Kshksh984 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Both 3D and HD what are your thoughts Copcaller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil empire Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Since he buried a foreman alive in a port-a-potty because the victim allegedly called Kendl a hooker I would say CJ is most evil of the 3D period compared to Claude and Tommy. I never played the HD episodes. Edited November 6, 2022 by Evil empire Lock n' Stock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAJ032304 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Toni C for 3D Trevor P for HD Edited November 28, 2019 by KingAJ032304 GrudgefromSanAndreas, DarthZytsigma69 and Lock n' Stock 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.pain Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) michael with all his lies, acts and “i always thought i was the good guy” stuff. trevor comes as second because he is the least trustable one, which killing wade’s friends also proved. Edited October 14, 2019 by Max.pain Comrade Monke, Kshksh984, Jeansowaty and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Tony Ciprani is probably easily the most evil protagonist in the 3D era. This is the kind of guy to kill somebody who owns a deli, chop him up, and sell THAT person's meat to his own deli, as well as blowing up the tunnel. Probably Trevor for HD. H-G, god speed, NightmanCometh96 and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fat Paulie Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, LCLegend said: Tony Ciprani is probably easily the most evil protagonist in the 3D era. This is the kind of guy to kill somebody who owns a deli, chop him up, and sell THAT person's meat to his own deli, as well as blowing up the tunnel. Probably Trevor for HD. Eh, I'd wager that Tommy Vercetti is the most morally reprehensible protagonist of the 3D Era. He's a violent high-functioning sociopath who was a mass murderer before the game even began. While a lot of people think that Sonny Forelli set Tommy up to become "The Harwood Butcher" thanks to some of his lines in the final mission, the guy brutally killed fifteen people and the only thing that saved Tommy from the death penalty or life without parole is the fact that Sonny called in some favors with the court system. Toni Cipriani is really just a toady for Salvatore Leone. Aside from butchering Giovanni Casa out of anger, he mostly is just a goon following orders. I'd say Tommy for 3D Era and Trevor for HD Era Sunglasses, Super Shizuku, killdrivetheftvehicle and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 CJ. Trying to blend a "human" character with the 3D era archetype just leads to messy and "inconsistent" results. He's the type of person that would guilt you with his sad puppy dog eyes, but slit your throat when you're not looking. An absolute piece of sh*t. Bratva Assassin, Max.pain, Eugene H. Krabs and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Big Fat Paulie said: Toni Cipriani is really just a toady for Salvatore Leone. Aside from butchering Giovanni Casa out of anger, he mostly is just a goon following orders. He still bombs an entire district for 5000 bucks possibly killing hundreds if not thousands , he may be just a goon following orders but thats easily the most reprehensible sh*t I've seen from not just a protagonist but probably any character in GTA. So I'd say Toni is the most evil one by a good margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beato_dim Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Big Fat Paulie said: While a lot of people think that Sonny Forelli set Tommy up to become "The Harwood Butcher" thanks to some of his lines in the final mission, the guy brutally killed fifteen people and the only thing that saved Tommy from the death penalty or life without parole is the fact that Sonny called in some favors with the court system. Well, how do you know he did it 'brutally'? It sounded to me more like he was sent to kill one guy and the others were waiting for him, so of course he had to kill them, didn't he? Lock n' Stock and Sunglasses 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeansowaty Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3D Universe: Toni Cipriani, easily the sickest f*cker out of the bunch HD Universe: Michael De Santa, a hypocritical bitch of a traitor with 0 moral values Sunglasses and Eugene H. Krabs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Big Fat Paulie said: Toni Cipriani is really just a toady for Salvatore Leone. Aside from butchering Giovanni Casa out of anger, he mostly is just a goon following orders. Well, he did more than just kill Casa which makes him much more evil in my eyes. He also probably caused even more casualties with the tunnel thing, I think the stuff he did is actually much worse than what Tommy does prior to Vice City and even during the events of Vice City. Typhus and Lock n' Stock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiCriminnaaL Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3D Era: - Claude - Toni Cipriani - CJ, but only when considering some moments of his inconsistency. HD Era: - Trevor Philips Johnny Klebitz comes as the second in the HD era in my opinion, but he’s still nowhere as evil as Trevor. DarthZytsigma69, Bratva Assassin and JPFL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratva Assassin Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3D era: CJ HD era: Trevor Philips Hands down! DarthZytsigma69, JPFL, iiCriminnaaL and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, iiCriminnaaL 49 said: Johnny Klebitz comes as the second in the HD era in my opinion, but he’s still nowhere as evil as Trevor. This is actually interesting to think about. I guess Trevor and Michael were more in the villainous mold character wise, but in terms of crimes committed I think Niko and Johnny are up there. In fact, and this might be controversial, I think a case can be made for Niko to be possibly the most 'evil' protagonist in the HD era. Not evil in personality , Niko would be one of my first choices in terms of protagonist you would want to hang out with. But mid story onwards it feels like he's killing people left and right and if I'm not mistaken he has the highest kill count. And if you consider events before the story then he was involved in human trafficking+more killing. Still, I wouldn't consider Niko to be evil in the same way Trevor is, but its interesting to think in terms of crimes commited who's actually done the worst sh*t. Either way Michael and Niko are the most interesting protagonists for me possibly because of their villainous streaks combined with their more human side, while Luis despite being the least villainous is the least interesting HD era protagonist for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Trevor. Crazy dude, he probably eats children. Lock n' Stock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleJesus Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ronald Reagan said: Trevor. Crazy dude, he probably eats children. Impossible uncle T loves kids Beato_dim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americana Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Yeah...in a very unconventional manner.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene H. Krabs Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 17 hours ago, JC_HUMBLE said: uncle T loves kids Oh I don't doubt he does... KingAJ032304 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkaSwede Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 CJ for ruining Madd Dogg's career for no reason other than he stopped taking his smart pills and listened to Bliggedy blaggedy blogg Locomotive. And then decided to become his manager out of some pretense guilt over ruining his career. Algonquin Assassin and iiCriminnaaL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUGL4S1 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) While CJ is a pretty close second, I'll go with Toni Cipriani. He just does whatever it takes to get the job done, like blowing up an entire neighbourhood, killing two actors because they didn't want to give an interview, and killing a guy multilating his corpse and delivering his meat back to his store. That's pretty f*cked up (and the best part is, the combined rewards for all this is $7000, so he doesn't even do it for money). As for the HD era, it's obviously Luis. Not only he probably has like 300 children around LC and refuses to be a father, he's probably given STDs to half of the city. That's extremelly awful.. /s Edited October 15, 2019 by DOUGL4S1 DarthZytsigma69, Lock n' Stock and Sunglasses 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, DOUGL4S1 said: As for the HD era, it's obviously Luis. Not only he probably has like 300 children around LC and refuses to be a father, he's probably given STDs to half of the city. That's extremelly awful.. Hmm I haven't seen any evidence that he doesn't use protection. Throughout the game he's always upfront about his intentions with the women he sleeps with, right off the bat he makes it clear he's not interested in a relationship, doesn't lie or lead them on and tries to keep things as uncomplicated as he can. He's a straightforward and logical guy who doesn't like drama. So if anything it seems more likely that he would be sensible about using protection and not causing unnecessary trouble for himself. Edited October 16, 2019 by billiejoearmstrong8 LittleJesus, KingAJ032304, Lock n' Stock and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAJ032304 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, DOUGL4S1 said: While CJ is a pretty close second, I'll go with Toni Cipriani. He just does whatever it takes to get the job done, like blowing up an entire neighbourhood, killing two actors because they didn't want to give an interview, and killing a guy multilating his corpse and delivering his meat back to his store. That's pretty f*cked up (and the best part is, the combined rewards for all this is $7000, so he doesn't even do it for money). As for the HD era, it's obviously Luis. Not only he probably has like 300 children around LC and refuses to be a father, he's probably given STDs to half of the city. That's extremelly awful.. /s Yo Luis the homie tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copcaller Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3D universe would be Toni HD- Trevor god speed, iiCriminnaaL and NightmanCometh96 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtaman_92 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) On 10/14/2019 at 1:45 AM, SonOfLiberty said: CJ. Trying to blend a "human" character with the 3D era archetype just leads to messy and "inconsistent" results. He's the type of person that would guilt you with his sad puppy dog eyes, but slit your throat when you're not looking. An absolute piece of sh*t. Seriously, what is with you and your hatred for CJ? Edited October 21, 2019 by Gtaman_92 Super Shizuku, god speed, Max.pain and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty-TG Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Toni Cipriani and Trevor Philips NightmanCometh96, god speed, Copcaller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Gtaman_92 said: Seriously, what is with you and your hatred for CJ? I don't hate Trevor anymore and all my focus is on CJ? But joking aside he's just a video game character. I can say whatever I want about him and I've never liked CJ in the 12 years I've been on the forum. That's just one of my quirky qualities that make me me. KingAJ032304 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leone_Son Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) All of GTA protagonists are evil because they kill a lot of people. But forget this. I would say Claude is the most evil. Every protagonist since GTA VC has some kind of loyalty, love and respect for their family and friends. But Claude seems like he can kill everybody he met without hesitation. Did he ever have heart? What was he thinking when he was working for Asuka after he killed her brother? Edited October 27, 2019 by Leone_Son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copcaller Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Leone_Son said: All of protagonists are evil because they kill a lot of people. But forget this. I would say Claude is the most evil. Every protagonist since GTA VC has some kind of loyalty, love and respect for their family and friends. But Claude seems like he can kill everybody he met without hesitation. Did he ever have heart? What was he thinking when he was working for Asuka after he killed her brother? Well to be fair salvatore and king Courtney betrayed him and Kenji was already blaming him for the Columbians and yardie alliance not being broken Sunglasses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock n' Stock Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Toni blowing up an entire neighbourhood outdoes any heinous act committed by any other protagonist combined, imo. Zello and KingAJ032304 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max.pain Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) On 10/14/2019 at 8:45 AM, SonOfLiberty said: CJ. Trying to blend a "human" character with the 3D era archetype just leads to messy and "inconsistent" results. He's the type of person that would guilt you with his sad puppy dog eyes, but slit your throat when you're not looking. An absolute piece of sh*t. i read this again and lollololo i don’t think cj is so evil, he simply doesn’t care how his business effects to others like most other protagonists Edited November 26, 2019 by Max.pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
