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Spider-Vice

Red Dead Redemption 2 PC Releasing November 5th

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Purposely spoiling the game to PC players will get you banned INSTANTLY.

 

Don't engage into fanboyism, it looks ridiculous saying "console peasants" and "inferior", and similar, and any platform wars will be penalised accordingly.

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Red Dead Rebel
20 minutes ago, Sonicdude said:

Yes. As in, there should be no advantages in terms of hardware just because of a difference in brand. As in, a game shouldn't have the highest setting locked out because of some arbitrary name brand that supports a feature all other brands currently don't (to my knowledge). If I bought a $500+ dollar GPU, I don't wanna find out that I can't turn the game's settings up to their highest, even though it (and the rest of my PC) is plenty powerful enough for all the other settings to be on their highest, just because I simply bought the wrong brand.

I never at any point stated that we all should have low end machines, or that everything should cost the same, or that we should all be playing on low settings. Please stop putting words in my mouth, I don't wanna argue. Especially not on this forum.

Yes there should be advantages based on the hardware. t's not my fault AMD doesn't support raytracing. If you're spending $500+ on a GPU, you most likely have done the research to know what it can and cannot do. If not, that's on you.

 

You're telling me it's better that I don't use my $500+ GPU to its full potential just because someone else's GPU can't do it?!

 

Going by your logic, how are you fine with people spending $500+ on an RTX GPU just to have its main feature unavailable only because AMD doesn't support it?? WTF

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RedDread

here to prove my point even further heres the rtx 2060 super vs the rx 5700 xt. NVIDIA worst current gen card vs AMD's best current gen card.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4049vs4045

 

When it comes down to it your argument basically is that low spec cards shouldn't be unable to use features designed for high end cards. I don't know why you don't understand how absurd this is. If every game nerved its graphics settings to accommodate AMD users games would look alot less pretty.

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Yoona
7 minutes ago, RedDread said:

here to prove my point even further heres the rtx 2060 super vs the rx 5700 xt. NVIDIA worst current gen card vs AMD's best current gen card.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4049vs4045

 

When it comes down to it your argument basically is that low spec cards shouldn't be unable to use features designed for high end cards. I don't know why you don't understand how absurd this is. If every game nerved its graphics settings to accommodate AMD users games would look alot less pretty.

RTX 2060 is the weakest RTX, you are listing RTX 2060 Super instead.

 

Good job Nvidia for making 3 refreshes in the same generation. RTX 2060 Super, RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 Super making it all the more confusing for customers.

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MysteryX2

2060, 2060s, 2070, 2070s, 2080, 2080s, 2080ti, Titan RTX

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RedDread
42 minutes ago, Yoona said:

RTX 2060 is the weakest RTX, you are listing RTX 2060 Super instead.

 

Good job Nvidia for making 3 refreshes in the same generation. RTX 2060 Super, RTX 2070 Super and RTX 2080 Super making it all the more confusing for customers.

Yes the Rtx 2060 is the weakest rtx but we are talking about current gen hardware and the current weakest nvidia card is the Rtx 2060 super. It's not that confusing. 

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Yoona
12 minutes ago, RedDread said:

Yes the Rtx 2060 is the weakest rtx but we are talking about current gen hardware and the current weakest nvidia card is the Rtx 2060 super. It's not that confusing. 

Actually it is, since it's part of the same series, it's not 3060, it's 2060 but Super and that's confusing, since a lot of brands already name their cards with such words as Super Hiper Ultra.

 

Desktop-Screenshot-2019-10-21-09-16-45-58

 

Very confusing if you ask me, they are all part of the same generation on Nvidia website.

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CheesyWalnuts

even if RTX was implemented, it would be badly and sloppily done while performing horribly, RTX is done on games that have been developed with it in mind, besides, RTX cards aren't flushed out yet for R* to put them in, control on the high ray tracing preset struggles to get 60fps at 1440p on a 2080ti, a card that costs 1.5x most computers, it's quite evident RTX just isn't ready yet and it's on some games just to advertise it's existence.

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RedDread
21 minutes ago, Yoona said:

Actually it is, since it's part of the same series, it's not 3060, it's 2060 but Super and that's confusing, since a lot of brands already name their cards with such words as Super Hiper Ultra.

 

Desktop-Screenshot-2019-10-21-09-16-45-58

 

Very confusing if you ask me, they are all part of the same generation on Nvidia website.

Oh I see. Your right it can be pretty confusing unless you build your own PC

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Blendi-

im thinking we might get some new screens on 23nd or even one day before preoders will start

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(Vip)Met

RDR2 for PC disappeared from the ACB. 1

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RedDread
1 minute ago, (Vip)Met said:

RDR2 for PC disappeared from the ACB. 1

Oh no are they gonna UNannounce it

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RedIndianRobin

 

Meanwhile some people are planning to boycott RDR 2. Let's see how this turns out because Borderlands 3 boycott was a miserable fail. 😛 

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(Vip)Met

Why boycott the game when they can boycott EGS? Is much easier, you get the game on RL or wait for Steam. It's a win - win.

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CheesyWalnuts
4 minutes ago, RedIndianRobin said:

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Meanwhile some people are planning to boycott RDR 2. Let's see how this turns out because Borderlands 3 boycott was a miserable fail. 😛 

why do people care so much about different launchers? a company's goal to make money, so when they're able to put their product on their own launcher and make 95%-100% of money given to them as opposed to making 70% of said money, they're probably gonna choose to make more money, it's just a launcher for gods sake, turn it off on startup and start it when you need to, not everyone cares about having 300 levels on steam with their 7500 TF2 items showing

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_CP_

There's no NVIDIA's ray tracing technique implemented to RDR2.

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(Vip)Met

To be honest, it doesn't need it... the game looks so amazing that you end up not noticing some reflective puddles.

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RogueMango
4 minutes ago, CheesyWalnuts said:

why do people care so much about different launchers? a company's goal to make money, so when they're able to put their product on their own launcher and make 95%-100% of money given to them as opposed to making 70% of said money, they're probably gonna choose to make more money, it's just a launcher for gods sake, turn it off on startup and start it when you need to, not everyone cares about having 300 levels on steam with their 7500 TF2 items showing

Because not everybody is half as rational as that! 
a boycott or RDR2 because it’s launching on EGL before steam is just nonsensical 

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RedDread
13 minutes ago, CheesyWalnuts said:

why do people care so much about different launchers? a company's goal to make money, so when they're able to put their product on their own launcher and make 95%-100% of money given to them as opposed to making 70% of said money, they're probably gonna choose to make more money, it's just a launcher for gods sake, turn it off on startup and start it when you need to, not everyone cares about having 300 levels on steam with their 7500 TF2 items showing

People hate different launchers because everyone hates having 10 different launchers installed on their computer. It just ends up being bloat. That being said though I don't really care tbh I just hate epic because they are shady. 

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Red Dead Rebel

No one will  boycott anything. Those boycott campaigns only work to get YouTube views and then everyone buys the game anyway.

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Sam Lake
32 minutes ago, RedIndianRobin said:

Let's see how this turns out because Borderlands 3 boycott was a miserable fail. 😛

while we dont have any official numbers (only the "it's like 5 times more than borderlands 2" but with no actual numbers to come from)

we got some pretty solid boycotts from past

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CheesyWalnuts
2 minutes ago, George Costanza said:

while we dont have any official numbers (only the "it's like 5 times more than borderlands 2" but with no actual numbers to come from)

we got some pretty solid boycotts from past

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the fact that someone there has the game in their name just makes it that much funnier as he's basically advertising it

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RedDread

Yep that's why I don't bother with boycotts. They never work. The only time I remember anything like that actually working was when everyone bombed GTA 5s reviews on steam because they tryed to shut openiv down. 

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BlackScout
5 hours ago, Sonicdude said:

It means no hardware-specific advantages in terms of graphical capabilities (Meaning both Nvidia and AMD cards will be on the same or at least very similar playing field when it comes to high settings)

Raytracing is not Hardware Specific (if you mean NVIDIA specific).

AMD is currently engineering Raytracing capable GPUs, which on Windows 10/Project Scarlett can make of use of the DXR capabilities of DirectX 12. (and whatever on PS5) It is not exclusive to one or other brand. Just be patient.

 

Also, having said specific options in this scenario "wouldn't" make a difference.

You can still have an improved version of what the Xbox One X version delivers.

DXR would just add a few extra things to make the graphics look better, and as always, it's optional.
 

1 hour ago, _CP_ said:

There's no NVIDIA's ray tracing technique implemented to RDR2.

I bet so, game already has Raymarching.
Water reflections use SSR, Cubemaps and Raymarching to compensate for all flaws.
The cloud and lighting system uses Raymarching along with voxel based illumination.

I bet their Global Illumination system is now very similar to the likes of Remedy's Quantum Break, perhaps a bit better.

Nobody will be left out of anything. Period. (Unless your GPU/CPU sucks.)

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Spider-Vice

In the words of a now-gone forum member, about this "boycott":

 

lol ok.


As always it's just some dude that is angry that muh Steam isn't getting the game day one, when he probably doesn't care about the other launchers he has for all other games he likes to play amirite? Good luck with that Youtuber.

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MrQuiche
1 minute ago, Spider-Vice said:

In the words of a now-gone forum member, about this "boycott":

 

lol ok.

who's the now gone forum member?

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Pentraksil

I see ppl here asking about 1070, 1060, 1660 etc. and whether they can play in 60fps, talking about raytracing and hairworks.......And I am here with my i5 4690k, 8gb of ram and GTX 970 hoping to play in 1080p 30fps on High, Very high 😥 

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Spider-Vice
12 minutes ago, MrQuiche said:

who's the now gone forum member?

Just some dude years ago during RDR2 console pre-release who responded to everything he didn't agree with/found ridiculous with "lol ok". :D 

 

Also, imagining a boycott like this works 100%, this would probably cause Rockstar to not release titles on PC, and then the same kids would cry there's no PC versions of Rockstar games. One would wonder why...

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RedDread
21 minutes ago, BlackScout said:

Raytracing is not Hardware Specific (if you mean NVIDIA specific).

AMD is currently engineering Raytracing capable GPUs, which on Windows 10/Project Scarlett can make of use of the DXR capabilities of DirectX 12. (and whatever on PS5) It is not exclusive to one or other brand. Just be patient.

 

Also, having said specific options in this scenario "wouldn't" make a difference.

You can still have an improved version of what the Xbox One X version delivers.

DXR would just add a few extra things to make the graphics look better, and as always, it's optional.
 

I bet so, game already has Raymarching.
Water reflections use SSR, Cubemaps and Raymarching to compensate for all flaws.
The cloud and lighting system uses Raymarching along with voxel based illumination.

I bet their Global Illumination system is now very similar to the likes of Remedy's Quantum Break, perhaps a bit better.

Nobody will be left out of anything. Period. (Unless your GPU/CPU sucks.)

What exactly is raymarching

3 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

Just some dude years ago during RDR2 console pre-release who responded to everything he didn't agree with/found ridiculous with "lol ok". :D 

 

Also, imagining a boycott like this works 100%, this would probably cause Rockstar to not release titles on PC, and then the same kids would cry there's no PC versions of Rockstar games. One would wonder why...

Wasn't that greenrock, I think I remember him. 

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Spider-Vice
Just now, RedDread said:

What exactly is raymarching

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_ray_casting

 

Basically a baby form of ray tracing using some different techniques for better calculated lighting.

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RedDread

So did the console version have raymarching or is it new to PC

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