Camp issue...

[Foxwolfe]

10 hours ago, fryday said:

but it seems, that since the update much more players are using the camp. before the update there was no need to.

 

this could be a factor for the bug...

Yeah sure plenty of things could be, just remember that correlation does not imply causation. Just because people weren't utilizing the camp as much doesn't mean they didn't have one out, unless it bugged out the game typically tried spawning people with a camp on the map. Either way it's all just conjecture on our part at this point, I think the idea of it being related to the update itself due to the large additions to the camp and what it provides to the game is likely but obviously that's just my opinion.

[Failed Again]

On 10/6/2019 at 4:46 AM, Caffeination said:

I think I have to stress this once again. For anyone who wants to set up camp, use any NPC mission givers that provide you with the following:-

 

• Destroy Supplies

• On The Hunt

• Wagon Retrieval

 

You will be put into a solo session that will either merge with a populated one, or it will indefinitely be a solo one, meaning you can do distant deliveries in total mundane safety. 

 

I recommend starting with Rhodes and checking with Alden for a Wagon Retrieval. If he’s giving you a caravan escort, leave him and check with Anthony Foreman just outside of town for a Destroy Supply. If that doesn’t work, or you’re in New Austin, travel to MacFarlane Ranch or Tumbleweed, and check Bonnie or Sheriff Freeman for a wagon retrieval or On The Hunt. 

 

This issue will NOT be fixed until the next update, and that will not arrive any time soon.

this worked for me today, after at least 10 fails

worked 1st try

BUT

this is my experience based on one try

fail fail etc. etc. etc.

Remember this post.

Bonnie is near so

Bonnie gives me On the hunt

 

I accept, go to my 'Player menu= (select camp) Nearby location selected

Presto Camp in same region

Get on my Horse to start mission= look on map don't see camp/

hunt bear. kill bear, carry bear hide to Bonnie. I Have a 3 star cougar on horse and other kills and pelts

drop bear hide on yellow spot. check map Camp is visible 

go to camp- get drunk. take a nap

 

PS:

woke up logged in 

Camp still there

 

I hope this isn't a dream

Edited October 8, 2019 by Failed Again

[netnow66]

9 hours ago, Ryan5252 said:

Best of luck with that. I submitted a ticket as well. They we're worse than useless... 

 

 

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Thank you for contacting Rockstar Support.

We understand your concern regarding the Camp not being set up in the desired location.

We would request you to try these steps as a workaround.


1. Press D-pad left
2. Select your Posse
3. Click Reform Posse
4. Go to Settings under Posse menu
5. Select Camp and choose Camp Size
6. Select Camp Location
7. Your camp will now be pitched in the location

This is how the Camp works:

1. Camp will relocate if you move to a new region as it attempts to follow the player.
2. Camp will relocate if you log in to a new session since the game attempts to place your camp in the region but away from other player camps.
3. The camp will be packed up if no space can be found in the region if you go to a new region the camp will move and find a suitable space.

Please let us know if that solved your issue. Looking forward to your response.

 

No this does not work. The camp menu just keeps flashing when I select a location. 

Even if I try other regions it will not pitch a camp

 

 

Thank you for your response.

We are sorry to hear that the below steps did not resolve the issue.

We would like to inform you that while pitching a camp, as you are still unable to do it we recommend you to try changing session as the location might be occupied where you are trying to pitch the camp.

 
 

 

 

And my response from Rockstar...

 

XXXX (Rockstar Support)

Oct 7, 22:38 EDT

Hello XXXXXXX,

Thank you for contacting Rockstar Support.

We understand that you are experiencing issues with the behaviour of your camp in Red Dead Online. We would like to inform you that the frequency of the camp being moved and player ability to successfully place the camp is currently under review, and will be addressed in a future patch.

In the meantime, here is a workaround that has helped some players:

• Switch Session and pitch camp from the Kit section in the weapon wheel after forming a temporary Posse.

• Pitch Camp once spawned into the game and change the location of the camp to a different location.

We also hope the following information will be helpful to you:

• Camp cannot overlap with other camps

• Camp will always randomize every time you get into a new session from previous

• Camp will relocate if you move to a new region as it attempts to follow the player

• Camp will relocate if you log into a new session, since the game attempts to place your camp in the region but away from other player camps

• Camp will be packed up if no space can be found in the region, if you go to a new region the camp will move and find a suitable space

We appreciate your patience and understanding as we work to improve the game. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Best regards,

XXXX
Rockstar Support

[AStiffBreeze]

21 hours ago, Foxwolfe said:

I never had much issue with my camp until this update, either way hopefully it gets fixed sooner rather than later given how much they're pushing us to utilize them.

For me the camp was behaving roughly the exact same way since at least the previous large DLC update. I didn’t care though, because there was rarely cause to really use your camp. It got to be such a hassle that I started just using campfires in the world for the daily challenges, because my camp was too unreliable. 

 

Now that they’ve built a major gameplay aspect around it without fixing it, it’s a major problem. 

[Leftover Pizza]

44 minutes ago, AStiffBreeze said:

For me the camp was behaving roughly the exact same way since at least the previous large DLC update. I didn’t care though, because there was rarely cause to really use your camp. It got to be such a hassle that I started just using campfires in the world for the daily challenges, because my camp was too unreliable. 

 

Now that they’ve built a major gameplay aspect around it without fixing it, it’s a major problem. 

 

camp behaviour was somewhat similar as before the update, though it took a lot less time to respawn one when it was packed up. Never, before the update, did I have to spend an hour and a half to respawn my camp. Never had I switch that many sessions to see that blue icon appearing on the map. It never despawned after doing a mission either.

 

yes, it got packed up before the FP update regularly, but that was about it. 

[hotrats773]

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Camp will relocate if you move to a new region as it attempts to follow the player

Awesome game mechanic. Just like in GTA when my apartment follows me when I move to another part of the map....

 

smh

 

[Coleco]

10 hours ago, netnow66 said:

 

• Camp cannot overlap with other camps

• Camp will always randomize every time you get into a new session from previous

• Camp will relocate if you move to a new region as it attempts to follow the player

• Camp will relocate if you log into a new session, since the game attempts to place your camp in the region but away from other player camps

• Camp will be packed up if no space can be found in the region, if you go to a new region the camp will move and find a suitable space

We appreciate your patience and understanding as we work to improve the game. 

 

How R* could improve the game:

 

• Stop camps moving around

 

That's what I have a horse for

 

 

[rtie]

Looks to me like they've fixed exploits associated with getting a solo session so you can actually set up your camp but not setting up your camp, they sure known where there priorities are at

[fryday]

logged in today and could set the camp immediatly in great plains. and there were animals everywhere. maybe i was just lucky, maybe not

[ThaBirdCoot]

3 hours ago, rtie said:

Looks to me like they've fixed exploits associated with getting a solo session so you can actually set up your camp but not setting up your camp, they sure known where there priorities are at

No, not yet. But they will soon, since some people simply can't shut up about it.

Edited October 9, 2019 by ThaBirdCoot

[Xtf]

On 10/8/2019 at 2:14 PM, Coleco said:

Camp will relocate if you move to a new region as it attempts to follow the player

Translation, rockstar support don't know how camps work.  You would think at least some of them might be familiar with the games that they are supposed to be supporting.  You can't answer every ticket with clear cache and reinstall, although I'm sure some of them try it.

[CMCSAVAGE]

38 minutes ago, Xtf said:

Translation, rockstar support don't know how camps work.  You would think at least some of them might be familiar with the games that they are supposed to be supporting.  You can't answer every ticket with clear cache and reinstall, although I'm sure some of them try it.

Not that I'm sticking up for them, but you're dealing with a basic tier 1 outsourced call center (if you will). The canned responses come from R* themselves, so you can't hold support accountable for doing what they're told to do.

 

 

[Xtf]

7 minutes ago, CMCSAVAGE said:

Not that I'm sticking up for them, but you're dealing with a basic tier 1 outsourced call center (if you will). The canned responses come from R* themselves, so you can't hold support accountable for doing what they're told to do.

 

 

Actually I can, I've worked tier 1 outsourced support for an isp and if you want to be able fix anything you need to use your common sense and maybe do a little research rather regurgitate the same crap for every issue.  Just because clearing the cache might fix one issue, it should not be the go to fix for every issue.  In fact I'm more annoyed with them because I've worked tier 1 support and it's people like this fobbing off customers who make the job harder for the rest of us. If a customer gets fobbed off twice before talking to someone who actually gives a sh*t, it's a lot harder for that person to convince them that this fix is actually going to do something. 

[rtie]

1 hour ago, ThaBirdCoot said:

No, not yet. But they will soon, since some people simply can't shut up about it.

look which topic you're in

[ThaBirdCoot]

16 minutes ago, rtie said:

look which topic you're in

I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't taking a jab at you. My complaint is about the folk who make this public by sharing it on youtube, reddit or whatever form they can. No wonder we can't have nice things. Egos always seek fame. 

 

Anyway yeah, it's been fun, will probably be a matter of a couple days before they figure out people can solo lobby distant sale. Then they gon shut that sh*t down in a heartbeat.

[rusbeckia]

On 10/8/2019 at 2:53 PM, hotrats773 said:

Awesome game mechanic. Just like in GTA when my apartment follows me when I move to another part of the map....

 

smh

 

Well your apartement in GTA isn‘t a temporary shelter. A camp is NOT supposed to be static. 
i guess in future it will make more sense when properties get released and you need the benefits of the camp on your tramps around the country.

because - obviously - your ranch won‘t follow you.

 

however there should be an option to toggle ir you want a temporary or static camp

[roggek]

On 10/8/2019 at 3:14 PM, Coleco said:

 

How R* could improve the game:

 

• Stop camps moving around

 

That's what I have a horse for

 

 

No , no,  no…

 

•  Give us properties (schacks, farms, mansions) instead of camps! And make Cripps our butler...

Edited October 11, 2019 by roggek

[ALifeOfMisery]

36 minutes ago, roggek said:

No , no,  no…

 

•  Give us properties (schacks, farms, mansions) instead of camps! And make Cripps our butler...

Butler, no, he's not allowed into the house. If he insists on hanging around I'll put a kennel outside for him.

[LooseCanon]

I don’t bother with my camp but it appears in some lobbies and not in others, I guess where’s it’s parked if there’s one already there I don’t get mine

[hotrats773]

On 10/9/2019 at 4:18 PM, Xtf said:

Actually I can, I've worked tier 1 outsourced support for an isp and if you want to be able fix anything you need to use your common sense and maybe do a little research rather regurgitate the same crap for every issue.  Just because clearing the cache might fix one issue, it should not be the go to fix for every issue.  In fact I'm more annoyed with them because I've worked tier 1 support and it's people like this fobbing off customers who make the job harder for the rest of us. If a customer gets fobbed off twice before talking to someone who actually gives a sh*t, it's a lot harder for that person to convince them that this fix is actually going to do something. 

Ha, same here. No longer on front lines but I understand. Canned responses can be helpful to convey information but R* has been using this since 2013 to fob off having to deal with their sh*tty, sh*tTY online reliability.

 

I get it. Some people really do need to reset their router, clear their cache, etc... but FFS; in the meantime, make a f*cking effort to deep dive into the cause. Going on six years now and they've been giving the same response.

[UncleTacitus]

I could give two s***s about the camp, that's mainly for two reasons. It's almost dead. There's no one interesting to interact with except my dog, but all I can do is pat him. At least let me go hunting with it or throw the little feller a bone. Don't even get me started with Cripps. He's a no good bum and a creep. He should be lucky I don't whip him every time I see his sorry a$$.

 

The second reason is the fact that the damn thing (camp) won't stay put. In single player I got pretty attached to the camp sites, because they had interesting characters and a cool location. Now, granted, sometimes Cripps, blind as bat even though he is, does happen to find a cool camp site, but it'll be fifteen minutes tops until he gets the itch again, and moves the damn thing next to his favorite whorehouse. Frustrating.

Edited October 11, 2019 by UncleTacitus

[Leftover Pizza]

18 hours ago, ALifeOfMisery said:

Butler, no, he's not allowed into the house. If he insists on hanging around I'll put a kennel outside for him.

He'll be shoving horse dung and cow pies if he wants to stay. I'll pitch a tent for him and move it around all the time, or pack it up at my convenience. 
The stables is as far as he gets on my ranch. 

[Leftover Pizza]

Every time this message appears, without a camp pitched, 

 

 

the map points me to this exact location every time again, even when I am at the other side of the map, or my previous spawned camp is in a totally different area.  

 

 

My guess, this spot works as the place where player camps are "stored", like assets in GTAO are stored underneath the map at LSIA. 

[RyuNova]

On 10/11/2019 at 5:44 PM, UncleTacitus said:

I could give two s***s about the camp, that's mainly for two reasons. It's almost dead. There's no one interesting to interact with except my dog, but all I can do is pat him. At least let me go hunting with it or throw the little feller a bone. Don't even get me started with Cripps. He's a no good bum and a creep. He should be lucky I don't whip him every time I see his sorry a$$.

 

To be fair Cripps is the sole reason I am rich. Not insanely rich but I doubt I have to worry about money for at least another update.

I agree about the Dog, R* seems to have trouble getting AI to follow us. Thats why they wont give us AI Bodyguards in GTAO even though AI can follow us in Single Player with no problem. Even if the Dog cant help us with Hunting or Collecting yet I am sure they can add the Wolf AI and Animations to it and help us in Combat.

 

On 10/11/2019 at 5:44 PM, UncleTacitus said:

The second reason is the fact that the damn thing (camp) won't stay put. In single player I got pretty attached to the camp sites, because they had interesting characters and a cool location. Now, granted, sometimes Cripps, blind as bat even though he is, does happen to find a cool camp site, but it'll be fifteen minutes tops until he gets the itch again, and moves the damn thing next to his favorite whorehouse. Frustrating.

 

It does kill my immersion that I am supposed to believe that an old man can strip down that camp and build it up as well as load everything into that Wagon. Some nameless NPC's (Cripps' assistant) that wonder around Camp and guard it would make more sense. Even that Kid from the Trader opening cinematic.

[UncleTacitus]

27 minutes ago, RyuNova said:

 

It does kill my immersion that I am supposed to believe that an old man can strip down that camp and build it up as well as load everything into that Wagon. Some nameless NPC's (Cripps' assistant) that wonder around Camp and guard it would make more sense. Even that Kid from the Trader opening cinematic.

I would love to have more camp NPC's as unlockables. Maybe they could tie them into rare random encounters or something. Kinda like we could hire some of the random NPC's as our heist crew in GTA V. Cripps' assistant is not a bad idea. And we could also use a cook and maybe someone to look after the horses etc.

[RyuNova]

1 minute ago, UncleTacitus said:

I would love to have more camp NPC's as unlockables. Maybe they could tie them into rare random encounters or something. Kinda like we could hire some of the random NPC's as our heist crew in GTA V. Cripps' assistant is not a bad idea. And we could also use a cook and maybe someone to look after the horses etc.

 

I am pretty sure we will get more NPC's at Camp with new Roles like Moonshiner that comes with an NPC and a Moonshine still.

 

Upgrades should have unlocked NPC's. Buying a Medium Wagon should have given you an NPC that looks after the Horses (Your Largest Wagon and its Horse should be a static prop in camp anyway). Stew Pot would give you a cook. More seating would have given you an NPC guard.

[hotrats773]

Ok, is it just me or are camps actually working halfway decent now? Maybe a hotfix or something but I've had no problems spawning them even I'm full lobbies.

 

 

[Xtf]

50 minutes ago, hotrats773 said:

Ok, is it just me or are camps actually working halfway decent now? Maybe a hotfix or something but I've had no problems spawning them even I'm full lobbies.

 

 

Expect it's probably luck.  This morning I had no camp in a 24 person and a 20 person lobby but then could pitch camp in another 24 person lobby. 

[RyuNova]

1 hour ago, hotrats773 said:

Ok, is it just me or are camps actually working halfway decent now? Maybe a hotfix or something but I've had no problems spawning them even I'm full lobbies.

 

 

 

Might be working better. Out of the six times I have logged in last five have set up my camp automatically and the sixth set it up first time I asked.

[Leftover Pizza]

My camp moved from Braithwaite Manor, Scarlett Meadows to Lake Don Julio, Cholla Springs, without notice and within the same session...... at least it stayed up....