Fat Faces Are Here to Stay

[The Dedito Gae]

56 minutes ago, Assblaster said:

As a veteran player the only appreciation I want R* to extend to us vets is not to mess up our beta characters so that new players can have an easier time of it in the character creator. I made some good-looking characters with the old creator, it just took a lot of tweaking. It took time and patience but it worked alright.

 

They shouldn't have changed anything if it was going to alter older characters. That's a pretty hard slap in the face of their diehard playerbase. Pretty stupid move if you ask me.

They didnt even warned us or released an official statement lol, now im gonna have to spend more money tweaking my character to look how i want...

[Pocket Fox]

6 hours ago, The Deadite said:

But my character didnt had a beta face wtf, she just had the gaunt cheeks which dont look gaunt at all

My character was created during the BETA, but was entirely remade in 1.11 (Frontier Pursuits) yet in 1.12 she has the wide face.

 

I tried moving sliders around from neutral to narrow, she does not look the same. Just freakishly weirder.

[jazzbone]

Sad that some females are suffering a drop from an 8 or 9 to a 6 or 7.
Actually many females give me a face full of hot lead before i can even get close enough to see if they got fat face or not.

Me? I am a guy and have no real hope to ever look handsome in this game. My handsome gtao character fills my handsomeness desires.
As long as i don't get fat butt in rdro i am ok with my looks. That is, when my face is clean.

Edited September 20, 2019 by jazzbone

[Deadman2112]

Yeah I remade my character the other night and it worked fine.

 

However, friend of mine said that he adjusted a few things and the sliders wouldn't stay for some reason.

 

I just chalked this up to one of two reasons...

 

Either he was making a mistake somehow.

 

...or it could have been due to the fact that wherever he was adjusting the slider, it was too much for that specific model.

 

Edited September 19, 2019 by Deadman2112

[Commander S]

33 minutes ago, Pocket Fox said:

My character was created during the BETA, but was entirely remade in 1.11 (Frontier Pursuits) yet in 1.12 she has the wide face.

 

I tried moving sliders around from neutral to narrow, she does not look the same. Just freakishly weirder.

 

 

What I'm guessing is that 1.11 didn't update the head models from the beta - so anyone who updated their character was still ultimately tweaking the same settings as they had originally, and it wasn't until 1.12 that they swapped out the old headmorphs for the post-beta ones across the board.

 

In any case, it's just such a bass-ackwards way of doing it - meanwhile Monster Hunter just released a massive expansion (it's big enough to be a fully-fledged sequel!), including a whole load of new character customisation options. Except, unlike RDO, all those new settings (including new mouth presets, new eye shapes, etc.), the MH team at Capcom didn't replace the existing ones to do so! Nope - they just added half a dozen new variations to a bunch of settings on top of the old ones (and gave everyone a free appearance change voucher, like RDO), but your character remains unchanged if you don't do anything, and all the old settings are still there even if you do tweak anything.

 

 

That's such a better way of doing it, clearly - and I don't understand why R* didn't do the same. And IMO, it wouldn't hurt for them to ...just add the old ones back in as well as keeping the new ones, and give players a whole lot more choice/scope for character customisation. No game was ever made worse by adding more options, after all - but I can think of plenty that just weren't the same after something got added at the expense of something else...

[Next-Gen Vercettis]

Took a break to 'relax' (cough) and went back to it. 

I moved the slider for the eyebrow height a tiny amount and they jumped up more than they should have. It seems to have fixed the squint. 

Also tweaked the rest a bit. 

 

But still not entirely happy, so for now this is my new look. 

 

 

This has cost me 20 gold that I was saving to customise my guns. I've never submitted a ticket for anything (including 6 years of GTA) but I'm not paying for this. Can someone either link or tell me where I do it please? 

[TheLordMarvel]

2 minutes ago, Next-Gen Vercettis said:

Can someone either link or tell me where I do it please?

 

Here you go. 

 

https://support.rockstargames.com/categories/115001624507?step=dea4b872

[RaigeGames]

My character looks like he got stuck in the face by a bumblebee....

[ditsall22]

Alright, heres my character at patch 1.11

 

Here is 1.12

 

Before

 

After

 

 

Side note my female character who was also made during the beta(i think?) didn't get fat pudgy face.

Edited December 14, 2019 by ditsall22

[Karen Daniels]

7 hours ago, Deadman2112 said:

However, friend of mine said that he adjusted a few things and the sliders wouldn't stay for some reason.

 

...or it could have been due to the fact that wherever he was adjusting the slider, it was too much for that specific model.

 

It is not that the sliders do not stay where you place them. It is that when you confirm the changes and purchase the change, the sliders go to random points on the scale. So you put a slider at point 4.3x7.5 what you are seeing is the true representation. When you confirm the spot, the slider will move to say 8.1x2.6 so even if you want to tweak it you have to move the slider back to the position you had it in. And when you return to the creator they are just all over the place.

 

To the second point... the heritage (skull shapes) option was specific to allow you to create from that shape. Idk what they have done to the shapes but they are all shaped different since the 17th. Heritage 3 on the female (possibly the best one there was) has been hit the hardest.

 

I mean.... I understand that people WANTED to have their character appear in game as they do when creating them and have more options. That does not mean they wanted what was there to have a rolling pin taken to it. Not a single body asked for this change, it was unnecessary, unwarranted, and unannounced (the worst part). Had it said somewhere in the patch notes with Frontier Updates or even yesterday's patch, it would be a bit more understandable (not reasonable), and this is of course including a second free character change.

 

I do not want my 10 gold back. I do not want anything credited to my account. I just want my character to look f*cking normal and not like Robert Z'dar. Is this a demand? You bet your sweet ass it is. I normally do not make demands, but this was a change that no body requested nor asked for, let alone suggested. I get they made changes to the creator, but for this drastic of a change? Does anyone even recall having faces this wide when they originally implemented the changes months ago? It is only made worse by the lack of any mention, and that Rockstar has not even said anything on the matter. They do not need to wait for a fix to come in, just say they understand the issue and go from there.

 

EDIT: No offense to Robert Z'dar... may he rest in peace.

Edited September 20, 2019 by Karen Daniels

[jazzbone]

Woof Bulltsor here with this breaking report.

R* has just released this response to the current fat face crisis in their otherwise flawless RDRO video game.
Hector Gearloose, R* spokesperson, has said that they will work 24/7 to fix the fat face bug.
R* has suggested setting view ratio to 4:3 as a temporary fix for those affected until a patch can be released.

Now this bulletin just in from Punxsutawney.......

Edited September 20, 2019 by jazzbone

[Deadman2112]

@Karen Daniels

 

Yeah I'm not looking to get a refund either.

 

And no I don't remember them being that wide either.

 

...but then again, I kind of quickly browse through that section and didn't put a whole lot Into it.

Although looking back on it now I probably should have.

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by Deadman2112

[Scottimatsu]

Well I have just submitted a support ticket after noticing my character's suddenly fat face today so hopefully one more complaint will add to their growing pile! I don't know if any of you guys are aware of this but a similar thing happened in GTA Online a while back after an update... character's faces got distorted (possibly after wearing a mask as I recall? ) but it did eventually get fixed so maybe that bodes well for this issue. Meantime I have luckily saved my character creation sliders so I'm going to go into the character editor and reset everything then see if my slider settings can replicate my character this time round, and I'll post my results here. Worth noting also that I did update my character from the original beta version after the Frontier Pursuits update dropped. I wonder if the fat face bug is tied to having done that, as opposed to leaving my character as she was when I originally created her in the beta

[Karen Daniels]

1 hour ago, Scottimatsu said:

Well I have just submitted a support ticket after noticing my character's suddenly fat face today so hopefully one more complaint will add to their growing pile! I don't know if any of you guys are aware of this but a similar thing happened in GTA Online a while back after an update... character's faces got distorted (possibly after wearing a mask as I recall? ) but it did eventually get fixed so maybe that bodes well for this issue. Meantime I have luckily saved my character creation sliders so I'm going to go into the character editor and reset everything then see if my slider settings can replicate my character this time round, and I'll post my results here. Worth noting also that I did update my character from the original beta version after the Frontier Pursuits update dropped. I wonder if the fat face bug is tied to having done that, as opposed to leaving my character as she was when I originally created her in the beta

Yeah I remember that GTA O incident. Characters aged or got skin damage options added to their faces. It was fixed within a week, but I would like to guess that Rockstar at least commented on it. The difference here is that based upon all data gathered this was an intended change but no mention was made at any point.

 

And I do not want to rain on your parade, but going in and moving the sliders back to what you used will not yield the result you are looking for. It will be closer to what you had pre-update, but will still look off sadly. I do wish you luck on the endeavor!

[Scottimatsu]

OK so I can now safely say that the character editor in Red Dead is actually completely broken because I went in and reset, then redid my character as I mentioned in my previous post only to find that the gal that emerged back into the game was kind of "off" around the chin and it was clear that some of the changes I had made were not in effect. I've now gone back into the editor once again to find that the sliders now don't even represent the changes I'd made about 10 minutes ago!! They're all over the place now even though my character's face is still pretty much as it was in game. What a fail by Rockstar. They should have got Volition to lend them their Saints Row character creation station!! Meh  

[StyxTx]

18 hours ago, grandtheftbanksy said:

I hope this is sarcasm. "Just eat less fatty" It has nothing to do with diet.  R* f#cked up something with the update.  Alot of us created these characters almost a year ago and don't really appreciate them randomly changing them for the worse.  Cheers to you that your character's appearance isn't important.  For some of us it is.  

R* f#cked up a lot of things with this update.

[AStiffBreeze]

21 minutes ago, StyxTx said:

R* f#cked up a lot of things with this update.

The annoying thing though is that they only f*cked this up with the tiny (and largely meaningless) 1.12 update, which was just supposed to be a small stability patch that introduced no new features, and not the actual 1.11 update. 

[Karen Daniels]

21 minutes ago, Scottimatsu said:

OK so I can now safely say that the character editor in Red Dead is actually completely broken because I went in and reset, then redid my character as I mentioned in my previous post only to find that the gal that emerged back into the game was kind of "off" around the chin and it was clear that some of the changes I had made were not in effect. I've now gone back into the editor once again to find that the sliders now don't even represent the changes I'd made about 10 minutes ago!! They're all over the place now even though my character's face is still pretty much as it was in game. What a fail by Rockstar. They should have got Volition to lend them their Saints Row character creation station!! Meh  

Like I said... it would not work out how one would expect. Submit a performance ticket and request a chat, keep the window open and you should be connected immediately to a support rep and get the gold/money credited to your account. If you have screenshots of before the update and after, use them.

 

I have been trying to crunch this in my mind, but to no success in terms of compartmentalizing it (something I have a horrible habit of doing).I get that these changes were supposed to something they intended with the character appearence changes they added early this year, but that makes me question 2 things:

 

1) Why not have implemented these changes with the original suite of appearance changes made? It would have made a lot more sense to do so.

 

2) Why should they affect beta characters? Understandably it is due to the structure being "outdated", but to say to everyone who recreated their characters, that it doesn't matter what you wanted, this is what is gonna be, now work with what we are giving you, is the wrong way to go about this.

 

3) Just... why? It was not difficult to use any of the heritage options to get a base skull shape to work with, to create your character from. It just takes time. Now taking those structures and deforming them, you have not only limited what players can create, but now restricted something they have worked to achieve.

2 minutes ago, AStiffBreeze said:

The annoying thing though is that they only f*cked this up with the tiny (and largely meaningless) 1.12 update, which was just supposed to be a small stability patch that introduced no new features, and not the actual 1.11 update. 

Again... stability my ass. I cant even take a posse photo now, thanks to a hard crash. Not to mention 90% of self-portrait picture poses have never worked for me (can only do hands folded in front and the two kneeling ones).

[Chrismads]

8 hours ago, RawGo0n said:

This is a new one i just made

 

The face doesn't look too moon face here.

Just hope I can fix my character as well, but without him looking like a grey haired 14 year old lol

[RyuNova]

Can we get access to this hidden "Head Size" slider? I have used my free Outlaw Pass voucher to edit my character but his actual head is still too wide. Thats the issue.

[ivarblaauw]

after a lot of tweaking (took me 4 times, got refunded fully by R*) I managed to recreate myself once again

It took some work, but it is possible to fix your character, that said, I've had to tweak for a total of 4/5 hours to get it right. And even then there are quite a lot of limits in the creator.

[AmyStone]

Just want confirmation here. If I go into the editor and play around with the sliders (and possibly mess up my character) can you just cancel your changes and your character won't be affected at all?

[ivarblaauw]

3 minutes ago, AmyStone said:

Just want confirmation here. If I go into the editor and play around with the sliders (and possibly mess up my character) can you just cancel your changes and your character won't be affected at all?

yes, you can exit the character editor anytime without costs. You only pay upon confirmation

Edited September 20, 2019 by ivarblaauw

[AmyStone]

10 minutes ago, ivarblaauw said:

yes, you can exit the character editor anytime without costs. You only pay upon confirmation

But does it also mean that nothing gets saved? Nothing at all?

[ivarblaauw]

Just now, AmyStone said:

But does it also mean that nothing gets saved? Nothing at all?

yeah. no changes saved at all.

[AmyStone]

7 minutes ago, ivarblaauw said:

yeah. no changes saved at all.

Ok, thank you. I might go in and tweak a few things. I know it's never going to happen but because the editor doesn't really show you how your character will look in the real red dead world then it would be nice to have the option in the editor to revert your changes back to the previous save.

[Coleco]

Nobody:

 

Rockstar:

I

LIKE

BIG

FACES AND I CAN NOT LIE

 

 

[P.T.]

So when i got to use my Free Change after the update last week , i got my guy looking like this :

 

 

After the stupid update he looks like he has just been at golden corral stuffing his face with mac n cheese , noodles, fat back , and mashed taters for 8 hours a day for the last 2 weeks:

 

 

 

 

 

Ive not tried to adjust him back yet since it seems so many are not able to get their characters back to where they had them. I hope they can revert this "fix to the creator" as the person from support told me yesterday was the cause of this . Because this is just flat out stupid. 

Edited September 20, 2019 by P.T.

[Pocket Fox]

I think my weapons are floating further away then usual on my character when she's on horseback.

Standing is fine, but horseback the guns seem to float more.

[RyuNova]

1 hour ago, Pocket Fox said:

I think my weapons are floating further away then usual on my character when she's on horseback.

Standing is fine, but horseback the guns seem to float more.

 

Yup, its like they changed the entire character skeleton.