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P.T.

So about that "Free Aim" Takedown Series they added

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djb204
On 9/11/2019 at 7:34 AM, P.T. said:

Why is Rockstar so against total free aim? I really dont get it . If it is free aim , then let it be fully free aim for everyone. Make the playing field actually level across the board. If someone wants assisted aim , there are matches for that already.

Agreed 100%.

 

As for your question about why is Rockstar against it....

 

Maybe the devs suck at free aim and don’t want to get owned in their own game? LOL. The real reason is probably due to ability cards. Full free aim would render some ability cards that rely on aim assist to become obsolete.

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wehweh01
1 hour ago, djb204 said:

Agreed 100%.

 

As for your question about why is Rockstar against it....

 

Maybe the devs suck at free aim and don’t want to get owned in their own game? LOL. The real reason is probably due to ability cards. Full free aim would render some ability cards that rely on aim assist to become obsolete.

I simply assume that the developers have nobody actually doing testing with Free Aim in the first place. I think the strafe speed up is proof enough that nobody at Rockstar really considers Free Aim at all. Add how Slippery was nerfed and you see that they want people to continue that "Peek-A-Boo" Aim Assist crap. Hell, just look at GTAO. We complained constantly about why players are allowed to join Free Aim servers with Free Aim Assist (FAA). Yet Rockstar did nothing and gave no answer. It's infuriating but it is what it is.

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boppa_

RDR1 also had a proper Free Aim mode without any of this aim assist b0llocks. 

 

Aim assist within free aim game modes was something they added when GTAO moved to PS4 and I've been astounded by it's continual inclusion ever since. 

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P.T.
1 hour ago, boppa_ said:

RDR1 also had a proper Free Aim mode without any of this aim assist b0llocks. 

 

Aim assist within free aim game modes was something they added when GTAO moved to PS4 and I've been astounded by it's continual inclusion ever since. 

 

Yeah its pretty sad to be honest. I know most wont  because clearly taking 3 minutes is just "too much work" that "wont result in anything" but i encourage everyone to go to the feedback page - https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadonline/feedback  daily and leave them the following suggestions for gameplay balance/showdown series/ other feedback :

 

Two changes need to be made to Free Aim Showdown Series:

 

1- Disable all ability cards

2- Auto turn off all Aim Assists to anyone who joins and lock them so  they can not be adjusted

 

These changes are needed to bring true balance to and make it actually Free Aim .

 

I know many will say it wont matter..... thats the same thing people said about giving feedback asking for free aim in the first place for RDR2Online. Seems enough people suggested it and it was brought in ( its free aim in the same sense it was on GTAVO).  It literally only takes a few minutes and i highly encourage everyone to submit this feedback daily . Get your friends who want to see true free aim to do the same. They have provided a place to give this feedback and request this. If we do not do that, then can we really just complain ?I hope everyone does this , i know i will be . It hurts nothing to try . 

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boppa_

Yeah I´ve submitted many feedback items about this... 

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P.T.
44 minutes ago, boppa_ said:

Yeah I´ve submitted many feedback items about this... 

same, im doing it daily 

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Hudawg
On ‎9‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 8:33 AM, P.T. said:

 

1- Disable all ability cards

2- Auto turn off all Aim Assists to anyone who joins and lock them so  they can not be adjusted

 

These changes are needed to bring true balance to and make it actually Free Aim .

 

I think the ability cards are fine.  Tonics and satchel items should be locked, in all PVP game modes regardless of auto aim or free aim.  Dead Eye should not be used constantly all match long in pvp.  Dead should be earned, like the old rd.

 

Problem is now.  The movement is too fast in terms of strafing and shooting that its become cartoonish.  They need to make strafing and shooting extremely slow, not super fast.  

 

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Coxbox
1 minute ago, Hudawg said:

 

I think the ability cards are fine.  Tonics and satchel items should be locked, in all PVP game modes regardless of auto aim or free aim.  Dead Eye should not be used constantly all match long in pvp.  Dead should be earned, like the old rd.

 

Problem is now.  The movement is too fast in terms of strafing and shooting that its become cartoonish.  They need to make strafing and shooting extremely slow, not super fast.  

 

This is my issue with Free Aim Now because we do not have rapid fire its just ends up being two players moving left and right fast. The way it is at the moment Free Aim with a bow is very difficult.  

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wehweh01
On 9/18/2019 at 5:33 AM, P.T. said:

 

Yeah its pretty sad to be honest. I know most wont  because clearly taking 3 minutes is just "too much work" that "wont result in anything" but i encourage everyone to go to the feedback page - https://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadonline/feedback  daily and leave them the following suggestions for gameplay balance/showdown series/ other feedback :

 

Two changes need to be made to Free Aim Showdown Series:

 

1- Disable all ability cards

2- Auto turn off all Aim Assists to anyone who joins and lock them so  they can not be adjusted

 

These changes are needed to bring true balance to and make it actually Free Aim .

 

I know many will say it wont matter..... thats the same thing people said about giving feedback asking for free aim in the first place for RDR2Online. Seems enough people suggested it and it was brought in ( its free aim in the same sense it was on GTAVO).  It literally only takes a few minutes and i highly encourage everyone to submit this feedback daily . Get your friends who want to see true free aim to do the same. They have provided a place to give this feedback and request this. If we do not do that, then can we really just complain ?I hope everyone does this , i know i will be . It hurts nothing to try . 

I send feedback to Rockstar everyday. I won't stop. The strafe speed is god awful for Free Aim.

 

The Dead Eye and Ability cards I assume are part of Rockstar's monetization. I don't think we'll ever get an option to remove this from game modes. I've had some of my best fights with fellow Free Aimers and no Dead eye usage though. Dead Eye cards could easily be revised. If anything I think Free Aim or "Expert Aim" should be held to high regard in the Dead Eye system. 

 

 

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Enchilada

Hip fire is spray and pray not free aim. 

 

Btw, hardcore had aim assist. If you disagree, you haven’t played enough to notice it. 

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Foxwolfe

I mean compared to down the sights aiming it's less accurate for sure but you still are manually aiming... Hip fire by design is "free" aiming, like the way you're wording that makes it come off as if you think hip firing is just having another character in your view and mashing the fire button.

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wehweh01
40 minutes ago, Enchilada said:

Hip fire is spray and pray not free aim. 

 

Btw, hardcore had aim assist. If you disagree, you haven’t played enough to notice it. 

Guessing you didn't watch my video. I'm a goddamn surgeon with hipfire NO AIM ASSIST.

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Hudawg
1 hour ago, Enchilada said:

Hip fire is spray and pray not free aim. 

 

Not sure how manually aiming hip fire is not free aim.     Free aim is free aim.

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Hudawg

Could be wrong.  But it seems like maybe the free aim pvp modes that added are just being used as a testing ground for it will work on PC.  Also the changes to ability cards like SB might be due to PC and free aim.

 

Hopefully R* adds free aim FREE ROAM and free aim everything to consoles and not just PC.  Because if they don't, that's just plain sad.   I mean, I hate playing with a mouse in shooting games.  Its far to accurate.  Point and click makes manual aim too easy compared to a controllers.

 

As far as PIB goes in these free aim modes.  SS combined with the two new passive cards that nulls damage taken allows players to eat like 4-10 shots to the head.  Its basically a counter to PIB in both auto aim and free aim.

 

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Happy Hunter
14 hours ago, Hudawg said:

 

As far as PIB goes in these free aim modes.  SS combined with the two new passive cards that nulls damage taken allows players to eat like 4-10 shots to the head.  Its basically a counter to PIB in both auto aim and free aim.

 

If you're going to use Slow and Steady, you might also want a Special Health tonic and/or some minty meat. You can even soak up a few explosive rounds then.

 

I find with Slow and Steady though, that once you're hit - your aiming/bloom is all over the place.

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