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Joker and Introducing Joker: Folie à Deux


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its all opinions of course but to me the reason of the love is it is pretty original and doesn’t try too hard, which makes it good.

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Joaquin Phoenix just won the oscar for Best Actor.

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Is Joker worth the money to watch on digital?

 

My eldest is 11 and loves the batman franchise and isn't a newb when it comes to watching thrillers and scary movies so is there any reason why she shouldn't be allowed to watch this with me?

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46 minutes ago, ṼirulenⱦEqừinox said:

Is Joker worth the money to watch on digital?

 

My eldest is 11 and loves the batman franchise and isn't a newb when it comes to watching thrillers and scary movies so is there any reason why she shouldn't be allowed to watch this with me?

Perhaps the easiest way to describe the film to you is that it isn't a Batman film. It has characters from the Batman universe but it's really it's own thing, if your kid wants to watch Joker because it's a Batman film they're going to be a little confused when he doesn't show up. The plot is also pretty political with almost zero action, much of the plot may be a little too mature for the average kiddo to fully understand.

 

Secondly, it's R rated. I'll leave it up to you for to ultimately decide but the R rating there isn't cause of jump scares or spooky stuff like the typical Hollywood horror film.

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Yeah, it doesn’t have the feel of a Batman movie.  It’s got the tone of a 1970s or 80s Scorsese or de Palma film.  Dark and very adult.
 

If violence and profanity isn’t an issue, I’d say give it a shot.

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Finally caught this flick last week, couldn't wait so rented a pre-release on Sky, lol. Definitely a movie I buy immediately for the collection though, and I'm pretty sure I'll be rewatching some early Scorsese movies after this too. My kind of movie, but I don't enjoy the cinema alone so waited. Worth the wait and the cheeky extra to rent be for I buy.

 

I remember a decade or so back when some dreaded a new Joker on the big screen, but we've been really spoiled by a couple of strong turns since. (Plus I like Jerome in Gotham too, fun show). Great stuff.

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before watching joker, i used to think that all these avengers movies were really good, but after watching it, i now think they are just meh....

 

i mean, whenever i leave the theatre from an avengers movie, i don't even remember most of what happens in that movie. maybe i just remember some jokes, a few moments like captain america catching thor's hammer, but i don't remember much beyond that.

 

but after watching the joker, i still remember every single scene in the movie. i remember the opening scene where arthur intensely smiles in the mirror, i remember the dancing on the stairs, the dancing in the bathroom, the subway shooting, arthur meeting bruce, arthur meeting thomas, arthur smothering his mom, shooting murray franklin on national tv..... this movie has so many memorable moments and makes other superhero movies seem shallow in comparison. i think this movie did a great job in exploring joker's character, societal issues like austerity and mental health, joker being an unreliable narrator, joker becoming his true self at the end of the movie, and other topics.

 

i don't watch movies that often, but this movie really blew me away. i rate this 10/10.

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I've been asked time and again regarding the name of the song that players during 'dancing on the stairs scene'. It's called 'Hey' by Gary Glitter. Here it is.

 

 

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can we talk about the music in this movie?

 

 

everyone talks about joaquin's performance or the writing (which are both excellent), but i think the music is really overlooked and makes some scenes even better

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4 hours ago, Niobium said:

can we talk about the music in this movie?

 

 

everyone talks about joaquin's performance or the writing (which are both excellent), but i think the music is really overlooked and makes some scenes even better

 

I agree. The music really sets the tone and when he's first introduced as The Joker it gave me goosebumps.

 

 

The soundtrack's also really top notch.

 

 

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Unpopular opinion, but I didn't really like the movie, memes aside.

 

To me it just feels like another woke, f*ck society type film like Falling Down or Natural Born Killers, and the numerous references to Taxi Driver only drives this idea even further.

 

Arthur is a well-written protagonist, but I find him very cliche in numerous ways. It doesn't help that the world around him is so comedically negative towards him, to the point of being over the top a lot of the times. He's like an angsty teenager who has been grounded by his abusive parents for far too long, for a lack of a better analogy.

 

It tries to be deep and critical of society on a socio-political scale, but it winds up being superficial and empty-handed, and the more I progress through the film, the more predictable the plot becomes. It's like reading a character study of a person like Travis Bickle as written by a 15-year old goth kid who just found out about nihilism.

 

In short, it's the film equivalent of a Rage Against The Machine song.

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On 4/28/2020 at 2:17 AM, Niobium said:

can we talk about the music in this movie?

 

everyone talks about joaquin's performance or the writing (which are both excellent), but i think the music is really overlooked and makes some scenes even better

Joaquin had outstanding performance in the movie & in that particular scene as well. But it's undoubtedly the music from the scene which made it so special. The song is called Hey by Gary Glitter. Anyone who has watched The Office before must have heard this soundtrack.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jimmy said:

Joaquin had outstanding performance in the movie & in that particular scene as well. But it's undoubtedly the music from the scene which made it so special. The song is called Hey by Gary Glitter. Anyone who has watched The Office before must have heard this soundtrack.

 

 

The song is actually called Rock and Roll part 2, as stated in that very YouTube video.

 

It was popular to play in sports arenas until Gary Glitter was charged with several sex crimes.

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5 minutes ago, darthYENIK said:

The song is actually called Rock and Roll part 2, as stated in that very YouTube video.

 

It was popular to play in sports arenas until Gary Glitter was charged with several sex crimes.

Didn't know of the last fact. I have been hearing the name "Hey Song" ever since the trailer came out. That's how I got the name. I never figured out whether the song name was Rock & Roll part 2. I figured it was a part of the album/EP bearing the name. Thanks for correcting me there.

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On 6/11/2020 at 5:00 PM, Jimmy said:

Didn't know of the last fact. I have been hearing the name "Hey Song" ever since the trailer came out. That's how I got the name. I never figured out whether the song name was Rock & Roll part 2. I figured it was a part of the album/EP bearing the name. Thanks for correcting me there.

Yeah it's also in the film, The Full Monty with Robert Carlyle. 

 

I think it was deliberate to use a Gary Glitter track. I mean, it's a great track but I think they deliberately wanted to use a track by a disgraced sex offender. And I think it's because it's a catchy tune. And it's very hard not to tap your foot or bop your head to the rhythm. And here, we're invited to empathize with Joker, a seriously ill and evil man. And there's the juxtaposition of that we're in theatre, bopping our head to song by a convicted child rapist and a comic book villain. 

 

Todd Phillips made his name in comedy, there's no doubt he was making a statement here and maybe his tongue was in cheek but it works and is wrong at the same time on so many levels. 

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On 7/4/2020 at 6:08 PM, Mister Pink said:

Yeah it's also in the film, The Full Monty with Robert Carlyle. 

 

I think it was deliberate to use a Gary Glitter track. I mean, it's a great track but I think they deliberately wanted to use a track by a disgraced sex offender. And I think it's because it's a catchy tune. And it's very hard not to tap your foot or bop your head to the rhythm. And here, we're invited to empathize with Joker, a seriously ill and evil man. And there's the juxtaposition of that we're in theatre, bopping our head to song by a convicted child rapist and a comic book villain. 

 

Todd Phillips made his name in comedy, there's no doubt he was making a statement here and maybe his tongue was in cheek but it works and is wrong at the same time on so many levels. 

What's interesting is that one of his first films was a documentary on the infamous GG Allin.

"One day I will think of this as just another job. After all, this is what I do."

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I read this won't be on netflix any time soon

"You don't understand! I could've had class. I could've been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am."

                                                                                                                                                   

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39 minutes ago, Craigsters said:

I read this won't be on netflix any time soon

WB wants you to sign up for HBO Max instead.

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I gave up cable a year ago, and only have the internet through teksavvy there meddle unlimited package and netflix online,  I save over one hundred and twenty five dollars a month not having cable, I have a digital antenna that get's me 4 English channel's for free

"You don't understand! I could've had class. I could've been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am."

                                                                                                                                                   

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3 hours ago, Craigsters said:

I read this won't be on netflix any time soon

It’s on Amazon Prime though (recently added) and I’m pissed because I paid like $25 for it off Google Play a few months back lol.

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I ended up ordering this tonight from Amazon prime,  at $14.99 CAD and already learned  how to move the app downloaded to my external drive, My OS drive chokes up on mods from nexusmods  when the mods are to big , why are OS drives so small in storage 100gb ?

 

Owe the film was good and  showed  the  true nature of mental illness

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"You don't understand! I could've had class. I could've been a contender. I could've been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am."

                                                                                                                                                   

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On 6/7/2022 at 9:20 PM, Zello said:

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I liked the title as it feels menacing, but I am not board with the sequel as the first closed the movie perfectly. If the sequel is better than the first, I guess Todd Phillips did not repeat "The Hangover Part II" on that one. Looks like it will premiere at a film festival like Cannes or Venice next year or two if the movie wraps up production. 

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I also don't like the idea of a sequel. Knowing how WB is they're going to interfere a lot and screw it up badly.

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20 hours ago, Zello said:

I also don't like the idea of a sequel. 

 

Me neither.

 

In my opinion, the first film worked so great because it was very grounded and had little to no relation with the fantastical elements of the superhero universe. It almost didn't feel like a traditional comic book flick. I mean, you could easily trade "Joker" for "Sad Clown" and not much would've been missed. It was a character movie obviously inspired by the likes of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy.

 

The sequel is probably gonna try to expand the world, add new characters (Batman?) and make it feel less grounded, more comic friendly. Perhaps they're trying to start a franchise of some sort? Now, of course this is all speculation from my part and I might be wrong in my assumptions. All we can do is hope for the best!

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I remember a video about hypotetical Joker's sequel that explores Harley Quinn's origin instead of expanding Arthur's story. Basically we follow the psychiatrist's perspective as she descends into madness for interacting with Arthur in the asylum. Promising idea, but I doubt the real sequel will be about that. 

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