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ReadDeadStu

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ReadDeadStu

I finished my second play through of RDR2 earlier. Still an incredible game. I've got the first game on order. I never played it originally. I'm getting the game of the year edition that also comes with Undead Nightmare. I just want the whole experience. 

It'll probably be years before RDR3 comes out (if ever) and I'm not holding out any hope for single player DLC. 

 

I'd love if there was an RDR comic book published or something. Just anything else set in this world. I find it hypnotic and very enjoyable to spend time in. 

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DarksunDaFirst

Welcome to the world of Westerns videogames..

Very few titles that actually do it - but if you want to play some classics, check out the game "Gun".  
Image result for Gun (video game)

You can also check out the original Red Dead

Red Dead Revolver Coverart.jpg


There are a few others out there, notably Call of Juarez.
 

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GroveStGTAV

dont forget to watch this awesome short film

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Don Maximus Meridius

I'm a great fan of old west games, RDR2 & RDR1, Gun, Call of Juarez, Sunset Riders (SNES), but the best of all time is Red Dead Revolver, R* should do a remake!

 

But after the last update, Red Dead Online has become a must-see experience for the genre. The most complete by far.

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~INDIO~
4 hours ago, ReadDeadStu said:

I finished my second play through of RDR2 earlier. Still an incredible game. I've got the first game on order. I never played it originally. I'm getting the game of the year edition that also comes with Undead Nightmare. I just want the whole experience. 

It'll probably be years before RDR3 comes out (if ever) and I'm not holding out any hope for single player DLC. 

 

I'd love if there was an RDR comic book published or something. Just anything else set in this world. I find it hypnotic and very enjoyable to spend time in. 

The first game is amazing, you're gonna love it 

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Jabalous

Try Mafia 2 if you're looking for a similarly paced experience that is story-focused, puts an emphasis on realism and deliberate details, and has a unique, varied atmosphere. 

Edited by Jabalous

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ReadDeadStu

If I liked GTA 5 and RDR2 - would I enjoy LA Noire do you think? 

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seldo
16 minutes ago, ReadDeadStu said:

If I liked GTA 5 and RDR2 - would I enjoy LA Noire do you think? 

I played and finished LA Noire on PS3, and didn't find it particularly interesting.

There were some good parts of it and nice setups, but overall, I don't keep any special memory of it.

 

In particular, regardless what your guesses are, you are still making it through the story, without any changes.

 

That said, you can find it for cheap today, so you give it a try!

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ReadDeadStu
1 minute ago, seldo said:

I played and finished LA Noire on PS3, and didn't find it particularly interesting.

There were some good parts of it and nice setups, but overall, I don't keep any special memory of it.

 

In particular, regardless what your guesses are, you are still making it through the story, without any changes.

 

That said, you can find it for cheap today, so you give it a try!

I've already got it, just haven't got round to playing it yet. I might give it a shot 

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jje1000

It's a real shame that the only thing Rockstar is doing with the world so far is using it for RDO.

 

RDRII's world is a world-building triumph of visual and narrative storytelling, and it deserves more than being reduced, IMO.

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ReadDeadStu

Yeah. I'm not really an online person with games. Not everyone is. I had a quick go on RDO but I got bored of it very quickly. 

 

I don't know if R* will ever do single player DLC but I wish they'd at least tell us either way. 

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ThroatSlasher2
On 9/17/2019 at 6:18 AM, ReadDeadStu said:

Yeah. I'm not really an online person with games. Not everyone is. I had a quick go on RDO but I got bored of it very quickly. 

 

I don't know if R* will ever do single player DLC but I wish they'd at least tell us either way. 

Why tell us nothing's coming out when they can keep quiet and entice some folks into buying the game in hopes of seeing it being supported post-launch?

 

Keeping us guessing (for monetary gains) is what Rockstar does best.

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JumpingKentFlash
On 9/17/2019 at 1:36 AM, DarksunDaFirst said:

Welcome to the world of Westerns videogames..

Very few titles that actually do it - but if you want to play some classics, check out the game "Gun".  
Image result for Gun (video game)

You can also check out the original Red Dead

Red Dead Revolver Coverart.jpg


There are a few others out there, notably Call of Juarez.
 

 

 

I cannot hype Gun enough. It’s a beautiful world and a great story. In my game collection I only have R*, and then Gun.

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DarksunDaFirst
On 9/22/2019 at 3:26 AM, JumpingKentFlash said:

 

 

I cannot hype Gun enough. It’s a beautiful world and a great story. In my game collection I only have R*, and then Gun.

Yep.  Gun was essentially what Rockstar wanted it to become.  They took a lot of cues from that game.

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Tonesta
On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2019 at 5:07 AM, ReadDeadStu said:

If I liked GTA 5 and RDR2 - would I enjoy LA Noire do you think? 

I actually played LA Noire in between GTA 5 and RDR2 (both of which I love).

 

It's a very odd game.

The map is huge and detailed - which is great - but there's really very little going on in it. Outside of the main missions, and some scripted street crimes, there's vanishingly little to do. There's not even very many collectables.

The story is interesting and has some depth to it, but to me felt very disjointed and the pacing was all over the place.

And then the main missions themselves are certainly original, and the interviews are a nice touch that I haven't seen anywhere else - but the game doesn't really punish you for being incompetent (other than missing out on the occasional scripted content); the story moves on regardless.

 

Frankly, it feels like a missed opportunity. There's a lot there to like, but you feel that if it had gotten the full Rockstar treatment (as opposed to be made by another studio and just being influenced and distributed by Rockstar) then it could've been a classic. But it falls short.

 

In all, I'd say it's a curiosity and worth your time. Just don't expect it to keep you busy/entertained as long as the other two.

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confederatestatesgta

i love the comic book idea. they could have that be our prequel to the blackwater heist.

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ReadDeadStu
On 9/23/2019 at 10:44 PM, confederatestatesgta said:

i love the comic book idea. they could have that be our prequel to the blackwater heist.

Now we're talking! 

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JumpingKentFlash
On 9/23/2019 at 7:40 PM, Tonesta said:

I actually played LA Noire in between GTA 5 and RDR2 (both of which I love).

 

It's a very odd game.

The map is huge and detailed - which is great - but there's really very little going on in it. Outside of the main missions, and some scripted street crimes, there's vanishingly little to do. There's not even very many collectables.

The story is interesting and has some depth to it, but to me felt very disjointed and the pacing was all over the place.

And then the main missions themselves are certainly original, and the interviews are a nice touch that I haven't seen anywhere else - but the game doesn't really punish you for being incompetent (other than missing out on the occasional scripted content); the story moves on regardless.

 

Frankly, it feels like a missed opportunity. There's a lot there to like, but you feel that if it had gotten the full Rockstar treatment (as opposed to be made by another studio and just being influenced and distributed by Rockstar) then it could've been a classic. But it falls short.

 

In all, I'd say it's a curiosity and worth your time. Just don't expect it to keep you busy/entertained as long as the other two.

Oh L.A. Noire does punish you for being incompetent. At my very first interrogation I f*cked up badly, so I got chewed out by the chief. “GET IN THERE AND DON’T SCREW UP AGAIN” I think he said. That has become my mantra every time I screw up in a R* mission. “Heist Failed - Trevor died” ..... “GET IN THERE AND DON’T SCREW UP AGAIN”!!!! 😂

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Nutbuster3000

Wählt die AFD ihr Nasenbären!!!

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ReadDeadStu

I began playing the original RDR today. You know, for an almost ten year old game - it still looks bloody impressive. Enjoying it so far! 

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Rykjeklut

Kinda not related to the topic, but related to what some part of discussion is on..

This video explains why LA Noire is the way it is, at least to some degree.

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I would love if Rockstar could be one of the good guys of gaming, and release some SP DLC, instead of this f*cking Games as a Service bullsh*t that's plagueing gaming now. But they won't.

 

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ReadDeadStu

Yeah. I read recently that R* ain't gonna be doing any SP DLC for RDR2. Damn shame. Opportunities are pretty much endless for that. 

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LeonVegaSuarez

I want to be able to freeroam New Austin with Arthur. Just make Blackwater a dead or alive zone.

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Trevor's Shaved Head

Gun was always felt a little hollow. Never what it could have been, but fun for the time. 
RDR1 blew me away. The writing, the voice acting, the empathy I had for the characters and the fact that by the end of the game, I felt like I had been with them all for the duration.
I didn't think I could be as emotionally invested in a game as I was with the first one, as I was with John. 
RDR2 is IMO a masterpiece, and surpasses the original in every way - a feat I didn't think was possible for a sequel. It filled all the gaps in the world that the first game was missing, and made just :being: in the world an event unto itself. The writing is top-notch, the story is outstanding and isn't beholden to the first game, but links with it beautifully.
Did I mention the world? It's incredible, breathtaking, visceral, beautiful, scary, and really makes me sad for the world we actually live in, and are losing to greed and destruction.

I don't think any of the other western games come close at all to the experience of RDR1, and none of them are even in the same universe as the second game. They're fun, but that's about it.
RDR2 is a revelation, and Arthur Morgan is so near and dear to my heart now that even just thinking of his story gives me an emotional kick to the heart.

The online game? Empty and hollow, even after the latest update. I'm not sure what game others are playing when they're giving it such love, but to me, it's just "fun" and nothing more. 
If Rockstar isn't committed to SP DLC, then that's a bloody shame, because I care not one whit for the online game beyond jumping in once in a while with a friend for some hunting and a few of the missions.

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ReadDeadStu

Well, I GOT more of this world! Just completed RDR1 😀

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Journey_95

RDR2 is one of my favourite games of all time so I completely agree with you. It's really rare that I get so invested in a game but the story, characters and world of RDR2 were just so amazing. Most games you just play and have some fun but quickly forget, RDR2 is one of those special one's that stick with you.

 

Sadly there likely won't be any SP DLC so I think we can't do much but replay the SP, Online sucks anyway

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ReadDeadStu
10 hours ago, Journey_95 said:

RDR2 is one of my favourite games of all time so I completely agree with you. It's really rare that I get so invested in a game but the story, characters and world of RDR2 were just so amazing. Most games you just play and have some fun but quickly forget, RDR2 is one of those special one's that stick with you.

 

Sadly there likely won't be any SP DLC so I think we can't do much but replay the SP, Online sucks anyway

 

Agree with all of this. 

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Rykjeklut

Will be exciting to see whether or not consoles get the extra content that PC apparently will get. 

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SonOfLiberty
On 9/24/2019 at 3:40 AM, Tonesta said:

I actually played LA Noire in between GTA 5 and RDR2 (both of which I love).

 

It's a very odd game.

The map is huge and detailed - which is great - but there's really very little going on in it. Outside of the main missions, and some scripted street crimes, there's vanishingly little to do. There's not even very many collectables.

The story is interesting and has some depth to it, but to me felt very disjointed and the pacing was all over the place.

And then the main missions themselves are certainly original, and the interviews are a nice touch that I haven't seen anywhere else - but the game doesn't really punish you for being incompetent (other than missing out on the occasional scripted content); the story moves on regardless.

 

Frankly, it feels like a missed opportunity. There's a lot there to like, but you feel that if it had gotten the full Rockstar treatment (as opposed to be made by another studio and just being influenced and distributed by Rockstar) then it could've been a classic. But it falls short.

 

In all, I'd say it's a curiosity and worth your time. Just don't expect it to keep you busy/entertained as long as the other two.

I think some people don't really understand LA Noire though. It's not supposed to be GTA in the 40s. The city is used as a backdrop to the story hence it's not supposed to distract players with side missions and other activities. IMO it straddles a fine line where its open world is inviting just enough to explore, but not so much where it distracts players with unnecessary content.

 

With regards to the story itself it's definitely not for everyone, but then again we're talking about a story medium that peaked 60 years ago. I would say film noir is pretty much an acquired taste. I liked though that the newspaper articles extended parts of the story though, but missing these can lead to gaping holes if you're not paying attention. I agree the consequences could've mad some more weight. 

 

Anyway back on top with the recent new of RDR2 coming to PC I'm looking forward to seeing what the game will look like on a decent rig. i's already breathtaking on PS4 and XB1, but a top notch PC will definitely breath more life into the map.

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Tonesta
4 hours ago, SonOfLiberty said:

I think some people don't really understand LA Noire though. It's not supposed to be GTA in the 40s. The city is used as a backdrop to the story hence it's not supposed to distract players with side missions and other activities. IMO it straddles a fine line where its open world is inviting just enough to explore, but not so much where it distracts players with unnecessary content.

 

With regards to the story itself it's definitely not for everyone, but then again we're talking about a story medium that peaked 60 years ago. I would say film noir is pretty much an acquired taste. I liked though that the newspaper articles extended parts of the story though, but missing these can lead to gaping holes if you're not paying attention. I agree the consequences could've mad some more weight. 

 

I just think that if the map is there purely to serve the story, rather than be an intrinsic separate game playing experience in itself - which I agree is probably the case with LA Noire, unlike all of the traditional GTA/RDR Rockstar games - then why did they make it so big, so detailed and so varied? I love exploration and immersion in Rockstar games, and am often happy to spend hours messing about between missions.

LA Noire left me with no desire to do that, rather once I'd realized that the world was rather empty, it was finish mission, then start next mission most of the time - which is fine; but if that's intentional, why spend so many 1000s of person-hours on the map design? As it is, it just feels like a bit of a tease!

 

And whilst I like the story in general - it's the pacing that feels weird to me. The game really just concentrates on building up the character during stand-alone (or in the case of the Homicide desk, linked but still separate) cases for the first two thirds of the game, with just the occasional flashback or reference to the overall arc, and then crams the whole plot into half a dozen (well, maybe seven) missions at the end.

 

 

None of this is to say I didn't like the game, just that I felt that it could have been an absolute masterpiece, but ended up falling just a little short. Especially compared to a game like RDR2.

 

 

 

 

 

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