they deserve their penalties whatever they may be.

Well I'm going to be honest, thanks for at least being rational unlike the other user whose jumping to conclusions and labelling people all sorts of things without knowing who they really are. 

 

You know what, I can agree with that, even through this is GTA we're talking about. I don't condone behaviour but if their being a c*nt then throw whatever book you can throw at them for all I care. 

 

24 minutes ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

The grey area is when someone kills you and drives away, if you blow his car up are you the ass? No, because he killed you first and tried to run away. 

Had that happen plenty of times, they'll slowly pull up alongside you, beep, honk and then start killing you and take off after the deeds done.  What they don't realise is that I've got a crew of 3-4 others to back me up so they get what they deserve in the end. 

 

25 minutes ago, Standard Deluxe 59 said:

That's not a terrible suggestion but it certainly won't deter anyone with millions upon millions of dollars from sending missiles into anything that moves. 

I just said that to keep Rockstar happy since I know how much insurance premiums can rack up, even for super vehicles. While it's not going to solve anything for a player with billions in the bank at least for a poor player they'll quickly see how much their racking up and perhaps cut their losses or try to be more careful. Who knows if that even leads to an MTX sale in the end if their worried about their cash. 

 

 

[Desky]

It really shouldn't. Destroying cars is basically inconsequential now for both the destroyer and the victim. I think destroying cargo or sales should definitely take its place instead but that sort of behavior is encouraged by R* instead so.....

 

Emphasis on destroying. I never understood why the game promotes destroying other people's sales. Wouldn't the company overseeing the player's business be unhappy with a botched sale? Stealing someone else's cargo should be promoted if R* insists on having some sort of danger involved. 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Desky

[sivispacem]

Pointless thread in "Thread is Pointless" shocker.